Re: How to treat toe walking? -- prism lenses? -- Ruth

[Guest guest]

Ruth,

Wow --so chelation by itself (and OT) got rid of it. Is the tilt gone as

well? My son occassionally will stare somewhere with a tilted head. We tell

him " no silly face " and he breaks out of it. As per toe walking, if we tell him

" heels down " , he will walk normal for about 20 seconds and go back to toe

walking.

We just started chelation (completed 5 rounds) and have achieved lots of

verbal improvement. 2 questions for you please:

1. How many rounds did it take before he ended his toe walking?

2. What OT excersizes did you do to discourage toe walking?

Thank you!

Ruth <dan-ruth-setlak@...> wrote:

My son both toe walked and went to visions therapy for binocular

function (difficulty integrating peripheral and focal vision). He

would also tilt his head when playing with toys. He did use prism

glasses for awhile and also attended vision therapy. I thought the

vision therapy was less helpful than the glasses, themselves. He

would not tilt his head when the glasses were pout on, so I do feel

that they changed his spatial perception.

He was recently reassessed as developmentally on target, visually.

I completely crdit chelation for that, as he still had visual issues

when he was discharged and he stopped wearing the glasses then,

too. Chelation and occupaitonl therapy have gotten rid of his toe-

walking, as well. All gone. IT's funny because every once in

awhile I'll see him do it, and I'll ask him " why are you waling on

your toes? (he's 5 now). He'll respond something totally

appropriate like " Mom, there's rocks on the ground, " and I'll

breathe a sigh of relief.

Ruth

>

> My son is a toe walker. Although toe walking is not my main focus

now

> in treating his autism, I have a few questions:

>

> 1. Does toe walking go away after a certain amount of chelation?

>

> 2. Does anyone know if using prism lenses works to correct this

> issue. See article:

>

> http://www.autisticvision.com/id27.htm

>

> 3. How else can toe walking be treated?

>

>

> Thanking you in advance.

>

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[Guest guest]

Ruth,

Wow --so chelation by itself (and OT) got rid of it. Is the tilt gone as

well? My son occassionally will stare somewhere with a tilted head. We tell

him " no silly face " and he breaks out of it. As per toe walking, if we tell him

" heels down " , he will walk normal for about 20 seconds and go back to toe

walking.

We just started chelation (completed 5 rounds) and have achieved lots of

verbal improvement. 2 questions for you please:

1. How many rounds did it take before he ended his toe walking?

2. What OT excersizes did you do to discourage toe walking?

Thank you!

Ruth <dan-ruth-setlak@...> wrote:

My son both toe walked and went to visions therapy for binocular

function (difficulty integrating peripheral and focal vision). He

would also tilt his head when playing with toys. He did use prism

glasses for awhile and also attended vision therapy. I thought the

vision therapy was less helpful than the glasses, themselves. He

would not tilt his head when the glasses were pout on, so I do feel

that they changed his spatial perception.

He was recently reassessed as developmentally on target, visually.

I completely crdit chelation for that, as he still had visual issues

when he was discharged and he stopped wearing the glasses then,

too. Chelation and occupaitonl therapy have gotten rid of his toe-

walking, as well. All gone. IT's funny because every once in

awhile I'll see him do it, and I'll ask him " why are you waling on

your toes? (he's 5 now). He'll respond something totally

appropriate like " Mom, there's rocks on the ground, " and I'll

breathe a sigh of relief.

Ruth

>

> My son is a toe walker. Although toe walking is not my main focus

now

> in treating his autism, I have a few questions:

>

> 1. Does toe walking go away after a certain amount of chelation?

>

> 2. Does anyone know if using prism lenses works to correct this

> issue. See article:

>

> http://www.autisticvision.com/id27.htm

>

> 3. How else can toe walking be treated?

>

>

> Thanking you in advance.

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

Supplements got rid of our toe walking, actually she didn't toe walk, just ran

on her toes, so don't know if that counts. It was the NN Clo as I think for

her, it was related to her very, very poor vision and her way of balancing

herself. For us, it took one week on the Clo.

Re: [ ] Re: How to treat toe walking? -- prism lenses?

-- Ruth

Ruth,

Wow --so chelation by itself (and OT) got rid of it. Is the tilt gone as

well? My son occassionally will stare somewhere with a tilted head. We tell

him " no silly face " and he breaks out of it. As per toe walking, if we tell him

" heels down " , he will walk normal for about 20 seconds and go back to toe

walking.

We just started chelation (completed 5 rounds) and have achieved lots of

verbal improvement. 2 questions for you please:

1. How many rounds did it take before he ended his toe walking?

2. What OT excersizes did you do to discourage toe walking?

Thank you!

Ruth <dan-ruth-setlak@...> wrote:

My son both toe walked and went to visions therapy for binocular

function (difficulty integrating peripheral and focal vision). He

would also tilt his head when playing with toys. He did use prism

glasses for awhile and also attended vision therapy. I thought the

vision therapy was less helpful than the glasses, themselves. He

would not tilt his head when the glasses were pout on, so I do feel

that they changed his spatial perception.

He was recently reassessed as developmentally on target, visually.

I completely crdit chelation for that, as he still had visual issues

when he was discharged and he stopped wearing the glasses then,

too. Chelation and occupaitonl therapy have gotten rid of his toe-

walking, as well. All gone. IT's funny because every once in

awhile I'll see him do it, and I'll ask him " why are you waling on

your toes? (he's 5 now). He'll respond something totally

appropriate like " Mom, there's rocks on the ground, " and I'll

breathe a sigh of relief.

Ruth

>

> My son is a toe walker. Although toe walking is not my main focus

now

> in treating his autism, I have a few questions:

>

> 1. Does toe walking go away after a certain amount of chelation?

>

> 2. Does anyone know if using prism lenses works to correct this

> issue. See article:

>

> http://www.autisticvision.com/id27.htm

>

> 3. How else can toe walking be treated?

>

>

> Thanking you in advance.

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

What is " NN Clo " (what does it stand for) and where can I buy it?

Thank you.

Cochran <Ladyshrink111@...> wrote:

Supplements got rid of our toe walking, actually she didn't toe walk, just ran

on her toes, so don't know if that counts. It was the NN Clo as I think for

her, it was related to her very, very poor vision and her way of balancing

herself. For us, it took one week on the Clo.

Re: [ ] Re: How to treat toe walking? -- prism lenses?

-- Ruth

Ruth,

Wow --so chelation by itself (and OT) got rid of it. Is the tilt gone as

well? My son occassionally will stare somewhere with a tilted head. We tell

him " no silly face " and he breaks out of it. As per toe walking, if we tell him

" heels down " , he will walk normal for about 20 seconds and go back to toe

walking.

We just started chelation (completed 5 rounds) and have achieved lots of

verbal improvement. 2 questions for you please:

1. How many rounds did it take before he ended his toe walking?

2. What OT excersizes did you do to discourage toe walking?

Thank you!

Ruth <dan-ruth-setlak@...> wrote:

My son both toe walked and went to visions therapy for binocular

function (difficulty integrating peripheral and focal vision). He

would also tilt his head when playing with toys. He did use prism

glasses for awhile and also attended vision therapy. I thought the

vision therapy was less helpful than the glasses, themselves. He

would not tilt his head when the glasses were pout on, so I do feel

that they changed his spatial perception.

He was recently reassessed as developmentally on target, visually.

I completely crdit chelation for that, as he still had visual issues

when he was discharged and he stopped wearing the glasses then,

too. Chelation and occupaitonl therapy have gotten rid of his toe-

walking, as well. All gone. IT's funny because every once in

awhile I'll see him do it, and I'll ask him " why are you waling on

your toes? (he's 5 now). He'll respond something totally

appropriate like " Mom, there's rocks on the ground, " and I'll

breathe a sigh of relief.

Ruth

>

> My son is a toe walker. Although toe walking is not my main focus

now

> in treating his autism, I have a few questions:

>

> 1. Does toe walking go away after a certain amount of chelation?

>

> 2. Does anyone know if using prism lenses works to correct this

> issue. See article:

>

> http://www.autisticvision.com/id27.htm

>

> 3. How else can toe walking be treated?

>

>

> Thanking you in advance.

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

Abid -

Yes the tilt is gone. All weird visual stims are gone, as well.

has no autistic-looking symptoms, but can at moments still

self-absorb. He is easily reengaged, though. I can just ask him a

question or say, Hey, XXXX, look at this and he'll reengage.

I guess I should have been more clear in my answer, as well,

though. 's toe walking actually disppeared before

chelation. It may have been the cod liver oil, as stated,

as it is clear that 's visual system was really not working

for him. His visual issues, however, needed chelation. We had

already been on cod liver oil for a year when we started visions

therapy. We started chelation about 6 months after that. I'm not

sure how many rounds it took, but I had him reassessed after 6

months of chelation and they said his visual issues had resolved.

HTH

Ruth

> >

> > My son is a toe walker. Although toe walking is not my main

focus

> now

> > in treating his autism, I have a few questions:

> >

> > 1. Does toe walking go away after a certain amount of chelation?

> >

> > 2. Does anyone know if using prism lenses works to correct this

> > issue. See article:

> >

> > http://www.autisticvision.com/id27.htm

> >

> > 3. How else can toe walking be treated?

> >

> >

> > Thanking you in advance.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry, Abid, Nordic Naturals, Cod Liver Oil. You can get it at any health food

store or read about it at www.nordicnaturals.com

Re: [ ] Re: How to treat toe walking? -- prism lenses?

-- Ruth

Ruth,

Wow --so chelation by itself (and OT) got rid of it. Is the tilt gone as

well? My son occassionally will stare somewhere with a tilted head. We tell

him " no silly face " and he breaks out of it. As per toe walking, if we tell him

" heels down " , he will walk normal for about 20 seconds and go back to toe

walking.

We just started chelation (completed 5 rounds) and have achieved lots of

verbal improvement. 2 questions for you please:

1. How many rounds did it take before he ended his toe walking?

2. What OT excersizes did you do to discourage toe walking?

Thank you!

Ruth <dan-ruth-setlak@...> wrote:

My son both toe walked and went to visions therapy for binocular

function (difficulty integrating peripheral and focal vision). He

would also tilt his head when playing with toys. He did use prism

glasses for awhile and also attended vision therapy. I thought the

vision therapy was less helpful than the glasses, themselves. He

would not tilt his head when the glasses were pout on, so I do feel

that they changed his spatial perception.

He was recently reassessed as developmentally on target, visually.

I completely crdit chelation for that, as he still had visual issues

when he was discharged and he stopped wearing the glasses then,

too. Chelation and occupaitonl therapy have gotten rid of his toe-

walking, as well. All gone. IT's funny because every once in

awhile I'll see him do it, and I'll ask him " why are you waling on

your toes? (he's 5 now). He'll respond something totally

appropriate like " Mom, there's rocks on the ground, " and I'll

breathe a sigh of relief.

Ruth

>

> My son is a toe walker. Although toe walking is not my main focus

now

> in treating his autism, I have a few questions:

>

> 1. Does toe walking go away after a certain amount of chelation?

>

> 2. Does anyone know if using prism lenses works to correct this

> issue. See article:

>

> http://www.autisticvision.com/id27.htm

>

> 3. How else can toe walking be treated?

>

>

> Thanking you in advance.

>

=======================================================

[Guest guest]

This is great news! By the way, you said that your son " can at moments still

self-absorb. He is easily reengaged, though " -- this is true for many " normal "

folks too. Often my wife is telling me something and I am self absorbed -- she

knows this and asks me if I am paying attention -- and vice-versa. Sounds like

you're doing a great job.

I can't wait to get my son up the same ladder.

Ruth <dan-ruth-setlak@...> wrote:

Abid -

Yes the tilt is gone. All weird visual stims are gone, as well.

has no autistic-looking symptoms, but can at moments still

self-absorb. He is easily reengaged, though. I can just ask him a

question or say, Hey, XXXX, look at this and he'll reengage.

I guess I should have been more clear in my answer, as well,

though. 's toe walking actually disppeared before

chelation. It may have been the cod liver oil, as stated,

as it is clear that 's visual system was really not working

for him. His visual issues, however, needed chelation. We had

already been on cod liver oil for a year when we started visions

therapy. We started chelation about 6 months after that. I'm not

sure how many rounds it took, but I had him reassessed after 6

months of chelation and they said his visual issues had resolved.

HTH

Ruth

> >

> > My son is a toe walker. Although toe walking is not my main

focus

> now

> > in treating his autism, I have a few questions:

> >

> > 1. Does toe walking go away after a certain amount of chelation?

> >

> > 2. Does anyone know if using prism lenses works to correct this

> > issue. See article:

> >

> > http://www.autisticvision.com/id27.htm

> >

> > 3. How else can toe walking be treated?

> >

> >

> > Thanking you in advance.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

Abid -

Yes, it's good to have perspective on the fact that " normal " people

had to check out now and again, and also have other things that woul

dcause us anxiety if we saw it in our ASD kids.

I put in a typical, private preschool for next year. I was

trying to discuss 's profile with the teacher. I'd say

something like " We're still working on perspective taking and social

problem-solving. " And, she'd respond something like, " I work on

that with all my kids. " It went on and on like that. Little kids

are developing all the time, and we don't often know what's in the

typical range of development, so it all gets lumped into the ASD

category.

Also, one time we went to a children's museum and was

running around experimenting with all kinds of different things. My

oldest, NT, child, though, played with the same thing for over an

hour. If that had been , I'd have had anxiety about that.

So, perspective is key. Thanks.

Ruth

> > >

> > > My son is a toe walker. Although toe walking is not my main

> focus

> > now

> > > in treating his autism, I have a few questions:

> > >

> > > 1. Does toe walking go away after a certain amount of

chelation?

> > >

> > > 2. Does anyone know if using prism lenses works to correct

this

> > > issue. See article:

> > >

> > > http://www.autisticvision.com/id27.htm

> > >

> > > 3. How else can toe walking be treated?

> > >

> > >

> > > Thanking you in advance.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > =======================================================

> >

[Guest guest]

I suspect she is referring to Nordic Naturals Cod Liver Oil. Health Food Stores

probably carry it. It might be available on-line.

S S

Hi ,<BR>

   <BR>

  What is " NN Clo " (what does it stand for) and where can I buy it?<BR>

   <BR>

  Thank you.<BR>

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