Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Hello, I didn't see anything about pro-biotics. I would make sure you are giving plenty of those. Good Luck ! Neil _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Dunsmore Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:03 PM autism treatment Subject: [ ] GSE duration...dana? Hi there. We have been using natural and biomed intervention with our 4 and a half year old son who has ASD for 2.5 years now. He is very likely affected majority virally, with (I'm sure) some metals we will need to begin pulling within the year. We are attacking viruses first - then on to chelation. A bit of background - We have had testing done which showed very elevated candida, loads of staph, strep, and clostridia, and his titers were staggering for measles, mumps, and herpes (must have creeped in after his immune system had no strength). He had a reaction to the MMR. Ok - So we have gotten him on immune boosters - 1 cap DMG daily with 1 cap folinic - 1 cap transfer factor classic - colostrum gold at a full dose - 250 mgs vitamin C - brainchild's vits and mins - 20 mg zinc daily - and our current one is working up on the transfer factor plus (advanced) which he is at about 1/8 cap daily. As we have increased the transfer factor plus advanced, he had inflammatroy responses and die off which we hope and think is viral dieoff. As the viruses are dying and the immune system is strengthening, the yeast grows (as we expected from our research prior to intervening). The nystatin and biocidin were not keeping it under control as they were before the transfer factor plus advanced. He was up for 5 hours at night! So, we have been toying with GSE again (he had trouble tolerting it for a while) starting by diluting one drop and giving a measrued amnt of that and working up. We are up to 1.5 drops GSE with 1.5 caps no fenol on an empty stomach twicw a day. He is sleeping 10 hour nights again. We use GSE - One dose given one hour after he stops eating breakfast and one dose one hour after he stops eating lunch. He is clearly uncomfortable (acting like he has the flu) after each dose and there is dieoff in his stools (but we are increasing the transfer factor plus advanced too - so not *for sure* what type of die off it is). Every evening after dinner time he begins to ask for us to spin him and he gets aggressive and yeasty again. His yeasty stuff... Dana and others~ I know that GSE can cause bacterial increases if " given too long " but can anyone describe how long you had to give GSE and at what dose (in drop form) while using antivirals. Am I needing to worry after one week on GSE or after one month? I am planning on adding biocidin to the GSE to work on the bacteria, and have ordered Candidase to rotate with the GSE. What rotation schedule would you recommend and when should I switch to a phase of candidase? Any additional insight into our current situation will help. Thanks so much! ~ __________________________________________________________ Cheap talk? Check out Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice. <http://voice.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 > A bit of background - We have had testing done which showed very elevated candida, loads of staph, strep, and clostridia, and his titers were staggering for measles, mumps, and herpes (must have creeped in after his immune system had no strength). He had a reaction to the MMR. Consider high dose vitamin A protocol http://www.danasview.net/vitamina.htm [The server where my site is hosted, is down right now, but check back every once in a while.] >>250 mgs vitamin C Increase this as much as you can. Watch for more yeast tho. >>We are up to 1.5 drops GSE with 1.5 caps no fenol on an empty stomach twicw a day. He is sleeping 10 hour nights again. We use GSE - One dose given one hour after he stops eating breakfast and one dose one hour after he stops eating lunch. He is clearly uncomfortable (acting like he has the flu) after each dose and there is dieoff in his stools (but we are increasing the transfer factor plus advanced too - so not *for sure* what type of die off it is). Try giving the GSE closer to the meal. You can also give activated charcoal 30-45 minutes after the GSE, to absorb the die off toxins. > Every evening after dinner time he begins to ask for us to spin him and he gets aggressive and yeasty again. His yeasty stuff... Can you give another drop after dinner? > Dana and others~ I know that GSE can cause bacterial increases if " given too long " but can anyone describe how long you had to give GSE and at what dose (in drop form) while using antivirals. I had to give high doses of GSE after every single dose of anti-viral, for more than 2 years. Just a few days ago, I was able to remove it from #3, who THAT SAME DAY started using complex sentences with correct grammar, and answering " why " questions appropriately. #2 needs only a minimal amount of GSE per dose of anti-virals. Their vitamin C requirement has significantly reduced also, in this same time period. The end is near! >>Am I needing to worry after one week on GSE or after one month? Maybe not any of those. Especially not if you are only using one drop of GSE. As a very strange aside, my #4 developed an SJS reaction to GSE about a month ago. So it is the " wonder supplement " for my boys, and the " nasty scary " supplement for my girl. I am glad my boys don't need it much any more. >>I am planning on adding biocidin to the GSE to work on the bacteria, I used OLE for bacteria. >>and have ordered Candidase to rotate with the GSE. What rotation schedule would you recommend and when should I switch to a phase of candidase? I use GSE plus Candidase. The combination resulted in much better yeast control, without the high doses of GSE that were previously required. Add biotin also, it was very helpful in controlling yeast. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 > > Hmmm, Flu like symptoms when you increase above 1 cap of pro-biotics ... ? > > The only time I have heard of anyone getting too much pro-biotics was a post > from DANA. > My son couldn't tolerate probiotics for years. Not flu-like symptoms but rage. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 Just learning that probiotics might be responsible for stimulating the immune system, not a good thing for all kids. [ ] Re: GSE duration...dana? > > Hmmm, Flu like symptoms when you increase above 1 cap of pro-biotics .. ? > > The only time I have heard of anyone getting too much pro-biotics was a post > from DANA. > My son couldn't tolerate probiotics for years. Not flu-like symptoms but rage. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 > As a very strange aside, my #4 developed an SJS reaction to GSE about > a month ago. So it is the " wonder supplement " for my boys, and the > " nasty scary " supplement for my girl. I am glad my boys don't need it > much any more. Well, I am now able to remove GSE entirely, from all my kids. Candidase alone is working well to eliminate #2's remaining yeast issues from the vitamin C/anti-viral protocol. #3 no longer needs any yeast control at all. Strangest thing however. Because of #4's SJS reaction, I removed all five of her supplements, waited two days, then added them back one at a time. I did NOT add back the GSE, because that was the supplement that appeared to be causing the SJS reaction. However, when I added back a few pellets of, of all things, Lauricidin, her SJS reaction came back. So now I don't know if it was the GSE [not really willing to challenge that, plus it doesn't look like I really need to] or both GSE and Lauricidin. But the Lauricidin definitely caused an SJS reaction. Anyone know what ingredient that might be? I removed Lauricidin from all the boys, and they all improved. This is the " on again, off again " supplement for them anyway, but none of my kids has ever had an SJS reaction. It looks like virus issues are almost gone anyway, so I don't think I will need to add back any of my " more potent " anti-virals, but this SJS reaction really has me thinking. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 > Well, I am now able to remove GSE entirely, from all my kids. > Candidase alone is working well to eliminate #2's remaining yeast > issues from the vitamin C/anti-viral protocol. #3 no longer needs any > yeast control at all. I'm no help on the SJS reaction, but being able to get off GSE is huge! Yay! Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 AWESOME news about not needing the GSE anymore Dana! Please tell me though, what is a SJS reaction? I have never heard that before. I'm so glad it appears your boys are finally getting rid of all those nasty viruses!! Sheresa > > As a very strange aside, my #4 developed an SJS reaction to GSE about > > a month ago. So it is the " wonder supplement " for my boys, and the > > " nasty scary " supplement for my girl. I am glad my boys don't need it > > much any more. > > > Well, I am now able to remove GSE entirely, from all my kids. > Candidase alone is working well to eliminate #2's remaining yeast > issues from the vitamin C/anti-viral protocol. #3 no longer needs any > yeast control at all. > > Strangest thing however. Because of #4's SJS reaction, I removed all > five of her supplements, waited two days, then added them back one at > a time. I did NOT add back the GSE, because that was the supplement > that appeared to be causing the SJS reaction. However, when I added > back a few pellets of, of all things, Lauricidin, her SJS reaction > came back. So now I don't know if it was the GSE [not really willing > to challenge that, plus it doesn't look like I really need to] or both > GSE and Lauricidin. But the Lauricidin definitely caused an SJS > reaction. Anyone know what ingredient that might be? > > I removed Lauricidin from all the boys, and they all improved. This > is the " on again, off again " supplement for them anyway, but none of > my kids has ever had an SJS reaction. > > It looks like virus issues are almost gone anyway, so I don't think I > will need to add back any of my " more potent " anti-virals, but this > SJS reaction really has me thinking. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 > I'm no help on the SJS reaction, but being able to get off GSE is > huge! Yay! Yep, very nice! His full-body rash is reducing also. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 > > AWESOME news about not needing the GSE anymore Dana! Please tell me > though, what is a SJS reaction? I have never heard that before. s Syndrome. Go to google, click on " images " , then type that in the search box. You will see lots of nasty looking photos. Basically, the skin on the face and sometimes the rest of the body looks burned. It can cause serious and sometimes permanent injury. > I'm so glad it appears your boys are finally getting rid of all those > nasty viruses!! Yep, things are looking up! Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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