Guest guest Posted March 19, 2006 Report Share Posted March 19, 2006 In a message dated 19/03/2006 16:14:14 GMT Standard Time, sallygeorge@... writes: How do you get the ALA into him? Could it be mixed with a drink? >>>Yup thats just what we do. I use Kirkman flavoured brand Sam likes the taste Mandi x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Dear group, We are going to switch to oral ala from transdermal. Is there a brand of ala that does not have additives in it? My son is very sensitive to fillers. Thanks Alice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 have you looked at Kirkman ALA? > > Dear group, > We are going to switch to oral ala from transdermal. Is there a brand > of ala that does not have additives in it? > My son is very sensitive to fillers. > > Thanks > Alice > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2006 Report Share Posted November 28, 2006 Kirkman's hypoallergenic ALA capsules have the fewest number of fillers from what I've been able to find. These contain only cellulose and silicon dioxide. There are other Kirkman ALA caps that contain tons of fillers/flavorings. When I first started looking for filler-free ALA I only found a few that had 3 or less filler ingredients: Natrol: rice powder, magnesium stearate, gelatin Doctor's Best: cellulose, mag stearate, gelatin caps Cardiovascular Research: cellulose, mag stearate, silicon dioxide I'm sure there are other brands. It seems only Kirkman has mag stearate-free ALA capsules. I wonder why? Perhaps silicon dioxide and mag stearate accomplish the same thing. There has to be *something* in the capsule or tablet other than alpha lipoic acid, so finding a product with simply ALA is impossible. I needed tablets, so I opted for Source Naturals. I do not have a filler sensitive child...these also aren't GFCF (plus several fillers). Alice, do you know of any specific fillers you need to avoid? Pam > > > > Dear group, > > We are going to switch to oral ala from transdermal. Is there a > brand > > of ala that does not have additives in it? > > My son is very sensitive to fillers. > > > > Thanks > > Alice > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 > We are going to switch to oral ala from transdermal. Is there a brand > of ala that does not have additives in it? > My son is very sensitive to fillers. I used Natural Factors ALA, because it does not contain very many fillers. It does come in high doses tho, so I had to open the capsules and divide the contents. Kirkman sells hypoallergenic ALA, you can check the ingredients there and see if it might work for your child. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Does anyone know of a good 100mg or lower ALA that is slow release to give to 6-9yr olds? I've been giving a tablet from whole foods every morning to my boys along with B12, C and Cal/mag supplements. They seem to be doing much better everytime. Teacher said 6 year old participates with class more and answers questions. The 8 year old is no longer the last one done with his assignments. I noticed they seem to get a bit hyper, but it seems school days are best for giving their supplements because weekends get too busy. On the first day they are better, the 2nd day they get a bit hyper, the 3-5 days more moody, but still better at school work. Would this be real chelation? 5 days on with 1 time a day dose with weekends off? There are adult doses (300mg) that are slow release. and I wonder if there are lower dose slow release too. Thanks, Farhin On 11/29/06, danasview <danasview@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > We are going to switch to oral ala from transdermal. Is there a brand > > of ala that does not have additives in it? > > My son is very sensitive to fillers. > > I used Natural Factors ALA, because it does not contain very many > fillers. It does come in high doses tho, so I had to open the > capsules and divide the contents. > > Kirkman sells hypoallergenic ALA, you can check the ingredients there > and see if it might work for your child. > > Dana > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Dosing once a day (and such a high dose) is dangerous as it runs the risk of redistribution of the toxic metals you're trying to chelate. Please read the FAQs for Andy's protocol and the reason behind it. 300 mg is too much for an adult, unless that adult weighs 600 lbs. S S <p>Does anyone know of a good 100mg or lower ALA that is slow release to<br> give to 6-9yr olds?<br> <br> I've been giving a tablet from whole foods every morning to my boys<br> along with B12, C and Cal/mag supplements. They seem to be doing much<br> better everytime. Teacher said 6 year old participates with class<br> more and answers questions. The 8 year old is no longer the last one<br> done with his assignments. I noticed they seem to get a bit hyper,<br> but it seems school days are best for giving their supplements because<br> weekends get too busy. On the first day they are better, the 2nd day<br> they get a bit hyper, the 3-5 days more moody, but still better at<br> school work.<br> <br> Would this be real chelation? 5 days on with 1 time a day dose with<br> weekends off?<br> <br> There are adult doses (300mg) that are slow release. and I wonder if<br> there are lower dose slow release too.<br> Thanks,<br> Farhin<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Farhin, Timed release ALA is not good insurance against the possibility of redistribution on a once-a-day dosing schedule. Believe me, people have looked into this - what a great thing if we didn't have to obsess about dose timing! Andy says that timed release ALA would still need to be dosed on a proper chelation schedule. I have no reason to doubt Andy's word on this, or at least no reason good enough to risk harming my child needlessly. Your children may appear to be doing okay right now - and maybe they are okay. However, it's good to keep in mind that a lot of the things we know to be harmful work slowly, in insidious ways that aren't immediately noticeable. Here are some old posts of Andy's on timed-release ALA: http://onibasu.com/archives/am/78171.html http://onibasu.com/archives/am/95258.html http://onibasu.com/archives/am/134734.html take care Rene > > Does anyone know of a good 100mg or lower ALA that is slow release to > give to 6-9yr olds? > > I've been giving a tablet from whole foods every morning to my boys > along with B12, C and Cal/mag supplements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2006 Report Share Posted November 29, 2006 Thank you so much I will stop immediately and do it properly on the weekend. Thank God I asked and thank God you all answered. On 11/29/06, joshisims <joshisims@...> wrote: > > > > > > > Farhin, > > Timed release ALA is not good insurance against the possibility of > redistribution on a once-a-day dosing schedule. Believe me, people > have looked into this - what a great thing if we didn't have to > obsess about dose timing! Andy says that timed release ALA would > still need to be dosed on a proper chelation schedule. I have no > reason to doubt Andy's word on this, or at least no reason good > enough to risk harming my child needlessly. > > Your children may appear to be doing okay right now - and maybe they > are okay. However, it's good to keep in mind that a lot of the > things we know to be harmful work slowly, in insidious ways that > aren't immediately noticeable. > > Here are some old posts of Andy's on timed-release ALA: > > http://onibasu.com/archives/am/78171.html > http://onibasu.com/archives/am/95258.html > http://onibasu.com/archives/am/134734.html > > take care > Rene > > > > > > > Does anyone know of a good 100mg or lower ALA that is slow release > to > > give to 6-9yr olds? > > > > I've been giving a tablet from whole foods every morning to my boys > > along with B12, C and Cal/mag supplements. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 > Would this be real chelation? 5 days on with 1 time a day dose with > weekends off? Well, you have already received a few replies, and decided to change your protocol, but I will mention that I gave oral ALA to my kids 3x per day, and they were fine with it. I know of several families who are using ALA 1-3x per day, and not on the " standard every 3 hour " protocol. If what you did caused improvements, you can certainly decide to continue it. The increasing issues over the 5 day period can be the result of increasing yeast, or mineral deficiency, so you can address those issues if you want. Or, you can change the protocol. Whichever you believe is best for your family. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Time release ALA does not help at all - this is conclusively proven by data published by one of the manufacturers of it that showed no difference whatsoever between blood profiles of ALA from time release or regular formulations. So if you take time release ALA, you still have to take it every 3-4 hours. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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