Re: Olive leaf extract is doing something!

November 25, 2006

Alcohol-free OLE is available at HFS. I bought some today at Whole Foods

Market, on sale. Adult dosage on most supps is figured at 150 lbs. so you could

divide that by your child's weight. Congrats on the language increases.

S S

HI,

I want to share our OLE experiment with you to see if anyone has any

advice (and because I am excited):

I've been giving my 5 year old son 10-15 drops of Energetix Core

Olive Leaf extract for the past 2 weeks. I don't have the specifics

on the mgs of OLE or % of oleuropein since the bottle does not say

(very unusual for me to use this without such info; but I trust my

MD). 10 drops was the dose given by my MD (Usman).

For the first week my son seemed irritable and less cooperative.

The second week I see a leap in language; especially with initiating

conversation and asking questions. No rashes. Possibly a slight

fever, but he was exposed to a few colds last week.

Best of all, my son now tells me he loves me EVERY DAY!!! I don't

know if you recall, but he told me this for the first time last

month. I was happy to hear it once, but overwhelmed to hear it

daily. The words are said with such feeling I often start to cry.

How long do I continue using OLE? I've emailed Energetix for

specific info on the mgs and % eleuropein so I can decide if I want

to increase the dose to see if I get more progress. The bottle says

30 drops, 1-2 times daily for adults. No specs for children. It

does contain 20% ethanol... the big downside. Maybe he's just

drunk?

Even my husband said our son was going through another burst in

progress. He NEVER makes observations out loud so it must be good!

Do we discontinue OLE to take a break like I would with GSE?

thanks,

Pam

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November 26, 2006

> Best of all, my son now tells me he loves me EVERY DAY!!! I don't

> know if you recall, but he told me this for the first time last

> month. I was happy to hear it once, but overwhelmed to hear it

> daily. The words are said with such feeling I often start to cry.

Woo hoo! Nothing better than that!

>

>It

> does contain 20% ethanol... the big downside. Maybe he's just

> drunk?

LOL. If you're worried you could try Natural Factors in capsules.

(sorry, does he swallow caps yet?)

>

> Do we discontinue OLE to take a break like I would with GSE?

If yeast starts to get ridiculous I'd take a break, but otherwise I'd

just pile on the antifungals and try to keep going.

Great news, Pam.

Nell

November 26, 2006

Pam,

I missed your original post, this is wonderful! Great improvements, thanks

for sharing.

RE: [ ] Olive leaf extract is doing something!

>

> Alcohol-free OLE is available at HFS. I bought some today at Whole Foods

> Market, on sale. Adult dosage on most supps is figured at 150 lbs. so you

> could divide that by your child's weight. Congrats on the language

> increases.

> S S

>

> HI,

>

> I want to share our OLE experiment with you to see if anyone has any

> advice (and because I am excited):

>

> I've been giving my 5 year old son 10-15 drops of Energetix Core

> Olive Leaf extract for the past 2 weeks. I don't have the specifics

> on the mgs of OLE or % of oleuropein since the bottle does not say

> (very unusual for me to use this without such info; but I trust my

> MD). 10 drops was the dose given by my MD (Usman).

>

> For the first week my son seemed irritable and less cooperative.

> The second week I see a leap in language; especially with initiating

> conversation and asking questions. No rashes. Possibly a slight

> fever, but he was exposed to a few colds last week.

>

> Best of all, my son now tells me he loves me EVERY DAY!!! I don't

> know if you recall, but he told me this for the first time last

> month. I was happy to hear it once, but overwhelmed to hear it

> daily. The words are said with such feeling I often start to cry.

>

> How long do I continue using OLE? I've emailed Energetix for

> specific info on the mgs and % eleuropein so I can decide if I want

> to increase the dose to see if I get more progress. The bottle says

> 30 drops, 1-2 times daily for adults. No specs for children. It

> does contain 20% ethanol... the big downside. Maybe he's just

> drunk?

>

> Even my husband said our son was going through another burst in

> progress. He NEVER makes observations out loud so it must be good!

>

> Do we discontinue OLE to take a break like I would with GSE?

>

> thanks,

>

> Pam

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November 26, 2006

>

> Woo hoo! Nothing better than that!

> >

> >It

> > does contain 20% ethanol... the big downside. Maybe he's just

> > drunk?

>

> LOL. If you're worried you could try Natural Factors in capsules.

> (sorry, does he swallow caps yet?)

> >

>

Or you could just get a bottle for yourself and join in the drunken fun!

Anne

November 26, 2006

> For the first week my son seemed irritable and less cooperative.

> The second week I see a leap in language; especially with initiating

> conversation and asking questions.

Yep, I have that here with my kids. I have modified their anti-viral

protocol yet again, with great results. Nice, isn't it?!

=)

> Best of all, my son now tells me he loves me EVERY DAY!!!

Congrats!

> How long do I continue using OLE?

I have been doing anti-virals for over 2 years. I started with just

OLE, but have done a lot of other things since then.

I've emailed Energetix for

> specific info on the mgs and % eleuropein so I can decide if I want

> to increase the dose to see if I get more progress. The bottle says

> 30 drops, 1-2 times daily for adults. No specs for children.

I started with 250mg per day, and worked up from there. The most I

ever gave was 3000mg. I would increase it every time my son seemed to

reach a plateau.

One thing I learned for my kids that might apply to yours: giving

anti-virals without boosting the immune system is almost pointless. I

watched a cold virus go straight into my son's brain. Do you give

vitamin A and C? Especially C, which is keeping the viruses OUT of

his brain now.

> Do we discontinue OLE to take a break like I would with GSE?

I would not discontinue the OLE until the viruses are gone, and the

immune system is healed. I discontinued it when I thought the viruses

were gone, and that is when I watched the next cold virus go right

into his brain. You can discontinue it if you move to another

anti-viral tho, but don't stop the anti-virals until those two

milestones are met.

Right now, I am using lower doses of OLE plus high doses of Lauricidin

[which caused uncontrollable yeast overgrowth for the first two years,

but now only causes " controllable " yeast], and I am seeing more gains.

My son's vitamin C requirement is finally reducing down, the 45 grams

per day that I was giving is now too much.

By the way, I don't discontinue GSE, because the yeast is

" controllable " , but only with GSE [plus Candidase and biotin].

Congrats and good luck. Viruses are nasty.

Dana

November 26, 2006

Thanks, Dana. It is always nice to find interventions that actually

work!!! I do give quite a few grams of C, but the Vit A is only

from the multi-vitamin (2000 IU retinyl palmitate) and occasional

CLO. To the naked eye, his immune system seems healthy... but I

know the eyes can deceive me.

I've got to do some viral research.

Pam

> > For the first week my son seemed irritable and less

cooperative.

> > The second week I see a leap in language; especially with

initiating

> > conversation and asking questions.

>

> Yep, I have that here with my kids. I have modified their anti-

viral

> protocol yet again, with great results. Nice, isn't it?!

>

> =)

>

> > Best of all, my son now tells me he loves me EVERY DAY!!!

>

> Congrats!

>

> > How long do I continue using OLE?

>

> I have been doing anti-virals for over 2 years. I started with

just

> OLE, but have done a lot of other things since then.

>

> I've emailed Energetix for

> > specific info on the mgs and % eleuropein so I can decide if I

want

> > to increase the dose to see if I get more progress. The bottle

says

> > 30 drops, 1-2 times daily for adults. No specs for children.

>

> I started with 250mg per day, and worked up from there. The most I

> ever gave was 3000mg. I would increase it every time my son

seemed to

> reach a plateau.

>

> One thing I learned for my kids that might apply to yours: giving

> anti-virals without boosting the immune system is almost

pointless. I

> watched a cold virus go straight into my son's brain. Do you give

> vitamin A and C? Especially C, which is keeping the viruses OUT of

> his brain now.

>

> > Do we discontinue OLE to take a break like I would with GSE?

>

> I would not discontinue the OLE until the viruses are gone, and the

> immune system is healed. I discontinued it when I thought the

viruses

> were gone, and that is when I watched the next cold virus go right

> into his brain. You can discontinue it if you move to another

> anti-viral tho, but don't stop the anti-virals until those two

> milestones are met.

>

> Right now, I am using lower doses of OLE plus high doses of

Lauricidin

> [which caused uncontrollable yeast overgrowth for the first two

years,

> but now only causes " controllable " yeast], and I am seeing more

gains.

> My son's vitamin C requirement is finally reducing down, the 45

grams

> per day that I was giving is now too much.

>

> By the way, I don't discontinue GSE, because the yeast is

> " controllable " , but only with GSE [plus Candidase and biotin].

>

> Congrats and good luck. Viruses are nasty.

>

> Dana

>

November 26, 2006

Sounds like it's addressing virals within

I would continue cautiously and try to keep the yeast at bay

Congrat's on the " I love you's " !!!

>

> HI,

>

> I want to share our OLE experiment with you to see if anyone has

any

> advice (and because I am excited):

>

> I've been giving my 5 year old son 10-15 drops of Energetix Core

> Olive Leaf extract for the past 2 weeks. I don't have the

specifics

> on the mgs of OLE or % of oleuropein since the bottle does not say

> (very unusual for me to use this without such info; but I trust my

> MD). 10 drops was the dose given by my MD (Usman).

>

> For the first week my son seemed irritable and less cooperative.

> The second week I see a leap in language; especially with

initiating

> conversation and asking questions. No rashes. Possibly a slight

> fever, but he was exposed to a few colds last week.

>

> Best of all, my son now tells me he loves me EVERY DAY!!! I don't

> know if you recall, but he told me this for the first time last

> month. I was happy to hear it once, but overwhelmed to hear it

> daily. The words are said with such feeling I often start to cry.

>

> How long do I continue using OLE? I've emailed Energetix for

> specific info on the mgs and % eleuropein so I can decide if I

want

> to increase the dose to see if I get more progress. The bottle

says

> 30 drops, 1-2 times daily for adults. No specs for children. It

> does contain 20% ethanol... the big downside. Maybe he's just

> drunk?

>

> Even my husband said our son was going through another burst in

> progress. He NEVER makes observations out loud so it must be good!

>

> Do we discontinue OLE to take a break like I would with GSE?

>

> thanks,

>

> Pam

>

November 26, 2006

Well, we've now digressed to making farting noises after saying " I

love you " and laughing hysterically. Boys. At least he still says

it like he means it.

Pam

> >

> > HI,

> >

> > I want to share our OLE experiment with you to see if anyone has

> any

> > advice (and because I am excited):

> >

> > I've been giving my 5 year old son 10-15 drops of Energetix Core

> > Olive Leaf extract for the past 2 weeks. I don't have the

> specifics

> > on the mgs of OLE or % of oleuropein since the bottle does not

say

> > (very unusual for me to use this without such info; but I trust

my

> > MD). 10 drops was the dose given by my MD (Usman).

> >

> > For the first week my son seemed irritable and less

cooperative.

> > The second week I see a leap in language; especially with

> initiating

> > conversation and asking questions. No rashes. Possibly a

slight

> > fever, but he was exposed to a few colds last week.

> >

> > Best of all, my son now tells me he loves me EVERY DAY!!! I

don't

> > know if you recall, but he told me this for the first time last

> > month. I was happy to hear it once, but overwhelmed to hear it

> > daily. The words are said with such feeling I often start to

cry.

> >

> > How long do I continue using OLE? I've emailed Energetix for

> > specific info on the mgs and % eleuropein so I can decide if I

> want

> > to increase the dose to see if I get more progress. The bottle

> says

> > 30 drops, 1-2 times daily for adults. No specs for children.

It

> > does contain 20% ethanol... the big downside. Maybe he's just

> > drunk?

> >

> > Even my husband said our son was going through another burst in

> > progress. He NEVER makes observations out loud so it must be

good!

> >

> > Do we discontinue OLE to take a break like I would with GSE?

> >

> > thanks,

> >

> > Pam

> >

>

November 28, 2006

>

> Thanks, Dana. It is always nice to find interventions that actually

> work!!! I do give quite a few grams of C, but the Vit A is only

> from the multi-vitamin (2000 IU retinyl palmitate) and occasional

> CLO. To the naked eye, his immune system seems healthy... but I

> know the eyes can deceive me.

>

> I've got to do some viral research.

You can start here, if you want

http://www.danasview.net/parent3.htm#nids

Dana

November 28, 2006

>

> Well, we've now digressed to making farting noises after saying " I

> love you " and laughing hysterically. Boys. At least he still says

> it like he means it.

A few months ago, my #2 and #3 had a belching contest at the dinner

table. My husband and I saw it as a good sign LOL

Dana

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