Re: flagyl weeping and demons

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In a message dated 11/11/2006 16:27:05 GMT Standard Time, mark.grabiec@... writes:

We're on flagyl to address parasites from Dr U - is that what antibiotics do? and presume should up the probiotics also? any advice very gratefully received.

>>>This could get stressul but I would keep going. 90 mins after is when I give Activated charcoal - by the cooker timer even. Consider some Oxypowder if he needs it to make sure the charcaol moves through. My thoughts are with you

Mandi x

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In a message dated 11/11/2006 18:03:29 GMT Standard Time, Nevin.Penny@... writes:

My son is on Metronidazole(flagyl ) at present.He is taking 5ml 3times a day.He is 13,his self stim is high.he shows lots of handbiting,making grunting sounds and also he was showing head shakinglast night.He used it last year for the blastohominis bacteria and thesame reason this year he is still on.he couldn't get rid of.5 days to go,I am impatiently waiting him to finish the course

>>A 7 or 10 day course will hit the parasites some but it won;t make them all go away. You need to follow up with something OTC and keep going for 6-8 weeks to get all those nasty critters. They have a two month life cycle and you can only kill them at certain stages is my understanding. We did Flagyl and followed with Biobotanicals Biocidin for 3 months and had success. However, they generally come back at some point..................sigh

Mandi x

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Hi Steph

We too had this when was on the Flagyl. It lasted about 5

days. Pure hell at the time. V spotty as well. Having finished the

course, we then had yeast infection from hell. Looks like killing

off the clostridia then gave a free reign for yeast to get in.

Ended up with prescription for Diflucan from GP and in A and E on a

Sat night.

Looks like we are having to revisit this again as clostridia is

back. I'm v keen to learn more about collodial silver, O2 and

activated charcoal, which Mandi has mentioned. I know Flagyl does

the job temporarily but am concerned about using it given the chance

it comes back again......... Would definitly have Yeast treatment in

alongside Flagyl if we do this again.

Helen x

>

> Just two doses in to ten day cycle. Tom took second dose and half

an

> hour or so later - absolute fury and crying. I'd forgotten he

could

> look like that, really red in the face and furious. Throwing

things,

> grim, grim, grim.

>

> Calm again now after 30 mins or so. can someone advise what sort

of

> period I should leave after giving the flagyl to give the

activated

> charcol? we have to open the caps to get him to take it but

presume

> it still has some effect. But dont want to take the flagyl with it

of

> course, or not much point giving it.

>

> We're on flagyl to address parasites from Dr U - is that what

> antibiotics do? and presume should up the probiotics also? any

advice

> very gratefully received.

>

> Steph x

>

[Guest guest]

--Dear Steph,

My son is on Metronidazole(flagyl ) at present.He is taking 5ml 3

times a day.He is 13,his self stim is high.he shows lots of hand

biting,making grunting sounds and also he was showing head shaking

last night.He used it last year for the blastohominis bacteria and the

same reason this year he is still on.he couldn't get rid of.

5 days to go,I am impatiently waiting him to finish the course.

This is my experience.

I hope things get better for you.

nevin

[Guest guest]

-I am delighted with HBOT, oxypowder and most recently dioxychlor

which my son is now taking. He is much more affectionate and

engaging this week. Oxygenating the body can only help to shift the

little critters that space our kids out. My son has spacey episodes,

severe ones a few times every day still though and obviously still

has a lot of issues but I am really pleased with those

interventions.

Sue

-- In Autism Treatment , " tikka330726 "

<olivers4@...> wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi Steph

>

> We too had this when was on the Flagyl. It lasted about 5

> days. Pure hell at the time. V spotty as well. Having finished

the

> course, we then had yeast infection from hell. Looks like killing

> off the clostridia then gave a free reign for yeast to get in.

> Ended up with prescription for Diflucan from GP and in A and E on

a

> Sat night.

>

> Looks like we are having to revisit this again as clostridia is

> back. I'm v keen to learn more about collodial silver, O2 and

> activated charcoal, which Mandi has mentioned. I know Flagyl does

> the job temporarily but am concerned about using it given the

chance

> it comes back again......... Would definitly have Yeast treatment

in

> alongside Flagyl if we do this again.

>

> Helen x

>

>

> >

> > Just two doses in to ten day cycle. Tom took second dose and

half

> an

> > hour or so later - absolute fury and crying. I'd forgotten he

> could

> > look like that, really red in the face and furious. Throwing

> things,

> > grim, grim, grim.

> >

> > Calm again now after 30 mins or so. can someone advise what

sort

> of

> > period I should leave after giving the flagyl to give the

> activated

> > charcol? we have to open the caps to get him to take it but

> presume

> > it still has some effect. But dont want to take the flagyl with

it

> of

> > course, or not much point giving it.

> >

> > We're on flagyl to address parasites from Dr U - is that what

> > antibiotics do? and presume should up the probiotics also? any

> advice

> > very gratefully received.

> >

> > Steph x

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My son has had almost " possessed " crazy behaviours which have flared up

in the past and I had forgottten how bad they were. He still gets

spacey and manic. Viruses and yeast are the hidden enemy here just

waiting to kick our kids when they are down. I think they are as

harmful to my son now as the metal body burden. My daughter has metal

levels just as high as my son (she is lead poisoned but NT) so makes me

wonder if the only reason he succumbed to autism was the amount of

antibiotics he had after he was in hospital for pneumonia aged 5 weeks.

Sue

>

> --Dear Steph,

>

> My son is on Metronidazole(flagyl ) at present.He is taking 5ml 3

> times a day.He is 13,his self stim is high.he shows lots of hand

> biting,making grunting sounds and also he was showing head shaking

> last night.He used it last year for the blastohominis bacteria and the

> same reason this year he is still on.he couldn't get rid of.

> 5 days to go,I am impatiently waiting him to finish the course.

> This is my experience.

> I hope things get better for you.

>

> nevin

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Steph our dr said take charcoal one hour before and 2 hours after

other supps so doesn't interfere.

Peta -

-- In Autism Treatment , " stephaniesirr "

<mark.grabiec@...> wrote:

>

> Just two doses in to ten day cycle. Tom took second dose and half

an

> hour or so later - absolute fury and crying. I'd forgotten he

could

> look like that, really red in the face and furious. Throwing

things,

> grim, grim, grim.

>

> Calm again now after 30 mins or so. can someone advise what sort

of

> period I should leave after giving the flagyl to give the

activated

> charcol? we have to open the caps to get him to take it but

presume

> it still has some effect. But dont want to take the flagyl with it

of

> course, or not much point giving it.

>

> We're on flagyl to address parasites from Dr U - is that what

> antibiotics do? and presume should up the probiotics also? any

advice

> very gratefully received.

>

> Steph x

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Peta, it does seem to be working. Terrible nappy rash! Poor

chap. The arse of a baboon. Let's hope it's worth it.

> >

> > Just two doses in to ten day cycle. Tom took second dose and

half

> an

> > hour or so later - absolute fury and crying. I'd forgotten he

> could

> > look like that, really red in the face and furious. Throwing

> things,

> > grim, grim, grim.

> >

> > Calm again now after 30 mins or so. can someone advise what

sort

> of

> > period I should leave after giving the flagyl to give the

> activated

> > charcol? we have to open the caps to get him to take it but

> presume

> > it still has some effect. But dont want to take the flagyl with

it

> of

> > course, or not much point giving it.

> >

> > We're on flagyl to address parasites from Dr U - is that what

> > antibiotics do? and presume should up the probiotics also? any

> advice

> > very gratefully received.

> >

> > Steph x

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Steph,

I've read about sweet smelling diapers with maple syrup syndrome

(urine will smell like maple syrup) which has something to do with the

branched chain amino acids (I think). I wouldn't think this has

anything to do with your son. I've also read somewhere that sweet

smelling urine can be related to diabetes or starvation. None of

these would seem to apply. None of this is very helpful, but I would

think that if this smell continues, I would contact your doctor.

Hope he's through the bad patch soon,

Anita

>

> Hello

>

> Tom's on day two of flagyl. A ten day course. We've kept going with

> all his supps and sacc boulardii and probiotics, also added

activated

> charcoal about an hour after each dose. A couple of real weepy

rages

> but the most marked thing is very strange smelling nappies (sweet

> smeilling!!) and terrible bright red nappy rash. Poor chap!

>

> Has anyone else found this?

>

>

> Steph, Uk

>