Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 This sounds terrible. I don't have a real answer for you but I had my son on Biosil (Jarrow) a while back because his hair/nails were so brittle and not growing. It did help. I remember it said something on the bottle about supporting bone, joint health, etc. My son did knock his front tooth in a fall and it was pretty loose. I started giving him that and it tightened up pretty quickly and never turned gray or fell out. Just a thought. I do hope you get some better feedback about the flouride issues. It would seem that there would be a better alternative. > > Hello everyone: > I am desperate and need help. My 3 year old daughter has cavities on > all her teeth, we went to dentist yesterday all her teeth were > filled with composite resin, and she also had root canal on her > front tooth. > > Dentist said that all her enamel is gone, and is decalcifying, and > more prone to get more cavities. > > She recommends flouride application to prevent more cavities. > What should I do: why is she getting so many cavities, she is GFCF, > sugar free, exxcept for some honey, which I use to mix all her > supplements, twice a day, Is there any test I can run to see if > there is some bad bacteria, or something in her mouth breaking down > her teeth. cavities are progressing fast, by the time I received > denstist appointment, I see her front tooth melting, within two > weeks, the nerve is invaded needing root canal. Something is going > on, and I have no clue what it can be causing this rapid melt down > of teeth > Should I consider flouride gel application. > After seeing what she went through yesterday, I don't want her to > get her anymore cavities. > Please Advise. > Thanks > Padmaja > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 With cavities, you have to consider Streptococcus Mutans. I would work on giving probiotics to displace bad bacteria in gut and supplement with minerals paying particular attention to Molybdenum which will help with mineralization of enamel. [ ] mouth full of cavities > Hello everyone: > I am desperate and need help. My 3 year old daughter has cavities on > all her teeth, we went to dentist yesterday all her teeth were > filled with composite resin, and she also had root canal on her > front tooth. > > Dentist said that all her enamel is gone, and is decalcifying, and > more prone to get more cavities. > > She recommends flouride application to prevent more cavities. > What should I do: why is she getting so many cavities, she is GFCF, > sugar free, exxcept for some honey, which I use to mix all her > supplements, twice a day, Is there any test I can run to see if > there is some bad bacteria, or something in her mouth breaking down > her teeth. cavities are progressing fast, by the time I received > denstist appointment, I see her front tooth melting, within two > weeks, the nerve is invaded needing root canal. Something is going > on, and I have no clue what it can be causing this rapid melt down > of teeth > Should I consider flouride gel application. > After seeing what she went through yesterday, I don't want her to > get her anymore cavities. > Please Advise. > Thanks > Padmaja > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Dear Padmaja How traumatic this must be for you and your daughter. Given your situation, I would consider using xylitol as a sweetener for now, rather than honey. I like to use honey, but xylitol will not cause cavities and has actually been shown to help prevent them. The Weston A. Price Foundation is a great organization that might give you some longer-term strategies for promoting dental health. They have a huge archive of articles on health and nutrition, many of which deal with dental issues/flouridation, etc. They believe that many of our current dental issues are because of a lack of vitamins and trace minerals in our diet. You can go to www.westonaprice.org and type " tooth decay " into their search utility to read many relevant articles. Here is a link to a great article that may be especially relevant: http://www.westonaprice.org/traditional_diets/ancient_dietary_wisdom.h tml (you may need to copy and paste that into your browser) best wishes René > > Hello everyone: > I am desperate and need help. My 3 year old daughter has cavities on > all her teeth, we went to dentist yesterday all her teeth were > filled with composite resin, and she also had root canal on her > front tooth. > > Dentist said that all her enamel is gone, and is decalcifying, and > more prone to get more cavities. > > She recommends flouride application to prevent more cavities. > What should I do: why is she getting so many cavities, she is GFCF, > sugar free, exxcept for some honey, which I use to mix all her > supplements, twice a day, Is there any test I can run to see if > there is some bad bacteria, or something in her mouth breaking down > her teeth. cavities are progressing fast, by the time I received > denstist appointment, I see her front tooth melting, within two > weeks, the nerve is invaded needing root canal. Something is going > on, and I have no clue what it can be causing this rapid melt down > of teeth > Should I consider flouride gel application. > After seeing what she went through yesterday, I don't want her to > get her anymore cavities. > Please Advise. > Thanks > Padmaja > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 The fluoride generally used in dentistry is toxic waste from the nuclear industry. Is this a child you are chelating or who is high in lead? How are her calcium levels? Are you using a milk substitute? Nut mylk, soy mylk, rice mylk, etc? S S <p>Hello everyone:<br> I am desperate and need help. My 3 year old daughter has cavities on <br> all her teeth, we went to dentist yesterday all her teeth were <br> filled with composite resin, and she also had root canal on her <br> front tooth.<br> <br> Dentist said that all her enamel is gone, and is decalcifying, and <br> more prone to get more cavities.<br> <br> She recommends flouride application to prevent more cavities.<br> What should I do: why is she getting so many cavities, she is GFCF, <br> sugar free, exxcept for some honey, which I use to mix all her <br> supplements, twice a day, Is there any test I can run to see if <br> there is some bad bacteria, or something in her mouth breaking down <br> her teeth. cavities are progressing fast, by the time I received <br> denstist appointment, I see her front tooth melting, within two <br> weeks, the nerve is invaded needing root canal. Something is going <br> on, and I have no clue what it can be causing this rapid melt down <br> of teeth<br> Should I consider flouride gel application.<br> After seeing what she went through yesterday, I don't want her to <br> get her anymore cavities.<br> Please Advise.<br> Thanks<br> Padmaja<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 --- Hi : I have not yet started chelation yet, we are supposed to start soon, but had to wait due to this dental issues. she is on rice milk from whole foods, 365 brand. Her lead is not high on blood draw. Calcium levels, I am not sure of. Padmaja In , " Shepard Salzer " <_Shepard@...> wrote: > > > The fluoride generally used in dentistry is toxic waste from the nuclear industry. Is this a child you are chelating or who is high in lead? How are her calcium levels? Are you using a milk substitute? Nut mylk, soy mylk, rice mylk, etc? > S S > > > > <p>Hello everyone:<br> > I am desperate and need help. My 3 year old daughter has cavities on <br> > all her teeth, we went to dentist yesterday all her teeth were <br> > filled with composite resin, and she also had root canal on her <br> > front tooth.<br> > <br> > Dentist said that all her enamel is gone, and is decalcifying, and <br> > more prone to get more cavities.<br> > <br> > She recommends flouride application to prevent more cavities.<br> > What should I do: why is she getting so many cavities, she is GFCF, <br> > sugar free, exxcept for some honey, which I use to mix all her <br> > supplements, twice a day, Is there any test I can run to see if <br> > there is some bad bacteria, or something in her mouth breaking down <br> > her teeth. cavities are progressing fast, by the time I received <br> > denstist appointment, I see her front tooth melting, within two <br> > weeks, the nerve is invaded needing root canal. Something is going <br> > on, and I have no clue what it can be causing this rapid melt down <br> > of teeth<br> > Should I consider flouride gel application.<br> > After seeing what she went through yesterday, I don't want her to <br> > get her anymore cavities.<br> > Please Advise.<br> > Thanks<br> > Padmaja<br> > > > _______________________________________________ > Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com > The most personalized portal on the Web! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 --- Dear Rene: I have not thought of Xylitol, that is a great idea, I will try that to mix all all supplements. I am follwing weston A. Price, I have the Nourishing traditions book, I am trying to soak the grains and so. One question, if on GFCF diet, can I give her raw butter or not. Thanks Padmaja In , " joshisims " <joshisims@...> wrote: > > Dear Padmaja > > How traumatic this must be for you and your daughter. Given your > situation, I would consider using xylitol as a sweetener for now, > rather than honey. I like to use honey, but xylitol will not cause > cavities and has actually been shown to help prevent them. > > The Weston A. Price Foundation is a great organization that might > give you some longer-term strategies for promoting dental health. > They have a huge archive of articles on health and nutrition, many of > which deal with dental issues/flouridation, etc. They believe that > many of our current dental issues are because of a lack of vitamins > and trace minerals in our diet. You can go to www.westonaprice.org > and type " tooth decay " into their search utility to read many > relevant articles. Here is a link to a great article that may be > especially relevant: > > http://www.westonaprice.org/traditional_diets/ancient_dietary_wisdom. h > tml > > (you may need to copy and paste that into your browser) > > best wishes > René > > > > > > > > Hello everyone: > > I am desperate and need help. My 3 year old daughter has cavities > on > > all her teeth, we went to dentist yesterday all her teeth were > > filled with composite resin, and she also had root canal on her > > front tooth. > > > > Dentist said that all her enamel is gone, and is decalcifying, and > > more prone to get more cavities. > > > > She recommends flouride application to prevent more cavities. > > What should I do: why is she getting so many cavities, she is GFCF, > > sugar free, exxcept for some honey, which I use to mix all her > > supplements, twice a day, Is there any test I can run to see if > > there is some bad bacteria, or something in her mouth breaking > down > > her teeth. cavities are progressing fast, by the time I received > > denstist appointment, I see her front tooth melting, within two > > weeks, the nerve is invaded needing root canal. Something is going > > on, and I have no clue what it can be causing this rapid melt down > > of teeth > > Should I consider flouride gel application. > > After seeing what she went through yesterday, I don't want her to > > get her anymore cavities. > > Please Advise. > > Thanks > > Padmaja > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Honey is very hard on the teeth (since it's just heavy liquid sugar that can coat her teeth and get inbetween them even worse than regular sugar), but I doubt that it could be causing that much decay. I agree, the calcium could be an issue. Is she getting her teeth brushed pretty well? Enough protein? Fluoride can be toxic, but in this case you might need to try it - sounds like an awful experience - I hope you find what's causing the problem. -------------- Original message -------------- From: " Shepard Salzer " <_Shepard@...> The fluoride generally used in dentistry is toxic waste from the nuclear industry. Is this a child you are chelating or who is high in lead? How are her calcium levels? Are you using a milk substitute? Nut mylk, soy mylk, rice mylk, etc? S S <p>Hello everyone:<br> I am desperate and need help. My 3 year old daughter has cavities on <br> all her teeth, we went to dentist yesterday all her teeth were <br> filled with composite resin, and she also had root canal on her <br> front tooth.<br> <br> Dentist said that all her enamel is gone, and is decalcifying, and <br> more prone to get more cavities.<br> <br> She recommends flouride application to prevent more cavities.<br> What should I do: why is she getting so many cavities, she is GFCF, <br> sugar free, exxcept for some honey, which I use to mix all her <br> supplements, twice a day, Is there any test I can run to see if <br> there is some bad bacteria, or something in her mouth breaking down <br> her teeth. cavities are progressing fast, by the time I received <br> denstist appointment, I see her front tooth melting, within two <br> weeks, the nerve is invaded needing root canal. Something is going <br> on, and I have no clue what it can be causing this rapid melt down <br> of teeth<br> Should I consider flouride gel application.<br> After seeing what she went through yesterday, I don't want her to <br> get her anymore cavities.<br> Please Advise.<br> Thanks<br> Padmaja<br> _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Maybe he has gut issues and not absorbing nutrients that he needs. Perhaps try some of the transdermal products for nutrition like transdermal minerals I've seen some place. Could you get his nutrional status tested some place? If he did have nutrional problems, you could get IV of nutrients from some alternative doctors if gut is not absorbing. That may be 100.00 an IV though. At least that is what it costs here, but you maybe jump start with that and then look for other less costly ways to deal with nutrional needs bypassing the gut, some nutrients come sublinqual like zinc. > > > > > > > > Hello everyone: > > > I am desperate and need help. My 3 year old daughter has > cavities > > on > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Oops...I did not know child was so young. IV would be a little much for such young child. Anyway, transdermal or sublingual or just liquid multivitamin may be absorbed more easily. > > Maybe he has gut issues and not absorbing nutrients that he needs. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Honey can be hard on teeth if left on for a while because it is sticky. My son, who was cavity-free until his teenage years, suddenly got 6 cavities from drinking pop over a period of time without brushing. (He was working in a store and would take sips periodically.) Barb [ ] mouth full of cavities Hello everyone: I am desperate and need help. My 3 year old daughter has cavities on all her teeth, we went to dentist yesterday all her teeth were filled with composite resin, and she also had root canal on her front tooth. Dentist said that all her enamel is gone, and is decalcifying, and more prone to get more cavities. She recommends flouride application to prevent more cavities. What should I do: why is she getting so many cavities, she is GFCF, sugar free, exxcept for some honey, which I use to mix all her supplements, twice a day, Is there any test I can run to see if there is some bad bacteria, or something in her mouth breaking down her teeth. cavities are progressing fast, by the time I received denstist appointment, I see her front tooth melting, within two weeks, the nerve is invaded needing root canal. Something is going on, and I have no clue what it can be causing this rapid melt down of teeth Should I consider flouride gel application. After seeing what she went through yesterday, I don't want her to get her anymore cavities. Please Advise. Thanks Padmaja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 Padmaja, If your daughter absolutely needs to be completely casein free, then of course butter is a no-no. However, butter is relatively low casein compared to other dairy foods, being mostly fat. If you want to try raw butter (and I know that I sure would, if I could access any), you might want to test the waters first with ghee, which will be *really, really close to casein free, and slowly go from there. Or maybe high vitamin butter oil... You may be familiar with the Body Ecology Diet, which uses some Nourishing Tradition-style strategies like culturing foods and soaking grains, adapted for people with severe intestinal issues, including autism. BED is gluten free. Interestingly, I think that cultured butter is often introduced after the person has been on BED for a while and is showing improvement with things like coconut kefir, etc. take care René > > --- > > Dear Rene: > I have not thought of Xylitol, that is a great idea, I will try that > to mix all all supplements. > I am follwing weston A. Price, I have the Nourishing traditions > book, I am trying to soak the grains and so. > One question, if on GFCF diet, can I give her raw butter or not. > Thanks > Padmaja > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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