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Hello everyone,

I have a 13 year old boy with AS and we just joined the boy scouts.

They are going camping for a week in Rhode Island. I am having

anxieties but I thought we go and I stay with my son to see how it

goes. I am afraid...I guess because we are knew and the scoutmaster it

not very helpful. Does anyone have any suggestions. If I do go, I am

hoping I don't destroy my son or make him stress or does anyone think

this would be good for him. I will be staying with him. Would I be

really causing him anxieties if I stayed a day and then leave him

there? Other mothers are leaving but their husbands are with them. My

husband doesn't want to go.

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My sons have both been in cub scouts since they were old enough to go. In cub

scouts, the parents pretty much have to go to overnights with the kids, with

slight exceptions.

My older son just moved up to boy scouts in Feb. and they do ALOT of camping!

Every month they have an overnight camping outing and in July they go for a

week. There is no way at this point that he would be okay with being there by

himself, though it is a goal we're working towards. We tried to get him to go

to a weekend event last month with the leader that he had almost all the way

through cub scouts and he wasn't having none of it! And, even though I was the

one planning to go, at the last minute, DS freaked out and thought it was weird

that I was going and my DH caved in and went. He didn't want to because he's

going for the weeklong camp here shortly.

I've found that even when the scout leaders want to be helpful they don't do

the best job at recognizing and avoiding the triggers. And, while there are

scheduled activities, there's lots of " down " or " free " time where my son would

have a difficult time with. Not very structured, and too many opportunities for

social faux pas. Like I said, once he's done this a few times and had the

opportunity to figure out and see the process, we're hoping it becomes familiar

enough and he's able to do it. Right now, he's not.

My DH is going up all week, as are a number of other parents. Could you maybe

" swap " with your DH, where you go at the beginning and he goes at the end? DS

would probably really like that and then neither of you would have to camp for a

whole week? I'm going up with brother and sister the last night, as they have

court of honor and will be advancing in rank. I understand that's a fairly

typical activity that last night.

anne <mrynnqt@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,

I have a 13 year old boy with AS and we just joined the boy scouts.

They are going camping for a week in Rhode Island. I am having

anxieties but I thought we go and I stay with my son to see how it

goes. I am afraid...I guess because we are knew and the scoutmaster it

not very helpful. Does anyone have any suggestions. If I do go, I am

hoping I don't destroy my son or make him stress or does anyone think

this would be good for him. I will be staying with him. Would I be

really causing him anxieties if I stayed a day and then leave him

there? Other mothers are leaving but their husbands are with them. My

husband doesn't want to go.

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I think it would be a challenge to go to Scout summer camp for any

child who hasn't been with the troop for very long.

So, if it doesn't go perfectly smoothly, don't despair. My son is

going to camp next week, and DH will go along as always. (He is an ASM.)

My son was in Cub Scouts since age 6, but he just has issues, you

know! His main problems are eating (which is easier when there

is a dining hall--more options), getting lost (even with a buddy LOL

there is an older scout that does a nice job keeping him on track),

and being able to do the physical things because of his gross and

fine motor skills. But he hangs in there. He brings his spinning

thing. He's

not shy anymore about it--it keeps him grounded. Oh, and the

bathrooms--major issue. DH makes sure he takes up to the

place that

has porcelain at least twice a day if 's activities don't call

for him to be in those locations anyway. Sleeping in a tent is

something

really enjoys.

has several friends in his troop. Maybe not people he sees

outside of Scouts, but that he gets along with. They tend to have some

issues, too, and don't think anything of other's unique traits. In

our area, there are plenty of Scouts with underdeveloped social skills.

Campfires at the end of the day are the best.

Last year it rained the entire week due to Rita, which was okay

because it wasn't hot. He's not big into heat. This year, DH made

sure to

schedule him physically light in the afternoons.

Next week, my Cub and I are going to day camp. I am going as his 1:1.

Jackie

ph (10, Asperger's/ADHD)

(12, PDD-NOS/ADHD)

On Jul 6, 2006, at 11:21 AM, maryanne devito wrote:

> It is called Camp Yawgoog. Are you familiar with it? This is my

> son's first time and he has anxieties. I will be staying there

> with him. We are going to see if he likes it and if not, or if I

> don't, we will leave. He is new the boyscouts and I don't think I

> feel that comfortable with the troop.

>

> ppanda65@... wrote: Hi. Whereabouts in Rhode Island?

> Camp Champlin? I live in Rhode Island not

> too far from the camp. Pam :)

>

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I am going with him.

ppanda65@... wrote: It is a nice area. Will your son have a support

person? or someone he can

go to if he has issues? Pam :)

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My son is a Webloo2 and will be crossing over in March. I was going

to ask the boyscout leader then if he could ask one of the older boys

to be a mentor to DS. To help watch where he is and what he is

doing. DS tends to still hid and just wonder off if your not

watching him. I thought his way he won't feel like he's beging

treated like a baby because there is an adult watching him all the

time. I'm hoping one of the older high school boys will be willing

to do this because I KNOW he dosen't want me around and there is no

DH to go instead.

> Hello everyone,

>

> I have a 13 year old boy with AS and we just joined the boy scouts.

> They are going camping for a week in Rhode Island. I am having

> anxieties but I thought we go and I stay with my son to see how it

> goes. I am afraid...I guess because we are knew and the scoutmaster

it

> not very helpful. Does anyone have any suggestions. If I do go, I

am

> hoping I don't destroy my son or make him stress or does anyone

think

> this would be good for him. I will be staying with him. Would I be

> really causing him anxieties if I stayed a day and then leave him

> there? Other mothers are leaving but their husbands are with them.

My

> husband doesn't want to go.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>> I've found that even when the scout leaders want to be helpful

> they don't do the best job at recognizing and avoiding the

> triggers.

Keep in mind that Boy Scouts are boy-run. Summer camp is planned by

adults, too,

but largely run by the boys. Adult leaders are volunteers,

and you're doing well if they are trained sufficiently for all the

normal

stuff. Let alone special needs Scouts! You, as parents, are great

assets to Troops as volunteers and educators.

DH just gave a presentation at Roundtable (monthly leader training)

about special needs Scouts, focusing mostly on depression, BP, ADHD

and ASD. (We have many in our area.) It was very well received.

The biggest message, though, was to get with the parents and

together come up with some strategies. He is going to give it at

University of Scouting next year, I think. For adults who do not

have personal experience with such conditions, it's very hard to know

what to do. How long does it take us to get our kids' teachers to

understand?

(I don't think I ever really got the message across.) And sometimes,

how many

times have we had trouble with our own doctors!!

The older Scout that helps my son has some issues himself with kids

his age. He gets along better with the younger boys. So it works out

well. But in other cases, it needs to be arranged way in advance with

someone that takes a natural attraction to your son's interests and

abilities.

You are likely to encounter many novel situations in Scouts and at camp.

It depends on what the Scout's issues are, but it can be a challenge.

I am not denying that. There are strategies that can help make

Scouting

an inclusive, enjoyable experience with boys with ASD. But it takes

a lot

of planning!

Jackie

Webelos and 2nd class Scout mom

Advancements Chair, Pack 136

Comm. Member, Troop 112

Crossroads of America Council

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