yeast and/or bacteria

[Guest guest]

I sit here at my computer trying to put into words what is going on

in my little guy and feel completely overwhelmed. I'm sure most of

you know the exact feeling. My 2.4 yr old ASD son seems to have a

yeast or possibly bacteria problem. We have been GFCF for 4 months

and on enzymes for about 2 months. He takes all 3 enzymes at each

meal and substantial snacks. A couple of weeks ago I began to give

him enzymes between meals without food to help with gut healing (or

so I thought). This began a chain of events that bring us to this

point. After a few days of this treatment, we began to have the

classic symptoms of die off. Spinning, vocal stims, laughing, and

the tell all yellow, foamy stools. The die off seemed unbearable

and we backed off the enzymes between meals and added back in

calc/magnesium and epsom salts (we had stopped them to do a test our

DAN Dr wanted) We also started on a probiotic and are slowly upping

him to 1 capsule a day. The stims are better and stools are

somewhat better. But something is still not quite right. He is

lethargic, unfocused, pail, LARGE circles under his eys, not

attempting vocalization and seems to have sensory issues. He never

has really had many sensory issues (or at least not that we could

tell). He now wants to squeeze himself into small spaces and keeps

pulling his own hair (maybe a headache??) We have also just got

back his stool analysis (we haven't discussed with our DAN Dr.

yet). It indicates that he does not have the beneficial bacteria

bifidobacterium at all in his gut. It says NO GROWTH on the

report. It also indicates that he has Klebsiella as a possible

pathogen. I'm assuming that's bad bacteria. So, I am so confused

on the difference between bacteria and yeast. I know I have seen

Dana post that if she gives GSE for too long then she has a bacteria

problem. Does bacteria have symptoms similar to yeast? How do I

treat the bacteria? Since he doesn't have the good bacteria, is it

possible that he gets yeast overgrowth, I treat that and get that in

check but the bad bacteria is always still there and getting worse?

Hence the feeling that something is not quite right. I know the

earliest we will be able to talk to his DAN Dr. is Tuesday, but I

would like to start something to help give him some relief prior to

them. From reading 's book, I was thinking I should up the

proteases between meals..I think this is our PEP. As well as

continue the probiotic..possibly upping that as well. Then giving

stuff to help with the die off, epsom salts, magnesium etc. I could

also give Vitamin C. Any suggestions or insights into bacteria is

greatly appreciated!

Thanks

..mom to Sam 2.4 ASD and Madelyn 14months

[Guest guest]

> back his stool analysis (we haven't discussed with our DAN Dr.

> yet). It indicates that he does not have the beneficial bacteria

> bifidobacterium at all in his gut. It says NO GROWTH on the

> report. It also indicates that he has Klebsiella as a possible

> pathogen. I'm assuming that's bad bacteria. So, I am so confused

> on the difference between bacteria and yeast.

They can cause similar symptoms. Here is my page

http://www.danasview.net/yeast.htm

Dana