RE: Piracetam and Hydergine experiences?

[Guest guest]

Sheryl,

I actually had a post on this as well aniracetam (sp?) which is supposed to

be even stronger than piracetam. Both of these fall into the so-called

" smart drugs " which are supposed to enhance cognitive abilities. However,

both

of these have such short half lives that you have to dose every 3 or 4 hours.

Then there's the question of whether they even are able to cross the

blood-brain barrier, and even do what they are purported to do.

What I find fascinating is that ampakines, the drugs being tested on the

fragile X and autistic populations to also increase cognitive abilities (i.e.,

i.q) are derived from these very same substances--piracetam and aniracetam.

I'm guessing that part of the new improved ampakines is a better delivery

system that does reach the brain for longer periods.

I also asked Dr. Usman about piracetam and she said they have not seen any

improvements with this. You might want to try them anyway on yourself--

they're available on the internet. Also check on memantine and Dr. Tom Owley's

research on this.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 06/04/2006 19:14:00 GMT Daylight Time, Momlaw@...

writes:

I also asked Dr. Usman about piracetam and she said they have not seen any

improvements with this.

>>>She Rx'd for a mate of mine and her child has done very well on the

Piracetam FWIW. I have some, about to iontroduce that next, will report back

Mandi in UK

_Treating Autism_ (http://www.treatingautism.com/)

[Guest guest]

I got some piracetam, thought it might be beneficial after

researching it. Much of what is written about it seems it might

address deficites in my son.

From one site, that sums up what i read mostly:

Enhances Brain Metabolism (By increasing Glucose Utilization, Blood &

Oxygen Flow) [boosts mental energy & cerebral circulation].

-Increases Cerebral Phospholipids & Cellular Membrane Fluidity (By

interacting with the polar head moieties of the phospholipid bilayer)

[supports healthy neuron communication & structure].

-Supports Cognitive Receptors (By amplifying the density of the

Muscarinic Cholinergic [Frontal Cortex, Striatum, & Hippocampus],

NMDA (N-Methyl-D-Aspartate) [Hippocampus], & AMPA (Alpha-amino-3-

hydroxy-5-Methyl-4-isoxazole-Propionic Acid) [Cerebral Cortex]

Receptors) [strengthens neurotransmitter receptors involved in memory

and neuroprotection].

-Stimulates the Corpus Callosum, an area of the brain that controls

communication between the left and right hemispheres (Increases

communication between both hemispheres) [involved in speech and

creative thinking].

- Stimulates the Locus Coeruleus, (specialized neurons) [involved in

information processing, attention, cortical/behavioral arousal,

learning and memory]

-Inhibits Platelet Aggregation (By increasing Red-White blood cells &

Platelet deformability, inhibiting thromboxane A2 synthetase or

antagonism of thromboxane A2, reducing von Willebrand's factor &

fibrinogen levels) [supports Healthy Blood Flow].

-Decreases EEG complexity (Increases cooperatively of brain

functional processing) [Positively effects Neuro-Electrical

Functioning].

-Has a significant antioxidant effect.

I tried it myself and i rather liked how it made me feel.Thinking

was defiently clearer when working on written projects(i typically

have brain fog/amalgam poisoning). Not much notice when just watching

tv or the like except I tend to think deep thoughts instead of

getting lost in the show. It did give me a headache the first time,

and most recommend it be taken with choline.

I havent tried it with my son yet tho, mainly because I am doing

other things, Chelation and MB12 Nasal so I want to use those for a

while longer before trying it.

There is an even more potent derivative, Pramiracetam,(also fat

soluble) that is longer lasting that either piracetam or

aniracetam , but i havent tried that yet. Some interesting info on

it: http://www.biopsychiatry.com/pramiracetam.htm

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Mandi for being the guinea pig here, awaiting more reports :-)

Re: [ ] Re: Piracetam and Hydergine experiences?

In a message dated 07/04/2006 12:56:30 GMT Daylight Time,

elfischer@... writes:

Where did you buy it? Does it require a script. I have been looking

for a reputable supplier.

>>>No script required.

Took one at 9.00am , not turbo charged in the brain dept yet but I guess its

like trying to supp and elephant with a smartie - I think go take some more

LOL

I got mine at Relentless Improvement

_Relentless Improvement Premium-Quality Supplements and Nutriceuticals Home_

(http://www.relentlessimprovement.com/)

HTH

Mandi in UK

_Treating Autism_ (http://www.treatingautism.com/)

[Guest guest]

I dont think i felt much with the very first dosage, it was definetly

a more I took the more intense the results were. And it did wear off

in about 3 hours, with a slight feeling i wanted more.

What is your dosage? From the message board I read where lots of people

took it seems it takes about 3 to 4 grams a day to be effective. I

took 1 gram each dosage.

Hows it going Mandi ? The best way to see the difference, at least to

me, was working on something written, create language, or engage in a

lively debate.

Cheryl

[Guest guest]

HI, I HAVE BEEN USING PIRACETAM FOR ABOUT 6 MONTHS AND I DO THINK IT IS HELPING

MY SON WITH CONCENTRATION AND CALMNESS.....WHAT CAN IT HURT TO TRY IT?

CORINNE VELA

[ ] Piracetam and Hydergine experiences?

I was wondering if any of you have had any experiences using either

Piracetam and/or Hydergine (either alone or in combination) for your

child? I have been reading about them and it seems they may be able

to help our kids with attention issues and focus. Some of the

literature even states that they improved blood flow to the brain and

may help build neurons. I'd be interested in any feedback you have

and would be willing to share.

Thanks,

Sheryl

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 08/04/2006 21:58:44 GMT Daylight Time,

Ladyshrink111@... writes:

My book says 100 mg per kg or 2.2 lbs. Good luck,

>>>>ROFL - thats why two x 800mg had no effect on me then

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

Corinne:

How often do you dose it and how much? Curious, I would like to try

this with my 3.5 child. His big issues are language,

concentration/calmness, and sometimes anxiety.

Re: [ ] Piracetam and Hydergine experiences?

HI, I HAVE BEEN USING PIRACETAM FOR ABOUT 6 MONTHS AND I DO THINK IT IS

HELPING MY SON WITH CONCENTRATION AND CALMNESS.....WHAT CAN IT HURT TO

TRY IT?

CORINNE VELA

[ ] Piracetam and Hydergine experiences?

I was wondering if any of you have had any experiences using either

Piracetam and/or Hydergine (either alone or in combination) for your

child? I have been reading about them and it seems they may be able

to help our kids with attention issues and focus. Some of the

literature even states that they improved blood flow to the brain and

may help build neurons. I'd be interested in any feedback you have

and would be willing to share.

Thanks,

Sheryl

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[Guest guest]

My book says 100 mg per kg or 2.2 lbs. Good luck,

[ ] Piracetam and Hydergine experiences?

I was wondering if any of you have had any experiences using either

Piracetam and/or Hydergine (either alone or in combination) for your

child? I have been reading about them and it seems they may be able

to help our kids with attention issues and focus. Some of the

literature even states that they improved blood flow to the brain and

may help build neurons. I'd be interested in any feedback you have

and would be willing to share.

Thanks,

Sheryl

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[Guest guest]

Lol, glad to hear from you Mandi, thinking the piracetam got you!

Re: [ ] Piracetam and Hydergine experiences?

In a message dated 08/04/2006 21:58:44 GMT Daylight Time,

Ladyshrink111@... writes:

My book says 100 mg per kg or 2.2 lbs. Good luck,

>>>>ROFL - thats why two x 800mg had no effect on me then

Mandi x