Re: I am so mad at my son!! HELP!!

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In a message dated 19/01/2006 12:34:23 GMT Standard Time,

Ajerseygirl52@... writes:

I am just depressed and distraught over

this behavior. Every morning we wake up to wonder what he took and ate. One

morning it's a loaf of bread and another it's a 4 pack of chocolate

pudding.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

>>The only thing I can suggest is not to have this stuff in the house. We

keep things like chips and sweet stuff locked int he garage. Do you have a

garage?

Mandi in UK

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Last night he woke up and drank 4 Milk Chocolate

> Milk Shakes, a 1 liter bottle of Coke and 1/2 bag of frozen M & M's.

And then

> he gets up and goes thru the garbage to take out the previous days

newspaper

> so he can stim on them! HELP!!

Oh honey, you've got to buy only healthy food to have in the house,

for your whole family's sake. If that stuff isn't in the house,

problem solved, and you'll feel better too.

Nell

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You can't afford the headaches and stress you're going through. Lock up

everything containing gluten and casein at least at night. Do you have a cooler

in which you could put non-frozen items and lock them in the car? Consider

trying Houston enzymes. They're $20 for a bottle of 90 capsules. They replace

the gfcf diet for some people. They would be a lot easier for you than trying

to implement the gfcf diet. Start stocking the house with healthy food and

don't replace the junk food. When it's gone it's gone. You could also get an

alarm for his bedroom door to alert you that he's up and prowling...Some of the

money currently spent on junk food could be put aside to pay for the enzymes and

a lockable cabinet or gfcf food.

Stimming on the newspaper seems rather harmless. If you know he'll look for it

anyway, put it somewhere other than the trash, like in a recycle bin where he

can easily get to it without making a mess, as it sounds like his going through

the trash is the real issue.

S S

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As most of you may know, My 17 year old son, has severe nonverbal  <BR>

autism and adhd. Every night this child gets up and binges on everything he can 

<BR>

find and open to eat...The more I look at what he eats the more I see the  <BR>

cravings for Gluten and Casein. Last night he woke up and drank 4 Milk Chocolate

<BR>

Milk Shakes, a 1 liter bottle of Coke and 1/2 bag of frozen M & M's. And then 

<BR>

he gets up and goes thru the garbage to take out the previous days newspaper

<BR>

so  he can stim on them! HELP!!~ I can't punish him because I don't know if he

<BR>

would  realize what he was being punished for. I am so tired of this <BR>

behavior....I  can't afford to try the gfcf diet, it's too huge for me to do

right <BR>

now. I can't  afford a lockable cabinet. I am just depressed and distraught over

<BR>

this  behavior. Every morning we wake up to wonder what he took and ate. One

<BR>

morning  it's a loaf of bread and another it's a 4 pack of chocolate pudding.

<BR>

Any  suggestions would be greatly appreciated. <BR>

Hope everyone has a wonderful day!  <BR>

<BR>

Hugs and Blessings,<BR>

Sue<BR>

'Wife to: Jim<BR>

Mom to: <BR>

  17 (severe nonverbal autism, developmental delays and adhd )<BR>

12  (early onset bipolar disorder, adhd, and possible ODD)<BR>

5 (developmental  delay and adhd)<BR>

na 3 (totally average girl with no disabilities, delays  or disorders so

<BR>

far Thank God!!)<BR>

<BR>

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You can lock the stuff in the trunk of your car, extreme, but works. I agree,

not in the house, we found just causes a lot of arguments. Now that she is

better, we have let up a little and allow a treat a day and she seems satisfied

with that. I think being too restrictive causes some problems also. I like a

little treat a day also :-)

[ ] I am so mad at my son!! HELP!!

As most of you may know, My 17 year old son, has severe nonverbal

autism and adhd. Every night this child gets up and binges on everything he

can

find and open to eat...The more I look at what he eats the more I see the

cravings for Gluten and Casein. Last night he woke up and drank 4 Milk

Chocolate

Milk Shakes, a 1 liter bottle of Coke and 1/2 bag of frozen M & M's. And then

he gets up and goes thru the garbage to take out the previous days newspaper

so he can stim on them! HELP!!~ I can't punish him because I don't know if he

would realize what he was being punished for. I am so tired of this

behavior....I can't afford to try the gfcf diet, it's too huge for me to do

right

now. I can't afford a lockable cabinet. I am just depressed and distraught

over

this behavior. Every morning we wake up to wonder what he took and ate. One

morning it's a loaf of bread and another it's a 4 pack of chocolate pudding.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Hope everyone has a wonderful day!

Hugs and Blessings,

Sue

'Wife to: Jim

Mom to:

17 (severe nonverbal autism, developmental delays and adhd )

12 (early onset bipolar disorder, adhd, and possible ODD)

5 (developmental delay and adhd)

na 3 (totally average girl with no disabilities, delays or disorders so

far Thank God!!)

[Guest guest]

Sue,

I'm going to go along the same lines the other parents have

offered:

At the rate is eating, the GFCF diet might SAVE you money!

I like the idea of HNI enzymes, too. This might not be the answer,

but it is worth a try. Get that junk food out of the house for

now. Your other kids will complain, I know, but I think you need to

go drastic here. Maybe once a week go out and buy a 'treat' for the

kids... only enough for that day instead of stocking up.

Can you put the non-perishables in a box under your bed or in your

closet? There are locks that can be placed on the refrigerator at

night that aren't fancy or expensive (depending on the fridge's

handle style). Sounds like you sleep through this behavior?

Are you in Jersey? What services are available to a child this

age? Perhaps some crisis $$$ for a lock box or small fridge you can

put in your garage and lock 24 hours a day? Do you have any type of

case manager? Church?

Does binge around the clock if you let him? I'm no doctor,

but this reminds me of Prader Willi Syndrome. Is over

weight because of this binging or slim? Is this a long time problem?

You are so stressed. Any big change seems impossible right now, I

know. We can't do it for you, just offer suggestions. That stinks.

Hang in there and take a serious look at removing the unhealthy

stockpile of food for at least a trial run.

Pam

>

> As most of you may know, My 17 year old son, has severe

nonverbal

> autism and adhd. Every night this child gets up and binges on

everything he can

> find and open to eat...The more I look at what he eats the more I

see the

> cravings for Gluten and Casein. Last night he woke up and drank 4

Milk Chocolate

> Milk Shakes, a 1 liter bottle of Coke and 1/2 bag of frozen

M & M's. And then

> he gets up and goes thru the garbage to take out the previous days

newspaper

> so he can stim on them! HELP!!~ I can't punish him because I

don't know if he

> would realize what he was being punished for. I am so tired of

this

> behavior....I can't afford to try the gfcf diet, it's too huge

for me to do right

> now. I can't afford a lockable cabinet. I am just depressed and

distraught over

> this behavior. Every morning we wake up to wonder what he took

and ate. One

> morning it's a loaf of bread and another it's a 4 pack of

chocolate pudding.

> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

> Hope everyone has a wonderful day!

>

> Hugs and Blessings,

> Sue

> 'Wife to: Jim

> Mom to:

> 17 (severe nonverbal autism, developmental delays and

adhd )

> 12 (early onset bipolar disorder, adhd, and possible ODD)

> 5 (developmental delay and adhd)

> na 3 (totally average girl with no disabilities, delays or

disorders so

> far Thank God!!)

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

I really don't think you're going to have any rest here until you just bite

the bullet and do the diet! Once you get substitutes for all his regular

food (we order from a food co-op) it's really not a big deal!

Sorry to not be more helpful . . .

Barb

[ ] I am so mad at my son!! HELP!!

> As most of you may know, My 17 year old son, has severe nonverbal

> autism and adhd. Every night this child gets up and binges on everything

> he can

> find and open to eat...The more I look at what he eats the more I see the

> cravings for Gluten and Casein. Last night he woke up and drank 4 Milk

> Chocolate

> Milk Shakes, a 1 liter bottle of Coke and 1/2 bag of frozen M & M's. And

> then

> he gets up and goes thru the garbage to take out the previous days

> newspaper

> so he can stim on them! HELP!!~ I can't punish him because I don't know

> if he

> would realize what he was being punished for. I am so tired of this

> behavior....I can't afford to try the gfcf diet, it's too huge for me to

> do right

> now. I can't afford a lockable cabinet. I am just depressed and

> distraught over

> this behavior. Every morning we wake up to wonder what he took and ate.

> One

> morning it's a loaf of bread and another it's a 4 pack of chocolate

> pudding.

> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

> Hope everyone has a wonderful day!

>

> Hugs and Blessings,

> Sue

> 'Wife to: Jim

> Mom to:

> 17 (severe nonverbal autism, developmental delays and adhd )

> 12 (early onset bipolar disorder, adhd, and possible ODD)

> 5 (developmental delay and adhd)

> na 3 (totally average girl with no disabilities, delays or disorders

> so

> far Thank God!!)

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

In order to control the searching and additive behaviors surrounding

food, we have an old fridge/freezer in the garage where all the

offenders are locked away. Even after 5 years some things are just

too hard for our daughter to resist[seizures are still her response].

It sounds like all your children would benefit from the diet. It

becomes second nature after awhile. B.

>

> Sue,

>

> I really don't think you're going to have any rest here until you

just bite

> the bullet and do the diet! Once you get substitutes for all his

regular

> food (we order from a food co-op) it's really not a big deal!

>

> Sorry to not be more helpful . . .

> Barb

> [ ] I am so mad at my son!! HELP!!

>

>

> > As most of you may know, My 17 year old son, has severe

nonverbal

> > autism and adhd. Every night this child gets up and binges on

everything

> > he can

> > find and open to eat...The more I look at what he eats the more I

see the

> > cravings for Gluten and Casein. Last night he woke up and drank 4

Milk

> > Chocolate

> > Milk Shakes, a 1 liter bottle of Coke and 1/2 bag of frozen

M & M's. And

> > then

> > he gets up and goes thru the garbage to take out the previous

days

> > newspaper

> > so he can stim on them! HELP!!~ I can't punish him because I

don't know

> > if he

> > would realize what he was being punished for. I am so tired of

this

> > behavior....I can't afford to try the gfcf diet, it's too huge

for me to

> > do right

> > now. I can't afford a lockable cabinet. I am just depressed and

> > distraught over

> > this behavior. Every morning we wake up to wonder what he took

and ate.

> > One

> > morning it's a loaf of bread and another it's a 4 pack of

chocolate

> > pudding.

> > Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

> > Hope everyone has a wonderful day!

> >

> > Hugs and Blessings,

> > Sue

> > 'Wife to: Jim

> > Mom to:

> > 17 (severe nonverbal autism, developmental delays and

adhd )

> > 12 (early onset bipolar disorder, adhd, and possible ODD)

> > 5 (developmental delay and adhd)

> > na 3 (totally average girl with no disabilities, delays or

disorders

> > so

> > far Thank God!!)

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sue,

I agree with Nell on the GF/CF, and maybe he's got a sugar problem

also. Unfortunately, starting it isn't the easiest thing. Just try

starting gradually.

In the meantime, you can get some Tot Loks. They are magnetic cabinet

locks that only release with a magnetic " key " by touching the outside

of the cabinet. It would take a very determined person of any age to

get past them, short of ripping off the cabinet door. They are

invisible once installed and just take a screwdriver to install.

There's also a small lever you can flip to disable them when they're

not needed. Most places that carry child safety stuff will have them.

Hope that helps,

[Guest guest]

>

> Sue,

> I agree with Nell on the GF/CF, and maybe he's got a sugar problem

> also.

Actually I'm not much of a gfcf supporter, it was the junk food I was

concerned about. I wholeheartedly second the suggestion to try Houston

enzymes instead of gfcf. Also agree with that after they get

to a certain age, having NO sweet treats at all gets to be a problem.

You can get fruit leather and chocolate bars at Whole Foods with no

corn syrup, vanillin, dyes, etc....I hide them in my underwear drawer!

Nell

[Guest guest]

Sorry, I only saw the two e-mails I replied to earlier. So I apologize for

" double-posting " :

Sue said:

" Every night this child gets up and binges on everything he can

find and open to eat...The more I look at what he eats the more I see the

cravings for Gluten and Casein. Last night he woke up and drank 4 Milk

Chocolate

Milk Shakes, a 1 liter bottle of Coke and 1/2 bag of frozen M & M's. "

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And what I personally see is: caffeine, caffeine, caffeine. My personal

experience is that if there is mold or mildew in the bedroom or allergens of

some sort in the mattress, it is impossible to sleep and then I crave

caffeine. When I cannot sleep and I crave caffeine, I start looking for

what is causing me to react allergically and the first place I look is the

bed and bedding. If it were my child, I would wash all his bedding with

something like peroxide or baking soda rather than detergent and use hot

water and high heat in the dryer to try to kill everything and see if that

improves his night-time behaviors.

Not disputing that he may also need a GFCF diet, just giving another point

of view.

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Have you tried hiding the food, or just not buying food that you think is not good for him? Is your son overweight? Is he still growing? Karac eats a lot, but he is still growing. Will your son eat protein? I find that Karac eats less when he has eaten plenty of protein. I know what you mean about that diet. It is a lot of work.

When Karac was on Risperdal, it was terrible. He wanted to eat constantly and if you got in his way you might get pinched or bitten! LOL, Pat K