Re: Medical Exemption for Catholic School

[Guest guest]

I am not in NJ, but here are some links that can be helpful:

http://www.vaclib.org/chapter/exemptnj.htm

http://www.mercola.com/article/vaccines/legally_avoid_shots.htm

Jackie---

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> Has anyone had any success with a medical exemption to get a child

> admitted to Catholic School?? Here in NJ, the Bishops flatly refuse

> Religious Exemptions.

[Guest guest]

What is a medical exemption? Two of my kids attend Catholic School and

my autistic child has to attend a public. I am curious to hear what you

are talking about.

Jeannine

>

> Has anyone had any success with a medical exemption to get a child

admitted to Catholic School?? Here in NJ, the Bishops flatly refuse

Religious Exemptions.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tell the bishop many vaccines are made with aborted fetus diploid cells....the

vatican wrote about it last summer...it is absolutely true...and that you can't

inject an aborted baby into your child. That might help...it did me.

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From: " Vostenak " <mvostenak@...>

> Has anyone had any success with a medical exemption to get a child admitted to

> Catholic School?? Here in NJ, the Bishops flatly refuse Religious Exemptions.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ladies:

I recieved the same refusal from Catholic Schools and down here in NC. This was

several years ago. My ASD is now 10 in the public schools system. Yuck

Thanks Diesel

[ ] Re: Medical Exemption for Catholic School

> What is a medical exemption? Two of my kids attend Catholic School and

> my autistic child has to attend a public. I am curious to hear what you

> are talking about.

>

> Jeannine

>

>

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> >

> > Has anyone had any success with a medical exemption to get a child

> admitted to Catholic School?? Here in NJ, the Bishops flatly refuse

> Religious Exemptions.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

julie,

i've heard that as well (http://www.cogforlife.org/) but my concern is that

the flu vax are " ethically " -safe but certainly not mercury-safe and as such

it doesn't seem like the exemption would apply should NJ start mandating

flu vax for kids as been proposed.

--todd

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Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 19:14:00 +0000

From: julieobradovic@...

Subject: Re: Medical Exemption for Catholic School

Tell the bishop many vaccines are made with aborted fetus diploid

cells....the vatican wrote about it last summer...it is absolutely

true...and that you can't inject an aborted baby into your child. That

might help...it did me.

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The only other thing I've been told (by my father, an attorney) is that you can

force them to sign liabilty papers for your child....meaning that, if you

decline to medicate them due to fear of the consequences and they insist upon

that medication...they have to hold themselves responsible for any and all

consequences of that decision. Most school districts wouldn't dream of taking on

that kind of liability. It might be worth looking into.

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> Tell the bishop many vaccines are made with aborted fetus diploid

> cells....the vatican wrote about it last summer...it is absolutely

> true...and that you can't inject an aborted baby into your child. That

> might help...it did me.

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[Guest guest]

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> Has anyone had any success with a medical exemption to get a child

admitted to Catholic School?? Here in NJ, the Bishops flatly refuse

Religious Exemptions.

NJ state-authorized exemptions

http://home.san.rr.com/via/STATES/main-nj.htm

The vatican has issued a statement on the moral implications of

vaccinations. Perhaps the Bishops would be interested in reading it.

http://www.cogforlife.org/vaticanresponse.htm

Dana

[Guest guest]

What the bishop is doing is illegal.

Private schools are subject to state vaccination laws. Ask him why

he condons injecting things made with aborted fetals cells into

babies? There is a letter online somewhere from the pope stating

that this is counterdictory to catholic religion.

I would suggest going to this site and digging around for some

ammunition in your exemption.

http://www.vaclib.org/links/religion.htm

Perhaps the bishop would hear you better if you decided to spend

your money on another religious school. Christian schools can

provide a similar religious education.

You could also contact a lawyer as he is in violation of the law. It

is your right to refuse vaccination.

>

> Has anyone had any success with a medical exemption to get a child

admitted to Catholic School?? Here in NJ, the Bishops flatly refuse

Religious Exemptions.

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you google this issue, you will find that the Church's position on

this - at this point - is that you are well within your rights as a

Catholic to refuse to vaccinate your children on ethical grounds so

long as doing so does not threaten the lives of others (proximate

risk). The bishops, at the same time, have the right to refuse

exemptions because (a) these are private schools & ( they are

pastorally responsible for the well-being of all involved not just a

minority.

This is NOT to say that I agree with their decisions, but you have to

remember that they do not have the same perspective as we do and they

have no reason to question what they are told by mainstream medicine.

It is natural that they are going to consider the immediate risk of

viral epidemics to be greater than the many times removed form of

moral cooperation with evil that some of these vax represent.

As a cradle Catholic myself, I would encourage you to write to your

bishop in a charitable way explaining that you would like to support

your local parochial school by enrolling your child, but that you are

unable because to do so would be a sin against the 5th Commandment -

your child's immune system is already damaged and to vaccinate at this

point would be highly risky - you could not possibly gamble with your

child's life in this way. Hopefully, you can find an MD to sign a

letter supporting this as well. Then I'm afraid it's still up to the

bishop for better or worse.

You might consult with a canon lawyer to be certain (Pete Vere is a

well known one with a blog that you might track down via Google), but

the Vatican statement certainly appears to support their position as

solidly as it does your own (http://www.cogforlife.org/vaxexempt.htm)

and a recent case at Duquesne U. would bear that out.

Personally, we have chosen to homeschool our children - these days

it's a much better assurance of a genuinely Catholic education

anyway. We belong to a local Catholic support group that includes a

smaller support group within it for those who have kids with special

needs. My ASD affected son is able to socialize with normal kids of

varying ages who wouldn't dream of making fun of him or bullying him.

I realize that it's not for everyone, especially for those whose

children are very difficult to deal with, but I mention it in case you

are unaware of the option. In your area, you are likely to have

several support groups to choose from including the possibility of co-

ops.

HTH,

Grace

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> Has anyone had any success with a medical exemption to get a child

admitted to Catholic School?? Here in NJ, the Bishops flatly refuse

Religious Exemptions.

>

>

[Guest guest]

sorry to disagree but the law is pretty clear in NJ about religious

exemptions for religious schools. note item (

below (from NJ state website):

8:57-4.4 Religious exemptions

(a) A child shall be exempted from mandatory immunization if the parent or

guardian objects

thereto in a written statement submitted to the school, preschool, or child

care center,

signed by the parent or guardian, explaining how the administration of

immunizing

agents conflicts with the pupil’s exercise of bona fide religious tenets or

practices.

General philosophical or moral objection to immunization shall not be

sufficient for an

exemption on religious grounds.

( Religious affiliated schools or child care centers shall have the

authority to withhold or

grant a religious exemption from the required immunizations for pupils

entering or

attending their institutions without challenge from any secular health

authority.

© This statement will be kept by the school, preschool, or child care

center as part of the

child’s immunization record.

(d) Those children with religious exemptions from receiving immunizing

agents may be

excluded from the school, preschool, or child care center during a

vaccine-preventable

disease outbreak or threatened outbreak as determined by the Commissioner,

Department

of Health and Senior Services or his or her designee.

(e) As provided by N.J.S.A. 26:4-6, " Any body having control of a school

may, on account

of the prevalence of any communicable disease, or to prevent the spread of

communicable diseases, prohibit the attendance of any teacher or pupil of

any school

under their control and specify the time during which the teacher or

scholar shall remain

away from school. " The Department of Health and Senior Services shall

provide

guidance to the school on the appropriateness of any such prohibition. All

schools are

required to comply with the provisions of N.J.A.C. 8:61:1.1 regarding

attendance at

school by pupils or adults infected by Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV).

(f) Those children enrolled in school, preschool, or child care centers

before September 1,

1991, and who have previously been granted a religious exemption, shall not

be required

to reapply for a new religious exemption under 8:57-4.4(a).

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12. Re: Medical Exemption for Catholic School

Posted by: " Jan " paxlforme@... paxlforme

Date: Sun Oct 8, 2006 6:02 pm (PDT)

What the bishop is doing is illegal.

Private schools are subject to state vaccination laws. Ask him why

he condons injecting things made with aborted fetals cells into

babies? There is a letter online somewhere from the pope stating

that this is counterdictory to catholic religion.

I would suggest going to this site and digging around for some

ammunition in your exemption.

http://www.vaclib.org/links/religion.htm

Perhaps the bishop would hear you better if you decided to spend

your money on another religious school. Christian schools can

provide a similar religious education.

You could also contact a lawyer as he is in violation of the law. It

is your right to refuse vaccination.

>

> Has anyone had any success with a medical exemption to get a child

admitted to Catholic School?? Here in NJ, the Bishops flatly refuse

Religious Exemptions.

>

>