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In a message dated 3/8/00 11:28:03 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Pamela1897@... writes:

<< The last interview I had didn't come thru - I didn't get that

job. I do have an interview tomorrow so cross your fingers for me. Thanks

for

letting me ramble on and on - you guys are great. Thanks :)

>>

((((((((Pam)))))))))

I am so sorry about the job! I will keep my fingers crossed for you! Now I

have to tell you something that you don't want to hear. Yes, you are

focusing on the numbers too much. What will being a size 6 do for you that a

size 8 won't do? Really think about that. I know how hard it is not to focus

on the numbers, believe me I do!! I don't know how to stop that behavior, but

I do know that it is a very long process that starts with loving and

accepting yourself. You are 5'7 and 150 lbs? That is my goal! I definitely

think that weight is muscle and that is awesome! You said you don't look like

you weight " that much " which is even more proof that it IS muscle. (Muscle

weights more than fat but takes up less space) I think you should be proud!!

I am so sorry that you are sick and feeling down! Rest and take care of

yourself. As soon as you feel better you can get back into your Tae-Bo. It's

not going anywhere, those tapes will be right there waiting for you to get

better!

Take Care!~

:)

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In a message dated 3/8/00 11:50:08 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Agaw12577@... writes:

<< ccepting yourself. You are 5'7 and 150 lbs? That is my goal! I definitely

think that weight is muscle and that is awesome! You said you don't look

like

you weight " that much " which is even more proof that it IS muscle. (Muscle

weights more than fat but takes up less space) I think you should be proud!!

I am so sorry that you are sick and feeling down! Rest and take care of

yourself. As soon as you feel better you can get back into your Tae-Bo. It's

not going anywhere, those tapes will be right there waiting for you to get

better!

Take Care!~

:)

>>

Hi !! Thanks for your support. I know that I am focusing on the #'s

too much, but I can't seem to help it. My body image is very bad, actually it

always has been. Luckily I never had an eating disorder (I think because I

like to eat too much & hate throwing up) but I always feel fat. When I'm

working out I feel really good but when I'm not I feel horrible. I think my

main problem is the fact that my stomach is big (you can pinch alot at my

waist and I have the stomach pouch thing happening), If I could tone that

part I would feel much better about myself but it seems like it is my most

stubborn part !!! I guess I'll just have to exercise more and cut out the

junk food I love so much, it's the only way to do it. Thank you for your

honestly, your words really do help !!

Pam

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In a message dated 3/8/00 12:16:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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<< Pam ~

Remember muscle weighs more then fat!! Be happy about wearing a size 9!

You are taller so the weight is more evenly distributed!! Keep working out

and know that you are fit and healthy!!

>>

Thanks !! You guys always make me feel better !!

Pam

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In a message dated 3/8/00 12:17:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, dstout5@...

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<< Hi Pam-I too will be keeping my fingers crossed.

I'm in the same boat as you. I'm on round 4 with my sinus infection

and I'm tired of taking antibiotics. :(

Gosh, it sounds like you're doing great, Pam. You're a size 9 at a

150 lbs. I'm the same height as you and I would most likely be a

9/10-11/12 at a 150 lbs. I would also have to suggest not letting the

scale dictate what you should be. Enjoy what you've accomplished. You

have a lot to be proud of.

>>

Hi !! Thank you, I do feel better - I should know better than to get upset

about the scale - I usually don't weigh myself - I'm going to tell the Dr

next time don't let me see what I weigh - it always gets me upset !! I " m

sorry that you are sick too - it is miserable, isn't it? They put me on an

antibiotic called Bactrim, I have to take 2 x a day - I hope it knocks it out

on round 1 !! Hope you feel better soon

Pam

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In a message dated 3/8/00 12:17:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, dstout5@...

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<< Hi Pam-I too will be keeping my fingers crossed.

I'm in the same boat as you. I'm on round 4 with my sinus infection

and I'm tired of taking antibiotics. :(

Gosh, it sounds like you're doing great, Pam. You're a size 9 at a

150 lbs. I'm the same height as you and I would most likely be a

9/10-11/12 at a 150 lbs. I would also have to suggest not letting the

scale dictate what you should be. Enjoy what you've accomplished. You

have a lot to be proud of.

>>

Hi !! Thank you, I do feel better - I should know better than to get upset

about the scale - I usually don't weigh myself - I'm going to tell the Dr

next time don't let me see what I weigh - it always gets me upset !! I " m

sorry that you are sick too - it is miserable, isn't it? They put me on an

antibiotic called Bactrim, I have to take 2 x a day - I hope it knocks it out

on round 1 !! Hope you feel better soon

Pam

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In a message dated 3/8/00 12:21:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

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<< Pam, by the end of your message you seemed to have come to terms with

your weight. I think your goal of a loose size 7 is an improvement

over your goal of 130 pounds. I know how you feel about being

discouraged, but it sounds like there is still room for improvement in

terms of your diet and taebo. I started another 21DC of health eating

last Monday (2/28). It definitely helps keep me on track and I haven't

slipped up yet. Why don't you join me? I can definitely add in

another 9 days, since I too need to be on a permanent healthy eating

schedule (like you, without the 21DC, I started to slip up). I'm sorry

about the last interview. I'll be thinking about you tomorrow.

Elena

>>

Hi ! Elena. I would love to join you on your 21DC - I'll start today. So it

will be a health eating 21 DC and I would like to add Taebo into mine but

just 5 X a week - Mon thru Friday - I don't feel good today so I'll try to

start Taebo tomorrow if I feel up to it. But definetly health eating !! Thank

you I do need this for motivation !! Thanks for the wishes for my interview

tomorrow - hopefully it'll go well !!

Pam

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In a message dated 3/8/00 12:21:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

etcarroll@... writes:

<< Pam, by the end of your message you seemed to have come to terms with

your weight. I think your goal of a loose size 7 is an improvement

over your goal of 130 pounds. I know how you feel about being

discouraged, but it sounds like there is still room for improvement in

terms of your diet and taebo. I started another 21DC of health eating

last Monday (2/28). It definitely helps keep me on track and I haven't

slipped up yet. Why don't you join me? I can definitely add in

another 9 days, since I too need to be on a permanent healthy eating

schedule (like you, without the 21DC, I started to slip up). I'm sorry

about the last interview. I'll be thinking about you tomorrow.

Elena

>>

Hi ! Elena. I would love to join you on your 21DC - I'll start today. So it

will be a health eating 21 DC and I would like to add Taebo into mine but

just 5 X a week - Mon thru Friday - I don't feel good today so I'll try to

start Taebo tomorrow if I feel up to it. But definetly health eating !! Thank

you I do need this for motivation !! Thanks for the wishes for my interview

tomorrow - hopefully it'll go well !!

Pam

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Pam ~

Remember muscle weighs more then fat!! Be happy about wearing a size 9!

You are taller so the weight is more evenly distributed!! Keep working out

and know that you are fit and healthy!!

A little Discouraged

> Hi everyone, I just wanted to vent. I'm a little discouraged today. A

couple

> of things have me discouraged. First of all I have been sick since Friday

so

> I havn't exercised since Friday morning. I miss my Taebo !! Second I went

to

> the Dr's this morning, I have a sinus infection and an ear infection so I

got

> antibiotics, so hopefully I'll feel better soon. The Dr of course weighed

me

> and that is what has me really upset. I weigh 150 lbs. I couldn't believe

> it. I know that we shouldn't concentrate on the # but I can't help it. I

> can't believe that it is muscle that is causing me to weight that much.

> Everyone says that I don't look like I weigh that much so maybe that is

what

> it is but I don't know. I like to weigh 130. I know I shouldn't feel that

way

> but can't help it. I am 5 ft 7 with a medium frame. My clothing size is

> usually a 9. I used to wear a 7 but think I have gained some weight in the

> last 8 months and now I wear a 9. I don't know why I gained in the last 8

> months because I have been doing Taebo, but I havn't been dong it

> consistently for 8 months to be honest. There have been times where I

didn't

> do it for 2 weeks here and there, plus I eat very badly. The only time I

was

> doing really good with eating was during the 21 DC, maybe I should try

that

> again, I had made a pact with myself to do a lifetime 21DC but that hasn't

> worked, so I think I need something shorter to focus on, then just keep

doing

> 1 DC after another. I want to be 130 but I guess what I will concentrate

on

> is getting back into a size 7 and having that be a little loose. That is m

y

> big goal here - I'd really like to wear a 6 but I don't know if that will

> ever happen. The last thing I'm discouraged about is that I havn't found a

> new job yet. The last interview I had didn't come thru - I didn't get that

> job. I do have an interview tomorrow so cross your fingers for me. Thanks

for

> letting me ramble on and on - you guys are great. Thanks :)

>

> Pam

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> As Deb has said: " Fitness is a journey and it begins with the first step. "

> Visit our new vault site http://taeboon.isportsdot.com/

>

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Pam ~

Remember muscle weighs more then fat!! Be happy about wearing a size 9!

You are taller so the weight is more evenly distributed!! Keep working out

and know that you are fit and healthy!!

A little Discouraged

> Hi everyone, I just wanted to vent. I'm a little discouraged today. A

couple

> of things have me discouraged. First of all I have been sick since Friday

so

> I havn't exercised since Friday morning. I miss my Taebo !! Second I went

to

> the Dr's this morning, I have a sinus infection and an ear infection so I

got

> antibiotics, so hopefully I'll feel better soon. The Dr of course weighed

me

> and that is what has me really upset. I weigh 150 lbs. I couldn't believe

> it. I know that we shouldn't concentrate on the # but I can't help it. I

> can't believe that it is muscle that is causing me to weight that much.

> Everyone says that I don't look like I weigh that much so maybe that is

what

> it is but I don't know. I like to weigh 130. I know I shouldn't feel that

way

> but can't help it. I am 5 ft 7 with a medium frame. My clothing size is

> usually a 9. I used to wear a 7 but think I have gained some weight in the

> last 8 months and now I wear a 9. I don't know why I gained in the last 8

> months because I have been doing Taebo, but I havn't been dong it

> consistently for 8 months to be honest. There have been times where I

didn't

> do it for 2 weeks here and there, plus I eat very badly. The only time I

was

> doing really good with eating was during the 21 DC, maybe I should try

that

> again, I had made a pact with myself to do a lifetime 21DC but that hasn't

> worked, so I think I need something shorter to focus on, then just keep

doing

> 1 DC after another. I want to be 130 but I guess what I will concentrate

on

> is getting back into a size 7 and having that be a little loose. That is m

y

> big goal here - I'd really like to wear a 6 but I don't know if that will

> ever happen. The last thing I'm discouraged about is that I havn't found a

> new job yet. The last interview I had didn't come thru - I didn't get that

> job. I do have an interview tomorrow so cross your fingers for me. Thanks

for

> letting me ramble on and on - you guys are great. Thanks :)

>

> Pam

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> As Deb has said: " Fitness is a journey and it begins with the first step. "

> Visit our new vault site http://taeboon.isportsdot.com/

>

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Hi Pam-I too will be keeping my fingers crossed.

I'm in the same boat as you. I'm on round 4 with my sinus infection

and I'm tired of taking antibiotics. :(

Gosh, it sounds like you're doing great, Pam. You're a size 9 at a

150 lbs. I'm the same height as you and I would most likely be a

9/10-11/12 at a 150 lbs. I would also have to suggest not letting the

scale dictate what you should be. Enjoy what you've accomplished. You

have a lot to be proud of.

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> Hi everyone, I just wanted to vent. I'm a little discouraged today. A

couple

> of things have me discouraged. First of all I have been sick since

Friday so

> I havn't exercised since Friday morning. I miss my Taebo !! Second I

went to

> the Dr's this morning, I have a sinus infection and an ear infection

so I got

> antibiotics, so hopefully I'll feel better soon. The Dr of course

weighed me

> and that is what has me really upset. I weigh 150 lbs. I couldn't

believe

> it. I know that we shouldn't concentrate on the # but I can't help

it. I

> can't believe that it is muscle that is causing me to weight that

much.

> Everyone says that I don't look like I weigh that much so maybe that

is what

> it is but I don't know. I like to weigh 130. I know I shouldn't feel

that way

> but can't help it. I am 5 ft 7 with a medium frame. My clothing size

is

> usually a 9. I used to wear a 7 but think I have gained some weight

in the

> last 8 months and now I wear a 9. I don't know why I gained in the

last 8

> months because I have been doing Taebo, but I havn't been dong it

> consistently for 8 months to be honest. There have been times where I

didn't

> do it for 2 weeks here and there, plus I eat very badly. The only

time I was

> doing really good with eating was during the 21 DC, maybe I should

try that

> again, I had made a pact with myself to do a lifetime 21DC but that

hasn't

> worked, so I think I need something shorter to focus on, then just

keep doing

> 1 DC after another. I want to be 130 but I guess what I will

concentrate on

> is getting back into a size 7 and having that be a little loose. That

is my

> big goal here - I'd really like to wear a 6 but I don't know if that

will

> ever happen. The last thing I'm discouraged about is that I havn't

found a

> new job yet. The last interview I had didn't come thru - I didn't get

that

> job. I do have an interview tomorrow so cross your fingers for me.

Thanks for

> letting me ramble on and on - you guys are great. Thanks :)

>

> Pam, by the end of your message you seemed to have come to terms with

your weight. I think your goal of a loose size 7 is an improvement

over your goal of 130 pounds. I know how you feel about being

discouraged, but it sounds like there is still room for improvement in

terms of your diet and taebo. I started another 21DC of health eating

last Monday (2/28). It definitely helps keep me on track and I haven't

slipped up yet. Why don't you join me? I can definitely add in

another 9 days, since I too need to be on a permanent healthy eating

schedule (like you, without the 21DC, I started to slip up). I'm sorry

about the last interview. I'll be thinking about you tomorrow.

Elena

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pamela189-@... wrote:

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> Hi everyone, I just wanted to vent. I'm a little discouraged today. A

couple

> of things have me discouraged. First of all I have been sick since

Friday so

> I havn't exercised since Friday morning. I miss my Taebo !! Second I

went to

> the Dr's this morning, I have a sinus infection and an ear infection

so I got

> antibiotics, so hopefully I'll feel better soon. The Dr of course

weighed me

> and that is what has me really upset. I weigh 150 lbs. I couldn't

believe

> it. I know that we shouldn't concentrate on the # but I can't help

it. I

> can't believe that it is muscle that is causing me to weight that

much.

> Everyone says that I don't look like I weigh that much so maybe that

is what

> it is but I don't know. I like to weigh 130. I know I shouldn't feel

that way

> but can't help it. I am 5 ft 7 with a medium frame. My clothing size

is

> usually a 9. I used to wear a 7 but think I have gained some weight

in the

> last 8 months and now I wear a 9. I don't know why I gained in the

last 8

> months because I have been doing Taebo, but I havn't been dong it

> consistently for 8 months to be honest. There have been times where I

didn't

> do it for 2 weeks here and there, plus I eat very badly. The only

time I was

> doing really good with eating was during the 21 DC, maybe I should

try that

> again, I had made a pact with myself to do a lifetime 21DC but that

hasn't

> worked, so I think I need something shorter to focus on, then just

keep doing

> 1 DC after another. I want to be 130 but I guess what I will

concentrate on

> is getting back into a size 7 and having that be a little loose. That

is my

> big goal here - I'd really like to wear a 6 but I don't know if that

will

> ever happen. The last thing I'm discouraged about is that I havn't

found a

> new job yet. The last interview I had didn't come thru - I didn't get

that

> job. I do have an interview tomorrow so cross your fingers for me.

Thanks for

> letting me ramble on and on - you guys are great. Thanks :)

>

> Pam, by the end of your message you seemed to have come to terms with

your weight. I think your goal of a loose size 7 is an improvement

over your goal of 130 pounds. I know how you feel about being

discouraged, but it sounds like there is still room for improvement in

terms of your diet and taebo. I started another 21DC of health eating

last Monday (2/28). It definitely helps keep me on track and I haven't

slipped up yet. Why don't you join me? I can definitely add in

another 9 days, since I too need to be on a permanent healthy eating

schedule (like you, without the 21DC, I started to slip up). I'm sorry

about the last interview. I'll be thinking about you tomorrow.

Elena

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> In a message dated 3/8/00 11:28:03 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> Pamela1897@... writes:

>

> << The last interview I had didn't come thru - I didn't get that

> job. I do have an interview tomorrow so cross your fingers for me.

Thanks

> for

> letting me ramble on and on - you guys are great. Thanks :)

> >>

> ((((((((Pam)))))))))

> I am so sorry about the job! I will keep my fingers crossed for you!

Now I

> have to tell you something that you don't want to hear. Yes, you are

> focusing on the numbers too much. What will being a size 6 do for you

that a

> size 8 won't do? Really think about that. I know how hard it is not

to focus

> on the numbers, believe me I do!! I don't know how to stop that

behavior, but

> I do know that it is a very long process that starts with loving and

> accepting yourself. You are 5'7 and 150 lbs? That is my goal! I

definitely

> think that weight is muscle and that is awesome! You said you don't

look like

> you weight " that much " which is even more proof that it IS muscle.

(Muscle

> weights more than fat but takes up less space) I think you should be

proud!!

> I am so sorry that you are sick and feeling down! Rest and take care

of

> yourself. As soon as you feel better you can get back into your

Tae-Bo. It's

> not going anywhere, those tapes will be right there waiting for you

to get

> better!

> Take Care!~

> :)

On second thought, I agree with , Pam. It certainly wouldn't

hurt to get back to healthy eating and to taebo regularly, but do it

for your health and for the inside results, not for the dress size.

You'll be a lot happier with yourself because then your happiness won't

be dependent on things that you really can't control (like weight and

dress size), but on your hard work, something you can be proud of.

Elena

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In a message dated 3/8/00 4:47:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, slowens@...

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<<

who knows it takes a long time to get that focus away from the

scale...but you gotta keep trying to find other measures of success,

until one day you wake up and realize you don't need the dang thing :)

>>

Thank you so much !! I know that you are right. You really should

write a book, you are a great motivator !! And Congratulations on your

compliments !!

Pam

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Pam,

What's so magical about the Size Six and the weight of 130 pounds?

They are just numbers. Size 9 at 5'7 " sounds great to me! Take a look

in the mirror...what do you see?

Try focusing on making two healthy food changes from what you normally

do each day...such as drink water instead of Coke. Eat a whole grain

instead of white bread. Stuff along those lines. Make gradual

changes.

I know this can be hard...we tend to distort our views of ourselves.

But give these (or your own modification...whatever will work for you)

a try.

If you can't handle the scale thing, step on it backwards at the doc's

office and be emphatic you don't want to know the cursed number.

;-)

pamela189-@... wrote:

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> Hi everyone, I just wanted to vent. I'm a little discouraged today. A

couple

> of things have me discouraged. First of all I have been sick since

Friday so

> I havn't exercised since Friday morning. I miss my Taebo !! Second I

went to

> the Dr's this morning, I have a sinus infection and an ear infection

so I got

> antibiotics, so hopefully I'll feel better soon. The Dr of course

weighed me

> and that is what has me really upset. I weigh 150 lbs. I couldn't

believe

> it. I know that we shouldn't concentrate on the # but I can't help

it. I

> can't believe that it is muscle that is causing me to weight that

much.

> Everyone says that I don't look like I weigh that much so maybe that

is what

> it is but I don't know. I like to weigh 130. I know I shouldn't feel

that way

> but can't help it. I am 5 ft 7 with a medium frame. My clothing size

is

> usually a 9. I used to wear a 7 but think I have gained some weight

in the

> last 8 months and now I wear a 9. I don't know why I gained in the

last 8

> months because I have been doing Taebo, but I havn't been dong it

> consistently for 8 months to be honest. There have been times where I

didn't

> do it for 2 weeks here and there, plus I eat very badly. The only

time I was

> doing really good with eating was during the 21 DC, maybe I should

try that

> again, I had made a pact with myself to do a lifetime 21DC but that

hasn't

> worked, so I think I need something shorter to focus on, then just

keep doing

> 1 DC after another. I want to be 130 but I guess what I will

concentrate on

> is getting back into a size 7 and having that be a little loose. That

is my

> big goal here - I'd really like to wear a 6 but I don't know if that

will

> ever happen. The last thing I'm discouraged about is that I havn't

found a

> new job yet. The last interview I had didn't come thru - I didn't get

that

> job. I do have an interview tomorrow so cross your fingers for me.

Thanks for

> letting me ramble on and on - you guys are great. Thanks :)

>

> Pam

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  • 3 years later...

It's the pamper issue... I'd rather buy handmade salts and other goodies to

pamper myself than the cheap stuff because I know it's made with natural and

quality good stuff :)

Cheers!

Amy K

www.torchbynight.com

A little discouraged

I am a candle maker and have just gotten into the B & B stuff.

Currently I make M & P and have made some cute soaps. I was thinking

of making bath salts but I was just in Wal-Mart and saw a HUGE

container of it for less than $3.00. I got to thinking, why would

someone buy this from me when they can get it real cheap? I alway

check out the candles wherever I go and I know I can make them

better and ones that smell better. And my customers know this as

well and don't mind paying more than dollar store prices. But how

do you get people to buy " YOUR " products when they think they can

get them cheaper at the store down the street?

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For the same reason as people buy your candles they will buy

your salts. They will know that most bath salts they buy from the

local Wal-Mart are of lower quality than what you sell....and how

will they know YOU WILL TELL THEM. You don't have to bash

the Wal-Mart brand but you can answer questions, give handouts

on your products that people can read. Explain that when they

want bath salts they should make sure the ingredients state

" Sea Salt " and not " Sodium Chloride " which is plain table salt.

Sodium Chloride will give no real benefits from what I have read.

You can use natural colors which people like, and essential oils

instead of fragrance oils so that people can get a aromatherapy

benefit as well.

Explain all this to them, and they will buy and keep buying.

Because what you are selling them is better than the rest.

Research all your products this way to explain to your customers

why you add each ingredient you add. What it does for them and

the benefits of that ingredient.

I don't sell what I make, I give it all away to friends. BUT I just

love when somebody says " why did you add this, or what is this

for " . It keeps me on my toes, and keeps me learning and

retaining the information I read about.

-Trin

> I am a candle maker and have just gotten into the B & B stuff.

> Currently I make M & P and have made some cute soaps. I was

> thinking of making bath salts but I was just in Wal-Mart and

> saw a HUGE container of it for less than $3.00. I got to

> thinking, why would someone buy this from me when they can

> get it real cheap? I alway check out the candles wherever I go

> and I know I can make them better and ones that smell better.

> And my customers know this as well and don't mind paying

> more than dollar store prices. But how do you get people to

> buy " YOUR " products when they think they can

> get them cheaper at the store down the street?

>

>

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Sodium chloride is also the INCI name for dendritic salt (at least in Europe)

which many people

use in bath salts to help retain the fragrance of EO or FO.

Tricia

Explain that when they want bath salts they should make sure the

ingredients state " Sea Salt " and not " Sodium Chloride " which is

plain table salt.

Sodium Chloride will give no real benefits from what I have read.

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julia, i do not say much. i have been here for awhile.

what i will say to you, i would much rather buy a product that i know

what's in it. who knows what the vendor has stretched their product

with to make it cheaper for walmart. from personal experience,

walmart, though we as customers love them for their prices, are

extremely brutal to their vendors. downright criminal sometimes..

your bath salts are made with pure stuff. they are put together with

great care, and in a cleaner environment that anything you can buy in

the store. a good place to read about manufacturers and their

practices, is consumer reports. you need a very strong stomach

sometimes. your products are natural and there are no strange

additives.. and i am sure you can say that your products have not had

rats or mice running all over them when everyone goes home, and the

lights go out. hopefully you haven't handled them with a runny

nose..or poopy hands,etc. need i say more? lol.

so be not discouraged! make the products you are proud of, and been

given the inspiration to make!!! fear squahses creativity..

anne

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I have seen the salts there, and I have to say that I have used them. I use

them to see what they are like and well I don't see much there.

They use very little sea salt (well the ones I have seen) and then like some

one else said table salt lol

I use a mixture of three different salt E/o and F/o either or and all

natural colorants.

When I let my customers know this they have no problem with buying my salts

and come back for more.

I hope this helps.

www.serenity-garden.org

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,

Don't be descouraged. Its getting close to christmas an alot of

things are coming out nice and cheep, Im sure alot of people are

going to get a big jar of salt from wallmart, Then again alot of

people will get their salts from the body shop. If getting things

cheeper was all that people cared about, Sears and macys would be

out of business but they still manage to boom. You offer what

other companys can't and or don't PERSONAL TOUCH!! and QUALITY.

Your customers know that from your candle products. Chances are if

they enjoy bathsalts or wish to gift someone with them. Yours will

be prefered over a walmart brand hands down.

www.smeils.com/infocenter

>

>

> > I am a candle maker and have just gotten into the B & B stuff.

> > Currently I make M & P and have made some cute soaps. I was

> > thinking of making bath salts but I was just in Wal-Mart and

> > saw a HUGE container of it for less than $3.00. I got to

> > thinking, why would someone buy this from me when they can

> > get it real cheap? I alway check out the candles wherever I go

> > and I know I can make them better and ones that smell better.

> > And my customers know this as well and don't mind paying

> > more than dollar store prices. But how do you get people to

> > buy " YOUR " products when they think they can

> > get them cheaper at the store down the street?

> >

> >

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Just like you won't sell a candle to the person who only buys the

cheapest, you won't sell them bath salts, either.

You need to figure out who YOUR customers are. The ones who appreciate

quality items with a personal touch and lovely fragrances, and who are

willing to pay for it.

There are all different niche layers and you just have to identify

where you fit in. You're not Wal-Mart, but neither are you Lancome.

Figure out where in the middle you want to be, and then make products

for THAT customer.

JMHO

Heidi

--- jwahlton <burnthis@...> wrote:

> I am a candle maker and have just gotten into the

> B & B stuff.

> Currently I make M & P and have made some cute soaps.

> I was thinking

> of making bath salts but I was just in Wal-Mart and

> saw a HUGE

> container of it for less than $3.00. I got to

> thinking, why would

> someone buy this from me when they can get it real

> cheap? I alway

> check out the candles wherever I go and I know I can

> make them

> better and ones that smell better. And my customers

> know this as

> well and don't mind paying more than dollar store

> prices. But how

> do you get people to buy " YOUR " products when they

> think they can

> get them cheaper at the store down the street?

>

>

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thanks lizette for your kind words. i will tell you that dr phil said

those words. christopher lowell also uses . 'with fear there is no

creativity.' i try to remember these words when i get a little

fearful and insecure, providing i am not having a senior moment!!!

anne s

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Kathy,

I wouldn't consider this a true challenge = results just because of

recent viral illness. The new food may have had some part but it just

isn't clear. Another thing to keep in mind that if he was been

wanting the cereal (or hearing you say no to it for awhile), just

having a new food can be stimulating emotionally. Positive change is

still change. Wait until he is clearly over the cold or whatever it

is. Then pick a non-swimming lesson day and challenge with the food.

That will give you a better idea if it is just food or not. And if it

doesn't work out after 3-4 challenges, then you probably need to wait

on that food.

With carb foods, try to make sure that he gets some source of protein

with it just to guard against any hypoglycemic reaction. For example,

if my son were eating eggs for breakfast and then I gave him just

plain cheerios one morning with no protein, he could have a drop in

blood sugar mid-morning resulting in a headache and fussiness, which

would have happened whether the carb was cheerios, rice bread, or

plain fruit.

.

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Hi Kathy, my son is able to eat many more foods with the AFP

Peptizyde and NoFenol but if he has artificial colors/preservatives

he often has extreme meltdowns, aggression, crying jags and

headaches. I've never narrowed down which additives cause the most

damage, there often seems to be a cumulative effect but other times

just one exposure causes major problems. So you might try

a " natural " brand of cheerios without preservatives, I know there is

one at Whole Foods Market that NT daughter loves. --Lynne

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