Guest guest Posted October 28, 2006 Report Share Posted October 28, 2006 I have a question about my son's speech. He will say 'red stop, green go'. It sounds like red dop, deen go. I wonder why if he can make the " r " sound in red, why he can't use it in green. Or why he can say the hard g in go, but not in green. He can say mommy, but doesn't say milk, say's ilk. He can make the s sound, like in sally but doesn't say stop, says dop. My question is, does this indicate apraxia? Or is this normal learning of speech, where it takes time to learn the blends of the sounds, and different combinations of vowels and consenants. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Hi : Has your son been diagnosed with apraxia? Have you looked up the symptoms of apraxia? Neuro soft signs of apraxia? The link below I found very helpful when I was researching apraxia. http://www.tayloredmktg.com/dyspraxia/das.shtml#what Tina > > I have a question about my son's speech. He will say 'red stop, green go'. > It sounds like red dop, deen go. I wonder why if he can make the " r " sound > in red, why he can't use it in green. Or why he can say the hard g in go, > but not in green. He can say mommy, but doesn't say milk, say's ilk. He can > make the s sound, like in sally but doesn't say stop, says dop. > My question is, does this indicate apraxia? Or is this normal learning of > speech, where it takes time to learn the blends of the sounds, and different > combinations of vowels and consenants. > thanks > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 I dont think the answer is a simple one. I would say to you, it sounds like apraxia. However, how old is your son? If he is very young, 18 mths-2 years old, its possible its developmental. Is he 4, or 5? then it sounds like apraxia. My daughter is almost 5 1/2, and still struggles with stop, go, red, and green. Unless she is really focusing on the correct pronouciation/articulation. As far as apraxia. Keep in mind its motor planning, the more complex the word, the harder to motor plan, the more difficulty he/she will have. Even in a simple (to you and me) word as green, or milk. Apraxics have substitutions or add-in letters. Example my daughter wants to say snow, but its sounds like sa-no. S'mores was sa'mores. She seems to add vowels after S. But also has letter deletion(s) Please is Pease. I completely understand your frustrations. Sorry I couldnt give you a more direct and short answer to your question. I would also say, keep it simple for yourself. Just call it apraxia for all of it. Dawn in NJ -- In , LiisaAnn@... wrote: > > I have a question about my son's speech. He will say 'red stop, green go'. > It sounds like red dop, deen go. I wonder why if he can make the " r " sound > in red, why he can't use it in green. Or why he can say the hard g in go, > but not in green. He can say mommy, but doesn't say milk, say's ilk. He can > make the s sound, like in sally but doesn't say stop, says dop. > My question is, does this indicate apraxia? Or is this normal learning of > speech, where it takes time to learn the blends of the sounds, and different > combinations of vowels and consenants. > thanks > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 When a word has two consonant sounds together (a consonant cluster like st or gr) this makes the sound combinations of the word more complicated. The word stop for example would be harder to say than the word top. Developmentally, children acquire clusters a little later than individual sounds. For sound development, the age of the child is important as well as the patterns of errors produced, the frequency of errors and more. Also, if the child has a sound that is emerging (have just begun to use it), they may not always use it correctly in every position of the word or in every word. If you are concerned, having the child screened by a speech pathologist would be appropriate. Katina > > I have a question about my son's speech. He will say 'red stop, green go'. > It sounds like red dop, deen go. I wonder why if he can make the " r " sound > in red, why he can't use it in green. Or why he can say the hard g in go, > but not in green. He can say mommy, but doesn't say milk, say's ilk. He can > make the s sound, like in sally but doesn't say stop, says dop. > My question is, does this indicate apraxia? Or is this normal learning of > speech, where it takes time to learn the blends of the sounds, and different > combinations of vowels and consenants. > thanks > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Hi Beth, My son is almost strictly verbal apraxia. He does seem to be a bit clumsy, but nothing that would raise a flag. His SLP had an OT look at him in case we were missing something, and he did notice deficits w/ other motor skills (I haven't received his full report, but they mentioned that he doesn't draw lines as straight as he should??). Anything OT-related would be very secondary to his verbal apraxia, which is severe. His SLP did tell me that all of that " motor planning " does occur in the same area of the brain. I am currently reading " The Parent's Guide to Speech and Language Problems. " I recall it stating that the oral apraxia is actually not real common with the verbal apraxia. Like your son, my son doesn't have sensory issues (well, flip-flops--but how common is that?) and he has excellent receptive and cognitive skills. Hope this helps?? [ ] Apraxia question I have a quick question for the parents on here with Apraxic children. The children that were dx with Apraxia, do they have/had other issues at the time of the diagnosis? My son's sp seems to be heading down the road of thinking he has Apraxia, but he does not seem to show signs of any of the other conditions associated with it. He doesn't appear to have oral apraxia (no issues with feeding, he seems to have decent control over his tongue, etc.) and I read that alot of Apraxic children have sensory issues, which my son doesn't seem to have (a few things here and there, but nothing severe ~ for ex. he doesn't like to have sand on his hands, but he will touch it, and has no other sensory issues with textures). Anyway, so I read that children with Apraxia usually have other issues/conditions. So, I am wondering for the parents on here... does that hold true in your case? Or, are there parents on here that have children that " just " have verbal apraxia. TIA, Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 i am new here as well, and have been asking alot of questions lately. my son has verbal apraxia, and some sensory regulation issues. he is relatively social, but i feel like the sensory piece is starting to hold him back a little. he is extremely coordinated, i would say advanced for his age. he has some pronation in his feet, but is not low tone overall. we are going to see a developmental pediatrican, just to help us piece it all together. supposedly there are some soft neurological signs associated with apraxia which maybe we do not notice. maybe you shoudl seek out a developmental pediatrician in your area to take a whole look at your son and make sure you are not missing anything good luck pam On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Beth <bboivin@...> wrote: > I have a quick question for the parents on here with Apraxic children. > The children that were dx with Apraxia, do they have/had other issues > at the time of the diagnosis? My son's sp seems to be heading down the > road of thinking he has Apraxia, but he does not seem to show signs of > any of the other conditions associated with it. He doesn't appear to > have oral apraxia (no issues with feeding, he seems to have decent > control over his tongue, etc.) and I read that alot of Apraxic children > have sensory issues, which my son doesn't seem to have (a few things > here and there, but nothing severe ~ for ex. he doesn't like to have > sand on his hands, but he will touch it, and has no other sensory > issues with textures). > > Anyway, so I read that children with Apraxia usually have other > issues/conditions. So, I am wondering for the parents on here... does > that hold true in your case? Or, are there parents on here that have > children that " just " have verbal apraxia. > > TIA, > > Beth > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 my son rocco has apraxia/dyspraxia. he also does not like to be dirty. he will get dirty and then want to be wiped off as well. he had oral motor issues but could be related to his being tongue tied and having it clipped @ 15 mo. he does have a sensitivity to bright light (sun) wich i have been told is a sign.no other issues though -darcy -------------- Original message -------------- From: " Beth " <bboivin@...> I have a quick question for the parents on here with Apraxic children. The children that were dx with Apraxia, do they have/had other issues at the time of the diagnosis? My son's sp seems to be heading down the road of thinking he has Apraxia, but he does not seem to show signs of any of the other conditions associated with it. He doesn't appear to have oral apraxia (no issues with feeding, he seems to have decent control over his tongue, etc.) and I read that alot of Apraxic children have sensory issues, which my son doesn't seem to have (a few things here and there, but nothing severe ~ for ex. he doesn't like to have sand on his hands, but he will touch it, and has no other sensory issues with textures). Anyway, so I read that children with Apraxia usually have other issues/conditions. So, I am wondering for the parents on here... does that hold true in your case? Or, are there parents on here that have children that " just " have verbal apraxia. TIA, Beth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Beth, This sounds like my son as well. My son is only 21 months old, and we are just beginning speech therapy with EI. His sp seems to think he has apraxia No official diagnosis, but she has told me both times we have met that this is what she suspects. Dawson has no words at all, not even babble. At about 14 or 15 months he had said " Mama, Dada, and Doggie " Only one word at a time. Once he learned a new word, the old word was lost. Now he has no words. He can pucker and stick out his tongue, we have been working with him on that. He is extremely outgoing and social, loves to bat his eyes and smile at people. And his receptive is wonderful. He communicates by taking me by the hand and dragging me places and pointing. (We are working on sign he knows drink and more) His sp pointed out that he never opens his mouth when he does make sounds. He only opens his mouth when he laughs. For those of you with experience and knowledge of apraxia, any thoughts? TIA, Simona PS We are only doing 1 hr sessions once a week, is this enough? -- Re: [ ] Apraxia question My son doesn't have sensory stuff, just minor flukes, but nothing that interferes with life, and has only mild dyspraxia in his fingers which isn't a problem anymore. He had mild oral apraxia which wasn't noticed initially. He couldn't touch the back of his front teeth with his tongue, couldn't drink from a cup until age 3 and not properly until after age 6, but he could drink from a straw no problem. He couldn't pucker to kiss until after age 3, same with blowing out candles. But he's been the best nurser of my three kids (he's child #2 and I work as a breastfeeding counselor so I notice minor latch weirdness) and he always chewed and swallowed normally, although he tends to overstuff his mouth. His muscle tone is fine, not low or high, etc. He also has language issues which I believe is something separate from the apraxia. Miche On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Beth <bboivin@...> wrote: > I have a quick question for the parents on here with Apraxic children. > The children that were dx with Apraxia, do they have/had other issues > at the time of the diagnosis? My son's sp seems to be heading down the > road of thinking he has Apraxia, but he does not seem to show signs of > any of the other conditions associated with it. He doesn't appear to > have oral apraxia (no issues with feeding, he seems to have decent > control over his tongue, etc.) and I read that alot of Apraxic children > have sensory issues, which my son doesn't seem to have (a few things > here and there, but nothing severe ~ for ex. he doesn't like to have > sand on his hands, but he will touch it, and has no other sensory > issues with textures). > > Anyway, so I read that children with Apraxia usually have other > issues/conditions. So, I am wondering for the parents on here... does > that hold true in your case? Or, are there parents on here that have > children that " just " have verbal apraxia. > > TIA, > > Beth > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 i have been told and experienced extreme sensitivity to bright light (sun) oral motor/ lack of awareness of tongue, lips,etc. is it oral, verbal apraxia or apraxia somewhere else??could it have anything to do with the transition from one language to another at that age? dont take that the wrong way, my aunt experienced a severe delay in speech with a babysitting situation where the sitter only spoke polish and she spoke polish/english-darcy --------- [ ] Apraxia question > > > I have a quick question for the parents on here with Apraxic children. > The children that were dx with Apraxia, do they have/had other issues > at the time of the diagnosis? My son's sp seems to be heading down the > road of thinking he has Apraxia, but he does not seem to show signs of > any of the other conditions associated with it. He doesn't appear to > have oral apraxia (no issues with feeding, he seems to have decent > control over his tongue, etc.) and I read that alot of Apraxic children > have sensory issues, which my son doesn't seem to have (a few things > here and there, but nothing severe ~ for ex. he doesn't like to have > sand on his hands, but he will touch it, and has no other sensory > issues with textures). > > Anyway, so I read that children with Apraxia usually have other > issues/conditions. So, I am wondering for the parents on here... does > that hold true in your case? Or, are there parents on here that have > children that " just " have verbal apraxia. > > TIA, > > Beth > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 For an Apraxic child? No-- I don't believe so at all. I would try to get at LEAST 2 sessions during the week, if they are an hour each becky In a message dated 5/14/2008 9:43:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Phil4-13@... writes: PS We are only doing 1 hr sessions once a week, is this enough? **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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