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I have a question about my son's speech. He will say 'red stop, green go'.

It sounds like red dop, deen go. I wonder why if he can make the " r " sound

in red, why he can't use it in green. Or why he can say the hard g in go,

but not in green. He can say mommy, but doesn't say milk, say's ilk. He can

make the s sound, like in sally but doesn't say stop, says dop.

My question is, does this indicate apraxia? Or is this normal learning of

speech, where it takes time to learn the blends of the sounds, and different

combinations of vowels and consenants.

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Hi :

Has your son been diagnosed with apraxia? Have you looked up the

symptoms of apraxia? Neuro soft signs of apraxia? The link below I

found very helpful when I was researching apraxia.

http://www.tayloredmktg.com/dyspraxia/das.shtml#what

Tina

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> I have a question about my son's speech. He will say 'red stop,

green go'.

> It sounds like red dop, deen go. I wonder why if he can make

the " r " sound

> in red, why he can't use it in green. Or why he can say the hard

g in go,

> but not in green. He can say mommy, but doesn't say milk, say's

ilk. He can

> make the s sound, like in sally but doesn't say stop, says dop.

> My question is, does this indicate apraxia? Or is this normal

learning of

> speech, where it takes time to learn the blends of the sounds,

and different

> combinations of vowels and consenants.

> thanks

>

>

>

>

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I dont think the answer is a simple one. I would say to you, it

sounds like apraxia. However, how old is your son? If he is very

young, 18 mths-2 years old, its possible its developmental.

Is he 4, or 5? then it sounds like apraxia.

My daughter is almost 5 1/2, and still struggles with stop, go, red,

and green. Unless she is really focusing on the correct

pronouciation/articulation.

As far as apraxia. Keep in mind its motor planning, the more complex

the word, the harder to motor plan, the more difficulty he/she will

have. Even in a simple (to you and me) word as green, or milk.

Apraxics have substitutions or add-in letters. Example my daughter

wants to say snow, but its sounds like sa-no. S'mores was sa'mores.

She seems to add vowels after S. But also has letter deletion(s)

Please is Pease. I completely understand your frustrations.

Sorry I couldnt give you a more direct and short answer to your

question. I would also say, keep it simple for yourself. Just call it

apraxia for all of it.

Dawn in NJ

-- In , LiisaAnn@... wrote:

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> I have a question about my son's speech. He will say 'red stop,

green go'.

> It sounds like red dop, deen go. I wonder why if he can make

the " r " sound

> in red, why he can't use it in green. Or why he can say the hard

g in go,

> but not in green. He can say mommy, but doesn't say milk, say's

ilk. He can

> make the s sound, like in sally but doesn't say stop, says dop.

> My question is, does this indicate apraxia? Or is this normal

learning of

> speech, where it takes time to learn the blends of the sounds, and

different

> combinations of vowels and consenants.

> thanks

>

>

>

>

>

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When a word has two consonant sounds together (a consonant cluster

like st or gr) this makes the sound combinations of the word more

complicated. The word stop for example would be harder to say than

the word top. Developmentally, children acquire clusters a little

later than individual sounds.

For sound development, the age of the child is important as well as

the patterns of errors produced, the frequency of errors and more.

Also, if the child has a sound that is emerging (have just begun to

use it), they may not always use it correctly in every position of

the word or in every word. If you are concerned, having the child

screened by a speech pathologist would be appropriate.

Katina

>

> I have a question about my son's speech. He will say 'red stop,

green go'.

> It sounds like red dop, deen go. I wonder why if he can make

the " r " sound

> in red, why he can't use it in green. Or why he can say the hard

g in go,

> but not in green. He can say mommy, but doesn't say milk, say's

ilk. He can

> make the s sound, like in sally but doesn't say stop, says dop.

> My question is, does this indicate apraxia? Or is this normal

learning of

> speech, where it takes time to learn the blends of the sounds,

and different

> combinations of vowels and consenants.

> thanks

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Beth,

My son is almost strictly verbal apraxia. He does seem to be a bit clumsy, but

nothing that would raise a flag. His SLP had an OT look at him in case we were

missing something, and he did notice deficits w/ other motor skills (I haven't

received his full report, but they mentioned that he doesn't draw lines as

straight as he should??). Anything OT-related would be very secondary to his

verbal apraxia, which is severe. His SLP did tell me that all of that " motor

planning " does occur in the same area of the brain.

I am currently reading " The Parent's Guide to Speech and Language Problems. " I

recall it stating that the oral apraxia is actually not real common with the

verbal apraxia. Like your son, my son doesn't have sensory issues (well,

flip-flops--but how common is that?) and he has excellent receptive and

cognitive skills.

Hope this helps??

[ ] Apraxia question

I have a quick question for the parents on here with Apraxic children.

The children that were dx with Apraxia, do they have/had other issues

at the time of the diagnosis? My son's sp seems to be heading down the

road of thinking he has Apraxia, but he does not seem to show signs of

any of the other conditions associated with it. He doesn't appear to

have oral apraxia (no issues with feeding, he seems to have decent

control over his tongue, etc.) and I read that alot of Apraxic children

have sensory issues, which my son doesn't seem to have (a few things

here and there, but nothing severe ~ for ex. he doesn't like to have

sand on his hands, but he will touch it, and has no other sensory

issues with textures).

Anyway, so I read that children with Apraxia usually have other

issues/conditions. So, I am wondering for the parents on here... does

that hold true in your case? Or, are there parents on here that have

children that " just " have verbal apraxia.

TIA,

Beth

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i am new here as well, and have been asking alot of questions lately.

my son has verbal apraxia, and some sensory regulation issues. he is

relatively social, but i feel like the sensory piece is starting to hold him

back a little. he is extremely coordinated, i would say advanced for his

age. he has some pronation in his feet, but is not low tone overall.

we are going to see a developmental pediatrican, just to help us piece it

all together. supposedly there are some soft neurological signs associated

with apraxia which maybe we do not notice. maybe you shoudl seek out a

developmental pediatrician in your area to take a whole look at your son and

make sure you are not missing anything

good luck

pam

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Beth <bboivin@...> wrote:

> I have a quick question for the parents on here with Apraxic children.

> The children that were dx with Apraxia, do they have/had other issues

> at the time of the diagnosis? My son's sp seems to be heading down the

> road of thinking he has Apraxia, but he does not seem to show signs of

> any of the other conditions associated with it. He doesn't appear to

> have oral apraxia (no issues with feeding, he seems to have decent

> control over his tongue, etc.) and I read that alot of Apraxic children

> have sensory issues, which my son doesn't seem to have (a few things

> here and there, but nothing severe ~ for ex. he doesn't like to have

> sand on his hands, but he will touch it, and has no other sensory

> issues with textures).

>

> Anyway, so I read that children with Apraxia usually have other

> issues/conditions. So, I am wondering for the parents on here... does

> that hold true in your case? Or, are there parents on here that have

> children that " just " have verbal apraxia.

>

> TIA,

>

> Beth

>

>

>

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my son rocco has apraxia/dyspraxia. he also does not like to be dirty. he will

get dirty and then want to be wiped off as well. he had oral motor issues but

could be related to his being tongue tied and having it clipped @ 15 mo. he

does have a sensitivity to bright light (sun) wich i have been told is a sign.no

other issues though -darcy

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From: " Beth " <bboivin@...>

I have a quick question for the parents on here with Apraxic children.

The children that were dx with Apraxia, do they have/had other issues

at the time of the diagnosis? My son's sp seems to be heading down the

road of thinking he has Apraxia, but he does not seem to show signs of

any of the other conditions associated with it. He doesn't appear to

have oral apraxia (no issues with feeding, he seems to have decent

control over his tongue, etc.) and I read that alot of Apraxic children

have sensory issues, which my son doesn't seem to have (a few things

here and there, but nothing severe ~ for ex. he doesn't like to have

sand on his hands, but he will touch it, and has no other sensory

issues with textures).

Anyway, so I read that children with Apraxia usually have other

issues/conditions. So, I am wondering for the parents on here... does

that hold true in your case? Or, are there parents on here that have

children that " just " have verbal apraxia.

TIA,

Beth

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Beth,

This sounds like my son as well. My son is only 21 months old, and we are

just beginning speech therapy with EI. His sp seems to think he has apraxia

No official diagnosis, but she has told me both times we have met that

this is what she suspects. Dawson has no words at all, not even babble. At

about 14 or 15 months he had said " Mama, Dada, and Doggie " Only one word at

a time. Once he learned a new word, the old word was lost. Now he has no

words. He can pucker and stick out his tongue, we have been working with

him on that. He is extremely outgoing and social, loves to bat his eyes and

smile at people. And his receptive is wonderful. He communicates by taking

me by the hand and dragging me places and pointing. (We are working on sign

he knows drink and more)

His sp pointed out that he never opens his mouth when he does make sounds.

He only opens his mouth when he laughs.

For those of you with experience and knowledge of apraxia, any thoughts?

TIA,

Simona

PS We are only doing 1 hr sessions once a week, is this enough?

-- Re: [ ] Apraxia question

My son doesn't have sensory stuff, just minor flukes, but nothing that

interferes with life, and has only mild dyspraxia in his fingers which isn't

a problem anymore. He had mild oral apraxia which wasn't noticed initially.

He couldn't touch the back of his front teeth with his tongue, couldn't

drink from a cup until age 3 and not properly until after age 6, but he

could drink from a straw no problem. He couldn't pucker to kiss until after

age 3, same with blowing out candles. But he's been the best nurser of my

three kids (he's child #2 and I work as a breastfeeding counselor so I

notice minor latch weirdness) and he always chewed and swallowed normally,

although he tends to overstuff his mouth. His muscle tone is fine, not low

or high, etc. He also has language issues which I believe is something

separate from the apraxia.

Miche

On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:58 AM, Beth <bboivin@...> wrote:

> I have a quick question for the parents on here with Apraxic children.

> The children that were dx with Apraxia, do they have/had other issues

> at the time of the diagnosis? My son's sp seems to be heading down the

> road of thinking he has Apraxia, but he does not seem to show signs of

> any of the other conditions associated with it. He doesn't appear to

> have oral apraxia (no issues with feeding, he seems to have decent

> control over his tongue, etc.) and I read that alot of Apraxic children

> have sensory issues, which my son doesn't seem to have (a few things

> here and there, but nothing severe ~ for ex. he doesn't like to have

> sand on his hands, but he will touch it, and has no other sensory

> issues with textures).

>

> Anyway, so I read that children with Apraxia usually have other

> issues/conditions. So, I am wondering for the parents on here... does

> that hold true in your case? Or, are there parents on here that have

> children that " just " have verbal apraxia.

>

> TIA,

>

> Beth

>

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i have been told and experienced extreme sensitivity to bright light (sun) oral

motor/ lack of awareness of tongue, lips,etc. is it oral, verbal apraxia or

apraxia somewhere else??could it have anything to do with the transition from

one language to another at that age? dont take that the wrong way, my aunt

experienced a severe delay in speech with a babysitting situation where the

sitter only spoke polish and she spoke polish/english-darcy

--------- [ ] Apraxia question

>

>

> I have a quick question for the parents on here with Apraxic

children.

> The children that were dx with Apraxia, do they have/had other

issues

> at the time of the diagnosis? My son's sp seems to be heading

down the

> road of thinking he has Apraxia, but he does not seem to show

signs of

> any of the other conditions associated with it. He doesn't

appear to

> have oral apraxia (no issues with feeding, he seems to have

decent

> control over his tongue, etc.) and I read that alot of Apraxic

children

> have sensory issues, which my son doesn't seem to have (a few

things

> here and there, but nothing severe ~ for ex. he doesn't like to

have

> sand on his hands, but he will touch it, and has no other

sensory

> issues with textures).

>

> Anyway, so I read that children with Apraxia usually have other

> issues/conditions. So, I am wondering for the parents on here...

does

> that hold true in your case? Or, are there parents on here that

have

> children that " just " have verbal apraxia.

>

> TIA,

>

> Beth

>

>

>

>

>

>

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For an Apraxic child? No-- I don't believe so at all. I would try to get

at LEAST 2 sessions during the week, if they are an hour each

becky

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