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> I thought of suggesting that...but I wonder if Lou wouldn't use

that as an

> excuse to himself to behave more abominably?

She's being abused. Mentally. He has no right to do that to her.

She can get a restraining order and make arrangements for him to see

the children with a drop off point. She would never have to deal

with him. And if he don't like it and decides to try to use the kids

against her, the courts could eliminate his visitation completely.

And he'd still have to pay child support.

This has happened with a person I know. It makes me furious to see

he still tries to manipulate her. I feel abused all over again, even

if it's her it's happening to.

THOSE HEAD GAMES AUGH!

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> I thought of suggesting that...but I wonder if Lou wouldn't use

that as an

> excuse to himself to behave more abominably?

She's being abused. Mentally. He has no right to do that to her.

She can get a restraining order and make arrangements for him to see

the children with a drop off point. She would never have to deal

with him. And if he don't like it and decides to try to use the kids

against her, the courts could eliminate his visitation completely.

And he'd still have to pay child support.

This has happened with a person I know. It makes me furious to see

he still tries to manipulate her. I feel abused all over again, even

if it's her it's happening to.

THOSE HEAD GAMES AUGH!

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> I thought of suggesting that...but I wonder if Lou wouldn't use

that as an

> excuse to himself to behave more abominably?

She's being abused. Mentally. He has no right to do that to her.

She can get a restraining order and make arrangements for him to see

the children with a drop off point. She would never have to deal

with him. And if he don't like it and decides to try to use the kids

against her, the courts could eliminate his visitation completely.

And he'd still have to pay child support.

This has happened with a person I know. It makes me furious to see

he still tries to manipulate her. I feel abused all over again, even

if it's her it's happening to.

THOSE HEAD GAMES AUGH!

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Salli. I am so sorry. That is awful. And it won't end. He obviously has

an agenda. And it's not in your favor. I hope and pray that your lawyer is

able to do something to stop him.

Tamara

mom to Ebony, 5 years old, asd, adhd, bipolar

and , 2, polish (lol)

wife to Terry

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>Reply-To: parenting_autism

>To: parenting_autism >

>Subject: Tortured

>Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:24:01 -0400

>

>Tonight was just awful.

>

>Bear with me.

>

>Sophie had a softball game. Last week Sophie's softball team had their

>pictures taken; they got their uniforms the same day. When Sophie arrived

>home, she did not have a hat. I wondered about it.

>

>I didn't know that Sophie had a softball game until this morning.

>Apparently the coach gave all the game details to Lou who did not bother to

>let me know about it. When I objected, he said that I never told him

>anything unless he asked. I have been calling him every morning to let him

>know what is going on but apparently that is not enough. I do not think

>that most divorced or nearly divorced parents do this; I shall stop doing

>it in the future for apparently it is not appreciated.

>

>No hat ever materialized. Lou told me to please look for it. But I did

>not think it had ever come into the house for I had never seen it. However

>I looked for it in all the places that it might be without ever finding it.

>

>Lou was furious about this. And then we had the discussion about the

>soccer pictures. He took Sophie to her softball game and he took Robbie

>and Putter. He told me that he would bring Robbie and Putter home in the

>middle of the game so that he could watch Sophie play.

>

>As he drove off, Sophie later told me that he said that I was too lazy to

>bother looking for the hat.

>

>Her game started at 6 pm. I expected Robbie and Putter around 6:30. They

>did not arrive. I figured that he was keeping them throughout the game, but

>we had parted on such very hostile terms that I worried. Thoughts of

>kidnapping entered my head. I didn't really believe them, but I could not

>relax.

>

>They were not home at 8 p.m. I called Lou's apartment and got his

>answering machine. They were not home at 9 p.m. All I could do was pace

>the floors and wonder what I should do. I called Sophie's coach and found

>that Sophie was at the game and that it had ended at 8:20. That was not

>too long ago. But by 9:15, I was really frightened and worried.

>

>I told Enrique and to call me if the three younger kids ever got

>home. I got in my car and I drove to Lou's apartment. On the way, at

>every light, I called on my cell phone. No answering machine picked up;

>the phone just rang and rang. His answering machine always picks up.. So I

>knew he was there.

>

>I pulled into his driveway, and knocked loudly on the door. I had my cell

>phone set at 911 in case he turned violent. I told him I wanted the kids

>now and why hadn't he informed me that he was taking them to his place.

> " Well, " he said, nastily, " I don't have a cell phone. "

>

>But they had been at his place for over an hour, Sophie later confirmed.

>He did it to torture me. That is the only explanation.

>

>I told him that I was taking the kids home now. He said that they were

>taking a bath. I started to go and get them but he told me that I was not

>welcome. So I waited.

>

>They all came down and I drove off with them. Sophie said that Lou had

>told them that they would come over to his house to watch a movie and take

>a bath. She had no idea that I did not konw.

>

>I have them all safe at home again, but I wonder just how long he had

>planned to keep them at his apartment, torturing me as I paced the floors

>at home and waited.

>

>I call my lawyer tomorrow. If I am not welcome in his apartment, I assure

>you all that he is not welcome in my house.

>

>Salli

>

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>>>>>>>>

I call my lawyer tomorrow. If I am not welcome in his apartment, I assure

you all that he is not welcome in my house.

Salli

<<<<<<<<

I certainly hope that this is the case. Enough is enough. He's acting

worse than a 2 year old and should not be allowed to be with his children

until he learns how to behave.

Unfortunately, Salli, by reading this it's VERY obvious that he is bringing

Sophie into the middle of this. This is going to be very detrimental to

her, especially as she moves into adolescence. I hope you and your lawyer

can figure out a way to stop this.

Poor Sophie...the emotional toll is going to be devistating. I'm sorry to

be so blunt, but this man is not worthy of his children.

Penny :/

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DITTO.

Penny - still angry......

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YOU are not welcome in HIS apartment? After HE sat strumming his guitar

and having his FEET WASHED in your dining room during Lent?

YOU are not welcome in HIS apartment when HE comes into your home and STEALS

FOOD?

You allow him broad and unlimited extremely generous time with his children,

and he keeps them late without a word to torture you?

Do call your lawyer. It is time to stop this man. Granted, he may be aspie

and unaware of social crap, but not all aspies are mean spirited,

vindictive, and spiteful. Aspies can be good or bad people just like any

one else. You can't let it influence your view of him any longer. He's

just plain an evil person.

(((hugs)))

Jacquie

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Sounds like he is really getting worse instead of getting any message from

being in jail. Maybe he needs to visit it again! What an absolute jerk!

Maybe you need some very clearly defined visitation schedule that you can

use against him to make him follow set times?

By the way, whatever happened to your taxes?

Sue

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>>>>>>>

Sounds like he realized his little manipulation game was about to

backfire and decided to weasel back into good (or acceptable) graces.

And I know you know him better than I do Salli, but if you give him

an inch, he's gonna run a mile.

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I so totally agree.

:-(

Penny

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