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Subj: board

Date: 8/22/01 4:09:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time

From: mdw@... ( Worobec)

To: rosacea-support (rosacea)

<< Question? When anyone posts a question to rosacea-support, the replies

go to that person but not to all the members. Those of us reading the

board (or the digests) never see the answers.... and if I search the

archives, mostly I see questions, not answers.

How is a support group supportive if it only contains questions?

Please do not reply to me... reply to the board. Perhaps there is some

way to fix this problem. >>

This is the only list I belong to that is set up the way it is. Below is

another yahoogroups list I belong to that when you reply it automatically

goes to the list. I'm assuming yahoogroups has to change what goes into

" From " and add " Reply-to " , which is what is messing things up. Every time I

reply to the list I have to cut and paste the rosacea-support addy. Does

this list have a moderator?

Subj: [WellPeople] Digest Number 59

Date: 8/22/01 12:54:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time

From: WellPeople

Reply-to: WellPeople

To: WellPeople

Rene

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Don't know about the other email services but - with AOL there are 2 reply

buttons. One is a " reply " just to the poster and the other is " reply all " .

If I hit the reply button it isn't posted - gotta hit the reply all button.

In a message dated 8/22/2001 8:41:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, crener@...

writes:

> << Question? When anyone posts a question to rosacea-support, the replies

> go to that person but not to all the members. Those of us reading the

> board (or the digests) never see the answers.... and if I search the

> archives, mostly I see questions, not answers.

> How is a support group supportive if it only contains questions?

> Please do not reply to me... reply to the board. Perhaps there is some

> way to fix this problem. >>

>

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I think a lot of us are concerned about overloading everybody. But I agree with

you; I'd love to see

some answers to all that appear as posted questions. I also do what I just

described above.

But, also, recently, I see these postings from one person that say something

like 'Digest # something

or other " -- and I'm never sure what it means, except that it suggests that one

should have memorized

Dr. Nase's book and all the archival information on this site. Which I can't.

So, it makes me less

easy about posting 'public' responses.

Worobec wrote:

> Question? When anyone posts a question to rosacea-support, the replies

> go to that person but not to all the members. Those of us reading the

> board (or the digests) never see the answers.... and if I search the

> archives, mostly I see questions, not answers.

> How is a support group supportive if it only contains questions?

> Please do not reply to me... reply to the board. Perhaps there is some

> way to fix this problem.

>

> --

> Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group

(http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html)

>

> See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

>

> To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribe

>

>

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The problem is that alot of people, including me, never obtain the

new posts from the board, we simply reply directly from our e.mail,

so the replies only go the the person posting the question. Another

problem is the people who reply via the board, but forget to change

the recipient in the " to " box at the top, so it goes only to the

person posting the original message by default.

I think the problem could be at least partially solved by the default

in the " to " box becoming rosacea-support .

-- In rosacea-support@y..., Worobec wrote:

> Question? When anyone posts a question to rosacea-support, the

replies

> go to that person but not to all the members. Those of us reading

the

> board (or the digests) never see the answers.... and if I search the

> archives, mostly I see questions, not answers.

> How is a support group supportive if it only contains questions?

> Please do not reply to me... reply to the board. Perhaps there is

some

> way to fix this problem.

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Hello, I am a new member here, I have Burning, Red Eyes, and Lids

All day, I am really suffering, I have had this all my life, and I finally

found this support group. Is there any hope. I have extreme sensitivities

to: CHEMICALS, DETERGENTS, SUN, WARM ROOMS, SMOKE,

AND Sensitivity to Light, AND Most Chemical Odors. My doctor has

just diagnosed me as having OCULAR ROSACEA, since I have also had

acne most of my life. Is there any relief for me from BURNING EYES & LIDS

also at night,... because my eyes go through such suffering and pain all day..

when they are at rest at night.. THEY BEGIN TO " DRY OUT " and I wake up

in the middle of the night with BURNING DRY EYES. Can someone please help.

Thankyou, Rich

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Errin,

I have the same question. I think this is how it works:

To send a message to the board it must go to rosacea-support

If you hit the reply key to respond, the response only goes to the original

sender of the message. If you want it to also go the board, you must add the

rosacea-support > address as the second receiver of the

message.

Someone said you can also use " reply all " but this will only work if the yahoo

address appears in the " To: " space on the message.

I've sent this to both you (Errin) and to the board. Let's see if it works.

Errin Hoffman wrote:

> Hello-

> I am a new member, and I believe I have been replying to the person versus

> the board b/c I don't know how to the the latter. Could you please let new

> members know how to do this. Sorry, but I just couldn't figure it out.

> Thanks for the help.

>

> board

>

> > Question? When anyone posts a question to rosacea-support, the replies

> > go to that person but not to all the members. Those of us reading the

> > board (or the digests) never see the answers.... and if I search the

> > archives, mostly I see questions, not answers.

> > How is a support group supportive if it only contains questions?

> > Please do not reply to me... reply to the board. Perhaps there is some

> > way to fix this problem.

> >

> >

> >

> > --

> > Please read the list highlights before posting to the whole group

> (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html)

> >

> > See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently published book.

> >

> > To leave the list send an email to

> rosacea-support-unsubscribe

> >

> >

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Rich,

I'm not expert but it sounds like you have a bad case. I have a terrible time

with

heat, with sun, warm foods, chewing, and with anything I put on my face so I can

empathize with how you must feel. Have you got Dr. Nase's book? It might help.

You may also want to talk to your doctor about clonidine or moxonidine to calm

your sympathetic nervous system. I hear that low dose accutane can give good

relief from the burning. Refresh makes eye drops without preservatives. There

are

two kinds... the thicker one is good at night.

Check your meds. Some can make rosacea worse. Also be on the lookout for foods

and

meds that dilate blood vessels or that have a lot of B vitamins. For example,

some

pasta is loaded with B vitamins and can make your skin burning hot. So can

avocados and coffee.

A food diary can help. Just write down everything you eat and write down how you

feel. In time, some patterns may emerge.

Keep your chin up, eat ice and continue to look for answers. Good luck.

WARREN53@... wrote:

> Hello, I am a new member here, I have Burning, Red Eyes, and Lids

> All day, I am really suffering, I have had this all my life, and I finally

> found this support group. Is there any hope. I have extreme sensitivities

> to: CHEMICALS, DETERGENTS, SUN, WARM ROOMS, SMOKE,

> AND Sensitivity to Light, AND Most Chemical Odors. My doctor has

> just diagnosed me as having OCULAR ROSACEA, since I have also had

> acne most of my life. Is there any relief for me from BURNING EYES & LIDS

> also at night,... because my eyes go through such suffering and pain all day..

> when they are at rest at night.. THEY BEGIN TO " DRY OUT " and I wake up

> in the middle of the night with BURNING DRY EYES. Can someone please help.

> Thankyou, Rich

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Subj: Re: OCULAR ROSACEA - SENSITIVITIES

Date: 8/24/2001

To: jjar7000@...

Dear Laurel,

Can you please explain this procedure, " tear duct electro cauterization "

what would happen in this procedure, and WHY would it benefit me, can you

please explain why it would have a beneficial effect in my case, I am very

glad

that you have had improvement, I wish you the best of health, and hope you

can help me further, I have never heard of this procedure, is it reversible

??

Is there any other treatment that I can try if this is not reversible,, that

would

be effective ? Thankyou very much,

<< Hi Warren,

I have severe occular rosacea wih all of the syptoms you have

described. I tried everything for years, and the only thing that has

helped was having all 4 of my tear ducts electro-cauterized. I still

have some sensetivities, but I would say I am 85% better, and I has

changed my life for the better.

<< rosacea-support >>

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Dear ,

Thankyou so much for your kind help, but almost any " eye drop " I put in

my

eyes seem to make things worse, is there help for me without eye drops ?

, all my life I have wondered if all I have is just CHEMICAL

SENSITIVITY THAT EFFECTS JUST MY EYES AND MAKES THEM BURN. Could it be just

the Heat and Chemicals that is Effecting me, or is it true that I do have

OCULAR ROSACEA, that is making my eyes so RAW & SENSITIVE, THAT when Any

Chemical Odor or Fume or War AIR touches them they Burn ? Can you help me

figure this out,

Could the " Warm Air Sensitivity " be the Key ? Since Most people wouldn't

get Burning Eyes from a simple Warm Room, is it actually the ROSACEA that is

making my eyes & lids so sensitive that they are picking up any change of

temperature, Chemical or anything that touches them ? Thankyou , I hope

you can solve this question I have had for a long time.

<< Rich,

I'm not expert but it sounds like you have a bad case. I have a terrible

time with

heat, with sun, warm foods, chewing, and with anything I put on my face so I

can

empathize with how you must feel. Have you got Dr. Nase's book? It might

help.

You may also want to talk to your doctor about clonidine or moxonidine to

calm

your sympathetic nervous system. I hear that low dose accutane can give good

relief from the burning. Refresh makes eye drops without preservatives.

There are

two kinds... the thicker one is good at night.

Check your meds. Some can make rosacea worse. Also be on the lookout for

foods and

meds that dilate blood vessels or that have a lot of B vitamins. For

example, some

pasta is loaded with B vitamins and can make your skin burning hot. So can

avocados and coffee.

A food diary can help. Just write down everything you eat and write down how

you

feel. In time, some patterns may emerge.

Keep your chin up, eat ice and continue to look for answers. Good luck.

WARREN53@... wrote:

> Hello, I am a new member here, I have Burning, Red Eyes, and Lids

> All day, I am really suffering, I have had this all my life, and I

finally

> found this support group. Is there any hope. I have extreme sensitivities

> to: CHEMICALS, DETERGENTS, SUN, WARM ROOMS, SMOKE,

> AND Sensitivity to Light, AND Most Chemical Odors. My doctor has

> just diagnosed me as having OCULAR ROSACEA, since I have also had

> acne most of my life. Is there any relief for me from BURNING EYES & LIDS

> also at night,... because my eyes go through such suffering and pain all

day..

> when they are at rest at night.. THEY BEGIN TO " DRY OUT " and I wake up

> in the middle of the night with BURNING DRY EYES. Can someone please

help.

> Thankyou, Rich

>>

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Same with me if I hit reply all it goes to everyone.

I'm not with AOL - I believe all E-Mail service has

that capability.

--- woody1046@... wrote:

> Don't know about the other email services but - with

> AOL there are 2 reply

> buttons. One is a " reply " just to the poster and

> the other is " reply all " .

> If I hit the reply button it isn't posted - gotta

> hit the reply all button.

>

>

> In a message dated 8/22/2001 8:41:22 PM Eastern

> Daylight Time, crener@...

> writes:

>

>

> > << Question? When anyone posts a question to

> rosacea-support, the replies

> > go to that person but not to all the members.

> Those of us reading the

> > board (or the digests) never see the answers....

> and if I search the

> > archives, mostly I see questions, not answers.

> > How is a support group supportive if it only

> contains questions?

> > Please do not reply to me... reply to the board.

> Perhaps there is some

> > way to fix this problem. >>

> >

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

> --

> Please read the list highlights before posting to

> the whole group (http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html)

>

> See http://www.drnase.com for info on his recently

> published book.

>

> To leave the list send an email to

> rosacea-support-unsubscribe

>

>

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