Re: sleep

[Guest guest]

1998 Omnibus Sleep in America Poll by National Sleep Foundation:

.....the average American sleeps six hours, 57 minutes a night during the

workweek.

Experts recommend a minimum of eight hours a night.

Long-term sleep deprivation can lead to heart disease and mental health

problems.

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[Guest guest]

, I don't really need to hear this. None of us are choosing to be

sleep deprived. Now we can lie (or walk) awake in the middle of the night

and think about the heart problems and/or mental problems we are

vulnerable to. (bad grammer, but I can't think of another way to say it)

ne, 58, Lawrenceville, NJ

On Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:04:02 EST RAINBOWPED@... writes:

>From: RAINBOWPED@...

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>1998 Omnibus Sleep in America Poll by National Sleep Foundation:

>....the average American sleeps six hours, 57 minutes a night during

>the

>workweek.

>Experts recommend a minimum of eight hours a night.

>Long-term sleep deprivation can lead to heart disease and mental

>health

>problems.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

---Shirley H Isbill isbills@...> wrote:

>

> From: isbills@... (Shirley H Isbill)

>

> , I don't really need to hear this. None of us are choosing

to be

> sleep deprived. Now we can lie (or walk) awake in the middle of the

night

> and think about the heart problems and/or mental problems we are

> vulnerable to. (bad grammer, but I can't think of another way to

say it)

> ne, 58, Lawrenceville, NJ

ne,

No, we don't choose to be sleep deprived, but perhaps the knowledge of

the long-term consequences will alert both us and our doctors to be

aggressive in trying to address our problem. I think that was

's point.

I lived with severe chronic sleep deprivation for years with rather

serious consequences before my doctor stopped trivializing my problem.

He used to say " Maybe you just don't need much sleep. " He knows

better now.

--, 52 western NY state

[Guest guest]

Just reading that the average person sleeps six hours, fifty-seven minutes a

night during the work week. Experts recommend a minimum of eight hours a

night. Sleep-deprived people may feel better if they sleep longer on

weekends, but it's IMPOSSIBLE to make up for the adverse effect that lack of

sleep has already had on their health and productivity. Joan Goldberg, assoc.

executive dir. of programs, National Sleep Foundation, www.sleepfoundation.org

Geez, I have a lot of " adverse effects " saved up over the years!

I could sleep the rest of my life and never make up for my lack of sleep!

RAINBOWPED@...

[Guest guest]

Just reading that the average person sleeps six hours, fifty-seven minutes a

night during the work week. Experts recommend a minimum of eight hours a

night. Sleep-deprived people may feel better if they sleep longer on

weekends, but it's IMPOSSIBLE to make up for the adverse effect that lack of

sleep has already had on their health and productivity. Joan Goldberg, assoc.

executive dir. of programs, National Sleep Foundation, www.sleepfoundation.org

Geez, I have a lot of " adverse effects " saved up over the years!

I could sleep the rest of my life and never make up for my lack of sleep!

RAINBOWPED@...

[Guest guest]

Hi, Gretchen.

Sonata is a great little drug, I think. Its active life is supposed

to be about four hours, so that one could take it at, say, 2:00 a.m.

and still expect to wake up to a 6:00 a.m. alarm. I haven't tested

that out, but I think that's the expectation, and why it's so

attractive. As far as regulating the " sleep cycle, " well, I think it

has helped my body understand that it's supposed to sleep during the

night. But I'm not sure how that all works. At any rate it reduces my

stress level about sleeping, and that was extreme a few months ago

(and had been for a long while). The anxiety that insomnia produces

is very hard to deal with, at least for me. If I didn't work, it

would probably be different, because I could catch up during the day

on lost sleep. But it's not too cool to sleep at one's desk at the

company! I know that I see the Sonata as somewhat of a crutch - I

know it's there if I need it. But frankly, considering where I was,

I really don't give a hoot! I hope not to get back into that awful

insomnia again. My sleep now is not all roses, by any means, and I do

have those times when other stresses are such that I need to pop a

pill, but it's sure a lot better than before.

Don't know anything about Alluna.

Regards, Carolyn

> Carolyn, I 've been wondering about Sonata. But will it make one

sleep

> more than 4 hours? Did the Sonata regulate your 'sleep cycle'? Also

has

> anyone heard about Alluna? It is supposedly some herb type thing

that is

> a new sleep inducer. As for the powerlessness you mentioned, I

totally

> agree with you on that.

>

> Gretchen

[Guest guest]

Lamar here,

You will find information on Sonata at

http://www.thriveonline.aol.com/health/edge/sonata2.html Note: It is only for

short term use, usually 7-10 days.

Alluna is simply a combination of valerian and Hops, both aid in sleep. I

prefer a mixture containing Passionflower and Skullcap in addition to the other

two. Kava added also helps. I have also found that this helps my PLMS more

than any Rx medication. You can get many combinations of valerian, hops and

passionflower at any herb shop, as well as most pharmacies, even Wal-Mart has

it. My favorite blend is " Nighttime Herbs " by " Now " but there are dozens of

others and most are cheaper than Alluna. " Good Nite " by " Natures Herbs "

contains all five I mentioned and I have found it an excellent blend. I know

many who have tried it.

Re: sleep

Hi, Gretchen.

Sonata is a great little drug, I think. Its active life is supposed

to be about four hours, so that one could take it at, say, 2:00 a.m.

and still expect to wake up to a 6:00 a.m. alarm. I haven't tested

that out, but I think that's the expectation, and why it's so

attractive. As far as regulating the " sleep cycle, " well, I think it

has helped my body understand that it's supposed to sleep during the

night. But I'm not sure how that all works. At any rate it reduces my

stress level about sleeping, and that was extreme a few months ago

(and had been for a long while). The anxiety that insomnia produces

is very hard to deal with, at least for me. If I didn't work, it

would probably be different, because I could catch up during the day

on lost sleep. But it's not too cool to sleep at one's desk at the

company! I know that I see the Sonata as somewhat of a crutch - I

know it's there if I need it. But frankly, considering where I was,

I really don't give a hoot! I hope not to get back into that awful

insomnia again. My sleep now is not all roses, by any means, and I do

have those times when other stresses are such that I need to pop a

pill, but it's sure a lot better than before.

Don't know anything about Alluna.

Regards, Carolyn

> Carolyn, I 've been wondering about Sonata. But will it make one

sleep

> more than 4 hours? Did the Sonata regulate your 'sleep cycle'? Also

has

> anyone heard about Alluna? It is supposedly some herb type thing

that is

> a new sleep inducer. As for the powerlessness you mentioned, I

totally

> agree with you on that.

>

> Gretchen

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Lamar here,

You will find information on Sonata at

http://www.thriveonline.aol.com/health/edge/sonata2.html Note: It is only for

short term use, usually 7-10 days.

Alluna is simply a combination of valerian and Hops, both aid in sleep. I

prefer a mixture containing Passionflower and Skullcap in addition to the other

two. Kava added also helps. I have also found that this helps my PLMS more

than any Rx medication. You can get many combinations of valerian, hops and

passionflower at any herb shop, as well as most pharmacies, even Wal-Mart has

it. My favorite blend is " Nighttime Herbs " by " Now " but there are dozens of

others and most are cheaper than Alluna. " Good Nite " by " Natures Herbs "

contains all five I mentioned and I have found it an excellent blend. I know

many who have tried it.

Re: sleep

Hi, Gretchen.

Sonata is a great little drug, I think. Its active life is supposed

to be about four hours, so that one could take it at, say, 2:00 a.m.

and still expect to wake up to a 6:00 a.m. alarm. I haven't tested

that out, but I think that's the expectation, and why it's so

attractive. As far as regulating the " sleep cycle, " well, I think it

has helped my body understand that it's supposed to sleep during the

night. But I'm not sure how that all works. At any rate it reduces my

stress level about sleeping, and that was extreme a few months ago

(and had been for a long while). The anxiety that insomnia produces

is very hard to deal with, at least for me. If I didn't work, it

would probably be different, because I could catch up during the day

on lost sleep. But it's not too cool to sleep at one's desk at the

company! I know that I see the Sonata as somewhat of a crutch - I

know it's there if I need it. But frankly, considering where I was,

I really don't give a hoot! I hope not to get back into that awful

insomnia again. My sleep now is not all roses, by any means, and I do

have those times when other stresses are such that I need to pop a

pill, but it's sure a lot better than before.

Don't know anything about Alluna.

Regards, Carolyn

> Carolyn, I 've been wondering about Sonata. But will it make one

sleep

> more than 4 hours? Did the Sonata regulate your 'sleep cycle'? Also

has

> anyone heard about Alluna? It is supposedly some herb type thing

that is

> a new sleep inducer. As for the powerlessness you mentioned, I

totally

> agree with you on that.

>

> Gretchen

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[Guest guest]

Lamar here,

You will find information on Sonata at

http://www.thriveonline.aol.com/health/edge/sonata2.html Note: It is only for

short term use, usually 7-10 days.

Alluna is simply a combination of valerian and Hops, both aid in sleep. I

prefer a mixture containing Passionflower and Skullcap in addition to the other

two. Kava added also helps. I have also found that this helps my PLMS more

than any Rx medication. You can get many combinations of valerian, hops and

passionflower at any herb shop, as well as most pharmacies, even Wal-Mart has

it. My favorite blend is " Nighttime Herbs " by " Now " but there are dozens of

others and most are cheaper than Alluna. " Good Nite " by " Natures Herbs "

contains all five I mentioned and I have found it an excellent blend. I know

many who have tried it.

Re: sleep

Hi, Gretchen.

Sonata is a great little drug, I think. Its active life is supposed

to be about four hours, so that one could take it at, say, 2:00 a.m.

and still expect to wake up to a 6:00 a.m. alarm. I haven't tested

that out, but I think that's the expectation, and why it's so

attractive. As far as regulating the " sleep cycle, " well, I think it

has helped my body understand that it's supposed to sleep during the

night. But I'm not sure how that all works. At any rate it reduces my

stress level about sleeping, and that was extreme a few months ago

(and had been for a long while). The anxiety that insomnia produces

is very hard to deal with, at least for me. If I didn't work, it

would probably be different, because I could catch up during the day

on lost sleep. But it's not too cool to sleep at one's desk at the

company! I know that I see the Sonata as somewhat of a crutch - I

know it's there if I need it. But frankly, considering where I was,

I really don't give a hoot! I hope not to get back into that awful

insomnia again. My sleep now is not all roses, by any means, and I do

have those times when other stresses are such that I need to pop a

pill, but it's sure a lot better than before.

Don't know anything about Alluna.

Regards, Carolyn

> Carolyn, I 've been wondering about Sonata. But will it make one

sleep

> more than 4 hours? Did the Sonata regulate your 'sleep cycle'? Also

has

> anyone heard about Alluna? It is supposedly some herb type thing

that is

> a new sleep inducer. As for the powerlessness you mentioned, I

totally

> agree with you on that.

>

> Gretchen

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Lamar and all. For some time now, I have felt that part of my

insomnia problems are due to the fact that my body is just not

comfortable with itself, because of all the stuff that's going on

with my arms and legs, hands and feet. I've taken Kava before and

found it to be very helpful, since it is a muscle relaxer. BUT for

anyone who hasn't read about it, there is some kind of visual

disturbance that can happen with repeated use. I'm sorry, I don't

have a Web site reference handy. Just remember reading that in a

couple of places. So that made me quite cautious in its use. I

wonder, though, about other types of " muscle relaxer " drugs. Any

comments out there?

Carolyn

> > Carolyn, I 've been wondering about Sonata. But will it make

one

> sleep

> > more than 4 hours? Did the Sonata regulate your 'sleep cycle'?

Also

> has

> > anyone heard about Alluna? It is supposedly some herb type

thing

> that is

> > a new sleep inducer. As for the powerlessness you mentioned, I

> totally

> > agree with you on that.

> >

> > Gretchen

>

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[Guest guest]

When can't sleep, I can feel it in his body, if

I rest my hand firmly on his shoulder, there is an

underlying current - flinching. Scince the diet, it

doesnt happen often but when it does, I lay with him,

he is 10. I lay with him reading everynight, no

matter how loud and hyper he gets before bed, as soon

as I lay down with him he calms, we often read for an

hour but if hes too hyper to focus, I put on classical

music and just massage his head- it works every times,

sometimes it takes 30-40 minutes but usually only 10!

Ignoring him in this state as I have done in the past

would leave him awake until 10-12-even 1am!

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[Guest guest]

Hi Acumen,

You might suggest Melatonin to your girlfriend to help her with

sleep. It's the hormone our body uses to tell us it's time to sleep.

some caution is required when using this. Also, becoming educated

upon sleep disorders is a good thing. I got several books and used

them to help get my insomnia issues under control. There are many

things to do to help get to sleep. Cut out caffeine, don't eat or

exercise right before bed, take calcium supplements at night, etc.

There are many things to try. Your girlfriend will have to experiment

to see which one works best for her. Hope this helps.

Take care,

[Guest guest]

Hi Acumen,

You might suggest Melatonin to your girlfriend to help her with

sleep. It's the hormone our body uses to tell us it's time to sleep.

some caution is required when using this. Also, becoming educated

upon sleep disorders is a good thing. I got several books and used

them to help get my insomnia issues under control. There are many

things to do to help get to sleep. Cut out caffeine, don't eat or

exercise right before bed, take calcium supplements at night, etc.

There are many things to try. Your girlfriend will have to experiment

to see which one works best for her. Hope this helps.

Take care,

[Guest guest]

This is one of the major problems. Never completing the 4 stages of

sleep.

My Doc always sayes " If I could just get you to go through steps 1-4

( in sleep) then we might could get somewhere.

But, I think that is impossible.

For just like your girlfriend - I never sleep through the night (

complete 4 stage) and if I take something it only causes fatigue to

be worse the next day.

I have realized that what is best for me is - sleep when Body sayes

sleep - be awake when it sayes be awake. Alot of times sleep only

comes for a few hours at a time and at the wrong time of day. But on

those days that I can do this then I feel an OUNCE better.

Unfortunately we can not abide by this all the time.

Cinda

> Hello Everyone,

> In case you don't know, I'm on this list because my girlfriend

has Fibromyalgia and I " m trying to learn more so I can help her and

be supportive.

> Anyhow, she, as many of you do has a hard time sleeping. She

can fall asleep and stay in bed all night but she doesn't reach that

deep sleep she needs and often wakes up though out the night.

> She has medication that helps her sleep but if she takes it it

makes her so sleepy the next day to where she almost can't do

anything.

> Do you guys have any suggestions?

> Thanks

> AcumenX : Kyne

> acumen@a... acumenx on AIM

> www.acumenstudios.com : the creators underground

> Turning VISIONS into REALITY

> www.ad3.com : the future of webdesign

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is one of the major problems. Never completing the 4 stages of

sleep.

My Doc always sayes " If I could just get you to go through steps 1-4

( in sleep) then we might could get somewhere.

But, I think that is impossible.

For just like your girlfriend - I never sleep through the night (

complete 4 stage) and if I take something it only causes fatigue to

be worse the next day.

I have realized that what is best for me is - sleep when Body sayes

sleep - be awake when it sayes be awake. Alot of times sleep only

comes for a few hours at a time and at the wrong time of day. But on

those days that I can do this then I feel an OUNCE better.

Unfortunately we can not abide by this all the time.

Cinda

> Hello Everyone,

> In case you don't know, I'm on this list because my girlfriend

has Fibromyalgia and I " m trying to learn more so I can help her and

be supportive.

> Anyhow, she, as many of you do has a hard time sleeping. She

can fall asleep and stay in bed all night but she doesn't reach that

deep sleep she needs and often wakes up though out the night.

> She has medication that helps her sleep but if she takes it it

makes her so sleepy the next day to where she almost can't do

anything.

> Do you guys have any suggestions?

> Thanks

> AcumenX : Kyne

> acumen@a... acumenx on AIM

> www.acumenstudios.com : the creators underground

> Turning VISIONS into REALITY

> www.ad3.com : the future of webdesign

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is one of the major problems. Never completing the 4 stages of

sleep.

My Doc always sayes " If I could just get you to go through steps 1-4

( in sleep) then we might could get somewhere.

But, I think that is impossible.

For just like your girlfriend - I never sleep through the night (

complete 4 stage) and if I take something it only causes fatigue to

be worse the next day.

I have realized that what is best for me is - sleep when Body sayes

sleep - be awake when it sayes be awake. Alot of times sleep only

comes for a few hours at a time and at the wrong time of day. But on

those days that I can do this then I feel an OUNCE better.

Unfortunately we can not abide by this all the time.

Cinda

> Hello Everyone,

> In case you don't know, I'm on this list because my girlfriend

has Fibromyalgia and I " m trying to learn more so I can help her and

be supportive.

> Anyhow, she, as many of you do has a hard time sleeping. She

can fall asleep and stay in bed all night but she doesn't reach that

deep sleep she needs and often wakes up though out the night.

> She has medication that helps her sleep but if she takes it it

makes her so sleepy the next day to where she almost can't do

anything.

> Do you guys have any suggestions?

> Thanks

> AcumenX : Kyne

> acumen@a... acumenx on AIM

> www.acumenstudios.com : the creators underground

> Turning VISIONS into REALITY

> www.ad3.com : the future of webdesign

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Has she ever had a sleep study done? Apnea seems to be related to fibromyalgia.

Okay, I know this because it is probably my biggest problem.

~ :-D

Sleep

Hello Everyone,

In case you don't know, I'm on this list because my girlfriend has

Fibromyalgia and I " m trying to learn more so I can help her and be supportive.

Anyhow, she, as many of you do has a hard time sleeping. She can fall

asleep and stay in bed all night but she doesn't reach that deep sleep she needs

and often wakes up though out the night.

She has medication that helps her sleep but if she takes it it makes her

so sleepy the next day to where she almost can't do anything.

Do you guys have any suggestions?

Thanks

AcumenX : Kyne

acumen@... acumenx on AIM

www.acumenstudios.com : the creators underground

Turning VISIONS into REALITY

www.ad3.com : the future of webdesign

[Guest guest]

Has she ever had a sleep study done? Apnea seems to be related to fibromyalgia.

Okay, I know this because it is probably my biggest problem.

~ :-D

Sleep

Hello Everyone,

In case you don't know, I'm on this list because my girlfriend has

Fibromyalgia and I " m trying to learn more so I can help her and be supportive.

Anyhow, she, as many of you do has a hard time sleeping. She can fall

asleep and stay in bed all night but she doesn't reach that deep sleep she needs

and often wakes up though out the night.

She has medication that helps her sleep but if she takes it it makes her

so sleepy the next day to where she almost can't do anything.

Do you guys have any suggestions?

Thanks

AcumenX : Kyne

acumen@... acumenx on AIM

www.acumenstudios.com : the creators underground

Turning VISIONS into REALITY

www.ad3.com : the future of webdesign

[Guest guest]

Has she ever had a sleep study done? Apnea seems to be related to fibromyalgia.

Okay, I know this because it is probably my biggest problem.

~ :-D

Sleep

Hello Everyone,

In case you don't know, I'm on this list because my girlfriend has

Fibromyalgia and I " m trying to learn more so I can help her and be supportive.

Anyhow, she, as many of you do has a hard time sleeping. She can fall

asleep and stay in bed all night but she doesn't reach that deep sleep she needs

and often wakes up though out the night.

She has medication that helps her sleep but if she takes it it makes her

so sleepy the next day to where she almost can't do anything.

Do you guys have any suggestions?

Thanks

AcumenX : Kyne

acumen@... acumenx on AIM

www.acumenstudios.com : the creators underground

Turning VISIONS into REALITY

www.ad3.com : the future of webdesign

[Guest guest]

Hi Marie

I have used a lot of different mattresses, none of them seemed to help me

till I got the Select Comfort. It is a little expensive but it has been

worth every penny cause of the way it makes my back feel. That bed can give

me more comfort than any pain pill. I can adjust the air whichever way I

want it. I can adjust it to be real soft or real hard, whichever is more

comfortable. If you get a chance, look in your phone book and see if there

is a store near you. Go there and talk to the Salesperson about it. Lay on

one, you will be hooked. Good Luck in finding a good mattress. I looked for

years till I found Select Comfort.

Gentle Hugs

Sherry in SC

" In order to succeed you must fail, so that you know what not to do the next

time. "

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Hi Marie

I have used a lot of different mattresses, none of them seemed to help me

till I got the Select Comfort. It is a little expensive but it has been

worth every penny cause of the way it makes my back feel. That bed can give

me more comfort than any pain pill. I can adjust the air whichever way I

want it. I can adjust it to be real soft or real hard, whichever is more

comfortable. If you get a chance, look in your phone book and see if there

is a store near you. Go there and talk to the Salesperson about it. Lay on

one, you will be hooked. Good Luck in finding a good mattress. I looked for

years till I found Select Comfort.

Gentle Hugs

Sherry in SC

" In order to succeed you must fail, so that you know what not to do the next

time. "

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[Guest guest]

REquest a sleep study to see if she has sleep apnea.

Never dreamed I had it but stop breathing 30-50 times

a minute. Check it out. Star

--- " Acumen X : Kyne " acumenxk@...> wrote:

> Hello Everyone,

> In case you don't know, I'm on this list because

> my girlfriend has Fibromyalgia and I " m trying to

> learn more so I can help her and be supportive.

> Anyhow, she, as many of you do has a hard time

> sleeping. She can fall asleep and stay in bed all

> night but she doesn't reach that deep sleep she

> needs and often wakes up though out the night.

> She has medication that helps her sleep but if

> she takes it it makes her so sleepy the next day to

> where she almost can't do anything.

> Do you guys have any suggestions?

> Thanks

> AcumenX : Kyne

> acumen@... acumenx on AIM

> www.acumenstudios.com : the creators underground

> Turning VISIONS into REALITY

> www.ad3.com : the future of webdesign

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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[Guest guest]

This has been a thread that I have found very interesting. I wonder how

many of us have sleeping problems? I also have a tendency to have

trouble getting to sleep and staying asleep. If I should wake up during

the night, the brain instantly turns on and then there is NO hope of

getting anymore sleep. Needless to say, too many nights of that and my

whole cycle gets screwed up. I have tried mild sleeping pills, but don't

like the way they make me feel the next day. I have tried Tylenol PM

with success. It seems to work the best, but NOW....I think I have hit

on something that works for me. Like many of you...I have found that

mindless droning...like what you get with the news....puts me right to

sleep and keeps me there. Unfortunately, I don't have the luxury of

being able to turn on the TV during the night when I wake up....because

it disturbs my husband who HAS to be up by 4:30 am. So, when I commented

to him that I wish I could listen to the news WITHOUT the tv on....he

got an idea. We bought little tiny Sony ear phones (they fit just in the

ear) and a slightly longer " wire " (I can't think what else to call it)

so I can plug the ear phones into my clock radio and I listen to a news

station. I only stick one phone in the ear that I am NOT laying on and

now it takes about 5 min for me to fall asleep. I don't have to use the

alarm portion of my clock radio so I just leave it on all the time. If I

should wake up in the middle of the night and the ear phone has fallen

out...I just plug it back into the ear and I am off in lala land once

again. Every NOW and then I have to use my alarm, I just use the snooze

button and that works ok too. I just hit snooze if I wake up in the

middle of the night. I also use an eye mask as ANY light will wake me

up...even the light from the clock radios. I have to say that

occassionally I wish I could stay up long enough to listen to what ever

it is that is being discussed on the radio, but since I have started

this...it just doesn't happen. Which is good as I feel much better now

that I am getting some sleep.

Debbie in Gig Harbor

Original RNY Jan 22, 1999

Dr. Weber

Seattle, WA

Revision Feb. 16, 2001

170cm bypassed

320lbs - 208

ladybostons@...

[Guest guest]

This has been a thread that I have found very interesting. I wonder how

many of us have sleeping problems? I also have a tendency to have

trouble getting to sleep and staying asleep. If I should wake up during

the night, the brain instantly turns on and then there is NO hope of

getting anymore sleep. Needless to say, too many nights of that and my

whole cycle gets screwed up. I have tried mild sleeping pills, but don't

like the way they make me feel the next day. I have tried Tylenol PM

with success. It seems to work the best, but NOW....I think I have hit

on something that works for me. Like many of you...I have found that

mindless droning...like what you get with the news....puts me right to

sleep and keeps me there. Unfortunately, I don't have the luxury of

being able to turn on the TV during the night when I wake up....because

it disturbs my husband who HAS to be up by 4:30 am. So, when I commented

to him that I wish I could listen to the news WITHOUT the tv on....he

got an idea. We bought little tiny Sony ear phones (they fit just in the

ear) and a slightly longer " wire " (I can't think what else to call it)

so I can plug the ear phones into my clock radio and I listen to a news

station. I only stick one phone in the ear that I am NOT laying on and

now it takes about 5 min for me to fall asleep. I don't have to use the

alarm portion of my clock radio so I just leave it on all the time. If I

should wake up in the middle of the night and the ear phone has fallen

out...I just plug it back into the ear and I am off in lala land once

again. Every NOW and then I have to use my alarm, I just use the snooze

button and that works ok too. I just hit snooze if I wake up in the

middle of the night. I also use an eye mask as ANY light will wake me

up...even the light from the clock radios. I have to say that

occassionally I wish I could stay up long enough to listen to what ever

it is that is being discussed on the radio, but since I have started

this...it just doesn't happen. Which is good as I feel much better now

that I am getting some sleep.

Debbie in Gig Harbor

Original RNY Jan 22, 1999

Dr. Weber

Seattle, WA

Revision Feb. 16, 2001

170cm bypassed

320lbs - 208

ladybostons@...

[Guest guest]

I sleep really well... For five to six hours each night. That's it. More

than that is pretty close to impossible unless I did some Herculean

physical effort the day before.

Though the past week since my plastic surgery, I've been needing 10-12

hours of sleep, growing slightly less each night as I recover.

I think my body definitely knows how much sleep it needs, and I figure

what the heck and spend the extra hours after my toddler's down and

before I go to bed moderating the chat room on AMOS. :-)

Open RNY 09/17/01 Dr. Weber 125 cm bypass

Reconstructives/plastics 07/22/02 Dr. Egrari

Start: 310, BMI 54, jeans 32, shirts 4X

Now: 145, BMI 24, jeans 10, shirts S

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