Re: PLEASE HELP I think I am being ripped of by my vender Permobile

[Guest guest]

I am so sorry to hear about your Permobile problems. I'm not sure I

understand your question so feel free to e-mail me on or off list to

clarify. As to controls on the panel... I have two ways to control

the electronic add ons on my Permobile Chairman 2K. The first is a

bar with arrows on it that sits behind the shield that carries the

toggle switch to drive the chair. The arrows control up and down on

each feature. The second control I learned about this year after

having the chair almost 5 years!If you turn on the chair then press

mode twice. Notice the red dot on the w/c picture below the power

indicator. The red dot indicates the power feature that can now

be controlled by moving the joy stick forward or backward (side to

side chooses a different power option). The power features I've had

added to my chair are a leg rest elevator, a seat elevator (raises

the seat up to 18 " above baseline), a recline feature, and a tilt

feature. All were $800 - $2000 dollar add ons that insurance

approved because of my prognosis. I did not elect to have the lights

or turn signals since I do not drive ok the street. Lavon

[Guest guest]

I am so sorry to hear about your Permobile problems. I'm not sure I

understand your question so feel free to e-mail me on or off list to

clarify. As to controls on the panel... I have two ways to control

the electronic add ons on my Permobile Chairman 2K. The first is a

bar with arrows on it that sits behind the shield that carries the

toggle switch to drive the chair. The arrows control up and down on

each feature. The second control I learned about this year after

having the chair almost 5 years!If you turn on the chair then press

mode twice. Notice the red dot on the w/c picture below the power

indicator. The red dot indicates the power feature that can now

be controlled by moving the joy stick forward or backward (side to

side chooses a different power option). The power features I've had

added to my chair are a leg rest elevator, a seat elevator (raises

the seat up to 18 " above baseline), a recline feature, and a tilt

feature. All were $800 - $2000 dollar add ons that insurance

approved because of my prognosis. I did not elect to have the lights

or turn signals since I do not drive ok the street. Lavon

[Guest guest]

I am so sorry to hear about your Permobile problems. I'm not sure I

understand your question so feel free to e-mail me on or off list to

clarify. As to controls on the panel... I have two ways to control

the electronic add ons on my Permobile Chairman 2K. The first is a

bar with arrows on it that sits behind the shield that carries the

toggle switch to drive the chair. The arrows control up and down on

each feature. The second control I learned about this year after

having the chair almost 5 years!If you turn on the chair then press

mode twice. Notice the red dot on the w/c picture below the power

indicator. The red dot indicates the power feature that can now

be controlled by moving the joy stick forward or backward (side to

side chooses a different power option). The power features I've had

added to my chair are a leg rest elevator, a seat elevator (raises

the seat up to 18 " above baseline), a recline feature, and a tilt

feature. All were $800 - $2000 dollar add ons that insurance

approved because of my prognosis. I did not elect to have the lights

or turn signals since I do not drive ok the street. Lavon

[Guest guest]

http://www.permobilusa.com/templates/startpage.aspx?id=806http://www.permobilus\

a.com/templates/startpage.aspx?id=806>

Go right to the company that makes them. - No company should treat you like

that. If you need to search for more information, just put the word Permobile

into Google search.. They will tell you everything you want to know..

Joan

PLEASE HELP I think I am being ripped of by my vender

Permobile

Is Apria the only one who carries the Permobile - chairman? They

sold me, insurance, MDA and medicare a Permobile w/c and listed it

for$37,000.00 (they said they listed it at that so medicare would

pay the required limit). Edith (on ALS site) bought one from her

vender (Apria - FL), that had a lift, a foot drop, lights, all the

reclining technology, and they listed hers for $17,000 (if I

remember correctly). I had to paid an extra $2000.00 for a lift so I

could reach things in the kitchen etc. Now, I need a footdrop

because lifting my foot off and back on the foot rest has become a

fall hazzard. I contacted (Apria - Greensboro, NC) and they said

they would install it for another $2300.00. I saved my money and

finally contacted them. About two weeks after payment, Mr. Fix-it

showed up at 8:45 PM and worked until 11:00 PM (I was told they

would be here sometime that day). When he brought my w/c back into

the house I wanted to cry. After waiting at home all day, all I got

was a poor excuse for a foot drop. Mr Fix-it added a toggle switch

next to my stearing toggle - my hand got caught between the two

toggles, propelling me and my bare feet up under the kitchen

cabinets. (scraped skin off toes, and badly brused, but lucky no

broken bones) Did I mention the toggle switch had been roughly cut

from metal capiable of cutting human skin? He attached the toggle,

to the chair, with stiff tape - the corners of the tape rolled up on

the edges picking my PJ's and other clothes. Around the taped he

added an electical wire. My foot plate was wobbly and was about two

inches lower (cutting off cerculation to my legs). All this for

only $2300,00. Both my husband and myself pitched a fit! I told

them to come take the junk off and refund my money. They showed up

with a loner chair - said it would take a week - Mr. Fix-it only

took two hours to put it on.

I know the foot drop can be put on the panel, without a toggle, tape

or electrical wire, because Edith has one. I told the rep; and he

said that they had contacted the manufactor who said it couldn't be

done. When I had the lift added they put that on the panel - AFTER

they swore they couldn't do that either.

Now, about the loner chair - it still smells like a heavy-duty bug

spray (after having it for three days, washing it, and letting it

air on the porch). The w/c has no padding except for the cover.

Coming off the ramp it pitches forward, lifting off the back

wheel's, like it's going to pitch forward or throw me out of my

seat. The seat itself is 20 inches long, I'm 5'4, my legs go

straight out (pain from my neck to my toes).

My question is - does Edith have the only chair made by Permobile

that has a lift, a drop, a recline, and lights on one panel?

Acording to Apria NC I have to prove that it can be done.

Thank you for tolerating my bad mood. I would DEEPLY, DEEPLY

appreciate anyone who could send, or email me any info., a copy of

the control panel and how it works to move the foot drop, or

anything else. Apria needs it, please tell me it's possible!

Thank you,

Donna I.

[Guest guest]

Donna,

I would immediately contact your insurance company, Medicare and MDA and

send them a copy of your posting and report them as fraudulent. Permobile

lists all of their prices on their website and you are being ripped off.

Gene

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>Is Apria the only one who carries the Permobile - chairman? They

>sold me, insurance, MDA and medicare a Permobile w/c and listed it

>for$37,000.00 (they said they listed it at that so medicare would

>pay the required limit). Edith (on ALS site) bought one from her

>vender (Apria - FL), that had a lift, a foot drop, lights, all the

>reclining technology, and they listed hers for $17,000 (if I

>remember correctly). I had to paid an extra $2000.00 for a lift so I

>could reach things in the kitchen etc. Now, I need a footdrop

>because lifting my foot off and back on the foot rest has become a

>fall hazzard. I contacted (Apria - Greensboro, NC) and they said

>they would install it for another $2300.00. I saved my money and

>finally contacted them. About two weeks after payment, Mr. Fix-it

>showed up at 8:45 PM and worked until 11:00 PM (I was told they

>would be here sometime that day). When he brought my w/c back into

>the house I wanted to cry. After waiting at home all day, all I got

>was a poor excuse for a foot drop. Mr Fix-it added a toggle switch

>next to my stearing toggle - my hand got caught between the two

>toggles, propelling me and my bare feet up under the kitchen

>cabinets. (scraped skin off toes, and badly brused, but lucky no

>broken bones) Did I mention the toggle switch had been roughly cut

>from metal capiable of cutting human skin? He attached the toggle,

>to the chair, with stiff tape - the corners of the tape rolled up on

>the edges picking my PJ's and other clothes. Around the taped he

>added an electical wire. My foot plate was wobbly and was about two

>inches lower (cutting off cerculation to my legs). All this for

>only $2300,00. Both my husband and myself pitched a fit! I told

>them to come take the junk off and refund my money. They showed up

>with a loner chair - said it would take a week - Mr. Fix-it only

>took two hours to put it on.

>I know the foot drop can be put on the panel, without a toggle, tape

>or electrical wire, because Edith has one. I told the rep; and he

>said that they had contacted the manufactor who said it couldn't be

>done. When I had the lift added they put that on the panel - AFTER

>they swore they couldn't do that either.

>Now, about the loner chair - it still smells like a heavy-duty bug

>spray (after having it for three days, washing it, and letting it

>air on the porch). The w/c has no padding except for the cover.

>Coming off the ramp it pitches forward, lifting off the back

>wheel's, like it's going to pitch forward or throw me out of my

>seat. The seat itself is 20 inches long, I'm 5'4, my legs go

>straight out (pain from my neck to my toes).

>My question is - does Edith have the only chair made by Permobile

>that has a lift, a drop, a recline, and lights on one panel?

>Acording to Apria NC I have to prove that it can be done.

>Thank you for tolerating my bad mood. I would DEEPLY, DEEPLY

>appreciate anyone who could send, or email me any info., a copy of

>the control panel and how it works to move the foot drop, or

>anything else. Apria needs it, please tell me it's possible!

>Thank you,

>Donna I.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Your problem isn't Permobile...It's Apria. Apria is always a problem

supplier for me. Rude, ineffective service, always short on time,

skill and knowledgeable service.

I have a Permobile chairman and have everything but the foot drop

auomation. I use a dressing stick to lift the foot rests up and down.

Did you get Medicare to pay for the seat elevator? I did!

http://spoilingaunty.tripod.com/id18.html

Did Apria submit the auto foot drop to Medicare? Under the same

rules Medicare should pay for your footrests... " Medically necessary "

and " Necessary to perform daily living tasks "

Lynn

>

> http://www.permobilusa.com/templates/startpage.aspx?

id=806http://www.permobilusa.com/templates/startpage.aspx?id=806>

>

> Go right to the company that makes them. - No company should treat

you like that. If you need to search for more information, just put

the word Permobile into Google search.. They will tell you everything

you want to know..

> Joan

> PLEASE HELP I think I am being ripped of

by my vender Permobile

>

>

> Is Apria the only one who carries the Permobile - chairman? They

> sold me, insurance, MDA and medicare a Permobile w/c and listed

it

> for$37,000.00 (they said they listed it at that so medicare would

> pay the required limit). Edith (on ALS site) bought one from her

> vender (Apria - FL), that had a lift, a foot drop, lights, all

the

> reclining technology, and they listed hers for $17,000 (if I

> remember correctly). I had to paid an extra $2000.00 for a lift

so I

> could reach things in the kitchen etc. Now, I need a footdrop

> because lifting my foot off and back on the foot rest has become

a

> fall hazzard. I contacted (Apria - Greensboro, NC) and they said

> they would install it for another $2300.00. I saved my money and

> finally contacted them. About two weeks after payment, Mr. Fix-

it

> showed up at 8:45 PM and worked until 11:00 PM (I was told they

> would be here sometime that day). When he brought my w/c back

into

> the house I wanted to cry. After waiting at home all day, all I

got

> was a poor excuse for a foot drop. Mr Fix-it added a toggle

switch

> next to my stearing toggle - my hand got caught between the two

> toggles, propelling me and my bare feet up under the kitchen

> cabinets. (scraped skin off toes, and badly brused, but lucky no

> broken bones) Did I mention the toggle switch had been roughly

cut

> from metal capiable of cutting human skin? He attached the

toggle,

> to the chair, with stiff tape - the corners of the tape rolled up

on

> the edges picking my PJ's and other clothes. Around the taped he

> added an electical wire. My foot plate was wobbly and was about

two

> inches lower (cutting off cerculation to my legs). All this for

> only $2300,00. Both my husband and myself pitched a fit! I told

> them to come take the junk off and refund my money. They showed

up

> with a loner chair - said it would take a week - Mr. Fix-it only

> took two hours to put it on.

> I know the foot drop can be put on the panel, without a toggle,

tape

> or electrical wire, because Edith has one. I told the rep; and

he

> said that they had contacted the manufactor who said it couldn't

be

> done. When I had the lift added they put that on the panel -

AFTER

> they swore they couldn't do that either.

> Now, about the loner chair - it still smells like a heavy-duty

bug

> spray (after having it for three days, washing it, and letting it

> air on the porch). The w/c has no padding except for the cover.

> Coming off the ramp it pitches forward, lifting off the back

> wheel's, like it's going to pitch forward or throw me out of my

> seat. The seat itself is 20 inches long, I'm 5'4, my legs go

> straight out (pain from my neck to my toes).

> My question is - does Edith have the only chair made by Permobile

> that has a lift, a drop, a recline, and lights on one panel?

> Acording to Apria NC I have to prove that it can be done.

> Thank you for tolerating my bad mood. I would DEEPLY, DEEPLY

> appreciate anyone who could send, or email me any info., a copy

of

> the control panel and how it works to move the foot drop, or

> anything else. Apria needs it, please tell me it's possible!

> Thank you,

> Donna I.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Your problem isn't Permobile...It's Apria. Apria is always a problem

supplier for me. Rude, ineffective service, always short on time,

skill and knowledgeable service.

I have a Permobile chairman and have everything but the foot drop

auomation. I use a dressing stick to lift the foot rests up and down.

Did you get Medicare to pay for the seat elevator? I did!

http://spoilingaunty.tripod.com/id18.html

Did Apria submit the auto foot drop to Medicare? Under the same

rules Medicare should pay for your footrests... " Medically necessary "

and " Necessary to perform daily living tasks "

Lynn

>

> http://www.permobilusa.com/templates/startpage.aspx?

id=806http://www.permobilusa.com/templates/startpage.aspx?id=806>

>

> Go right to the company that makes them. - No company should treat

you like that. If you need to search for more information, just put

the word Permobile into Google search.. They will tell you everything

you want to know..

> Joan

> PLEASE HELP I think I am being ripped of

by my vender Permobile

>

>

> Is Apria the only one who carries the Permobile - chairman? They

> sold me, insurance, MDA and medicare a Permobile w/c and listed

it

> for$37,000.00 (they said they listed it at that so medicare would

> pay the required limit). Edith (on ALS site) bought one from her

> vender (Apria - FL), that had a lift, a foot drop, lights, all

the

> reclining technology, and they listed hers for $17,000 (if I

> remember correctly). I had to paid an extra $2000.00 for a lift

so I

> could reach things in the kitchen etc. Now, I need a footdrop

> because lifting my foot off and back on the foot rest has become

a

> fall hazzard. I contacted (Apria - Greensboro, NC) and they said

> they would install it for another $2300.00. I saved my money and

> finally contacted them. About two weeks after payment, Mr. Fix-

it

> showed up at 8:45 PM and worked until 11:00 PM (I was told they

> would be here sometime that day). When he brought my w/c back

into

> the house I wanted to cry. After waiting at home all day, all I

got

> was a poor excuse for a foot drop. Mr Fix-it added a toggle

switch

> next to my stearing toggle - my hand got caught between the two

> toggles, propelling me and my bare feet up under the kitchen

> cabinets. (scraped skin off toes, and badly brused, but lucky no

> broken bones) Did I mention the toggle switch had been roughly

cut

> from metal capiable of cutting human skin? He attached the

toggle,

> to the chair, with stiff tape - the corners of the tape rolled up

on

> the edges picking my PJ's and other clothes. Around the taped he

> added an electical wire. My foot plate was wobbly and was about

two

> inches lower (cutting off cerculation to my legs). All this for

> only $2300,00. Both my husband and myself pitched a fit! I told

> them to come take the junk off and refund my money. They showed

up

> with a loner chair - said it would take a week - Mr. Fix-it only

> took two hours to put it on.

> I know the foot drop can be put on the panel, without a toggle,

tape

> or electrical wire, because Edith has one. I told the rep; and

he

> said that they had contacted the manufactor who said it couldn't

be

> done. When I had the lift added they put that on the panel -

AFTER

> they swore they couldn't do that either.

> Now, about the loner chair - it still smells like a heavy-duty

bug

> spray (after having it for three days, washing it, and letting it

> air on the porch). The w/c has no padding except for the cover.

> Coming off the ramp it pitches forward, lifting off the back

> wheel's, like it's going to pitch forward or throw me out of my

> seat. The seat itself is 20 inches long, I'm 5'4, my legs go

> straight out (pain from my neck to my toes).

> My question is - does Edith have the only chair made by Permobile

> that has a lift, a drop, a recline, and lights on one panel?

> Acording to Apria NC I have to prove that it can be done.

> Thank you for tolerating my bad mood. I would DEEPLY, DEEPLY

> appreciate anyone who could send, or email me any info., a copy

of

> the control panel and how it works to move the foot drop, or

> anything else. Apria needs it, please tell me it's possible!

> Thank you,

> Donna I.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Your problem isn't Permobile...It's Apria. Apria is always a problem

supplier for me. Rude, ineffective service, always short on time,

skill and knowledgeable service.

I have a Permobile chairman and have everything but the foot drop

auomation. I use a dressing stick to lift the foot rests up and down.

Did you get Medicare to pay for the seat elevator? I did!

http://spoilingaunty.tripod.com/id18.html

Did Apria submit the auto foot drop to Medicare? Under the same

rules Medicare should pay for your footrests... " Medically necessary "

and " Necessary to perform daily living tasks "

Lynn

>

> http://www.permobilusa.com/templates/startpage.aspx?

id=806http://www.permobilusa.com/templates/startpage.aspx?id=806>

>

> Go right to the company that makes them. - No company should treat

you like that. If you need to search for more information, just put

the word Permobile into Google search.. They will tell you everything

you want to know..

> Joan

> PLEASE HELP I think I am being ripped of

by my vender Permobile

>

>

> Is Apria the only one who carries the Permobile - chairman? They

> sold me, insurance, MDA and medicare a Permobile w/c and listed

it

> for$37,000.00 (they said they listed it at that so medicare would

> pay the required limit). Edith (on ALS site) bought one from her

> vender (Apria - FL), that had a lift, a foot drop, lights, all

the

> reclining technology, and they listed hers for $17,000 (if I

> remember correctly). I had to paid an extra $2000.00 for a lift

so I

> could reach things in the kitchen etc. Now, I need a footdrop

> because lifting my foot off and back on the foot rest has become

a

> fall hazzard. I contacted (Apria - Greensboro, NC) and they said

> they would install it for another $2300.00. I saved my money and

> finally contacted them. About two weeks after payment, Mr. Fix-

it

> showed up at 8:45 PM and worked until 11:00 PM (I was told they

> would be here sometime that day). When he brought my w/c back

into

> the house I wanted to cry. After waiting at home all day, all I

got

> was a poor excuse for a foot drop. Mr Fix-it added a toggle

switch

> next to my stearing toggle - my hand got caught between the two

> toggles, propelling me and my bare feet up under the kitchen

> cabinets. (scraped skin off toes, and badly brused, but lucky no

> broken bones) Did I mention the toggle switch had been roughly

cut

> from metal capiable of cutting human skin? He attached the

toggle,

> to the chair, with stiff tape - the corners of the tape rolled up

on

> the edges picking my PJ's and other clothes. Around the taped he

> added an electical wire. My foot plate was wobbly and was about

two

> inches lower (cutting off cerculation to my legs). All this for

> only $2300,00. Both my husband and myself pitched a fit! I told

> them to come take the junk off and refund my money. They showed

up

> with a loner chair - said it would take a week - Mr. Fix-it only

> took two hours to put it on.

> I know the foot drop can be put on the panel, without a toggle,

tape

> or electrical wire, because Edith has one. I told the rep; and

he

> said that they had contacted the manufactor who said it couldn't

be

> done. When I had the lift added they put that on the panel -

AFTER

> they swore they couldn't do that either.

> Now, about the loner chair - it still smells like a heavy-duty

bug

> spray (after having it for three days, washing it, and letting it

> air on the porch). The w/c has no padding except for the cover.

> Coming off the ramp it pitches forward, lifting off the back

> wheel's, like it's going to pitch forward or throw me out of my

> seat. The seat itself is 20 inches long, I'm 5'4, my legs go

> straight out (pain from my neck to my toes).

> My question is - does Edith have the only chair made by Permobile

> that has a lift, a drop, a recline, and lights on one panel?

> Acording to Apria NC I have to prove that it can be done.

> Thank you for tolerating my bad mood. I would DEEPLY, DEEPLY

> appreciate anyone who could send, or email me any info., a copy

of

> the control panel and how it works to move the foot drop, or

> anything else. Apria needs it, please tell me it's possible!

> Thank you,

> Donna I.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Joan, I'll contact them.

Donna

>

> http://www.permobilusa.com/templates/startpage.aspx?

id=806http://www.permobilusa.com/templates/startpage.aspx?id=806>

>

> Go right to the company that makes them. - No company should

treat you like that. If you need to search for more information,

just put the word Permobile into Google search.. They will tell you

everything you want to know..

> Joan

> PLEASE HELP I think I am being ripped of

by my vender Permobile

>

>

> Is Apria the only one who carries the Permobile - chairman?

They

> sold me, insurance, MDA and medicare a Permobile w/c and listed

it

> for$37,000.00 (they said they listed it at that so medicare

would

> pay the required limit). Edith (on ALS site) bought one from

her

> vender (Apria - FL), that had a lift, a foot drop, lights, all

the

> reclining technology, and they listed hers for $17,000 (if I

> remember correctly). I had to paid an extra $2000.00 for a lift

so I

> could reach things in the kitchen etc. Now, I need a footdrop

> because lifting my foot off and back on the foot rest has become

a

> fall hazzard. I contacted (Apria - Greensboro, NC) and they

said

> they would install it for another $2300.00. I saved my money

and

> finally contacted them. About two weeks after payment, Mr. Fix-

it

> showed up at 8:45 PM and worked until 11:00 PM (I was told they

> would be here sometime that day). When he brought my w/c back

into

> the house I wanted to cry. After waiting at home all day, all I

got

> was a poor excuse for a foot drop. Mr Fix-it added a toggle

switch

> next to my stearing toggle - my hand got caught between the two

> toggles, propelling me and my bare feet up under the kitchen

> cabinets. (scraped skin off toes, and badly brused, but lucky no

> broken bones) Did I mention the toggle switch had been roughly

cut

> from metal capiable of cutting human skin? He attached the

toggle,

> to the chair, with stiff tape - the corners of the tape rolled

up on

> the edges picking my PJ's and other clothes. Around the taped

he

> added an electical wire. My foot plate was wobbly and was about

two

> inches lower (cutting off cerculation to my legs). All this for

> only $2300,00. Both my husband and myself pitched a fit! I

told

> them to come take the junk off and refund my money. They showed

up

> with a loner chair - said it would take a week - Mr. Fix-it only

> took two hours to put it on.

> I know the foot drop can be put on the panel, without a toggle,

tape

> or electrical wire, because Edith has one. I told the rep; and

he

> said that they had contacted the manufactor who said it couldn't

be

> done. When I had the lift added they put that on the panel -

AFTER

> they swore they couldn't do that either.

> Now, about the loner chair - it still smells like a heavy-duty

bug

> spray (after having it for three days, washing it, and letting

it

> air on the porch). The w/c has no padding except for the

cover.

> Coming off the ramp it pitches forward, lifting off the back

> wheel's, like it's going to pitch forward or throw me out of my

> seat. The seat itself is 20 inches long, I'm 5'4, my legs go

> straight out (pain from my neck to my toes).

> My question is - does Edith have the only chair made by

Permobile

> that has a lift, a drop, a recline, and lights on one panel?

> Acording to Apria NC I have to prove that it can be done.

> Thank you for tolerating my bad mood. I would DEEPLY, DEEPLY

> appreciate anyone who could send, or email me any info., a copy

of

> the control panel and how it works to move the foot drop, or

> anything else. Apria needs it, please tell me it's possible!

> Thank you,

> Donna I.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Joan, I'll contact them.

Donna

>

> http://www.permobilusa.com/templates/startpage.aspx?

id=806http://www.permobilusa.com/templates/startpage.aspx?id=806>

>

> Go right to the company that makes them. - No company should

treat you like that. If you need to search for more information,

just put the word Permobile into Google search.. They will tell you

everything you want to know..

> Joan

> PLEASE HELP I think I am being ripped of

by my vender Permobile

>

>

> Is Apria the only one who carries the Permobile - chairman?

They

> sold me, insurance, MDA and medicare a Permobile w/c and listed

it

> for$37,000.00 (they said they listed it at that so medicare

would

> pay the required limit). Edith (on ALS site) bought one from

her

> vender (Apria - FL), that had a lift, a foot drop, lights, all

the

> reclining technology, and they listed hers for $17,000 (if I

> remember correctly). I had to paid an extra $2000.00 for a lift

so I

> could reach things in the kitchen etc. Now, I need a footdrop

> because lifting my foot off and back on the foot rest has become

a

> fall hazzard. I contacted (Apria - Greensboro, NC) and they

said

> they would install it for another $2300.00. I saved my money

and

> finally contacted them. About two weeks after payment, Mr. Fix-

it

> showed up at 8:45 PM and worked until 11:00 PM (I was told they

> would be here sometime that day). When he brought my w/c back

into

> the house I wanted to cry. After waiting at home all day, all I

got

> was a poor excuse for a foot drop. Mr Fix-it added a toggle

switch

> next to my stearing toggle - my hand got caught between the two

> toggles, propelling me and my bare feet up under the kitchen

> cabinets. (scraped skin off toes, and badly brused, but lucky no

> broken bones) Did I mention the toggle switch had been roughly

cut

> from metal capiable of cutting human skin? He attached the

toggle,

> to the chair, with stiff tape - the corners of the tape rolled

up on

> the edges picking my PJ's and other clothes. Around the taped

he

> added an electical wire. My foot plate was wobbly and was about

two

> inches lower (cutting off cerculation to my legs). All this for

> only $2300,00. Both my husband and myself pitched a fit! I

told

> them to come take the junk off and refund my money. They showed

up

> with a loner chair - said it would take a week - Mr. Fix-it only

> took two hours to put it on.

> I know the foot drop can be put on the panel, without a toggle,

tape

> or electrical wire, because Edith has one. I told the rep; and

he

> said that they had contacted the manufactor who said it couldn't

be

> done. When I had the lift added they put that on the panel -

AFTER

> they swore they couldn't do that either.

> Now, about the loner chair - it still smells like a heavy-duty

bug

> spray (after having it for three days, washing it, and letting

it

> air on the porch). The w/c has no padding except for the

cover.

> Coming off the ramp it pitches forward, lifting off the back

> wheel's, like it's going to pitch forward or throw me out of my

> seat. The seat itself is 20 inches long, I'm 5'4, my legs go

> straight out (pain from my neck to my toes).

> My question is - does Edith have the only chair made by

Permobile

> that has a lift, a drop, a recline, and lights on one panel?

> Acording to Apria NC I have to prove that it can be done.

> Thank you for tolerating my bad mood. I would DEEPLY, DEEPLY

> appreciate anyone who could send, or email me any info., a copy

of

> the control panel and how it works to move the foot drop, or

> anything else. Apria needs it, please tell me it's possible!

> Thank you,

> Donna I.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Lavon, THANK YOU! That is what I was looking for. Apria said they

had to add a second toggle and I knew better. Your chair is just

like mine - they can put the foot rest lift in the part where you

guide the chair - you gave me what I needed. Thank you so much.

Donna

>

> I am so sorry to hear about your Permobile problems. I'm not sure

I

> understand your question so feel free to e-mail me on or off list

to

> clarify. As to controls on the panel... I have two ways to

control

> the electronic add ons on my Permobile Chairman 2K. The first is

a

> bar with arrows on it that sits behind the shield that carries the

> toggle switch to drive the chair. The arrows control up and down

on

> each feature. The second control I learned about this year after

> having the chair almost 5 years!If you turn on the chair then

press

> mode twice. Notice the red dot on the w/c picture below the power

> indicator. The red dot indicates the power feature that can

now

> be controlled by moving the joy stick forward or backward (side to

> side chooses a different power option). The power features I've

had

> added to my chair are a leg rest elevator, a seat elevator (raises

> the seat up to 18 " above baseline), a recline feature, and a tilt

> feature. All were $800 - $2000 dollar add ons that insurance

> approved because of my prognosis. I did not elect to have the

lights

> or turn signals since I do not drive ok the street. Lavon

>