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There are lots of them. Just go to the Yahoo groups home page

(www.yahoogroups.com) and in " Find a Group " put Multiple Sclerosis (if

you just put MS you will get lots of irrelevant stuff for Microsoft etc).

Read through the descriptions and find one/some that suit your

particular ethos. mscured is apparently a very good one from what I

have read assuming you want to take an active part in trying to improve

and even eliminate symptoms.

C

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> Went to the MDA clinic today for a follow-up appointment and left with

> my head spinning in doubt. Various topics were discussed that had never

> been addressed before since being dx PLS November 2002. Now some more

> tests are being scheduled this month. Anyway, my question is there a

> site like PLS-FRIENDS for MS and if so, please forward it direct and

> thanks to all of you good people.

>

> Norton

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Hey

They did a spinal tap on me for MS and it came back

perfectly clean ,no growths or bacteria, banding was good ,whatever

that means GEO

>

> Went to the MDA clinic today for a follow-up appointment and left

with

> my head spinning in doubt. Various topics were discussed that had

never

> been addressed before since being dx PLS November 2002. Now some

more

> tests are being scheduled this month. Anyway, my question is

there a

> site like PLS-FRIENDS for MS and if so, please forward it direct

and

> thanks to all of you good people.

>

> Norton

>

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I had a dx of Chronic-Progressive MS for 10 years before I

found a neuro who recognized that without plaque on the

brain or brainstem, you don't have MS. My 7th & 8th MRI at

an MS clinic finally got me a PLS dx. That change got me off

of immunosuppressant drugs (Imuran) daily and steroids (1gm

IV Solu-medrol)every three weeks. I now take Valium (5mg)

three times a day for spasticity. That's it!

Vaughn

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In my research last night, 10% of MS dxs show negative results from the

spinal tap. What ever that means?

Vaughn, may I ask, are your abilities near normal now that your meds are

virtually none?

Norton

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,

I had a dx of Chronic-Progressive MS for 10 years before I

found a neuro who recognized that without plaque on the

brain or brainstem, you don't have MS. My 7th & 8th MRI at

an MS clinic finally got me a PLS dx. That change got me off

of immunosuppressant drugs (Imuran) daily and steroids (1gm

IV Solu-medrol)every three weeks. I now take Valium (5mg)

three times a day for spasticity. That's it!

Vaughn

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& all newbie's:

I have had PLS for over 30 years, dx in 1986. After 2 1/2 years of trying to

find out what was wrong, I was able to finally find a neuro who knew what PLS

was. Shortly after that memorable day, I went to the MDA, and they sent me to

another neuro, who said I did not have PLS I had MS (he said this without any

testing). I made my mind up that day, that I would accept the dx of PLS, and

accept the fact that there is no cure or treatment for this disease, and to try

to live my life to the best of my ability, and so far so good. Yes, there has

been and I am sure there will be in the future hurdles to cross, but I will deal

with it as I come to them. The best thing you can do, in my opinion, is to

listen to your body and it will tell what it can and can't do. Use your energy

to enjoy life to the best of your ability, instead of spending time running from

one doctor to another only to get the end result, PLS!!!!

Get to meet other PLSer's, that is the best medicine you can ever receive.

Remember PLS is life changing NOT life threatening. Try to stay stress free as

possible, and try to accept there are no magic cure's out there. Just have

faith that these wonderful researcher will find a cure.

Happy New Year to all!

Rita

Till next time!

Love & Hugs

******************************

Some people succeed in spite of their handicap.

Others succeed because of them.

RE: MS vs PLS

,

I had a dx of Chronic-Progressive MS for 10 years before I

found a neuro who recognized that without plaque on the

brain or brainstem, you don't have MS. My 7th & 8th MRI at

an MS clinic finally got me a PLS dx. That change got me off

of immunosuppressant drugs (Imuran) daily and steroids (1gm

IV Solu-medrol)every three weeks. I now take Valium (5mg)

three times a day for spasticity. That's it!

Vaughn

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Unfortunately my abilities are far from normal, but not

nearly as bad as some. My balance is still shot - I use two

fore-arm canes. The few times I use only one (around the

house), I find it very difficult to make any adjustment in

my direction of travel. I tend to keep going until I find

something to put my other hand on, or I just stop and start

again.

My voice is nasal, but again not nearly as bad as some. If I

slow down (not difficult since I'm from TN) and concentrate

on diction, most of the time I can make myself understood.

The most problem I have is with young people. They all tend

to talk quite fast, therefore they think fast. When they

hear me, they can't make the adjustment to slow speech. With

most older people, I seldom have a problem.

My foot drop hasn't changed, particularly if I try to hurry

- which for me is a relative term. When I slow down and

concentrate on lifting my feet, I tend to do pretty good.

I have never had any pain, discounting a charley horse from

stretching when I first wake up. A big ol' charley horse in

the calf of ones leg sure does make it slow in getting to

the floor to press down the front of my foot.

I really haven't progressed very much in the last 10 years.

In fact, my startle reflex has improved to the point I have

started shooting again - guns that is. I can go to the

shooting range and the only thing that bothers me is a .44

magnum right beside me. That would make a corpse jump.

Good luck on getting a definite dx. I have gone through six

neuro's since '96, and am about to change again. I went to

my current one last week for the first time in about three

years. I only went to try to find someone to test me for a

baclofen pump. So far no luck here in Knoxville.

Just hang in there, . The name doesn't really matter as

long as the symptoms can be treated (improved).

Vaughn

> RE: MS vs PLS

>

> In my research last night, 10% of MS dxs show negative

> results from the spinal tap. What ever that means?

>

> Vaughn, may I ask, are your abilities near normal now that

> your meds are virtually none?

>

> Norton

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Basically it means that spinal taps are not a particularly good

indicator of MS on their own. The things they are looking for in a

spinal tap for MS (oligoclonal bands) don't exist in 5 - 10% of people

who have MS and do appear in up to 100% of people with other conditions

(eg. herpes simplex encephalitis). So existence or otherwise of the

bands on its own is not a good indicator of MS.

Can I please ask you something as a fellow long term member of

PLS-FRIENDS? If your diagnosis is changed to MS it is almost certain

that your neuro(s) will push very hard to get you onto one of the CRAB

drugs (they will usually refer to them as the ABCR drugs but people who

have suffered their often horrific side effects soon come to know them

as the CRAB drugs). CRAB = Copaxone Rebif Avonex Betaseron, four

different drugs used to 'treat' MS.

All I ask is that before you let them talk you into one of them please

research very carefully into the supposed benefits of each versus the

often very significant side effects. On the lowdosenaltrexone Yahoo

group (one well worth joining, especially if you do turn out to have MS

as the majority of people on it have MS) I see emails from many people

saying they wish they had never ever taken them because they did more

harm long term than good.

C

Norton wrote:

> In my research last night, 10% of MS dxs show negative results from the

> spinal tap. What ever that means?

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Not for nothing, but I would sue the crap out of the MD that Dx'd and treated

you for MS. I'm am not a pro lawsuit kind of guy most of the time. I've never

heard of someone going that long misdiagnosed and mismanaged. To be on

immunosuppresants for that long unnecessarily is in my opinion malpractice. I

thought the plaque on the MRI or CT was required in order to dx MS. Danny

Vaughn vhickman35@...> wrote: ,

I had a dx of Chronic-Progressive MS for 10 years before I

found a neuro who recognized that without plaque on the

brain or brainstem, you don't have MS. My 7th & 8th MRI at

an MS clinic finally got me a PLS dx. That change got me off

of immunosuppressant drugs (Imuran) daily and steroids (1gm

IV Solu-medrol)every three weeks. I now take Valium (5mg)

three times a day for spasticity. That's it!

Vaughn

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Have you tried a 4 wheeled walker instead of the forearm canes. The type with

the built in seat and hand brakes. You might find getting around easier. Just a

thought. Danny

Vaughn vhickman35@...> wrote: ,

Unfortunately my abilities are far from normal, but not

nearly as bad as some. My balance is still shot - I use two

fore-arm canes. The few times I use only one (around the

house), I find it very difficult to make any adjustment in

my direction of travel. I tend to keep going until I find

something to put my other hand on, or I just stop and start

again.

My voice is nasal, but again not nearly as bad as some. If I

slow down (not difficult since I'm from TN) and concentrate

on diction, most of the time I can make myself understood.

The most problem I have is with young people. They all tend

to talk quite fast, therefore they think fast. When they

hear me, they can't make the adjustment to slow speech. With

most older people, I seldom have a problem.

My foot drop hasn't changed, particularly if I try to hurry

- which for me is a relative term. When I slow down and

concentrate on lifting my feet, I tend to do pretty good.

I have never had any pain, discounting a charley horse from

stretching when I first wake up. A big ol' charley horse in

the calf of ones leg sure does make it slow in getting to

the floor to press down the front of my foot.

I really haven't progressed very much in the last 10 years.

In fact, my startle reflex has improved to the point I have

started shooting again - guns that is. I can go to the

shooting range and the only thing that bothers me is a .44

magnum right beside me. That would make a corpse jump.

Good luck on getting a definite dx. I have gone through six

neuro's since '96, and am about to change again. I went to

my current one last week for the first time in about three

years. I only went to try to find someone to test me for a

baclofen pump. So far no luck here in Knoxville.

Just hang in there, . The name doesn't really matter as

long as the symptoms can be treated (improved).

Vaughn

> RE: MS vs PLS

>

> In my research last night, 10% of MS dxs show negative

> results from the spinal tap. What ever that means?

>

> Vaughn, may I ask, are your abilities near normal now that

> your meds are virtually none?

>

> Norton

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I agree with Danny that a walker would be much much better than the

crutches. I can only think you would walk really slow with them and

they would be so cumbersome. A walker will glide you along easily

where ever you want to go.

Maureen (Australia)

,

>

> Unfortunately my abilities are far from normal, but not

> nearly as bad as some. My balance is still shot - I use two

> fore-arm canes. The few times I use only one (around the

> house), I find it very difficult to make any adjustment in

> my direction of travel. I tend to keep going until I find

> something to put my other hand on, or I just stop and start

> again.

>

> My voice is nasal, but again not nearly as bad as some. If I

> slow down (not difficult since I'm from TN) and concentrate

> on diction, most of the time I can make myself understood.

> The most problem I have is with young people. They all tend

> to talk quite fast, therefore they think fast. When they

> hear me, they can't make the adjustment to slow speech. With

> most older people, I seldom have a problem.

>

> My foot drop hasn't changed, particularly if I try to hurry

> - which for me is a relative term. When I slow down and

> concentrate on lifting my feet, I tend to do pretty good.

>

> I have never had any pain, discounting a charley horse from

> stretching when I first wake up. A big ol' charley horse in

> the calf of ones leg sure does make it slow in getting to

> the floor to press down the front of my foot.

>

> I really haven't progressed very much in the last 10 years.

> In fact, my startle reflex has improved to the point I have

> started shooting again - guns that is. I can go to the

> shooting range and the only thing that bothers me is a .44

> magnum right beside me. That would make a corpse jump.

>

> Good luck on getting a definite dx. I have gone through six

> neuro's since '96, and am about to change again. I went to

> my current one last week for the first time in about three

> years. I only went to try to find someone to test me for a

> baclofen pump. So far no luck here in Knoxville.

>

> Just hang in there, . The name doesn't really matter as

> long as the symptoms can be treated (improved).

>

> Vaughn

>

> > RE: MS vs PLS

> >

> > In my research last night, 10% of MS dxs show negative

> > results from the spinal tap. What ever that means?

> >

> > Vaughn, may I ask, are your abilities near normal now that

>

> > your meds are virtually none?

> >

> > Norton

>

>

>

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