Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 NICE > > http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/benzdata.html > Just wanted to point out this data from the FDA. It list soft drinks > and their concentration of benzene. Benzene is very toxic and causes > cancer. Crystal Light is also listed and it is rather high in benzene. > For your information Crystal Light is nothing but ascorbic acid > (Vitamin C), aspartame (sweetener), citric acid for orange or lemon > flavored mixes, food flavorings, food colors, anti fungal and anti > microbial agents, and anti caking agents. > The 3 main ingredients can be found in drug and grocery > stores. www.lorainnoils.com offers tons of flavorings. Perhaps it > is time to mix your own. Get water add some vitamin c, splenda, and > a few drops of some flavor. > Katharina > _________________________________________________________________ > Shop for German things: www.GermanPlaza.com > German Corner, our main site: www.GermanCorner.com > Heritage and History Site: www.GermanHeritage.com > _________________________________________________________________ > German Corner, P.O. Box 70, Keno OR 97627-0070 USA > Phone: Fax: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 I drink a diet drink rarely. I am trying to concentrate on water. I squeeze some lemon (here in CA there is always someone trying to get rid of lemons from their tree). I heard lemon also helps in prevent kidney stones. Katharina davitt@...> wrote: http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/benzdata.html Just wanted to point out this data from the FDA. It list soft drinks and their concentration of benzene. Benzene is very toxic and causes cancer. Crystal Light is also listed and it is rather high in benzene. For your information Crystal Light is nothing but ascorbic acid (Vitamin C), aspartame (sweetener), citric acid for orange or lemon flavored mixes, food flavorings, food colors, anti fungal and anti microbial agents, and anti caking agents. The 3 main ingredients can be found in drug and grocery stores. www.lorainnoils.com offers tons of flavorings. Perhaps it is time to mix your own. Get water add some vitamin c, splenda, and a few drops of some flavor. Katharina __________________________________________________________ Shop for German things: www.GermanPlaza.com German Corner, our main site: www.GermanCorner.com Heritage and History Site: www.GermanHeritage.com __________________________________________________________ German Corner, P.O. Box 70, Keno OR 97627-0070 USA Phone: Fax: __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 Katharina, I just wanted to comment on your post. I went to the site and read the table about the softdrinks and other beverages and the only Crystal Light flavored mentioned was the Sunrise Orange. Katharina, I think you are unintentionally frightening people, because, though you seem so knowledgable about WLS and in so many areas, it's scary to read that you can say that " Crystal Light causes cancer " ! It scared me for a second, but if it causes cancer, it would be off the market and would be pulled from grocery stores across the United States. Sorry, but it's just my opinion.... Hugs, Cathy a butterfly in training > > http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/benzdata.html > Just wanted to point out this data from the FDA. It list soft drinks > and their concentration of benzene. Benzene is very toxic and causes > cancer. Crystal Light is also listed and it is rather high in benzene. > For your information Crystal Light is nothing but ascorbic acid > (Vitamin C), aspartame (sweetener), citric acid for orange or lemon > flavored mixes, food flavorings, food colors, anti fungal and anti > microbial agents, and anti caking agents. > The 3 main ingredients can be found in drug and grocery > stores. www.lorainnoils.com offers tons of flavorings. Perhaps it > is time to mix your own. Get water add some vitamin c, splenda, and > a few drops of some flavor. > Katharina > _________________________________________________________________ > Shop for German things: www.GermanPlaza.com > German Corner, our main site: www.GermanCorner.com > Heritage and History Site: www.GermanHeritage.com > _________________________________________________________________ > German Corner, P.O. Box 70, Keno OR 97627-0070 USA > Phone: Fax: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 30, 2006 Report Share Posted December 30, 2006 This is the latest I could find on the subject. All entries have happened in 2006: In February, 2006, an unnamed former chemist at the FDA publicly revealed that benzene may be created as part of a chemical reaction during production of soft drinks, particularly those having an orange flavor[18]. Full scale investigations immediately started at the Food Standards Agency (UK) and in Germany to reveal exactly which amounts of benzene, if any, were present, with several other organizations awaiting their findings[19]. Of equal concern, the chemist told the media that the soft drink industry and the Food and Drug Administration have known of this problem for 15 years[20], and supports himself with document copies explaining how benzene is a possible byproduct of these ingredients that exist in over a thousand soft drinks. More than extremely small trace amounts found after investigation would be of major concern, as benzene is a very aggressive carcinogen even in small amounts, and may among other things lead to leukemia. The United Kingdom's Food Standards Agency released results on March 31, 2006 for 150 beverages[5]. Its results showed 43 beverages contained benzene, four of which contained levels above the World Health Organization drinking water standards (10 ppb). These four were withdrawn from sale.[21][22] In April 2006, the Korea Food and Drug Administration (KFDA) announced that it had detected benzene in 27 out of 30 vitamin-enriched drinks on sale in South Korea. It said the detected amount of benzene – ranging from 5.7 to 87.8 ppb – was not harmful to humans but advised manufacturers of beverages containing more than 10 ppb of benzene to voluntarily recall their products.[1] In April 2006, 7up announced that they would be changing the formula of their product leaving out sodium benzoate and other laboratory-made chemicals and marketing their product as " 7Up Natural " . While healthier than its predecessor, critics charge that 7Up has no right to call the product " all-natural " as it still contains high fructose corn syrup.[23] The FDA released preliminary results[16] in May 2006 for 100 beverages showing that many soft drinks contained low levels of benzene (less than 5 ppb, the federal drinking water limit) while four drinks contained amounts above the standard. Two of these drinks contained amounts 15-18 times above the drinking water standard. Many of the products showed large variations in the amount benzene they contained. The FDA stated that it is working with manufacturers to reformulate products that contain benzene above the federal drinking water standard. These test results are both lower and more accurate than a previous long-term study by the FDA. In the Total Diet Study [24][25] that FDA conducted from 1996-2001 to determine the amounts of volatile organic compounds in various foods, FDA used an analytical procedure that caused more benzene to form in the drinks during the test[26][27]. The FDA emphasized that most beverages contain levels below 5 ppb and pose no risk to consumers. Furthermore, there are no standards for beverages beyond drinking and bottled water. A watchdog organization, the Environmental Working Group, had previously called on the FDA to release its results. The EWG also criticized the FDA for not acting on the Total Diet Study results showing the nearly 80% of the diet soft drinks exceeded the federal drinking water standards. On June 9, 2006, Health Canada released its study results of benzene levels in beverages. Four products had levels above the Canadian guideline of five micrograms per litre for benzene in drinking water. [28] On August 24, 2006, two soft drink manufacturers agreed to settle a class-action lawsuit that had been filed by a group of parents in the District of Columbia Superior Court. The two companies, Zone Brands Inc., maker of " BellyWashers " products, and TalkingRain Beverage Co., denied that their products were harmful, but agreed to change the ingredients in their drinks. > > > Katharina, > > > > > > I just wanted to comment on your post. > > > > > > I went to the site and read the table about the softdrinks and other > > > beverages and the only Crystal Light flavored mentioned was the > > > Sunrise Orange. > > > > > > Katharina, I think you are unintentionally frightening people, > > > because, though you seem so knowledgable about WLS and in so many > > > areas, it's scary to read that you can say that " Crystal Light causes > > > cancer " ! > > > > > > It scared me for a second, but if it causes cancer, it would be off > > > the market and would be pulled from grocery stores across the United > > > States. > > > > > > Sorry, but it's just my opinion.... > > > > > > Hugs, > > > Cathy > > > a butterfly in training > > > > > The lawsuit is going on now. Many workers in the soft drink plants > that use the 2 ingredients together have come down with cancer. The > problem right now is the question what is dangerous. The levels in > the dry mixed is above the law, yet it is acceptable once mixed with > water. The is just no law really covering it. The link was from the > findings of the government, not just some outsiders. That is the > scarry part for me. Also benzine is something that does not get > discarded by the body, it accumulates. Now is the question how much > is safe over what time period. My suggestion is to stay away from > products that use them, not just Crystal Light. There are so many > wonderful herbal teas and fruit extracts without the sugar. Just mix > them into water and you are way better off. We are going through so > much work of getting the surgery, starting a healthier life, and yet > we poison ourselves with all those chemicals. Let just stop the > insanity. We don't need these overpriced chemicals, because we can > do better without. Quite honest fruit and water should do. > Katharina > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Shop for German things: www.GermanPlaza.com > German Corner, our main site: www.GermanCorner.com > Heritage and History Site: www.GermanHeritage.com > _________________________________________________________________ > German Corner, P.O. Box 70, Keno OR 97627-0070 USA > Phone: Fax: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 For those without an inordinate amount of time to research could you please boil it down to a quantifiable amount of Crystal Light ingestion? Basically say something like Xoz of drink will increase your risk of cancer X% or something along those lines. While I suspect that's not possible from what I've read in your links it would be the most valuable for me to adjust my life to avoid the effects of benzene or any other things I take in. It's phrases like " very toxic " that don't help much. Mike in GR > > http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/benzdata.html > Just wanted to point out this data from the FDA. It list soft drinks > and their concentration of benzene. Benzene is very toxic and causes > cancer. Crystal Light is also listed and it is rather high in benzene. > For your information Crystal Light is nothing but ascorbic acid > (Vitamin C), aspartame (sweetener), citric acid for orange or lemon > flavored mixes, food flavorings, food colors, anti fungal and anti > microbial agents, and anti caking agents. > The 3 main ingredients can be found in drug and grocery > stores. www.lorainnoils.com offers tons of flavorings. Perhaps it > is time to mix your own. Get water add some vitamin c, splenda, and > a few drops of some flavor. > Katharina > _________________________________________________________________ > Shop for German things: www.GermanPlaza.com > German Corner, our main site: www.GermanCorner.com > Heritage and History Site: www.GermanHeritage.com > _________________________________________________________________ > German Corner, P.O. Box 70, Keno OR 97627-0070 USA > Phone: Fax: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Cathy, I didn't read it that way. I never saw anything that said Crystal Light causes cancer. There's not even anything that steps through the contents of Crystal Light at any level causing cancer at any level. I want numbers. I want to know exactly (or even a guess on) how much Crystal Light will cause what percentage increase in cancer. All that was presented was vague suppositions that maybe Crystal Light and other drinks cause cancer because they contain what is known to be a carcinogen at a " high " concentration. No numbers, no studies, no correlation. It's trite and very boring, hardly something to get excited over. Mike in GR > > > > http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/benzdata.html > > Just wanted to point out this data from the FDA. It list soft > drinks > > and their concentration of benzene. Benzene is very toxic and > causes > > cancer. Crystal Light is also listed and it is rather high in > benzene. > > For your information Crystal Light is nothing but ascorbic acid > > (Vitamin C), aspartame (sweetener), citric acid for orange or lemon > > flavored mixes, food flavorings, food colors, anti fungal and anti > > microbial agents, and anti caking agents. > > The 3 main ingredients can be found in drug and grocery > > stores. www.lorainnoils.com offers tons of flavorings. Perhaps it > > is time to mix your own. Get water add some vitamin c, splenda, > and > > a few drops of some flavor. > > Katharina > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Shop for German things: www.GermanPlaza.com > > German Corner, our main site: www.GermanCorner.com > > Heritage and History Site: www.GermanHeritage.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > > German Corner, P.O. Box 70, Keno OR 97627-0070 USA > > Phone: Fax: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Great response but if that occured with everything that was truly dangerous then there'd be no reason for people to wear tin foil hats! Mike in GR > > Katharina, > > > > I just wanted to comment on your post. > > > > I went to the site and read the table about the softdrinks and other > > beverages and the only Crystal Light flavored mentioned was the > > Sunrise Orange. > > > > Katharina, I think you are unintentionally frightening people, > > because, though you seem so knowledgable about WLS and in so many > > areas, it's scary to read that you can say that " Crystal Light causes > > cancer " ! > > > > It scared me for a second, but if it causes cancer, it would be off > > the market and would be pulled from grocery stores across the United > > States. > > > > Sorry, but it's just my opinion.... > > > > Hugs, > > Cathy > > a butterfly in training > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 Lots of stuff there but still nothing that tells me how much I can drink and how much I can't. " The FDA stated that it is working with manufacturers to reformulate products that contain benzene above the federal drinking water standard. " Maybe you could have just posted that and gotten back to us later? I'm curious. If I drink one 12oz drink that has 15-18 times the 10ppb does that mean I've increased my chance of cancer? No? Then how many of those would I need to drink? Would I have to drink some for only a day or a week or maybe a month or year(s)? Here's something to try when looking into these sorts of things. Instead of copying and pasting from a website(s) put it into Microsoft Word first and go in and remove all the countries, governments, acronyms, doctor's names, hospitals, etc. After all that's gone read it over again and see if it's nearly as impressive without all the impressive superfluous words removed. There is NOTHING in all of this " data " and sources that provides any useable information. Try again. Mike in GR > > > > Katharina, > > > > > > > > I just wanted to comment on your post. > > > > > > > > I went to the site and read the table about the softdrinks and other > > > > beverages and the only Crystal Light flavored mentioned was the > > > > Sunrise Orange. > > > > > > > > Katharina, I think you are unintentionally frightening people, > > > > because, though you seem so knowledgable about WLS and in so many > > > > areas, it's scary to read that you can say that " Crystal Light > causes > > > > cancer " ! > > > > > > > > It scared me for a second, but if it causes cancer, it would be off > > > > the market and would be pulled from grocery stores across the United > > > > States. > > > > > > > > Sorry, but it's just my opinion.... > > > > > > > > Hugs, > > > > Cathy > > > > a butterfly in training > > > > > > > > The lawsuit is going on now. Many workers in the soft drink plants > > that use the 2 ingredients together have come down with cancer. The > > problem right now is the question what is dangerous. The levels in > > the dry mixed is above the law, yet it is acceptable once mixed with > > water. The is just no law really covering it. The link was from the > > findings of the government, not just some outsiders. That is the > > scarry part for me. Also benzine is something that does not get > > discarded by the body, it accumulates. Now is the question how much > > is safe over what time period. My suggestion is to stay away from > > products that use them, not just Crystal Light. There are so many > > wonderful herbal teas and fruit extracts without the sugar. Just mix > > them into water and you are way better off. We are going through so > > much work of getting the surgery, starting a healthier life, and yet > > we poison ourselves with all those chemicals. Let just stop the > > insanity. We don't need these overpriced chemicals, because we can > > do better without. Quite honest fruit and water should do. > > Katharina > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Shop for German things: www.GermanPlaza.com > > German Corner, our main site: www.GermanCorner.com > > Heritage and History Site: www.GermanHeritage.com > > _________________________________________________________________ > > German Corner, P.O. Box 70, Keno OR 97627-0070 USA > > Phone: Fax: > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2006 Report Share Posted December 31, 2006 You mean this hat(crumbling up the tin foil) hasnt been necesary? Why didnt someone tell me this before? Donna in CO > > > Katharina, > > > > > > I just wanted to comment on your post. > > > > > > I went to the site and read the table about the softdrinks and > other > > > beverages and the only Crystal Light flavored mentioned was the > > > Sunrise Orange. > > > > > > Katharina, I think you are unintentionally frightening people, > > > because, though you seem so knowledgable about WLS and in so many > > > areas, it's scary to read that you can say that " Crystal Light > causes > > > cancer " ! > > > > > > It scared me for a second, but if it causes cancer, it would be > off > > > the market and would be pulled from grocery stores across the > United > > > States. > > > > > > Sorry, but it's just my opinion.... > > > > > > Hugs, > > > Cathy > > > a butterfly in training > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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