Re: questions about ovaric surgery

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anggymanu wrote:

> my doctor just told me he want to remove my ovarios because my cancer

> is hormono dependent, i was shocking, i have 33 years old and i was

> thinking to have a child when i finished treatment. I need moer

> information

Get a second opinion, this time from a gynecological oncologist. I,

too, have hormone receptive BC, and neither my surgeon or " regular "

oncologist are eager to remove my ovaries. I could have them removed if

I wanted, but they think that it probably wouldn't make a whole lot of

difference because I'm 44 and the chemo may have shut them down

permanently. You're still young, so your ovaries probably will recover

from chemo which is most likely your oncologist's concern.

If you are planning on having a child you need to discuss this with

your docs NOW!!! Chemo or other treatments will probably make you

sterile. It's good you are looking for information so you can make

better informed decisions.

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anggymanu wrote:

> my doctor just told me he want to remove my ovarios because my cancer

> is hormono dependent, i was shocking, i have 33 years old and i was

> thinking to have a child when i finished treatment. I need moer

> information

Get a second opinion, this time from a gynecological oncologist. I,

too, have hormone receptive BC, and neither my surgeon or " regular "

oncologist are eager to remove my ovaries. I could have them removed if

I wanted, but they think that it probably wouldn't make a whole lot of

difference because I'm 44 and the chemo may have shut them down

permanently. You're still young, so your ovaries probably will recover

from chemo which is most likely your oncologist's concern.

If you are planning on having a child you need to discuss this with

your docs NOW!!! Chemo or other treatments will probably make you

sterile. It's good you are looking for information so you can make

better informed decisions.

-Frances

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Hi!

First of all, could you give more information about your condition? Type of

cancer and stage?

Second, do not do it! If motherhood is importanto to you and you still want a

chance to bear your own children, get more information before you do such a

radical procedure.

I am 38 and I was planning children for this year. Well, I will postpone my

plans, but I will not give them up. You are younger then I am, so you have even

more chances of being able to conceive after the treatment is done. Thre are

ways to protect your ovary and keep them from producing estrogen.

There are alternatives to treat a hormone dependent cancer. You do not need to

get rid of the ovaries. And there are doctors who would disagree with this

aproach too. The ovary removal will throw you into premature menopause and,

believe me, it is awful. Sudden menopause tends to be worse than the normal one.

And there are all the health problems that menopause will bring.

There are medications which will supress your ovaries and will not definitely

put you in menopause. Zoladex is one of them. It does the same thing as the

ovary removal but you keep the ovaries.

My cancer is hormonal dependent too and I chose to remove and freeze one ovary

in case I had ovarian failure. My age played a big part on this decision. If I

were younger, I do not htink I would do it. The idea is to graft the frozen

ovarian piece into my other one to see if it would work. This is an experimental

technique, though. I wanted the other ovary in my body, hoping that after the

treatment I would have it working again. I took Zoladex for 9 months and now I

am off it, but I am taking Tamoxifen to block the estrogen. I will stick with it

for about 2 years and then, if I am ok, I will try to conceive. As of now, my

ovary looks good.

I hope all I wrote to you wasn`t confusing. I did A LOT of research in this

area, so anything, any question, you need, do not hesitate. Ask.

Don't give up on your dream of motherhood. You are young and you have time in

your favor.

Hugs

questions about ovaric surgery

my doctor just told me he want to remove my ovarios because my cancer

is hormono dependent, i was shocking, i have 33 years old and i was

thinking to have a child when i finished treatment. I need moer

information

[Guest guest]

Hi!

First of all, could you give more information about your condition? Type of

cancer and stage?

Second, do not do it! If motherhood is importanto to you and you still want a

chance to bear your own children, get more information before you do such a

radical procedure.

I am 38 and I was planning children for this year. Well, I will postpone my

plans, but I will not give them up. You are younger then I am, so you have even

more chances of being able to conceive after the treatment is done. Thre are

ways to protect your ovary and keep them from producing estrogen.

There are alternatives to treat a hormone dependent cancer. You do not need to

get rid of the ovaries. And there are doctors who would disagree with this

aproach too. The ovary removal will throw you into premature menopause and,

believe me, it is awful. Sudden menopause tends to be worse than the normal one.

And there are all the health problems that menopause will bring.

There are medications which will supress your ovaries and will not definitely

put you in menopause. Zoladex is one of them. It does the same thing as the

ovary removal but you keep the ovaries.

My cancer is hormonal dependent too and I chose to remove and freeze one ovary

in case I had ovarian failure. My age played a big part on this decision. If I

were younger, I do not htink I would do it. The idea is to graft the frozen

ovarian piece into my other one to see if it would work. This is an experimental

technique, though. I wanted the other ovary in my body, hoping that after the

treatment I would have it working again. I took Zoladex for 9 months and now I

am off it, but I am taking Tamoxifen to block the estrogen. I will stick with it

for about 2 years and then, if I am ok, I will try to conceive. As of now, my

ovary looks good.

I hope all I wrote to you wasn`t confusing. I did A LOT of research in this

area, so anything, any question, you need, do not hesitate. Ask.

Don't give up on your dream of motherhood. You are young and you have time in

your favor.

Hugs

questions about ovaric surgery

my doctor just told me he want to remove my ovarios because my cancer

is hormono dependent, i was shocking, i have 33 years old and i was

thinking to have a child when i finished treatment. I need moer

information

[Guest guest]

Another thing.

Be very careful with doctors tell you. They tend to tell you to take the most

agressive treament to avoid recurrence, but they do not consider that we have

lives and dreams.

Do your research and make your decisions. Get a second, third opinion.

Don't let them decide your life for you. Only do procedures when you are

confident about them.

Sorry if I sound so strong about it, but the subject of motherhood really gets

to me.

Hugs

questions about ovaric surgery

my doctor just told me he want to remove my ovarios because my cancer

is hormono dependent, i was shocking, i have 33 years old and i was

thinking to have a child when i finished treatment. I need moer

information

[Guest guest]

Another thing.

Be very careful with doctors tell you. They tend to tell you to take the most

agressive treament to avoid recurrence, but they do not consider that we have

lives and dreams.

Do your research and make your decisions. Get a second, third opinion.

Don't let them decide your life for you. Only do procedures when you are

confident about them.

Sorry if I sound so strong about it, but the subject of motherhood really gets

to me.

Hugs

questions about ovaric surgery

my doctor just told me he want to remove my ovarios because my cancer

is hormono dependent, i was shocking, i have 33 years old and i was

thinking to have a child when i finished treatment. I need moer

information

[Guest guest]

I was 44 when I went into chemo induced menopause and never had a hot flash or

any other menopause symptom. We have to remember everyone reacts differently to

different things.

Hugs

nne

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questions about ovaric surgery

my doctor just told me he want to remove my ovarios because my cancer

is hormono dependent, i was shocking, i have 33 years old and i was

thinking to have a child when i finished treatment. I need moer

information

[Guest guest]

I was 44 when I went into chemo induced menopause and never had a hot flash or

any other menopause symptom. We have to remember everyone reacts differently to

different things.

Hugs

nne

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questions about ovaric surgery

my doctor just told me he want to remove my ovarios because my cancer

is hormono dependent, i was shocking, i have 33 years old and i was

thinking to have a child when i finished treatment. I need moer

information

[Guest guest]

Hi Anggy,

What kind of information do you want? Ask any questions and I will try to help

you the best I can.

I am stage IIb, meaning 2.3cm nodule and 2 out of 13 positive nodes. Also ER/PR

positive but HER-2 negative.

Ovarian ablation by medication has the same efficacy as by surgery and it is

reversible. I do not know if you still want to have children, but with

medication you can still have your ovaries working after the treatment is done.

And not stay in permanent premature menopause. You do not need such a radical

procedure. Ask your doctor why he wants the surgery instead of the medication.

I tend to be, and this is just my opinion, against radical proceadures if there

are other alternatives.

Also, you are HER-2 positive. That means that you can be treated with herceptin

and this will increase your chances of not having a recurrance.

So, what I am trying to say is, if you treat with chemo, radiation, zoladex

(ovarian ablation), anti-estrogen and herceptin, why have such an invasive

surgery? Check with your doctor on the need for this.

BTW, the surgery as well as the meds will throw you into premature menopause.

Although for some women menopause has no side effect, it has for the majority

and prmature menopause tends to have stronger side effects. for me, I am

counting on having a few years with no menopausal symptoms.

I hope I didn't say too much, though it is likely... :-)

Ask any questions. You can also send email in pvt if you want.

Hugs

PS. You mentioned a doctor in Peru. Do you live in South America?

Re: questions about ovaric surgery

Hi Denisse:

I have high-risk stage II/III, invasive ductal carcinoma, Her2 3+,hormono

dependent, i was checking with a friend who is a doctor in Peru and he is agree

with my oncologist, anyway my doctor wanna do that when i finished quimio that

is more or less in 6-7 months, so i have time to do reserch, if you can help me,

please do it.

Thanks, Anggy.

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