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You'll see why I put a link in, as soon as you read the article. There isn't enough space here for me to explain it, but, frankly, I couldn't have told you all these steps. Sheesh, it's a lot to remember and is probably the reason why a lot of doctors don't even measure it, but it is much more precise and definitive.

http://www.umm.edu/ency/article/003572.htm

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Hi ,Is the Schilling Test a blood test any lab can do?Haven’t heard of that one...Sue

SueThe problem here with looking only at the diet is this----If a person has autoimmune antibodies to their Intrinsic Factor in the gut, they may have a condition known as Pernicious Anemia. This means that, even though they are taking in enormous amts of the B 12. they are not processing or absorbing any of it, and never will again, more than likely. Celiac Disease is also very suggestive of this. There is blood testing for both of these conditions, i.e., antibodies. The Schilling Test is the most indicative of a B12 deficiency, as the B12 Serum Test simply isn't very showing on this one, in some people. Celiac has specific antibodies testing, and you can't consume grains, particularly wheat, rye, spelt, so on.

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Sue

You'll see why I put a link in, as soon as you read the article. There isn't enough space here for me to explain it, but, frankly, I couldn't have told you all these steps. Sheesh, it's a lot to remember and is probably the reason why a lot of doctors don't even measure it, but it is much more precise and definitive.

http://www.umm.edu/ency/article/003572.htm

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Hi ,Is the Schilling Test a blood test any lab can do?Haven’t heard of that one...Sue

SueThe problem here with looking only at the diet is this----If a person has autoimmune antibodies to their Intrinsic Factor in the gut, they may have a condition known as Pernicious Anemia. This means that, even though they are taking in enormous amts of the B 12. they are not processing or absorbing any of it, and never will again, more than likely. Celiac Disease is also very suggestive of this. There is blood testing for both of these conditions, i.e., antibodies. The Schilling Test is the most indicative of a B12 deficiency, as the B12 Serum Test simply isn't very showing on this one, in some people. Celiac has specific antibodies testing, and you can't consume grains, particularly wheat, rye, spelt, so on.

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Sue

You'll see why I put a link in, as soon as you read the article. There isn't enough space here for me to explain it, but, frankly, I couldn't have told you all these steps. Sheesh, it's a lot to remember and is probably the reason why a lot of doctors don't even measure it, but it is much more precise and definitive.

http://www.umm.edu/ency/article/003572.htm

Re: Re: New to Group

Hi ,Is the Schilling Test a blood test any lab can do?Haven’t heard of that one...Sue

SueThe problem here with looking only at the diet is this----If a person has autoimmune antibodies to their Intrinsic Factor in the gut, they may have a condition known as Pernicious Anemia. This means that, even though they are taking in enormous amts of the B 12. they are not processing or absorbing any of it, and never will again, more than likely. Celiac Disease is also very suggestive of this. There is blood testing for both of these conditions, i.e., antibodies. The Schilling Test is the most indicative of a B12 deficiency, as the B12 Serum Test simply isn't very showing on this one, in some people. Celiac has specific antibodies testing, and you can't consume grains, particularly wheat, rye, spelt, so on.

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Thanks , and yes, I see there is quite a bit to this B-12.

I have had some intestinal problems of late, along with the thyroid disease, so have been keeping my mind’s eye on B-12 and how I am doing with that...

Sue

Sue

You'll see why I put a link in, as soon as you read the article. There isn't enough space here for me to explain it, but, frankly, I couldn't have told you all these steps. Sheesh, it's a lot to remember and is probably the reason why a lot of doctors don't even measure it, but it is much more precise and definitive.

http://www.umm.edu/ency/article/003572.htm

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Thanks , and yes, I see there is quite a bit to this B-12.

I have had some intestinal problems of late, along with the thyroid disease, so have been keeping my mind’s eye on B-12 and how I am doing with that...

Sue

Sue

You'll see why I put a link in, as soon as you read the article. There isn't enough space here for me to explain it, but, frankly, I couldn't have told you all these steps. Sheesh, it's a lot to remember and is probably the reason why a lot of doctors don't even measure it, but it is much more precise and definitive.

http://www.umm.edu/ency/article/003572.htm

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Thanks , and yes, I see there is quite a bit to this B-12.

I have had some intestinal problems of late, along with the thyroid disease, so have been keeping my mind’s eye on B-12 and how I am doing with that...

Sue

Sue

You'll see why I put a link in, as soon as you read the article. There isn't enough space here for me to explain it, but, frankly, I couldn't have told you all these steps. Sheesh, it's a lot to remember and is probably the reason why a lot of doctors don't even measure it, but it is much more precise and definitive.

http://www.umm.edu/ency/article/003572.htm

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>

> Hi, I'm new to this group and learning alot. I had my first child

and

> six months later was dx w/ Grave's. I was given 300 mg PTU and

> started supplements. 5 wks later my thyroid was in normal range. My

> meds were reduced to 200mg daily. But I think I went hyper for a

> short time. Can someone tell me what to do about this muscle pain.

I

> take a small amount of zinc and that seems to help a bit. Also why

am

> I so tired. I told my MD about it and she looked at me like I was

> crazy! Thanks

>

Your symptoms actually sound hypo..you maybe on too much medication.

Do you have labs to share? How long ago was your last set of labs? How

long have you been on 200mg of PTU?

Kats3boys

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> Hi, I'm new to this group and learning alot. I had my first child

and

> six months later was dx w/ Grave's. I was given 300 mg PTU and

> started supplements. 5 wks later my thyroid was in normal range. My

> meds were reduced to 200mg daily. But I think I went hyper for a

> short time. Can someone tell me what to do about this muscle pain.

I

> take a small amount of zinc and that seems to help a bit. Also why

am

> I so tired. I told my MD about it and she looked at me like I was

> crazy! Thanks

>

Your symptoms actually sound hypo..you maybe on too much medication.

Do you have labs to share? How long ago was your last set of labs? How

long have you been on 200mg of PTU?

Kats3boys

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> Hi, I'm new to this group and learning alot. I had my first child

and

> six months later was dx w/ Grave's. I was given 300 mg PTU and

> started supplements. 5 wks later my thyroid was in normal range. My

> meds were reduced to 200mg daily. But I think I went hyper for a

> short time. Can someone tell me what to do about this muscle pain.

I

> take a small amount of zinc and that seems to help a bit. Also why

am

> I so tired. I told my MD about it and she looked at me like I was

> crazy! Thanks

>

Your symptoms actually sound hypo..you maybe on too much medication.

Do you have labs to share? How long ago was your last set of labs? How

long have you been on 200mg of PTU?

Kats3boys

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Jan welcome to the group. The waiting is the worst. Fear of the unknown. We are

all here for you. If you have any questions please ask, if you want to vent do

that too. I will keep you in my prayers.

Hugs

nne

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New to group

I am new to this group. I have not had an official diagnosis yet. On

October 18, 2006 I had an abnormal mammogram and ultrasound. The

radiologist said a biopsy would probably be recommended. The

sticulated nodule was a Level 4. Both breast are strongly suggestive

of breast carcinoma.

This is a new thing for me. It is something, I am sure, that most

people think will never be part of their own experiences in life.

Everybody else has this " thing " happen to them " .

My appointment with the specialist is coming up a week from today.

This is the longest week of my life.

Your prayers are deeply appreciated.

Jan

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Jan welcome to the group. The waiting is the worst. Fear of the unknown. We are

all here for you. If you have any questions please ask, if you want to vent do

that too. I will keep you in my prayers.

Hugs

nne

Breast Cancer Patients Soul Mates for Life

http://www.geocities.com/chucky5741/breastcancerpatients.html

BreastCancerStories.com

http://www.breastcancerstories.com/content/view/433/161/

Angel Feather Loomer

www.angelfeatherloomer.blogspot.com

Check out my other ornaments at

www.geocities.com/chucky5741/bcornament.html

Lots of info and gifts at:

www.cancerclub.com

New to group

I am new to this group. I have not had an official diagnosis yet. On

October 18, 2006 I had an abnormal mammogram and ultrasound. The

radiologist said a biopsy would probably be recommended. The

sticulated nodule was a Level 4. Both breast are strongly suggestive

of breast carcinoma.

This is a new thing for me. It is something, I am sure, that most

people think will never be part of their own experiences in life.

Everybody else has this " thing " happen to them " .

My appointment with the specialist is coming up a week from today.

This is the longest week of my life.

Your prayers are deeply appreciated.

Jan

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My payers are with you every second!

aml~Juli

>

> I am new to this group. I have not had an official diagnosis yet.

On

> October 18, 2006 I had an abnormal mammogram and ultrasound. The

> radiologist said a biopsy would probably be recommended. The

> sticulated nodule was a Level 4. Both breast are strongly

suggestive

> of breast carcinoma.

>

> This is a new thing for me. It is something, I am sure, that most

> people think will never be part of their own experiences in life.

> Everybody else has this " thing " happen to them " .

>

> My appointment with the specialist is coming up a week from today.

> This is the longest week of my life.

>

> Your prayers are deeply appreciated.

>

> Jan

>

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I learned that it helped to rearrange my thinking when it came to buffets. I

started thinking of it as I was paying for the variety, not the amount, and it

made it make more sense. Also, most of the Chinese places also sell " To Go' by

the lb. I found that if I get a to go box, get my stuff, and get it weighed and

paid for, it is usually much cheaper in the long run. I mean, a meal is 7.95,

but to go is 2.99 per lb, or even with the seafood, it's 4.50 a lb, and of

course, I can't eat even close to a pound, and this way, I can take it when I go

to. it's a great way for a win-win situation.

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Hehe " money's worth " at a buffet is a concept I've had to work on.

I've gone to a couple of buffets, chinese I think, since surgery. I

haven't gotten my money's worth in the sense that I eat only one

plate instead of three (really four since it was always overflowing).

But I make sure I eat the most expensive seafood and vegetables on

that one plate. Besides, if the cost is $6-$10 that's not such an

expensive meal for a single plate anyway. The tip is less, it's

quicker and easier to get your food, etc. Buffets are still worth it,

just in a different way. I'll admit it's tough to get away from

quantity = value.

I'm not sure what I'd do in a place like Vegas or other buffet

central location though.

Mike in GR

>

> Trust me when I tell you that it was awesome, but after having my

> WLS, there ain't no way that I could go and eat that buffet now and

> get my money's worth. We have been watching that show for about

five

> years now and it was definitely a once in a lifetime experience.

The

> food was definitely Southern, which means it had a lot of grease,

> butter and most of it was fried, and I had told my dietician that I

> was going there for my anniversary and was not going to follow the

> pre-op diet at all that day, and she told me now to worry about it.

> Lhsh@...

> American by birth,

> Saved by the grace of God

>

>

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I don't do the buffet's anymore because I don't feel like I will be getting

my money's worth anymore and I just don't need the temptation.

Lhsh@...

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Saved by the grace of God.

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The unfortunate thing about buffets is the people you are with consider it

their only meal of the day. For a person who needs to eat lots of small

meals a day - it can be a problem. I usually take a big purse and make a

sandwich or something. I at least I have a snack for later....

Mike wrote: Hehe " money's worth " at a buffet is a

concept I've had to work on.

I've gone to a couple of buffets, chinese I think, since surgery. I

haven't gotten my money's worth in the sense that I eat only one

plate instead of three (really four since it was always overflowing).

But I make sure I eat the most expensive seafood and vegetables on

that one plate. Besides, if the cost is $6-$10 that's not such an

expensive meal for a single plate anyway. The tip is less, it's

quicker and easier to get your food, etc. Buffets are still worth it,

just in a different way. I'll admit it's tough to get away from

quantity = value.

I'm not sure what I'd do in a place like Vegas or other buffet

central location though.

Mike in GR

>

> Trust me when I tell you that it was awesome, but after having my

> WLS, there ain't no way that I could go and eat that buffet now and

> get my money's worth. We have been watching that show for about

five

> years now and it was definitely a once in a lifetime experience.

The

> food was definitely Southern, which means it had a lot of grease,

> butter and most of it was fried, and I had told my dietician that I

> was going there for my anniversary and was not going to follow the

> pre-op diet at all that day, and she told me now to worry about it.

> Lhsh@...

> American by birth,

> Saved by the grace of God

>

>

>

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Welcome to the group! I have inlaws in Akron!

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goldie3434 wrote:

> hi i,m a 31 year old single mom i live in dayton,ohio i have a daughter

> age 7 and i,,m having the vertical sleeve gastric bypass

>

>

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thank you it will be nice to talk with you all and share experiences and get

support

Woodard wrote: Welcome to the group!

I have inlaws in Akron!

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goldie3434 wrote:

> hi i,m a 31 year old single mom i live in dayton,ohio i have a daughter

> age 7 and i,,m having the vertical sleeve gastric bypass

>

>

sharmin or cookie hugs and kisses much love to you

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WElcome to the group.

>

> hi i,m a 31 year old single mom i live in dayton,ohio i have a

daughter

> age 7 and i,,m having the vertical sleeve gastric bypass

>

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WElcome to the group.

>

> hi i,m a 31 year old single mom i live in dayton,ohio i have a

daughter

> age 7 and i,,m having the vertical sleeve gastric bypass

>

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Hi all,

When I joined this group I was sent an e-mail with lots of info about

adrenals. Somehow that e-mail got deleted, probably operator error.

And I wondered if one of you could send it to me again. My e-mail

address is lynnkrt2@.... Thanks. Trying to learn about all of

this.

I had a total thyroidectomy about 40 years ago. I am taking Armour

Thyroid but am still hypo. I just got my CanaryClub saliva test

results back and trying to understand them.

Lynn

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>How does one go about weaning off of T3?

>Wha are safe increments in reduction? I'm taking 25 mcg now but I did reduce by

12.5 yesterday. Was that too much? Does anyone have a protocol?

It depends why you are weaning off and what you are going to.

If you are dropping T3 and going onto Natural then this sort of

process can work well

http://thyroid-rt3.com/swapping.htm

If you are dropping T3 levels because you are suddenly on too much

because you cleared then you can drastically drop the dose and then

build up again as the reserves clear and you become hyper. I dropped

to 1/4 of the dose I had been on and built back to half dose over a

week when my RT3 resistance cleared.

If you think RT3 was caused by cortisol or ferritin and you have

sorted out the toot cause and want to see if you can come off all

thyroid treatment then I would do a VERY slow taper, maybe 5mcg a

week, 12.5 at the most. It might be worth staying on each dropped dose

for 2 weeks without dropping more.

>My B/P is running high and so are temps. I am eating like a horse to stave off

the heartburn I'm having.

That sounds like you are hyper, drop dose by half and build up again

if you get hypo

Nick

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for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

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>How does one go about weaning off of T3?

>Wha are safe increments in reduction? I'm taking 25 mcg now but I did reduce by

12.5 yesterday. Was that too much? Does anyone have a protocol?

It depends why you are weaning off and what you are going to.

If you are dropping T3 and going onto Natural then this sort of

process can work well

http://thyroid-rt3.com/swapping.htm

If you are dropping T3 levels because you are suddenly on too much

because you cleared then you can drastically drop the dose and then

build up again as the reserves clear and you become hyper. I dropped

to 1/4 of the dose I had been on and built back to half dose over a

week when my RT3 resistance cleared.

If you think RT3 was caused by cortisol or ferritin and you have

sorted out the toot cause and want to see if you can come off all

thyroid treatment then I would do a VERY slow taper, maybe 5mcg a

week, 12.5 at the most. It might be worth staying on each dropped dose

for 2 weeks without dropping more.

>My B/P is running high and so are temps. I am eating like a horse to stave off

the heartburn I'm having.

That sounds like you are hyper, drop dose by half and build up again

if you get hypo

Nick

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for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

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>How does one go about weaning off of T3?

>Wha are safe increments in reduction? I'm taking 25 mcg now but I did reduce by

12.5 yesterday. Was that too much? Does anyone have a protocol?

It depends why you are weaning off and what you are going to.

If you are dropping T3 and going onto Natural then this sort of

process can work well

http://thyroid-rt3.com/swapping.htm

If you are dropping T3 levels because you are suddenly on too much

because you cleared then you can drastically drop the dose and then

build up again as the reserves clear and you become hyper. I dropped

to 1/4 of the dose I had been on and built back to half dose over a

week when my RT3 resistance cleared.

If you think RT3 was caused by cortisol or ferritin and you have

sorted out the toot cause and want to see if you can come off all

thyroid treatment then I would do a VERY slow taper, maybe 5mcg a

week, 12.5 at the most. It might be worth staying on each dropped dose

for 2 weeks without dropping more.

>My B/P is running high and so are temps. I am eating like a horse to stave off

the heartburn I'm having.

That sounds like you are hyper, drop dose by half and build up again

if you get hypo

Nick

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for more information on RT3 and Thyroid Resistance go to

www.thyroid-rt3.com

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