Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 Sooo glad I wasn't compelled to have DS circumcised. > The other boy from our AN groups was and I saw him soon after and felt sooo > sorry for him. His Mum said she couldn't even change his nappy for a week as > it upset her sooo much. It was the father who wanted it, I don't think they > were Jews but more of a male family thing. > It makes me shiver to just think about it. > This, or rather an extreme version of this..( " circumcision is barbaric, your son/grandson will *never* recover from the trauma even though you *think* he has, etc etc... " ) is the kind of thing I get most attacked about on that IRC chat channel. I am not saying you are attacking me, , it's just something I have become very defensive about because of my experiences on the chat. It's an ingrained part of our faith and heritage, and in our long experience, babies recover extremely fast with no physical or psychological after effects. It's usually the mothers who are more distressed than the infants. A good " Mohel " (Jewish circumcision expert) will come back again and again and change the dressings until the baby is comfortable. Very often a Mohel is far more skilled than a doctor, as he does so many of these day by day. We have even had 3 adults from ex Communist Soviet Union (Georgia) who were forbidden from doing circumcision until the collapse of the Union, come to stay with us for the express purpose of having their " Bris " done at last; I was terrified I would be playing nursemaid for ages, but aside from discomfort aided by painkillers, they carried on as normal after the procedure, and didn't take to their beds even for a moment of the trip. Of course if one doesn't *have* to have it done, then why do it, but for those of us for whom it is a part of our heritage, it hurts when people regard us as barbarians. As it happens the Mohel who did Rafi's Bris, who just happened also to be the " other grandfather " and a GP as well, said he would have had to have been circumcised anyway as his foreskin was way too restrictive. I can assure those attackers on the IRC channel that Rafi will *not* need to have years of therapy to recover from the " trauma " of his Bris, about which he has long since forgotten. Ruthie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 Sooo glad I wasn't compelled to have DS circumcised. > The other boy from our AN groups was and I saw him soon after and felt sooo > sorry for him. His Mum said she couldn't even change his nappy for a week as > it upset her sooo much. It was the father who wanted it, I don't think they > were Jews but more of a male family thing. > It makes me shiver to just think about it. > This, or rather an extreme version of this..( " circumcision is barbaric, your son/grandson will *never* recover from the trauma even though you *think* he has, etc etc... " ) is the kind of thing I get most attacked about on that IRC chat channel. I am not saying you are attacking me, , it's just something I have become very defensive about because of my experiences on the chat. It's an ingrained part of our faith and heritage, and in our long experience, babies recover extremely fast with no physical or psychological after effects. It's usually the mothers who are more distressed than the infants. A good " Mohel " (Jewish circumcision expert) will come back again and again and change the dressings until the baby is comfortable. Very often a Mohel is far more skilled than a doctor, as he does so many of these day by day. We have even had 3 adults from ex Communist Soviet Union (Georgia) who were forbidden from doing circumcision until the collapse of the Union, come to stay with us for the express purpose of having their " Bris " done at last; I was terrified I would be playing nursemaid for ages, but aside from discomfort aided by painkillers, they carried on as normal after the procedure, and didn't take to their beds even for a moment of the trip. Of course if one doesn't *have* to have it done, then why do it, but for those of us for whom it is a part of our heritage, it hurts when people regard us as barbarians. As it happens the Mohel who did Rafi's Bris, who just happened also to be the " other grandfather " and a GP as well, said he would have had to have been circumcised anyway as his foreskin was way too restrictive. I can assure those attackers on the IRC channel that Rafi will *not* need to have years of therapy to recover from the " trauma " of his Bris, about which he has long since forgotten. Ruthie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 Sooo glad I wasn't compelled to have DS circumcised. > The other boy from our AN groups was and I saw him soon after and felt sooo > sorry for him. His Mum said she couldn't even change his nappy for a week as > it upset her sooo much. It was the father who wanted it, I don't think they > were Jews but more of a male family thing. > It makes me shiver to just think about it. > This, or rather an extreme version of this..( " circumcision is barbaric, your son/grandson will *never* recover from the trauma even though you *think* he has, etc etc... " ) is the kind of thing I get most attacked about on that IRC chat channel. I am not saying you are attacking me, , it's just something I have become very defensive about because of my experiences on the chat. It's an ingrained part of our faith and heritage, and in our long experience, babies recover extremely fast with no physical or psychological after effects. It's usually the mothers who are more distressed than the infants. A good " Mohel " (Jewish circumcision expert) will come back again and again and change the dressings until the baby is comfortable. Very often a Mohel is far more skilled than a doctor, as he does so many of these day by day. We have even had 3 adults from ex Communist Soviet Union (Georgia) who were forbidden from doing circumcision until the collapse of the Union, come to stay with us for the express purpose of having their " Bris " done at last; I was terrified I would be playing nursemaid for ages, but aside from discomfort aided by painkillers, they carried on as normal after the procedure, and didn't take to their beds even for a moment of the trip. Of course if one doesn't *have* to have it done, then why do it, but for those of us for whom it is a part of our heritage, it hurts when people regard us as barbarians. As it happens the Mohel who did Rafi's Bris, who just happened also to be the " other grandfather " and a GP as well, said he would have had to have been circumcised anyway as his foreskin was way too restrictive. I can assure those attackers on the IRC channel that Rafi will *not* need to have years of therapy to recover from the " trauma " of his Bris, about which he has long since forgotten. Ruthie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 Ruthie wrote: > This, or rather an extreme version of this..( " circumcision is > barbaric, your son/grandson will *never* recover from the trauma even > though you *think* he has, etc etc... " ) is the kind of thing I get > most attacked about on that IRC chat channel This is the one topic I haven't really seen discussed on this list. To be honest, I'm glad it hasn't because I hate the idea of people searching at yahoogroups for 'circumcision' and coming and wrecking this list. And people do seem to do that - absolute fanatics they are on both sides. Kill-filing them and banning them seems to make no difference - they re-invent themselves with some offensive name and wade in again. In all the years I have been around parenting newsgroups and bulletin boards, this seems to be one of the most heated topics (along with smacking) and some people, particularly newbies, get sucked in by making some perfectly innocent observation and then get it from all sides. -- Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 Ruthie wrote: > This, or rather an extreme version of this..( " circumcision is > barbaric, your son/grandson will *never* recover from the trauma even > though you *think* he has, etc etc... " ) is the kind of thing I get > most attacked about on that IRC chat channel This is the one topic I haven't really seen discussed on this list. To be honest, I'm glad it hasn't because I hate the idea of people searching at yahoogroups for 'circumcision' and coming and wrecking this list. And people do seem to do that - absolute fanatics they are on both sides. Kill-filing them and banning them seems to make no difference - they re-invent themselves with some offensive name and wade in again. In all the years I have been around parenting newsgroups and bulletin boards, this seems to be one of the most heated topics (along with smacking) and some people, particularly newbies, get sucked in by making some perfectly innocent observation and then get it from all sides. -- Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 Ruthie wrote: > This, or rather an extreme version of this..( " circumcision is > barbaric, your son/grandson will *never* recover from the trauma even > though you *think* he has, etc etc... " ) is the kind of thing I get > most attacked about on that IRC chat channel This is the one topic I haven't really seen discussed on this list. To be honest, I'm glad it hasn't because I hate the idea of people searching at yahoogroups for 'circumcision' and coming and wrecking this list. And people do seem to do that - absolute fanatics they are on both sides. Kill-filing them and banning them seems to make no difference - they re-invent themselves with some offensive name and wade in again. In all the years I have been around parenting newsgroups and bulletin boards, this seems to be one of the most heated topics (along with smacking) and some people, particularly newbies, get sucked in by making some perfectly innocent observation and then get it from all sides. -- Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 Are you saying I am a fanatic? We are only doing what our religion dictates, the same as eating kosher and keeping the sabbath as our holy day, neither of which we choose to justify from any other than the religious standpoint. Ruthie > > This, or rather an extreme version of this..( " circumcision is > > barbaric, your son/grandson will *never* recover from the trauma > even > > though you *think* he has, etc etc... " ) is the kind of thing I get > > most attacked about on that IRC chat channel > > This is the one topic I haven't really seen discussed on this list. > To be honest, I'm glad it hasn't because I hate the idea of people > searching at yahoogroups for 'circumcision' and coming and wrecking > this list. And people do seem to do that - absolute fanatics they are > on both sides. Kill-filing them and banning them seems to make no > difference - they re-invent themselves with some offensive name and > wade in again. > > In all the years I have been around parenting newsgroups and bulletin > boards, this seems to be one of the most heated topics (along with > smacking) and some people, particularly newbies, get sucked in by > making some perfectly innocent observation and then get it from all > sides. > > -- > Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 Are you saying I am a fanatic? We are only doing what our religion dictates, the same as eating kosher and keeping the sabbath as our holy day, neither of which we choose to justify from any other than the religious standpoint. Ruthie > > This, or rather an extreme version of this..( " circumcision is > > barbaric, your son/grandson will *never* recover from the trauma > even > > though you *think* he has, etc etc... " ) is the kind of thing I get > > most attacked about on that IRC chat channel > > This is the one topic I haven't really seen discussed on this list. > To be honest, I'm glad it hasn't because I hate the idea of people > searching at yahoogroups for 'circumcision' and coming and wrecking > this list. And people do seem to do that - absolute fanatics they are > on both sides. Kill-filing them and banning them seems to make no > difference - they re-invent themselves with some offensive name and > wade in again. > > In all the years I have been around parenting newsgroups and bulletin > boards, this seems to be one of the most heated topics (along with > smacking) and some people, particularly newbies, get sucked in by > making some perfectly innocent observation and then get it from all > sides. > > -- > Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 > > Are you saying I am a fanatic? > > Oh blimey Ruthie, that wasn't my intention at all. > > What I was actually trying to do was put a lid on this to make sure it > didn't blow through the blasted roof not call anybody anything. > > I'm sorry if you've taken offence. None was intended and it took me > long enoug to compose that message in a way that I hoped wouldn't be > seen as offensive. > > I'm going to bed. I've had enough of this thread already. > > -- > Sue Oh dear. I am sorry if I took it the wrong way, but I wasn't offended, only puzzled by your words. I think it may be best to change the subject. Just like on that IRC chat room, some subjects are best avoided. Ruthie :-(( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 > Are you saying I am a fanatic? Oh blimey Ruthie, that wasn't my intention at all. What I was actually trying to do was put a lid on this to make sure it didn't blow through the blasted roof not call anybody anything. I'm sorry if you've taken offence. None was intended and it took me long enoug to compose that message in a way that I hoped wouldn't be seen as offensive. I'm going to bed. I've had enough of this thread already. -- Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 > Are you saying I am a fanatic? Oh blimey Ruthie, that wasn't my intention at all. What I was actually trying to do was put a lid on this to make sure it didn't blow through the blasted roof not call anybody anything. I'm sorry if you've taken offence. None was intended and it took me long enoug to compose that message in a way that I hoped wouldn't be seen as offensive. I'm going to bed. I've had enough of this thread already. -- Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 > I read Sue's post as meaning that 'agent provocateurs' deliberately > stir up trouble by looking for controversial subjects to comment on. > I didn't take her comments as applying to us on this list at all. > > Lesley Ruthie considers herself suitably chastised !!!! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2001 Report Share Posted May 21, 2001 LOL!! :-)) Lesley --------- From: ruthie Ruthie considers herself suitably chastised !!!! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Haley, I have read a few things on the subject but am by no means the expert on circumcision. There are religious reasons to be circumcised as well as societal. The American Medical Association has gone back and forth on this subject. When I had my first child (who turned out to be a girl) I asked my ob what she suggested. She said it was a purely personal decision but the AMA currently was not recommending it or suggesting it nor were they recommending against it. It is thought that circumcisions can help prevent STDs and urinary tract infections but they also may not. I know that doesn't help you much. I don't know what I would do in your situation. It is purely personal. However when it comes to the social reasons i can understand not wanting your child to be teased. I am pretty sure most of us have been there and we dont want our child to experience it for any reason. So for that reason alone it may be worthwhile to consider it. Also many times they can use pain relievers to numb the penis before they perform the circumcision. Hope this helps somewhat. Do talk to your ob as well though and get the medical facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Haley, I have read a few things on the subject but am by no means the expert on circumcision. There are religious reasons to be circumcised as well as societal. The American Medical Association has gone back and forth on this subject. When I had my first child (who turned out to be a girl) I asked my ob what she suggested. She said it was a purely personal decision but the AMA currently was not recommending it or suggesting it nor were they recommending against it. It is thought that circumcisions can help prevent STDs and urinary tract infections but they also may not. I know that doesn't help you much. I don't know what I would do in your situation. It is purely personal. However when it comes to the social reasons i can understand not wanting your child to be teased. I am pretty sure most of us have been there and we dont want our child to experience it for any reason. So for that reason alone it may be worthwhile to consider it. Also many times they can use pain relievers to numb the penis before they perform the circumcision. Hope this helps somewhat. Do talk to your ob as well though and get the medical facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Haley, I have read a few things on the subject but am by no means the expert on circumcision. There are religious reasons to be circumcised as well as societal. The American Medical Association has gone back and forth on this subject. When I had my first child (who turned out to be a girl) I asked my ob what she suggested. She said it was a purely personal decision but the AMA currently was not recommending it or suggesting it nor were they recommending against it. It is thought that circumcisions can help prevent STDs and urinary tract infections but they also may not. I know that doesn't help you much. I don't know what I would do in your situation. It is purely personal. However when it comes to the social reasons i can understand not wanting your child to be teased. I am pretty sure most of us have been there and we dont want our child to experience it for any reason. So for that reason alone it may be worthwhile to consider it. Also many times they can use pain relievers to numb the penis before they perform the circumcision. Hope this helps somewhat. Do talk to your ob as well though and get the medical facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 We chose not to circ our son (who's now 4) for the same reasons you stated -- unnecessary pain, etc. He is able to retract his foreskin by himself and keeps himself clean. Depending on where you live and the ethnic makeup of your area, there may be just as many uncirc'd as circ'd. We figured that if our son wanted it done when he was older, he could choose to. I didn't ask my mom's opinion, since my husband and I had come to our own decision together, but she was in my hospital room when they came to take my son to circumcise him and I told them we had chosen not to. She and my grandmother threw a fit! I was shocked that they were so upset, but we had made up our minds, so I left it at that. A year ago (when my son was almost 3) my mother kept my kids for a week while I traveled to Haiti to teach music. A couple of days prior to my trip, I was speaking to her on the telephone about the arrangement and out of the clear blue she said, " Hey, can I have Isaac circumcised while he's here? " I could hardly believe it! I calmly told her that if she ever wanted to keep any of my kids again, she'd never mention the subject again. Thankfully, she hasn't. But can you believe that?!? One funny thing... my son is rather short for his age, so he occasionally finds that public toilets are j-u-s-t a bit too tall for him to stand and go peepee, but because his foreskin is stretchy, he can sometimes actually stretch it out enough to reach!! LOL Kris on 10/6/03 2:48 PM, Haley at ladybughaley@... wrote: > Okay, I know this debate has ensued on the board before. I'm not asking for > flames, but rather opinions. I am going to be a single mom (my soon to be > ex-husband does not wish to be involved with the child) and don't have a > male to offer input on my decision. Up until today (blame pregnancy > hormones if you'd like) I was anti circumcision, but I'm starting to feel > less certain. My reasons for being anti is the pain involved and the > brutality of the procedure and its roots in sexual oppression. Before my > husband and I split, his only reason to be 'pro' was so the baby would 'look > like dad'. I just don't find that to be a compelling reason (for me) to do > it. The main reason I would opt to do it is social acceptance. My family > believes that he will be teased in school and gym class for not being > circumcised. I don't want that. > > I guess the purpose of this post is to get a general consensus of who has > circumcised their son and for what reasons. I don't have a religious > opinion on this subject, so I'm looking other reasons. > > Thanks so much for your help! > Haley > Post Op RNY/March 21, 2003 > EDD December 26, 2003 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 We chose not to circ our son (who's now 4) for the same reasons you stated -- unnecessary pain, etc. He is able to retract his foreskin by himself and keeps himself clean. Depending on where you live and the ethnic makeup of your area, there may be just as many uncirc'd as circ'd. We figured that if our son wanted it done when he was older, he could choose to. I didn't ask my mom's opinion, since my husband and I had come to our own decision together, but she was in my hospital room when they came to take my son to circumcise him and I told them we had chosen not to. She and my grandmother threw a fit! I was shocked that they were so upset, but we had made up our minds, so I left it at that. A year ago (when my son was almost 3) my mother kept my kids for a week while I traveled to Haiti to teach music. A couple of days prior to my trip, I was speaking to her on the telephone about the arrangement and out of the clear blue she said, " Hey, can I have Isaac circumcised while he's here? " I could hardly believe it! I calmly told her that if she ever wanted to keep any of my kids again, she'd never mention the subject again. Thankfully, she hasn't. But can you believe that?!? One funny thing... my son is rather short for his age, so he occasionally finds that public toilets are j-u-s-t a bit too tall for him to stand and go peepee, but because his foreskin is stretchy, he can sometimes actually stretch it out enough to reach!! LOL Kris on 10/6/03 2:48 PM, Haley at ladybughaley@... wrote: > Okay, I know this debate has ensued on the board before. I'm not asking for > flames, but rather opinions. I am going to be a single mom (my soon to be > ex-husband does not wish to be involved with the child) and don't have a > male to offer input on my decision. Up until today (blame pregnancy > hormones if you'd like) I was anti circumcision, but I'm starting to feel > less certain. My reasons for being anti is the pain involved and the > brutality of the procedure and its roots in sexual oppression. Before my > husband and I split, his only reason to be 'pro' was so the baby would 'look > like dad'. I just don't find that to be a compelling reason (for me) to do > it. The main reason I would opt to do it is social acceptance. My family > believes that he will be teased in school and gym class for not being > circumcised. I don't want that. > > I guess the purpose of this post is to get a general consensus of who has > circumcised their son and for what reasons. I don't have a religious > opinion on this subject, so I'm looking other reasons. > > Thanks so much for your help! > Haley > Post Op RNY/March 21, 2003 > EDD December 26, 2003 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 We chose not to circ our son (who's now 4) for the same reasons you stated -- unnecessary pain, etc. He is able to retract his foreskin by himself and keeps himself clean. Depending on where you live and the ethnic makeup of your area, there may be just as many uncirc'd as circ'd. We figured that if our son wanted it done when he was older, he could choose to. I didn't ask my mom's opinion, since my husband and I had come to our own decision together, but she was in my hospital room when they came to take my son to circumcise him and I told them we had chosen not to. She and my grandmother threw a fit! I was shocked that they were so upset, but we had made up our minds, so I left it at that. A year ago (when my son was almost 3) my mother kept my kids for a week while I traveled to Haiti to teach music. A couple of days prior to my trip, I was speaking to her on the telephone about the arrangement and out of the clear blue she said, " Hey, can I have Isaac circumcised while he's here? " I could hardly believe it! I calmly told her that if she ever wanted to keep any of my kids again, she'd never mention the subject again. Thankfully, she hasn't. But can you believe that?!? One funny thing... my son is rather short for his age, so he occasionally finds that public toilets are j-u-s-t a bit too tall for him to stand and go peepee, but because his foreskin is stretchy, he can sometimes actually stretch it out enough to reach!! LOL Kris on 10/6/03 2:48 PM, Haley at ladybughaley@... wrote: > Okay, I know this debate has ensued on the board before. I'm not asking for > flames, but rather opinions. I am going to be a single mom (my soon to be > ex-husband does not wish to be involved with the child) and don't have a > male to offer input on my decision. Up until today (blame pregnancy > hormones if you'd like) I was anti circumcision, but I'm starting to feel > less certain. My reasons for being anti is the pain involved and the > brutality of the procedure and its roots in sexual oppression. Before my > husband and I split, his only reason to be 'pro' was so the baby would 'look > like dad'. I just don't find that to be a compelling reason (for me) to do > it. The main reason I would opt to do it is social acceptance. My family > believes that he will be teased in school and gym class for not being > circumcised. I don't want that. > > I guess the purpose of this post is to get a general consensus of who has > circumcised their son and for what reasons. I don't have a religious > opinion on this subject, so I'm looking other reasons. > > Thanks so much for your help! > Haley > Post Op RNY/March 21, 2003 > EDD December 26, 2003 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Haley, We chose to circumcise our son. It broke my heart having it done and the physical pain it causes, but to me it was never a decision. My husband and I believed it was better for to go through the procedure at 2 days old rather than an adult. We do have a friend who was curcumcized at 25 and was in so much pain for 2-3 weeks after the procedure. My Obstetrician uses an injection of Lidocaine into the penis. I am sure the shot has to hurt, and I know there was pain afterwards. But healed very quickly, and now will never have to worry about whether or not he should get circumcised when older. If we have another son, he will be circumcised as well. By the way, I am very sorry that your soon to be ex-husband feels he doesn't want to be involved with your child, what a very great loss it will be for him! Best wishes, Circumcision > Okay, I know this debate has ensued on the board before. I'm not asking for > flames, but rather opinions. I am going to be a single mom (my soon to be > ex-husband does not wish to be involved with the child) and don't have a > male to offer input on my decision. Up until today (blame pregnancy > hormones if you'd like) I was anti circumcision, but I'm starting to feel > less certain. My reasons for being anti is the pain involved and the > brutality of the procedure and its roots in sexual oppression. Before my > husband and I split, his only reason to be 'pro' was so the baby would 'look > like dad'. I just don't find that to be a compelling reason (for me) to do > it. The main reason I would opt to do it is social acceptance. My family > believes that he will be teased in school and gym class for not being > circumcised. I don't want that. > > I guess the purpose of this post is to get a general consensus of who has > circumcised their son and for what reasons. I don't have a religious > opinion on this subject, so I'm looking other reasons. > > Thanks so much for your help! > Haley > Post Op RNY/March 21, 2003 > EDD December 26, 2003 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Haley, We chose to circumcise our son. It broke my heart having it done and the physical pain it causes, but to me it was never a decision. My husband and I believed it was better for to go through the procedure at 2 days old rather than an adult. We do have a friend who was curcumcized at 25 and was in so much pain for 2-3 weeks after the procedure. My Obstetrician uses an injection of Lidocaine into the penis. I am sure the shot has to hurt, and I know there was pain afterwards. But healed very quickly, and now will never have to worry about whether or not he should get circumcised when older. If we have another son, he will be circumcised as well. By the way, I am very sorry that your soon to be ex-husband feels he doesn't want to be involved with your child, what a very great loss it will be for him! Best wishes, Circumcision > Okay, I know this debate has ensued on the board before. I'm not asking for > flames, but rather opinions. I am going to be a single mom (my soon to be > ex-husband does not wish to be involved with the child) and don't have a > male to offer input on my decision. Up until today (blame pregnancy > hormones if you'd like) I was anti circumcision, but I'm starting to feel > less certain. My reasons for being anti is the pain involved and the > brutality of the procedure and its roots in sexual oppression. Before my > husband and I split, his only reason to be 'pro' was so the baby would 'look > like dad'. I just don't find that to be a compelling reason (for me) to do > it. The main reason I would opt to do it is social acceptance. My family > believes that he will be teased in school and gym class for not being > circumcised. I don't want that. > > I guess the purpose of this post is to get a general consensus of who has > circumcised their son and for what reasons. I don't have a religious > opinion on this subject, so I'm looking other reasons. > > Thanks so much for your help! > Haley > Post Op RNY/March 21, 2003 > EDD December 26, 2003 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Haley, We chose to circumcise our son. It broke my heart having it done and the physical pain it causes, but to me it was never a decision. My husband and I believed it was better for to go through the procedure at 2 days old rather than an adult. We do have a friend who was curcumcized at 25 and was in so much pain for 2-3 weeks after the procedure. My Obstetrician uses an injection of Lidocaine into the penis. I am sure the shot has to hurt, and I know there was pain afterwards. But healed very quickly, and now will never have to worry about whether or not he should get circumcised when older. If we have another son, he will be circumcised as well. By the way, I am very sorry that your soon to be ex-husband feels he doesn't want to be involved with your child, what a very great loss it will be for him! Best wishes, Circumcision > Okay, I know this debate has ensued on the board before. I'm not asking for > flames, but rather opinions. I am going to be a single mom (my soon to be > ex-husband does not wish to be involved with the child) and don't have a > male to offer input on my decision. Up until today (blame pregnancy > hormones if you'd like) I was anti circumcision, but I'm starting to feel > less certain. My reasons for being anti is the pain involved and the > brutality of the procedure and its roots in sexual oppression. Before my > husband and I split, his only reason to be 'pro' was so the baby would 'look > like dad'. I just don't find that to be a compelling reason (for me) to do > it. The main reason I would opt to do it is social acceptance. My family > believes that he will be teased in school and gym class for not being > circumcised. I don't want that. > > I guess the purpose of this post is to get a general consensus of who has > circumcised their son and for what reasons. I don't have a religious > opinion on this subject, so I'm looking other reasons. > > Thanks so much for your help! > Haley > Post Op RNY/March 21, 2003 > EDD December 26, 2003 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Hi Haley, If we have a son, we are getting him circumcised simply because it will lessen to a great degree the likelyhood of infections, in infancy and throughout the child's life. It's a bonus that he will look like the majority of other kids in the locker room. Good luck in making your decision. Hugs Sharon Haley said: > Okay, I know this debate has ensued on the board before. I'm not asking > for > flames, but rather opinions. I am going to be a single mom (my soon to be > ex-husband does not wish to be involved with the child) and don't have a > male to offer input on my decision. Up until today (blame pregnancy > hormones if you'd like) I was anti circumcision, but I'm starting to feel > less certain. My reasons for being anti is the pain involved and the > brutality of the procedure and its roots in sexual oppression. Before my > husband and I split, his only reason to be 'pro' was so the baby would > 'look > like dad'. I just don't find that to be a compelling reason (for me) to > do > it. The main reason I would opt to do it is social acceptance. My family > believes that he will be teased in school and gym class for not being > circumcised. I don't want that. > > I guess the purpose of this post is to get a general consensus of who has > circumcised their son and for what reasons. I don't have a religious > opinion on this subject, so I'm looking other reasons. > > Thanks so much for your help! > Haley > Post Op RNY/March 21, 2003 > EDD December 26, 2003 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Hi Haley, If we have a son, we are getting him circumcised simply because it will lessen to a great degree the likelyhood of infections, in infancy and throughout the child's life. It's a bonus that he will look like the majority of other kids in the locker room. Good luck in making your decision. Hugs Sharon Haley said: > Okay, I know this debate has ensued on the board before. I'm not asking > for > flames, but rather opinions. I am going to be a single mom (my soon to be > ex-husband does not wish to be involved with the child) and don't have a > male to offer input on my decision. Up until today (blame pregnancy > hormones if you'd like) I was anti circumcision, but I'm starting to feel > less certain. My reasons for being anti is the pain involved and the > brutality of the procedure and its roots in sexual oppression. Before my > husband and I split, his only reason to be 'pro' was so the baby would > 'look > like dad'. I just don't find that to be a compelling reason (for me) to > do > it. The main reason I would opt to do it is social acceptance. My family > believes that he will be teased in school and gym class for not being > circumcised. I don't want that. > > I guess the purpose of this post is to get a general consensus of who has > circumcised their son and for what reasons. I don't have a religious > opinion on this subject, so I'm looking other reasons. > > Thanks so much for your help! > Haley > Post Op RNY/March 21, 2003 > EDD December 26, 2003 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2003 Report Share Posted October 6, 2003 Hi Haley, If we have a son, we are getting him circumcised simply because it will lessen to a great degree the likelyhood of infections, in infancy and throughout the child's life. It's a bonus that he will look like the majority of other kids in the locker room. Good luck in making your decision. Hugs Sharon Haley said: > Okay, I know this debate has ensued on the board before. I'm not asking > for > flames, but rather opinions. I am going to be a single mom (my soon to be > ex-husband does not wish to be involved with the child) and don't have a > male to offer input on my decision. Up until today (blame pregnancy > hormones if you'd like) I was anti circumcision, but I'm starting to feel > less certain. My reasons for being anti is the pain involved and the > brutality of the procedure and its roots in sexual oppression. Before my > husband and I split, his only reason to be 'pro' was so the baby would > 'look > like dad'. I just don't find that to be a compelling reason (for me) to > do > it. The main reason I would opt to do it is social acceptance. My family > believes that he will be teased in school and gym class for not being > circumcised. I don't want that. > > I guess the purpose of this post is to get a general consensus of who has > circumcised their son and for what reasons. I don't have a religious > opinion on this subject, so I'm looking other reasons. > > Thanks so much for your help! > Haley > Post Op RNY/March 21, 2003 > EDD December 26, 2003 > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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