Re: Re: levoxyl to ARMOUR

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Hi Anne. I can't tell you how much Armour to take because each person reacts differently to the various medications. It's best to select a starting dose (which you've already done) and then increase slowly until your Free T3 and Free T4 labs are in a good spot for you. There can be a very fine line between feeling hypo, feeling well and feeling hyper and that's why it's important to not increase too quickly. Hopefully you can work with your doctor to find a good level for you.

What I can tell you (since you asked) is the approximate equivalent of what you're taking now. When you say 1 grain plus 15 grains, do you really mean 1 grain plus 15mg for a total of 1.25 grains Armour? I don't think you're taking 16 grains LOL. If that's correct, then it would approximately equate to 92.5 mcg Levo. If you're talking about a different combination, post again with the exact amounts of each med and I'll calculate it for you again. These 'approximates' are just helpful for a starting point and initial increases because everything else changes once you make the switch.

Once you're on Armour, in my opinion, the TSH test alone is pretty much useless. Some will say it's always useless, but I personally don't agree with that. It was an adequate test to get me started when my TSH was 62.0! Armour could very well drop your TSH to below 1.25 without changing your other numbers or improving how you feel. My last TSH was .118, which the lab indicates as hyper, but my actually thyroid hormones are still in range.

How long have you been taking your current dose of Armour and how are you feeling compared to when you were on the .88 levoxyl? When will you be tested again?

As far as the Narcolepsy goes, I don't know anything about how it's fatigue compares to hypothyroid fatigue. Having said that, too much Armour can cause fatigue as well. I think that's how some people end up on very high doses and think that they're still having hypothyroid symptoms (just my opinion while trying to figure things out for myself). If you miss the 'feeling well' window and bypass it, the fatigue, weight gain, etc. can return with some very interesting hyper symptoms tossed in.

I probably gave you more questions than answers, but I hope some of it will be useful. As always, these are just my opinions. I'm not a medical professional or an expert on thyroid function... Judy

How much armour should I take . My TSH was 3.1 and was on .88 levoxyl not feeling well . I want to go to TSH 1.25 . I am on 1 grain of armour plus 15 grains . What would the equivalent dosage of armour be to levoxl 100 be. I was diagnosed with narcolepsy 5 yrs ago but don't think the fatigue is related to that ..

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Hi Anne. I can't tell you how much Armour to take because each person reacts differently to the various medications. It's best to select a starting dose (which you've already done) and then increase slowly until your Free T3 and Free T4 labs are in a good spot for you. There can be a very fine line between feeling hypo, feeling well and feeling hyper and that's why it's important to not increase too quickly. Hopefully you can work with your doctor to find a good level for you.

What I can tell you (since you asked) is the approximate equivalent of what you're taking now. When you say 1 grain plus 15 grains, do you really mean 1 grain plus 15mg for a total of 1.25 grains Armour? I don't think you're taking 16 grains LOL. If that's correct, then it would approximately equate to 92.5 mcg Levo. If you're talking about a different combination, post again with the exact amounts of each med and I'll calculate it for you again. These 'approximates' are just helpful for a starting point and initial increases because everything else changes once you make the switch.

Once you're on Armour, in my opinion, the TSH test alone is pretty much useless. Some will say it's always useless, but I personally don't agree with that. It was an adequate test to get me started when my TSH was 62.0! Armour could very well drop your TSH to below 1.25 without changing your other numbers or improving how you feel. My last TSH was .118, which the lab indicates as hyper, but my actually thyroid hormones are still in range.

How long have you been taking your current dose of Armour and how are you feeling compared to when you were on the .88 levoxyl? When will you be tested again?

As far as the Narcolepsy goes, I don't know anything about how it's fatigue compares to hypothyroid fatigue. Having said that, too much Armour can cause fatigue as well. I think that's how some people end up on very high doses and think that they're still having hypothyroid symptoms (just my opinion while trying to figure things out for myself). If you miss the 'feeling well' window and bypass it, the fatigue, weight gain, etc. can return with some very interesting hyper symptoms tossed in.

I probably gave you more questions than answers, but I hope some of it will be useful. As always, these are just my opinions. I'm not a medical professional or an expert on thyroid function... Judy

How much armour should I take . My TSH was 3.1 and was on .88 levoxyl not feeling well . I want to go to TSH 1.25 . I am on 1 grain of armour plus 15 grains . What would the equivalent dosage of armour be to levoxl 100 be. I was diagnosed with narcolepsy 5 yrs ago but don't think the fatigue is related to that ..

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Hi Judy ,

The gp never did a free T3 or free T4 . 20 years ago I was on 1/2 grain and the dr doubled that eventually got very sick then went to an endo was put on synthyroid 50 and went up to 75 then 88 which I have been on for several yrs . My chlorestoral is high and I don't eat any sweets, tranfats, drink liquor, . I remebered I didn't have chlorestoral problems with armour. I tried the cytomel and levo combination first but the cytomel gives me gas and itching . Maybe I should get the t3 and t4 test but I'll have to figure out the ranges and what they mean because I can't rely on this dr. I don't know who to go to meaning I have to be very sure I can find someone who will prescribe armour tired of blowing what little money I have I'm not sleeping in the day as much but after 7 I'm out . I think I'll stay on 1 grain for awhile instead of the 1.15 grains.

Thank you I know you' re not a dr but you probaly know than the gp I went to. I think I am going to dowse the answers when I 'm a little sharper not a good dowser but it's better than the gp can do. I'm going to study the t3 and 4 stuff too. Thanks Anne

Re: Re: levoxyl to ARMOUR

Hi Anne. I can't tell you how much Armour to take because each person reacts differently to the various medications. It's best to select a starting dose (which you've already done) and then increase slowly until your Free T3 and Free T4 labs are in a good spot for you. There can be a very fine line between feeling hypo, feeling well and feeling hyper and that's why it's important to not increase too quickly. Hopefully you can work with your doctor to find a good level for you.

What I can tell you (since you asked) is the approximate equivalent of what you're taking now. When you say 1 grain plus 15 grains, do you really mean 1 grain plus 15mg for a total of 1.25 grains Armour? I don't think you're taking 16 grains LOL. If that's correct, then it would approximately equate to 92.5 mcg Levo. If you're talking about a different combination, post again with the exact amounts of each med and I'll calculate it for you again. These 'approximates' are just helpful for a starting point and initial increases because everything else changes once you make the switch.

Once you're on Armour, in my opinion, the TSH test alone is pretty much useless. Some will say it's always useless, but I personally don't agree with that. It was an adequate test to get me started when my TSH was 62.0! Armour could very well drop your TSH to below 1.25 without changing your other numbers or improving how you feel. My last TSH was .118, which the lab indicates as hyper, but my actually thyroid hormones are still in range.

How long have you been taking your current dose of Armour and how are you feeling compared to when you were on the .88 levoxyl? When will you be tested again?

As far as the Narcolepsy goes, I don't know anything about how it's fatigue compares to hypothyroid fatigue. Having said that, too much Armour can cause fatigue as well. I think that's how some people end up on very high doses and think that they're still having hypothyroid symptoms (just my opinion while trying to figure things out for myself). If you miss the 'feeling well' window and bypass it, the fatigue, weight gain, etc. can return with some very interesting hyper symptoms tossed in.

I probably gave you more questions than answers, but I hope some of it will be useful. As always, these are just my opinions. I'm not a medical professional or an expert on thyroid function... Judy

How much armour should I take . My TSH was 3.1 and was on .88 levoxyl not feeling well . I want to go to TSH 1.25 . I am on 1 grain of armour plus 15 grains . What would the equivalent dosage of armour be to levoxl 100 be. I was diagnosed with narcolepsy 5 yrs ago but don't think the fatigue is related to that ..

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Hi Judy ,

The gp never did a free T3 or free T4 . 20 years ago I was on 1/2 grain and the dr doubled that eventually got very sick then went to an endo was put on synthyroid 50 and went up to 75 then 88 which I have been on for several yrs . My chlorestoral is high and I don't eat any sweets, tranfats, drink liquor, . I remebered I didn't have chlorestoral problems with armour. I tried the cytomel and levo combination first but the cytomel gives me gas and itching . Maybe I should get the t3 and t4 test but I'll have to figure out the ranges and what they mean because I can't rely on this dr. I don't know who to go to meaning I have to be very sure I can find someone who will prescribe armour tired of blowing what little money I have I'm not sleeping in the day as much but after 7 I'm out . I think I'll stay on 1 grain for awhile instead of the 1.15 grains.

Thank you I know you' re not a dr but you probaly know than the gp I went to. I think I am going to dowse the answers when I 'm a little sharper not a good dowser but it's better than the gp can do. I'm going to study the t3 and 4 stuff too. Thanks Anne

Re: Re: levoxyl to ARMOUR

Hi Anne. I can't tell you how much Armour to take because each person reacts differently to the various medications. It's best to select a starting dose (which you've already done) and then increase slowly until your Free T3 and Free T4 labs are in a good spot for you. There can be a very fine line between feeling hypo, feeling well and feeling hyper and that's why it's important to not increase too quickly. Hopefully you can work with your doctor to find a good level for you.

What I can tell you (since you asked) is the approximate equivalent of what you're taking now. When you say 1 grain plus 15 grains, do you really mean 1 grain plus 15mg for a total of 1.25 grains Armour? I don't think you're taking 16 grains LOL. If that's correct, then it would approximately equate to 92.5 mcg Levo. If you're talking about a different combination, post again with the exact amounts of each med and I'll calculate it for you again. These 'approximates' are just helpful for a starting point and initial increases because everything else changes once you make the switch.

Once you're on Armour, in my opinion, the TSH test alone is pretty much useless. Some will say it's always useless, but I personally don't agree with that. It was an adequate test to get me started when my TSH was 62.0! Armour could very well drop your TSH to below 1.25 without changing your other numbers or improving how you feel. My last TSH was .118, which the lab indicates as hyper, but my actually thyroid hormones are still in range.

How long have you been taking your current dose of Armour and how are you feeling compared to when you were on the .88 levoxyl? When will you be tested again?

As far as the Narcolepsy goes, I don't know anything about how it's fatigue compares to hypothyroid fatigue. Having said that, too much Armour can cause fatigue as well. I think that's how some people end up on very high doses and think that they're still having hypothyroid symptoms (just my opinion while trying to figure things out for myself). If you miss the 'feeling well' window and bypass it, the fatigue, weight gain, etc. can return with some very interesting hyper symptoms tossed in.

I probably gave you more questions than answers, but I hope some of it will be useful. As always, these are just my opinions. I'm not a medical professional or an expert on thyroid function... Judy

How much armour should I take . My TSH was 3.1 and was on .88 levoxyl not feeling well . I want to go to TSH 1.25 . I am on 1 grain of armour plus 15 grains . What would the equivalent dosage of armour be to levoxl 100 be. I was diagnosed with narcolepsy 5 yrs ago but don't think the fatigue is related to that ..

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Hi Judy ,

The gp never did a free T3 or free T4 . 20 years ago I was on 1/2 grain and the dr doubled that eventually got very sick then went to an endo was put on synthyroid 50 and went up to 75 then 88 which I have been on for several yrs . My chlorestoral is high and I don't eat any sweets, tranfats, drink liquor, . I remebered I didn't have chlorestoral problems with armour. I tried the cytomel and levo combination first but the cytomel gives me gas and itching . Maybe I should get the t3 and t4 test but I'll have to figure out the ranges and what they mean because I can't rely on this dr. I don't know who to go to meaning I have to be very sure I can find someone who will prescribe armour tired of blowing what little money I have I'm not sleeping in the day as much but after 7 I'm out . I think I'll stay on 1 grain for awhile instead of the 1.15 grains.

Thank you I know you' re not a dr but you probaly know than the gp I went to. I think I am going to dowse the answers when I 'm a little sharper not a good dowser but it's better than the gp can do. I'm going to study the t3 and 4 stuff too. Thanks Anne

Re: Re: levoxyl to ARMOUR

Hi Anne. I can't tell you how much Armour to take because each person reacts differently to the various medications. It's best to select a starting dose (which you've already done) and then increase slowly until your Free T3 and Free T4 labs are in a good spot for you. There can be a very fine line between feeling hypo, feeling well and feeling hyper and that's why it's important to not increase too quickly. Hopefully you can work with your doctor to find a good level for you.

What I can tell you (since you asked) is the approximate equivalent of what you're taking now. When you say 1 grain plus 15 grains, do you really mean 1 grain plus 15mg for a total of 1.25 grains Armour? I don't think you're taking 16 grains LOL. If that's correct, then it would approximately equate to 92.5 mcg Levo. If you're talking about a different combination, post again with the exact amounts of each med and I'll calculate it for you again. These 'approximates' are just helpful for a starting point and initial increases because everything else changes once you make the switch.

Once you're on Armour, in my opinion, the TSH test alone is pretty much useless. Some will say it's always useless, but I personally don't agree with that. It was an adequate test to get me started when my TSH was 62.0! Armour could very well drop your TSH to below 1.25 without changing your other numbers or improving how you feel. My last TSH was .118, which the lab indicates as hyper, but my actually thyroid hormones are still in range.

How long have you been taking your current dose of Armour and how are you feeling compared to when you were on the .88 levoxyl? When will you be tested again?

As far as the Narcolepsy goes, I don't know anything about how it's fatigue compares to hypothyroid fatigue. Having said that, too much Armour can cause fatigue as well. I think that's how some people end up on very high doses and think that they're still having hypothyroid symptoms (just my opinion while trying to figure things out for myself). If you miss the 'feeling well' window and bypass it, the fatigue, weight gain, etc. can return with some very interesting hyper symptoms tossed in.

I probably gave you more questions than answers, but I hope some of it will be useful. As always, these are just my opinions. I'm not a medical professional or an expert on thyroid function... Judy

How much armour should I take . My TSH was 3.1 and was on .88 levoxyl not feeling well . I want to go to TSH 1.25 . I am on 1 grain of armour plus 15 grains . What would the equivalent dosage of armour be to levoxl 100 be. I was diagnosed with narcolepsy 5 yrs ago but don't think the fatigue is related to that ..

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No problem Anne, take your time. What state are you in? Did you know that each state also has a thyroid group and can help you find Armour docs? Also, there's a list on the www.armourthyroid.com website and also another listing by state is: http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/. You should always double check to make sure the information is current, but I found one using the first list... Judy

I don't know who to go to meaning I have to be very sure I can find someone who will prescribe armour tired of blowing what little money I have

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No problem Anne, take your time. What state are you in? Did you know that each state also has a thyroid group and can help you find Armour docs? Also, there's a list on the www.armourthyroid.com website and also another listing by state is: http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/. You should always double check to make sure the information is current, but I found one using the first list... Judy

I don't know who to go to meaning I have to be very sure I can find someone who will prescribe armour tired of blowing what little money I have

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You may not be an expert on it all but you and the other girls are sure good at parsing out what to do to help! Ya know, I was reading this and got to thinking about the hyper vs the hypo. I still feel hypo, but I don't think it's the same hypo you guys are feeling. I think that it's more of a situational hypo, I guess you could say. I'm stuck in a rut basically and I think that's what's bringing me down. I honestly think that things with my thyroid are improving with leaving the iodine alone and eating, and eating better as well. Not losing the hair that I was ( now that means I'll have to shave my legs more! WAAAAH! I liked THAT part! ) and have more energy to do stuff, just not the ambition. I honestly think that's what it is, lack of ambition more than thyroid. Does any of this make sense to anybody? SpiffJudy P wrote: Hi Anne. I can't tell you how much Armour to take because each person reacts differently to the various medications. It's best to select a starting dose (which you've already done) and then increase slowly until your Free T3 and Free T4 labs are in a good spot for you. There can be a very fine line between feeling hypo, feeling well and feeling hyper and that's why it's important to not increase too quickly. Hopefully you can work with your doctor to find a good level for you. What I can tell you (since you asked) is the approximate equivalent of what you're taking now. When you say 1 grain plus 15 grains, do you really mean 1 grain plus 15mg for a total of 1.25 grains Armour? I don't think you're taking 16 grains LOL. If that's correct, then it would approximately equate to 92.5 mcg Levo. If you're talking about a different combination, post again with the exact amounts of each med and I'll calculate it for you again. These 'approximates' are just helpful for a starting point and initial increases because everything else changes once you make the switch. Once you're on Armour, in my opinion, the TSH test alone is pretty much useless. Some will say it's

always useless, but I personally don't agree with that. It was an adequate test to get me started when my TSH was 62.0! Armour could very well drop your TSH to below 1.25 without changing your other numbers or improving how you feel. My last TSH was .118, which the lab indicates as hyper, but my actually thyroid hormones are still in range. How long have you been taking your current dose of Armour and how are you feeling compared to when you were on the .88 levoxyl? When will you be tested again? As far as the Narcolepsy goes, I don't know anything about how it's fatigue compares to hypothyroid fatigue. Having said that, too much Armour can cause

fatigue as well. I think that's how some people end up on very high doses and think that they're still having hypothyroid symptoms (just my opinion while trying to figure things out for myself). If you miss the 'feeling well' window and bypass it, the fatigue, weight gain, etc. can return with some very interesting hyper symptoms tossed in. I probably gave you more questions than answers, but I hope some of it will be useful. As always, these are just my opinions. I'm not a medical professional or an expert on thyroid function... Judy How much armour should I take . My TSH was 3.1 and was on .88 levoxyl not feeling well . I want to go to TSH 1.25 . I am on 1 grain of

armour plus 15 grains . What would the equivalent dosage of armour be to levoxl 100 be. I was diagnosed with narcolepsy 5 yrs ago but don't think the fatigue is related to that .. Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

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You may not be an expert on it all but you and the other girls are sure good at parsing out what to do to help! Ya know, I was reading this and got to thinking about the hyper vs the hypo. I still feel hypo, but I don't think it's the same hypo you guys are feeling. I think that it's more of a situational hypo, I guess you could say. I'm stuck in a rut basically and I think that's what's bringing me down. I honestly think that things with my thyroid are improving with leaving the iodine alone and eating, and eating better as well. Not losing the hair that I was ( now that means I'll have to shave my legs more! WAAAAH! I liked THAT part! ) and have more energy to do stuff, just not the ambition. I honestly think that's what it is, lack of ambition more than thyroid. Does any of this make sense to anybody? SpiffJudy P wrote: Hi Anne. I can't tell you how much Armour to take because each person reacts differently to the various medications. It's best to select a starting dose (which you've already done) and then increase slowly until your Free T3 and Free T4 labs are in a good spot for you. There can be a very fine line between feeling hypo, feeling well and feeling hyper and that's why it's important to not increase too quickly. Hopefully you can work with your doctor to find a good level for you. What I can tell you (since you asked) is the approximate equivalent of what you're taking now. When you say 1 grain plus 15 grains, do you really mean 1 grain plus 15mg for a total of 1.25 grains Armour? I don't think you're taking 16 grains LOL. If that's correct, then it would approximately equate to 92.5 mcg Levo. If you're talking about a different combination, post again with the exact amounts of each med and I'll calculate it for you again. These 'approximates' are just helpful for a starting point and initial increases because everything else changes once you make the switch. Once you're on Armour, in my opinion, the TSH test alone is pretty much useless. Some will say it's

always useless, but I personally don't agree with that. It was an adequate test to get me started when my TSH was 62.0! Armour could very well drop your TSH to below 1.25 without changing your other numbers or improving how you feel. My last TSH was .118, which the lab indicates as hyper, but my actually thyroid hormones are still in range. How long have you been taking your current dose of Armour and how are you feeling compared to when you were on the .88 levoxyl? When will you be tested again? As far as the Narcolepsy goes, I don't know anything about how it's fatigue compares to hypothyroid fatigue. Having said that, too much Armour can cause

fatigue as well. I think that's how some people end up on very high doses and think that they're still having hypothyroid symptoms (just my opinion while trying to figure things out for myself). If you miss the 'feeling well' window and bypass it, the fatigue, weight gain, etc. can return with some very interesting hyper symptoms tossed in. I probably gave you more questions than answers, but I hope some of it will be useful. As always, these are just my opinions. I'm not a medical professional or an expert on thyroid function... Judy How much armour should I take . My TSH was 3.1 and was on .88 levoxyl not feeling well . I want to go to TSH 1.25 . I am on 1 grain of

armour plus 15 grains . What would the equivalent dosage of armour be to levoxl 100 be. I was diagnosed with narcolepsy 5 yrs ago but don't think the fatigue is related to that .. Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

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You may not be an expert on it all but you and the other girls are sure good at parsing out what to do to help! Ya know, I was reading this and got to thinking about the hyper vs the hypo. I still feel hypo, but I don't think it's the same hypo you guys are feeling. I think that it's more of a situational hypo, I guess you could say. I'm stuck in a rut basically and I think that's what's bringing me down. I honestly think that things with my thyroid are improving with leaving the iodine alone and eating, and eating better as well. Not losing the hair that I was ( now that means I'll have to shave my legs more! WAAAAH! I liked THAT part! ) and have more energy to do stuff, just not the ambition. I honestly think that's what it is, lack of ambition more than thyroid. Does any of this make sense to anybody? SpiffJudy P wrote: Hi Anne. I can't tell you how much Armour to take because each person reacts differently to the various medications. It's best to select a starting dose (which you've already done) and then increase slowly until your Free T3 and Free T4 labs are in a good spot for you. There can be a very fine line between feeling hypo, feeling well and feeling hyper and that's why it's important to not increase too quickly. Hopefully you can work with your doctor to find a good level for you. What I can tell you (since you asked) is the approximate equivalent of what you're taking now. When you say 1 grain plus 15 grains, do you really mean 1 grain plus 15mg for a total of 1.25 grains Armour? I don't think you're taking 16 grains LOL. If that's correct, then it would approximately equate to 92.5 mcg Levo. If you're talking about a different combination, post again with the exact amounts of each med and I'll calculate it for you again. These 'approximates' are just helpful for a starting point and initial increases because everything else changes once you make the switch. Once you're on Armour, in my opinion, the TSH test alone is pretty much useless. Some will say it's

always useless, but I personally don't agree with that. It was an adequate test to get me started when my TSH was 62.0! Armour could very well drop your TSH to below 1.25 without changing your other numbers or improving how you feel. My last TSH was .118, which the lab indicates as hyper, but my actually thyroid hormones are still in range. How long have you been taking your current dose of Armour and how are you feeling compared to when you were on the .88 levoxyl? When will you be tested again? As far as the Narcolepsy goes, I don't know anything about how it's fatigue compares to hypothyroid fatigue. Having said that, too much Armour can cause

fatigue as well. I think that's how some people end up on very high doses and think that they're still having hypothyroid symptoms (just my opinion while trying to figure things out for myself). If you miss the 'feeling well' window and bypass it, the fatigue, weight gain, etc. can return with some very interesting hyper symptoms tossed in. I probably gave you more questions than answers, but I hope some of it will be useful. As always, these are just my opinions. I'm not a medical professional or an expert on thyroid function... Judy How much armour should I take . My TSH was 3.1 and was on .88 levoxyl not feeling well . I want to go to TSH 1.25 . I am on 1 grain of

armour plus 15 grains . What would the equivalent dosage of armour be to levoxl 100 be. I was diagnosed with narcolepsy 5 yrs ago but don't think the fatigue is related to that .. Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.

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