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Very true. I enjoy drinking the Natural Calm. I was just offering a couple

suggestions to use up the remaining horse pills. :)

Pamela

jasrich wrote: Thanks Pamela.

I'm reconsidering all of my mag options again. I'm

supposed to take the mag at night so maybe I'll try dissolving one in

water tomorrow AM and see what state it's in by bed-time. If I'm

going to drink it though, the Natural Calm seems like not a bad way to go.

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Very true. I enjoy drinking the Natural Calm. I was just offering a couple

suggestions to use up the remaining horse pills. :)

Pamela

jasrich wrote: Thanks Pamela.

I'm reconsidering all of my mag options again. I'm

supposed to take the mag at night so maybe I'll try dissolving one in

water tomorrow AM and see what state it's in by bed-time. If I'm

going to drink it though, the Natural Calm seems like not a bad way to go.

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Hi

I suspect that i don't absorb Magnesium well via the stomach. So, I

take 1g of Magnesium Sulphate via a Nebulisor every day. I will do

this for 2 months, just to get my levels up, and then go back to

supplementing the normal way.

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I suspect that i don't absorb Magnesium well via the stomach. So, I

take 1g of Magnesium Sulphate via a Nebulisor every day. I will do

this for 2 months, just to get my levels up, and then go back to

supplementing the normal way.

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Can Selenium be measured by our blood levels too.

I have severly low mag, and my hearbeat does funny things too. Im

wondering about my selenium and zinc.

I recently read that a deficiency in all these minerals can HURT the

t3 to t4 conversion process...no wonder for all the reverse t3 I have.

THanks

KAtie

>

> Delores......

> Took me a bit to figure out too. Funny, I also suspected the

selenium

> from too many supplement sources. Did you see this great article

on

> the cal/mag ratio?

>

> http://www.ithyroid.com/ca_and_mg.htm

>

> It's scary to realize your heart of so relaxed from the mag that

it

> can't contract to make a beat very well and gets sloppy. Then

> adrenaline shoots in with me in alarm mode. I've been having

weird

> erratic hear stuff that I thought was hypo and then too much

selenium,

> so I increased my mag.......

>

> -AG

>

>

>

> > I agree. I was taking lots of magnesium citrate a couple of

years

> > ago and

> > had the toxic metals test done by Metametrics. Everything was

VERY low

> > except I had toxic levels of magnesium and selenium. I, too, was

> > having

> > erratic heart beats but did not realize why. I was taking more

than

> > one

> > supplement with selenium so I figured that out.

> > Now I never take over 400 mg magnesium.

> >

> > Delores

>

>

>

>

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Can Selenium be measured by our blood levels too.

I have severly low mag, and my hearbeat does funny things too. Im

wondering about my selenium and zinc.

I recently read that a deficiency in all these minerals can HURT the

t3 to t4 conversion process...no wonder for all the reverse t3 I have.

THanks

KAtie

>

> Delores......

> Took me a bit to figure out too. Funny, I also suspected the

selenium

> from too many supplement sources. Did you see this great article

on

> the cal/mag ratio?

>

> http://www.ithyroid.com/ca_and_mg.htm

>

> It's scary to realize your heart of so relaxed from the mag that

it

> can't contract to make a beat very well and gets sloppy. Then

> adrenaline shoots in with me in alarm mode. I've been having

weird

> erratic hear stuff that I thought was hypo and then too much

selenium,

> so I increased my mag.......

>

> -AG

>

>

>

> > I agree. I was taking lots of magnesium citrate a couple of

years

> > ago and

> > had the toxic metals test done by Metametrics. Everything was

VERY low

> > except I had toxic levels of magnesium and selenium. I, too, was

> > having

> > erratic heart beats but did not realize why. I was taking more

than

> > one

> > supplement with selenium so I figured that out.

> > Now I never take over 400 mg magnesium.

> >

> > Delores

>

>

>

>

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All I know is that to a certain point, not even to bowel tolerance

cause I can't get there, my heart rhythm gets thrown askew by excess

magnesium/too little calcium. I know magnesium helps with some forms

of arrhythmia, esp. hyper type arrhythmia, but for some of us hypos it

seems we need to be mindful of our own cal/mag ratio. I do well on

the 2:1 cal/mag. When I go heavy on the mag I can't sleep at night

for all the erratic heart action. Salt doesn't touch it, potassium

doesn't do it, calcium stops it. In the link I posted the author goes

into detail on the muscular effects of cal and mag. Takes cal to make

a strong beat, takes mag to relax the beat. I can tell you for sure

that with too much mag, while it has NOT effected my bowels at this

point, my heart can't get the beat out and it falls back into weak

half pumps. Then it gets a kick, presumably adrenaline, and a beat is

made. My experiment of adding calcium ends this pronto.

The beauty of it is that it is easy to experiment and see for yourself.

http://www.ithyroid.com/ca_and_mg.htm

-AG

> it is always advised to take mg up to bowel tolerance. but what

> about ca? do you also increase your ca as you increase mg..i did

> take mg for long term in big amounts without increasing my ca dosage

> and i am not sure at this moment if it was right thing to do.

> bw

> Nil

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All I know is that to a certain point, not even to bowel tolerance

cause I can't get there, my heart rhythm gets thrown askew by excess

magnesium/too little calcium. I know magnesium helps with some forms

of arrhythmia, esp. hyper type arrhythmia, but for some of us hypos it

seems we need to be mindful of our own cal/mag ratio. I do well on

the 2:1 cal/mag. When I go heavy on the mag I can't sleep at night

for all the erratic heart action. Salt doesn't touch it, potassium

doesn't do it, calcium stops it. In the link I posted the author goes

into detail on the muscular effects of cal and mag. Takes cal to make

a strong beat, takes mag to relax the beat. I can tell you for sure

that with too much mag, while it has NOT effected my bowels at this

point, my heart can't get the beat out and it falls back into weak

half pumps. Then it gets a kick, presumably adrenaline, and a beat is

made. My experiment of adding calcium ends this pronto.

The beauty of it is that it is easy to experiment and see for yourself.

http://www.ithyroid.com/ca_and_mg.htm

-AG

> it is always advised to take mg up to bowel tolerance. but what

> about ca? do you also increase your ca as you increase mg..i did

> take mg for long term in big amounts without increasing my ca dosage

> and i am not sure at this moment if it was right thing to do.

> bw

> Nil

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All I know is that to a certain point, not even to bowel tolerance

cause I can't get there, my heart rhythm gets thrown askew by excess

magnesium/too little calcium. I know magnesium helps with some forms

of arrhythmia, esp. hyper type arrhythmia, but for some of us hypos it

seems we need to be mindful of our own cal/mag ratio. I do well on

the 2:1 cal/mag. When I go heavy on the mag I can't sleep at night

for all the erratic heart action. Salt doesn't touch it, potassium

doesn't do it, calcium stops it. In the link I posted the author goes

into detail on the muscular effects of cal and mag. Takes cal to make

a strong beat, takes mag to relax the beat. I can tell you for sure

that with too much mag, while it has NOT effected my bowels at this

point, my heart can't get the beat out and it falls back into weak

half pumps. Then it gets a kick, presumably adrenaline, and a beat is

made. My experiment of adding calcium ends this pronto.

The beauty of it is that it is easy to experiment and see for yourself.

http://www.ithyroid.com/ca_and_mg.htm

-AG

> it is always advised to take mg up to bowel tolerance. but what

> about ca? do you also increase your ca as you increase mg..i did

> take mg for long term in big amounts without increasing my ca dosage

> and i am not sure at this moment if it was right thing to do.

> bw

> Nil

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I'm using a product called " Med T3 caps " which I first read about in Dr. Shames

book " Feeling Fat, Fuzzy or Frazzled " It is specifically formulated to help T4

to T3 conversion and it's made by XYMOGEN. Good nutraceutical.

Re: What's enough mag?

Can Selenium be measured by our blood levels too.

I have severly low mag, and my hearbeat does funny things too. Im

wondering about my selenium and zinc.

I recently read that a deficiency in all these minerals can HURT the

t3 to t4 conversion process...no wonder for all the reverse t3 I have.

THanks

KAtie

>

> Delores......

> Took me a bit to figure out too. Funny, I also suspected the

selenium

> from too many supplement sources. Did you see this great article

on

> the cal/mag ratio?

>

> http://www.ithyroid.com/ca_and_mg.htm

>

> It's scary to realize your heart of so relaxed from the mag that

it

> can't contract to make a beat very well and gets sloppy. Then

> adrenaline shoots in with me in alarm mode. I've been having

weird

> erratic hear stuff that I thought was hypo and then too much

selenium,

> so I increased my mag.......

>

> -AG

>

>

>

> > I agree. I was taking lots of magnesium citrate a couple of

years

> > ago and

> > had the toxic metals test done by Metametrics. Everything was

VERY low

> > except I had toxic levels of magnesium and selenium. I, too, was

> > having

> > erratic heart beats but did not realize why. I was taking more

than

> > one

> > supplement with selenium so I figured that out.

> > Now I never take over 400 mg magnesium.

> >

> > Delores

>

>

>

>

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Thanks very much for this information. What brand of calcium do you find the

easiest to absorb?

Pamela

Atlanta Girl wrote:

All I know is that to a certain point, not even to bowel tolerance

cause I can't get there, my heart rhythm gets thrown askew by excess

magnesium/too little calcium. I know magnesium helps with some forms

of arrhythmia, esp. hyper type arrhythmia, but for some of us hypos it

seems we need to be mindful of our own cal/mag ratio. I do well on

the 2:1 cal/mag. When I go heavy on the mag I can't sleep at night

for all the erratic heart action. Salt doesn't touch it, potassium

doesn't do it, calcium stops it. In the link I posted the author goes

into detail on the muscular effects of cal and mag. Takes cal to make

a strong beat, takes mag to relax the beat. I can tell you for sure

that with too much mag, while it has NOT effected my bowels at this

point, my heart can't get the beat out and it falls back into weak

half pumps. Then it gets a kick, presumably adrenaline, and a beat is

made. My experiment of adding calcium ends this pronto.

The beauty of it is that it is easy to experiment and see for yourself.

http://www.ithyroid.com/ca_and_mg.htm

-AG

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But what if you need to supplement both? I know I need to supplement calcium

and I already take that. I was thinking about adding in a mag supplement.

How do youdo that if you are also taking calcium?

Cherie

Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you

learn.--C.S.

>

> MOST people with hypothyoridism are low in magnesium. to correct that

> oyu need ot take JUST magnesium. Taking calcium and magnesium does nto

> work,. If you are in doubt about how much you are taking order a lab to

> see where lyour levels of calcium and magnesium are. Guessing is

> juts that.

> https://orders.directlabs.com/dl-locator/order_tests.aspx

>

> Magnesium $39 and Calcium spot urine $39

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But what if you need to supplement both? I know I need to supplement calcium

and I already take that. I was thinking about adding in a mag supplement.

How do youdo that if you are also taking calcium?

Cherie

Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you

learn.--C.S.

>

> MOST people with hypothyoridism are low in magnesium. to correct that

> oyu need ot take JUST magnesium. Taking calcium and magnesium does nto

> work,. If you are in doubt about how much you are taking order a lab to

> see where lyour levels of calcium and magnesium are. Guessing is

> juts that.

> https://orders.directlabs.com/dl-locator/order_tests.aspx

>

> Magnesium $39 and Calcium spot urine $39

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But what if you need to supplement both? I know I need to supplement calcium

and I already take that. I was thinking about adding in a mag supplement.

How do youdo that if you are also taking calcium?

Cherie

Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you

learn.--C.S.

>

> MOST people with hypothyoridism are low in magnesium. to correct that

> oyu need ot take JUST magnesium. Taking calcium and magnesium does nto

> work,. If you are in doubt about how much you are taking order a lab to

> see where lyour levels of calcium and magnesium are. Guessing is

> juts that.

> https://orders.directlabs.com/dl-locator/order_tests.aspx

>

> Magnesium $39 and Calcium spot urine $39

>

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I took it last night and didn't sleep well at all. I don't know what

arrhythmia feels like or if it's subtle enough for me not to notice,

but maybe that's why I didn't sleep. I guess that I can experiment by

not taking it tnite.

>

> All I know is that to a certain point, not even to bowel tolerance

> cause I can't get there, my heart rhythm gets thrown askew by excess

> magnesium/too little calcium. I know magnesium helps with some forms

> of arrhythmia, esp. hyper type arrhythmia, but for some of us hypos it

> seems we need to be mindful of our own cal/mag ratio. I do well on

> the 2:1 cal/mag. When I go heavy on the mag I can't sleep at night

> for all the erratic heart action. Salt doesn't touch it, potassium

> doesn't do it, calcium stops it. In the link I posted the author goes

> into detail on the muscular effects of cal and mag. Takes cal to make

> a strong beat, takes mag to relax the beat. I can tell you for sure

> that with too much mag, while it has NOT effected my bowels at this

> point, my heart can't get the beat out and it falls back into weak

> half pumps. Then it gets a kick, presumably adrenaline, and a beat is

> made. My experiment of adding calcium ends this pronto.

> The beauty of it is that it is easy to experiment and see for yourself.

>

> http://www.ithyroid.com/ca_and_mg.htm

>

> -AG

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Oh I was just wondering how it was going. you said the last time you saw him he

seemed ditracted..you had a follow up with him and was wondering if you had that

with him. Which doc do you think you will have better luck with Woodhouse or

the new guy. I had seen Woodhouse a couple of times but was at a stand still in

getting better.. so like you, since he didnt take phone calls I cant wait 3month

between appointments for questions.

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Yes, that's me. I like Dr. Woodhouse, and especially his wife

Joannne. My biggest issue with him is that he will not do telephone

consultation which means that I have to fly up there from SC where I

live to see him (I stay with my family in Toledo). I just saw another

Top Doc in GA last week who I can drive to see, and he does telephone

consultations so I might end up switching.

>

> Hi ,

> I was just wondering if you are the that went to dr woodhouse

in MI.

> -MI

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To all those who have GI issues with magnesium, I was wondering if any have

tried the magnesium oil. Can get it on Amazon ads many other places you Google.

I take the magnesium Calm like some of you, but have to be

careful at times, so may go to the oil llater - more stuff to rub in sigh .

PatSubject: Re: Re: What's enough mag?

,

At night, I take the mag/glycinate tablets and put them in a liter of water.

By the next day, after a few shakes, the tablets are dissolved and drink the

water. I also chew a tablet up and swallow with kefir at times. Of course, I use

a different brand than you do. I use the Kal brand of mag/glycinate. But, theses

two methods might work for your brand also.

Pamela

jasrich wrote: I got the mag/glycinate after the

discussion here about the most

absorbable and well tolerated although someone else noted that

mag/taurinate would be another one after I ordered it. I've heard

about the Natural Calm. If people here vouch for it as a good,

absorbable form I'll gladly take it that way. I can barely swallow

these tabs. Does anyone with a good gut want to buy about 177 tabs :)

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For a few years now I've been satisfied with the Blue Bonnet Liquid

Calcium Magnesium. Both are citrate form. I'm guessing that I

absorb it fairly well even with weak digestion as my ION panel from

Metametrics showed good levels of both cal and mag.

-AG

> Thanks very much for this information. What brand of calcium do you

> find the easiest to absorb?

>

> Pamela

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It went fine. The second visit was better than the first b/c I had

the last appt before lunch and he took the whole time with me, and he

didn't have his shpeil to get through so we worked through my

questions but I had a printed out agenda for him and for me and I had

to keep steering him back to it. If you've seen him, you know what I

mean - he's like the absent-minded professor which I think is what he

was before or while he has been practicing medicine. I still like

him, and Joanne, but I don't like the rest of his staff nearly as much

and the refusal to consult via phone is a killer for me traveling so

far even if it does give me an excuse to visit with family. I might

keep the next appt while I keep seeing this new guy in GA that I saw

last week who I liked and who will do telephone consults. He is a

little into products though and I don't want to go too far down that

road either.

Who are you seeing now or are you going it alone?

>

> Oh I was just wondering how it was going. you said the last time you

saw him he seemed ditracted..you had a follow up with him and was

wondering if you had that with him. Which doc do you think you will

have better luck with Woodhouse or the new guy. I had seen Woodhouse

a couple of times but was at a stand still in getting better.. so like

you, since he didnt take phone calls I cant wait 3month between

appointments for questions.

>

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It went fine. The second visit was better than the first b/c I had

the last appt before lunch and he took the whole time with me, and he

didn't have his shpeil to get through so we worked through my

questions but I had a printed out agenda for him and for me and I had

to keep steering him back to it. If you've seen him, you know what I

mean - he's like the absent-minded professor which I think is what he

was before or while he has been practicing medicine. I still like

him, and Joanne, but I don't like the rest of his staff nearly as much

and the refusal to consult via phone is a killer for me traveling so

far even if it does give me an excuse to visit with family. I might

keep the next appt while I keep seeing this new guy in GA that I saw

last week who I liked and who will do telephone consults. He is a

little into products though and I don't want to go too far down that

road either.

Who are you seeing now or are you going it alone?

>

> Oh I was just wondering how it was going. you said the last time you

saw him he seemed ditracted..you had a follow up with him and was

wondering if you had that with him. Which doc do you think you will

have better luck with Woodhouse or the new guy. I had seen Woodhouse

a couple of times but was at a stand still in getting better.. so like

you, since he didnt take phone calls I cant wait 3month between

appointments for questions.

>

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Cherie wrote:

> But what if you need to supplement both? I know I need to supplement calcium

> and I already take that. I was thinking about adding in a mag supplement.

> How do youdo that if you are also taking calcium?

>

Though mag is usualy recommended to be taken at bedtime, Dr. A.

Stoff, M.D. in the book

" Chronic Fatigue Syndrome: The Hidden Epidemic " has some interesting

ideas about calcium and magnesium and when to take them:

" Owing to EBV-associated liver problems, patients ha ve a very

sensitive digestive system. They are disturbed when bile productin

increases (after midnight) and tend to wake up near 3 a.m........About

an hour before going to bed--hopefully this will be around 8:00

p.m.--take 1,000 milligrams of calcium. (calcium lactate is a

particularly gentle and easily abosrbed form.). The calcium does two

things. First it actually tends to inhibit reproduction of the Epstein

-Barr virus. Second it facilitates the balance of neurotransmitters,

makiin sleep easier.

We recommend supplementing your diet with a 400 milligram dose of

amino-chelated magnesium (magnesium orotate " , best taken first thing in

the morning. The magnesium willkeep the calcium in balance, help prevent

the formation of kidney stones, stimulate the gallbladder to release

bile, and crank up your digestive system for the new day (this also has

a detoxifying effect on the liver). " p. 48

This is an older book, supposedly the idea of EBV as a cause of

chronic fatigue has been disproven, but I like the book and it has a lot

of info I found valuable for myself. And I'm not so sure the connection

between EBV and CFS is wrong.

The book has been out of print for some time, but the 1990 edition of

the book can be purchases used at Amazon

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DO you HAVE to take calcium with magnesium supplements.

My doc has ordered me to take milk of mag start of slowly and lightly.

Anyone heard of this as a supplement for mag? He said its most

absorbant.

Thanks

KAtie

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> I'm using a product called " Med T3 caps " which I first read about in

Dr. Shames book " Feeling Fat, Fuzzy or Frazzled " It is specifically

formulated to help T4 to T3 conversion and it's made by XYMOGEN. Good

nutraceutical.

>

>

>

Whats in them? Do you have a link to buy them?

Well...then again, I was told to deal with liquid and powder

supplements because of my crappy digestive tract from smoking.

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> I'm using a product called " Med T3 caps " which I first read about in

Dr. Shames book " Feeling Fat, Fuzzy or Frazzled " It is specifically

formulated to help T4 to T3 conversion and it's made by XYMOGEN. Good

nutraceutical.

>

>

>

Whats in them? Do you have a link to buy them?

Well...then again, I was told to deal with liquid and powder

supplements because of my crappy digestive tract from smoking.

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nil,

not far from seven with bottomed out dhea and cortisol.

-ag

> Hi AG

>

> May i ask you what your stage is?

> thanks a lot.

>

> nil

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