Re: ozband and other sites

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Sam,

It has been my impression that the doctors based round Professor O'Brien don't think much of the net sites because I mentioned ozband to him last December and his comment went something like this "if it's the one I found the other night it is full of rubbish."

I believe that doctor's in other states have mixed feelings about groups.

Can other bandits please comment.

Regards,

Ken

height 178cm surgeon Prof O'Brien The Avenue Hospital 1st band 28-July-1997 weight then 188kg lowest weight 96kg 2nd band 8-January-2001 weight then 118 weight now 105kg

-----Original Message-----From: sam okun Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 11:49 AMTo: ozband Subject: Re: reply to Thanks Its was good that you told him about the site, I did ask him about a supportgroup, he forgot to tell me. Its a wonder what you find on the net.I've been walking increasing every day, the pace still the same, I need todrink some more...talk soonSam reply to >>> > Hi > > Its going to be good for you. Im wondering doesnt stewart skinner domany> > bandings? As I said I thought he was great. As for the support meetings> > please let me know when they are.> > Regards> > Sam> >> >> >> > ozband website:> > http://www.ozband.com> >> >

[Guest guest]

Ken,

I was originally 'banded' by Fielding in

Brisbane 3 years ago,but due to distance for fills etc

(I live on Sunshine Coast) I discovered Dr. Ian Baxter

at Buderim & have been seing him since November last

year.

Ian is one of the great supporters of 'bandster'

meetings/support groups etc & I feel very lucky in

finding someone like him.

Another bonus is a clinic day held every 3 months at

Ian's rooms with himself, the Dietician &

Physiotherapist in attendance. All 'bandsters' are

contacted with the date & times of attendance & we

trot along & go from room to room like tubby little

sheep. (well, some of is are still tubby little sheep

anyway!!) It's a great day!

I am of the impression that Ian is pretty special in

his thinking about all this as it appears most of the

surgeons have that negative attitude about us all

needing each others support.

Have a nice day.

Sue on the Sunshine Coast

--- " Duncan, Ken " ken.duncan@...> wrote:

> Sam,

>

>

>

> It has been my impression that the doctors based

> round Professor O'Brien

> don't think much of the net sites because I

> mentioned ozband to him last

> December and his comment went something like this

> " if it's the one I found

> the other night it is full of rubbish. "

>

> I believe that doctor's in other states have mixed

> feelings about groups.

>

> Can other bandits please comment.

>

> Regards,

>

> Ken

>

> height 178cm

> surgeon Prof O'Brien The Avenue Hospital

> 1st band 28-July-1997

> weight then 188kg

> lowest weight 96kg

> 2nd band 8-January-2001

> weight then 118

> weight now 105kg

>

>

> Re: reply to

>

>

> Thanks

> Its was good that you told him about the site, I did

> ask him about a support

> group, he forgot to tell me. Its a wonder what you

> find on the net.

> I've been walking increasing every day, the pace

> still the same, I need to

> drink some more...

> talk soon

> Sam

> reply to

> >

> >

> > > Hi

> > > Its going to be good for you. Im wondering

> doesnt stewart skinner do

> many

> > > bandings? As I said I thought he was great. As

> for the support meetings

> > > please let me know when they are.

> > > Regards

> > > Sam

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ozband website:

> > > http://www.ozband.com http://www.ozband.com>

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Ken and Liz,

I completely agree with you.

I found this site out of desperation for information and have gained so much

support and understanding about this devise they put inside my body. What

frustrates me (I know I've said this before)is that I KNOW that there are

people in FNQ who have been banded, but possibly because of not being

encouraged to have support groups, they are on their own as well,

Gabby

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[Guest guest]

> The time this was sent is 11.49am so will see how long it takes.

> Vicky (with a Y)

Vicky,

I got it at 11.51.

*smile*

[Guest guest]

As for the site containing " rubbish " ....jeeeesus! How bloody condescending!

Liz,

Couldn't agree with you more. From this site I've learned, amongst other things, what are FM shoes/boots, and what a french and brazilian wax is and I feel more informed for it. And, I am not being facetious.

Apart form the above I have learned a huge amount about the band from everyone's tales. I have find the site extremely informative and I will go to my surgeon armed with a list of questions which have resulted from postings to the site.

I thank you all.

Best wishes to everyone

Jo (Orange)

[Guest guest]

Hi All

For some reason my emails are taken HOURS to surface not sure WHY !!!!

The time this was sent is 11.49am so will see how long it takes.

Vicky (with a Y)

Brisbane

[Guest guest]

Hi Vicky I got it at 11.50 and 55seconds! My emails have just started

speeding up again. I have been reliably informed that it has to do with the

Nimda virus and should be fixed in about a week, but probably not before.

Do you have Outlook express? If so, apparently it helps to close the

preview window. I haven't closed my outlook window and it seems that the

emails are improving anyway so maybe it's a matter of waiting it out!

Bye for now

Bev.

Beverlee Rhys

>

>Reply-To: ozband

>To: ozband >

>Subject: Re: ozband and other sites

>Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 11:50:55 +1000

>

>Hi All

>For some reason my emails are taken HOURS to surface not sure WHY !!!!

>The time this was sent is 11.49am so will see how long it takes.

>Vicky (with a Y)

>Brisbane

>

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[Guest guest]

Go Liz!!!

Maybe we need to commence group action for defamation of character? (lol)

Only the inexperienced would challenge something the experienced find

advantageous. No person can deny another persons experience. How dare the

skinny one make such claims without having even tried on my moccasins! I

have learned more from the info here than I did out of the grey booklet. I

am certainly more well informed than most of the Doctors I come into contact

with here in the ACT and had I not found the group, I would be completely

alone. I still haven't found any Canberra people who have had the band

done. Maybe they don't have access to the net?? I would have found this

experience quite negative had I not found the site and had some visitors

while in Melbourne. Oh dear ... you can't live without 'em!

Well 'ranted' Liz

Beverlee.

Beverlee Rhys

>

>Reply-To: ozband

>To: ozband >

>Subject: RE: ozband and other sites

>Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 23:37:33 +1000

>

>Yes, Ken, you are right, but I must say it is something which I am really

>very bloody cross about!! Certain doctors are so busy doing bloody studies

>and research on all sorts of other things to do with the band, and some

>doctors attitude about support groups is based on their own ignorance and

>lack of empathy. Every single other flipping medical disorder has found

>support groups to be advantageous. Sure, they would not be everyone's cup

>of tea, but that is fine....don't join! With all the other studies being

>done (I am really very cross about this, its a long story but I feel I was

>bullied into participating into a particular research project despite

>specifically withdrawing my consent, and then being coerced into

>withdrawing

>my withdrawal literally minutes before the operation started.......and

>remember, I am a malpractice lawyer who has published articles about

>patient

>consent!!!!!!grrrrrr I am mostly angry at myself). Anyway, back to the

>support groups, how about them doing a proper study before denouncing them

>so roundly.

>

>I can tell you, I had not known of these sites until about 3 weeks after my

>operation at which point, to be blunt, I was nearly suicidal. I had no

>proper idea of what was going on, nor what to expect (on a daily basis) and

>found no support from the " team " , where I couldn't even get onto a

>receptionist, but just voice-mail. Having paid well over $3000 out of my

>own

>pocket, and together with medicare and private insurance, the medical team

>having received about $12,000, I was mighty cross I can tell you. NOT, I

>might add, at what the operation has/had done for me, but the total lack of

>support, which for me, at least, was crucial.

>

>As for the site containing " rubbish " ....jeeeesus! How bloody condescending!

>

>Sorry about this rant.....but as you can tell, I feel VERY strongly about

>this. What we are doing is information exchange, and knowledge is

>power.....something which I think doctors, often, find very disconcerting.

>

>Love, Liz

>Banded 26 March 2001

>lost 17.4 kgs.

> RE: ozband and other sites

>

>

> Sam,

> It has been my impression that the doctors based round Professor

>O'Brien

>don't think much of the net sites because I mentioned ozband to him last

>December and his comment went something like this " if it's the one I found

>the other night it is full of rubbish. "

>

> I believe that doctor's in other states have mixed feelings about

>groups.

>

> Can other bandits please comment.

>

> Regards,

>

> Ken

>

> height 178cm

> surgeon Prof O'Brien The Avenue Hospital

> 1st band 28-July-1997

> weight then 188kg

> lowest weight 96kg

> 2nd band 8-January-2001

> weight then 118

> weight now 105kg

>

>

>

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I know if it hadn't been for having this support group site I probably would not

have heard encouraging words (in the US) and I wouldn't have considered making

an appointment to have it done.

Dr. A. C. " Gus " Moreno

NE USA

e-mail: moreno@...

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[Guest guest]

Hi Guys,

When I went to see Mr. Skinner he asked me if I had any questions and I said I did have some but I had them all answered on the Ozband Site. I suppose that was not good for his ego but it was true, not that that is anything against him because I think he is great and he said he didn't know of this support group.

Re: ozband and other sites

As for the site containing "rubbish"....jeeeesus! How bloody condescending!

Liz,

Couldn't agree with you more. From this site I've learned, amongst other things, what are FM shoes/boots, and what a french and brazilian wax is and I feel more informed for it. And, I am not being facetious.

Apart form the above I have learned a huge amount about the band from everyone's tales. I have find the site extremely informative and I will go to my surgeon armed with a list of questions which have resulted from postings to the site.

I thank you all.

Best wishes to everyone

Jo (Orange)ozband website: http://www.ozband.com