Guest guest Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Hello Everybody, I've got a question for you about my son's current speech patterns. He was diagnosed with an expressive and receptive language disorder in March 2006, and is in an inclusion preschool. He's been doing very well, but I've noticed some different habits (for lack of better words). A lot of times his words are just running altogether in one endless story. I am having more trouble understanding him now, than when he was saying just a few words or little sentences. This speech habit usually occurs when he's emotional about something, be it good or bad. (But not necessarily always.) Today he came home from school and was upset. He was agitated and told me " he had gotten into trouble. " Then it changed to a " little girl got in trouble with the teachers. " There was something about " hitting. " He was terrified that I would call his teacher. His stories made little sense. So I told him that I wanted to call his teacher, just to find out what happened. He got very upset, and cried, and I told him that I needed to find out what happened, and that he was not in trouble. " I called and left a message. So the gist of it is, that his longer utterances are getting very difficult to understand. If I repeat what I think he meant, he'll say " yes " but then change what he says if asked again. I guess he's just trying to get me to interpret for him? (I don't know). He's 3 1/2, and is on fish oils and just started Vit. E. Conferences are in Nov,. and his IEP will be reviewed. I know I'm getting as frustrated as he is right now. Poor little thing. We have an appt. scheduled for Jan. with a dev. Ped. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 , Now that my son is talking more...his sentences run into each other as well and you end up not understanding most of what he says. His therapist tries to remind him to talk using " turtle " speech v. " rabbit " speech. He has so much to say that his brain/mouth don't coordinate fast enough! " R. " <figure1789@...> Sent by: cc: @yaho Subject: [ ] Speech Runs Together ogroups.com 10/26/2006 11:35 PM Please respond to Hello Everybody, I've got a question for you about my son's current speech patterns. He was diagnosed with an expressive and receptive language disorder in March 2006, and is in an inclusion preschool. He's been doing very well, but I've noticed some different habits (for lack of better words). A lot of times his words are just running altogether in one endless story. I am having more trouble understanding him now, than when he was saying just a few words or little sentences. This speech habit usually occurs when he's emotional about something, be it good or bad. (But not necessarily always.) Today he came home from school and was upset. He was agitated and told me " he had gotten into trouble. " Then it changed to a " little girl got in trouble with the teachers. " There was something about " hitting. " He was terrified that I would call his teacher. His stories made little sense. So I told him that I wanted to call his teacher, just to find out what happened. He got very upset, and cried, and I told him that I needed to find out what happened, and that he was not in trouble. " I called and left a message. So the gist of it is, that his longer utterances are getting very difficult to understand. If I repeat what I think he meant, he'll say " yes " but then change what he says if asked again. I guess he's just trying to get me to interpret for him? (I don't know). He's 3 1/2, and is on fish oils and just started Vit. E. Conferences are in Nov,. and his IEP will be reviewed. I know I'm getting as frustrated as he is right now. Poor little thing. We have an appt. scheduled for Jan. with a dev. Ped. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Hi, Thanks for your reply. What kind of problem would this be considered? Is it a delay between processing and his oral motor skills? I talked to his teacher today about him being upset at school. She said that everything had been a regular day. I asked her about his long stories, and she said as much about rapid thoughts, etc. She said that sometimes his thoughts are disconnected, so would this be the same thing? Is this developing speech an indicator of anything besides his receptive/expressive disorder? Since I've joined the group and learned so much, I'm beginning to think he is apraxic. Any thoughts highly appreciated. On 10/27/06, myra.bauza@... <myra.bauza@...> wrote: > > > , > Now that my son is talking more...his sentences run into each other as > well > and you end up not understanding most of what he says. His therapist tries > to remind him to talk using " turtle " speech v. " rabbit " speech. He has so > much to say that his brain/mouth don't coordinate fast enough! > > " R. " > <figure1789@... <figure1789%40gmail.com>> To: > < %40> > Sent by: cc: > @yaho Subject: [ ] Speech Runs > Together > ogroups.com > > > 10/26/2006 11:35 PM > Please respond to > > > > > Hello Everybody, > I've got a question for you about my son's current speech patterns. > > He was diagnosed with an expressive and receptive language disorder in > March > 2006, and is in an inclusion preschool. He's been doing very well, but > I've > noticed some different habits (for lack of better words). > > A lot of times his words are just running altogether in one endless story. > I am having more trouble understanding him now, than when he was saying > just > a few words or little sentences. This speech habit usually occurs when > he's > emotional about something, be it good or bad. (But not necessarily > always.) > > Today he came home from school and was upset. He was agitated and told me > " he had gotten into trouble. " Then it changed to a " little girl got in > trouble with the teachers. " There was something about " hitting. " He was > terrified that I would call his teacher. His stories made little sense. > So > I told him that I wanted to call his teacher, just to find out what > happened. He got very upset, and cried, and I told him that I needed to > find out what happened, and that he was not in trouble. " I called and left > a message. > > So the gist of it is, that his longer utterances are getting very > difficult > to understand. If I repeat what I think he meant, he'll say " yes " but then > change what he says if asked again. I guess he's just trying to get me to > interpret for him? (I don't know). He's 3 1/2, and is on fish oils and > just started Vit. E. Conferences are in Nov,. and his IEP will be > reviewed. I know I'm getting as frustrated as he is right now. Poor > little > thing. > > We have an appt. scheduled for Jan. with a dev. Ped. > > Thanks, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 You might consider having a speech therapist look into/rule out cluttering or auditory processing difficulties as well. Katina > > > > > > , > > Now that my son is talking more...his sentences run into each other as > > well > > and you end up not understanding most of what he says. His therapist tries > > to remind him to talk using " turtle " speech v. " rabbit " speech. He has so > > much to say that his brain/mouth don't coordinate fast enough! > > > > " R. " > > <figure1789@... <figure1789%40gmail.com>> To: > > < % 40> > > Sent by: cc: > > @yaho Subject: [ ] Speech Runs > > Together > > ogroups.com > > > > > > 10/26/2006 11:35 PM > > Please respond to > > > > > > > > > > Hello Everybody, > > I've got a question for you about my son's current speech patterns. > > > > He was diagnosed with an expressive and receptive language disorder in > > March > > 2006, and is in an inclusion preschool. He's been doing very well, but > > I've > > noticed some different habits (for lack of better words). > > > > A lot of times his words are just running altogether in one endless story. > > I am having more trouble understanding him now, than when he was saying > > just > > a few words or little sentences. This speech habit usually occurs when > > he's > > emotional about something, be it good or bad. (But not necessarily > > always.) > > > > Today he came home from school and was upset. He was agitated and told me > > " he had gotten into trouble. " Then it changed to a " little girl got in > > trouble with the teachers. " There was something about " hitting. " He was > > terrified that I would call his teacher. His stories made little sense. > > So > > I told him that I wanted to call his teacher, just to find out what > > happened. He got very upset, and cried, and I told him that I needed to > > find out what happened, and that he was not in trouble. " I called and left > > a message. > > > > So the gist of it is, that his longer utterances are getting very > > difficult > > to understand. If I repeat what I think he meant, he'll say " yes " but then > > change what he says if asked again. I guess he's just trying to get me to > > interpret for him? (I don't know). He's 3 1/2, and is on fish oils and > > just started Vit. E. Conferences are in Nov,. and his IEP will be > > reviewed. I know I'm getting as frustrated as he is right now. Poor > > little > > thing. > > > > We have an appt. scheduled for Jan. with a dev. Ped. > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 Hi Katina, Could you tell me more about those? Thanks, On 10/29/06, katinaslp <katslp@...> wrote: > > You might consider having a speech therapist look into/rule out > cluttering or auditory processing difficulties as well. Katina > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > Now that my son is talking more...his sentences run into each > other as > > > well > > > and you end up not understanding most of what he says. His > therapist tries > > > to remind him to talk using " turtle " speech v. " rabbit " speech. > He has so > > > much to say that his brain/mouth don't coordinate fast enough! > > > > > > " R. " > > > <figure1789@... <figure1789%40gmail.com>> To: > > > < %40> > < % > 40> > > > > Sent by: cc: > > > @yaho Subject: [ ] Speech > Runs > > > Together > > > ogroups.com > > > > > > > > > 10/26/2006 11:35 PM > > > Please respond to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Everybody, > > > I've got a question for you about my son's current speech > patterns. > > > > > > He was diagnosed with an expressive and receptive language > disorder in > > > March > > > 2006, and is in an inclusion preschool. He's been doing very > well, but > > > I've > > > noticed some different habits (for lack of better words). > > > > > > A lot of times his words are just running altogether in one > endless story. > > > I am having more trouble understanding him now, than when he was > saying > > > just > > > a few words or little sentences. This speech habit usually > occurs when > > > he's > > > emotional about something, be it good or bad. (But not > necessarily > > > always.) > > > > > > Today he came home from school and was upset. He was agitated > and told me > > > " he had gotten into trouble. " Then it changed to a " little girl > got in > > > trouble with the teachers. " There was something about " hitting. " > He was > > > terrified that I would call his teacher. His stories made little > sense. > > > So > > > I told him that I wanted to call his teacher, just to find out > what > > > happened. He got very upset, and cried, and I told him that I > needed to > > > find out what happened, and that he was not in trouble. " I > called and left > > > a message. > > > > > > So the gist of it is, that his longer utterances are getting very > > > difficult > > > to understand. If I repeat what I think he meant, he'll > say " yes " but then > > > change what he says if asked again. I guess he's just trying to > get me to > > > interpret for him? (I don't know). He's 3 1/2, and is on fish > oils and > > > just started Vit. E. Conferences are in Nov,. and his IEP will be > > > reviewed. I know I'm getting as frustrated as he is right now. > Poor > > > little > > > thing. > > > > > > We have an appt. scheduled for Jan. with a dev. Ped. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Cluttering is a fluency disorder related to but different than stuttering. Characteristics of clutttering can include fast rate of speech, monotone voice, mumbling, articulation errors, more errors in connected speech than in single words, omitting syllables in multisyllabic words, language difficulties, auditory processing difficulties, various dysfluencies, and child may be unaware of difficulties (even surprised). Auditory processing characteristics can include no or little babbling, difficulty attending to sounds/speech, incosistent responses to sounds/speech, articulation difficulties, trouble following directions, language difficulties, cluttering, noise aversion, distractibility, difficulty with academic skills, trouble sequencing tasks, disorganization, forgetfullness, and memory problems. As with apraxia, these diagnoses include a complex list of symptoms and some of the symptoms overlap. If a parent was concerned about any of these diagnoses, I would first recommend that they inquire with their doctor or speech therapist about screening or further testing for these concerns. Hope this helps. Katina > > > > You might consider having a speech therapist look into/rule out > > cluttering or auditory processing difficulties as well. Katina > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Cluttering is a fluency disorder related to but different than stuttering. Characteristics of clutttering can include fast rate of speech, monotone voice, mumbling, articulation errors, more errors in connected speech than in single words, omitting syllables in multisyllabic words, language difficulties, auditory processing difficulties, various dysfluencies, and child may be unaware of difficulties (even surprised). Auditory processing characteristics can include no or little babbling, difficulty attending to sounds/speech, incosistent responses to sounds/speech, articulation difficulties, trouble following directions, language difficulties, cluttering, noise aversion, distractibility, difficulty with academic skills, trouble sequencing tasks, disorganization, forgetfullness, and memory problems. As with apraxia, these diagnoses include a complex list of symptoms and some of the symptoms overlap. If a parent was concerned about any of these diagnoses, I would first recommend that they inquire with their doctor or speech therapist about screening or further testing for these concerns. Hope this helps. Katina > > > > You might consider having a speech therapist look into/rule out > > cluttering or auditory processing difficulties as well. Katina > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2006 Report Share Posted October 30, 2006 Thanks so much, Katina! This sounds quite a lot like my son. I read up on cluttering after you mentioned it. Then there is the stuttering relationship. On occassion, I stutter. But very rarely. It's usually either when I'm very tired, overly excited, or " multi tasking in my head. " It's like I get hung up on a word, or phrase, like I just can't get the word " up and over the hill. " Otherwise I'm quite articulate. What is also rather interesting is that about a month ago, I heard my son stutter (repeated a word twice). It was delivered in the same " rhythm " that I do. I then wondered if I was the one who had passed on some kind of dysfluency. Or, was it that he had heard me do it and subconsciously then internalized it. I haven't heard him do it again, but at the very least I am now attentive to it. I'm going to ask about this at his IEP meeting. Is there a specific screening test for it? Many thanks, On 10/30/06, katinaslp <katslp@...> wrote: > > Cluttering is a fluency disorder related to but different than > stuttering. Characteristics of clutttering can include fast rate of > speech, monotone voice, mumbling, articulation errors, more errors > in connected speech than in single words, omitting syllables in > multisyllabic words, language difficulties, auditory processing > difficulties, various dysfluencies, and child may be unaware of > difficulties (even surprised). > > Auditory processing characteristics can include no or little > babbling, difficulty attending to sounds/speech, incosistent > responses to sounds/speech, articulation difficulties, trouble > following directions, language difficulties, cluttering, noise > aversion, distractibility, difficulty with academic skills, trouble > sequencing tasks, disorganization, forgetfullness, and memory > problems. > > As with apraxia, these diagnoses include a complex list of symptoms > and some of the symptoms overlap. If a parent was concerned about > any of these diagnoses, I would first recommend that they inquire > with their doctor or speech therapist about screening or further > testing for these concerns. > > Hope this helps. > > Katina > > > > > > > > You might consider having a speech therapist look into/rule out > > > cluttering or auditory processing difficulties as well. Katina > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 Thanks so much, Katina! This sounds quite a lot like my son. I read up on cluttering after you mentioned it. Then there is the stuttering relationship. On occassion, I stutter. But very rarely. It's usually either when I'm very tired, overly excited, or " multi tasking in my head. " It's like I get hung up on a word, or phrase, like I just can't get the word " up and over the hill. " Otherwise I'm quite articulate. What is also rather interesting is that about a month ago, I heard my son stutter (repeated a word twice). It was delivered in the same " rhythm " that I do. I then wondered if I was the one who had passed on some kind of dysfluency. Or, was it that he had heard me do it and subconsciously then internalized it. I haven't heard him do it again, but at the very least I am now attentive to it. I'm going to ask about this at his IEP meeting. Is there a specific screening test for it? Many thanks, On 10/30/06, katinaslp <katslp@...> wrote: > > Cluttering is a fluency disorder related to but different than > stuttering. Characteristics of clutttering can include fast rate of > speech, monotone voice, mumbling, articulation errors, more errors > in connected speech than in single words, omitting syllables in > multisyllabic words, language difficulties, auditory processing > difficulties, various dysfluencies, and child may be unaware of > difficulties (even surprised). > > Auditory processing characteristics can include no or little > babbling, difficulty attending to sounds/speech, incosistent > responses to sounds/speech, articulation difficulties, trouble > following directions, language difficulties, cluttering, noise > aversion, distractibility, difficulty with academic skills, trouble > sequencing tasks, disorganization, forgetfullness, and memory > problems. > > As with apraxia, these diagnoses include a complex list of symptoms > and some of the symptoms overlap. If a parent was concerned about > any of these diagnoses, I would first recommend that they inquire > with their doctor or speech therapist about screening or further > testing for these concerns. > > Hope this helps. > > Katina > > > > > > > > You might consider having a speech therapist look into/rule out > > > cluttering or auditory processing difficulties as well. Katina > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 I like The Source for Stuttering and Cluttering which does have assessment tools in it as well as therapy techniques. I am glad the info helped. Please let us know how your IEP meeting goes and what you find out with any further screenings/assessments. Katina > > Thanks so much, Katina! This sounds quite a lot like my son. I read up on > cluttering after you mentioned it. > > Then there is the stuttering relationship. On occassion, I stutter. But > very rarely. It's usually either when I'm very tired, overly excited, or > " multi tasking in my head. " It's like I get hung up on a word, or phrase, > like I just can't get the word " up and over the hill. " Otherwise I'm quite > articulate. > > What is also rather interesting is that about a month ago, I heard my son > stutter (repeated a word twice). It was delivered in the same " rhythm " that > I do. I then wondered if I was the one who had passed on some kind of > dysfluency. Or, was it that he had heard me do it and subconsciously then > internalized it. I haven't heard him do it again, but at the very least I > am now attentive to it. > > I'm going to ask about this at his IEP meeting. Is there a specific > screening test for it? > > Many thanks, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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