Trisha and list with respect

[Guest guest]

Hi Val....addressing only the email service here...

You can rest assured that the problems with email have absolutely nothing to do

with whether we are set to reply to list or reply to poster. We've always had

periods of email woes, and we always will. That's just the way it goes. There

are so many factors that come into play in sending and receiving email, and

almost all of them are out of our control.

Until next time....

Trisha~mentor

He determines the number of the stars and calls them each by name...Psalm 147:4

sandlewood@...

2003-05-0715:04:05

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I am asking this and wondering if we could

" re-vote " the replies going to the list and the person.

I am wondering in view of how many emails I'm seeing with people saying they are

bouncing and not receiving answers to their emails in a timely manner including

me.

What if we voted again with a view that we would post to both the person and the

list so everyone could benefit from the answers and the person asking the

question could possibly get their answer faster??

Not trying to stir anything up, but I have not received answers to some of my

questions for over an hour and by then it is too late for me.

Anyone else care to share their feelings on this?

Val

[Guest guest]

>Seems to me the listowner should make a decision and everyone simply

>live with that decision and adjust accordingly.

That's how it came about Chuck. The subject came up, it was put to the

list for opinions, and every single reply supported the change to reply to

group. It was open for discussion for 2 days, then the settings were changed.

People need to just try clicking reply to sender for their list mail. I do know

that

even though sometimes mail comes with NMTC in there twice does not mean

that two copies comes through. I've been in lists for years with that and never

has it caused double mail. Some programs may react differently, who knows.

Until next time....

Trisha~mentor

He determines the number of the stars and calls them each by name...Psalm 147:4

sandlewood@...

2003-05-0715:10:05

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Just my $0.02, which doesn't count

for much since I'm a [re-]newbie

here ...

If there's one thing that really bugs me, it's receiving two copies

of e-mails, which is what will happen much of the time when list

settings are to reply to both list and sender. If it gets set up

that way, I'll probably bow back out, as my volume of mail is already

high enough without duplication.

Every post that comes through can be replied to either via the list,

or individually, or both when the occasion seems to warrant it. (The

sender's e-mail address IS there and doesn't need to be in one's

address book, but it may require a tiny bit of effort to send to it

when it's necessary to do so.)

Whichever method is chosen, there will always be those that like it

and those that don't. I've seen this same disagreement come up on

virtually every list I'm on.

Seems to me the listowner should make a decision and everyone simply

live with that decision and adjust accordingly.

Okay, so $0.03 ...

> I agree Valpie.. I liked it the way it was when I hit reply all and

> it went to the list and to the questioner so they'd get their answer

> faster in case Yahoo was being yahooey. I, too, need answers more

> quickly because I'm transcribing online, not from tapes, so I don't

> have the option to go back to it later.

>

> The way it is now if I hit reply all it goes to the list twice, and

> I know that has to be annoying to the other list members, plus it

> clogs things up I would think.

>

> For example, just now I was unable to respond to LysaMT privately to

> let her know her post came through because I don't have her email

> address in my address book. Just my 2 cents.

[Guest guest]

> I asked the question because I now use PocoMail exclusively and it

> is fantastic in my book! I tried Pegasus and didn't like how

> complicated it made everything look...to me anyway. Poco is great,

> fast, and inexpensive and is now in beta-testing for PocoMail 3.0.

> They also have great support and a forum for questions/answers. Any

> questions I have had usually been answered in way less than 24 hrs.

>

>

> It works with NAV and isn't NEARLY as susceptible to viruses!

I have checked it out in the past, at least a couple of times. I've

always ended up scrapping it and going on to something else, though I

don't remember why. Something about it bugged me, but I'm at a loss

when it comes to remembering what it was.

Another good one (free, because it's no longer in development) is

Calypso.

Lots of them out there ... it's just a matter of finding which one

works best for you.

[Guest guest]

I've looked everywhere, but I can't find anything where I would change the

addresses from friendly names to actual email addresses. It may not be possible

in OE 6 which is what I'm using. Thanks for trying to help though

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

Re: Trisha and list with

>respect

>

>

>I certainly understand double responses would be annoying to you, so

>I see your point I just can't seem to figure out how to respond

>to someone privately, so perhaps you or someone else could educate

>me in that area. When this was discussed before, it was mentioned

>that one could just copy and paste the sender's email address to in

>order to respond privately, but I can't figure out where to copy and

>paste it from if it's not in an obvious place on their email. I

>guess I'm just OE challenged.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

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Ok Trisha, now that Chuck has been so nice and explained this to me,

I'll be quiet and go with the majority

~smile~

Until next time....

Trisha~mentor

He determines the number of the stars

and calls them each by name...Psalm 147:4

sandlewood@...

2003-05-0715:30:09

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Thank you once again for taking

the time to explain that to me. I was sooo frustrated and felt so dumb. I

had just resigned myself to not being able to email anyone privately.

Ok Trisha, now that Chuck has been so nice and explained this to me, I'll be

quiet and go with the majority

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

Re: Trisha and list with respect

> And therein was my confusion... I'm not sure why you can see my

> email address, but for you I just see Rennie. For most people I just

> see their names, not email addresses, so that's why I couldn't

> figure out how to copy and paste their address

Yep ... Outlook Express (and Outlook) show you the " friendly " address

which, in most cases, is just the name, but the info is actually

there, hidden, and brought to the cliboard by that right-click/copy

method.

[Guest guest]

Hmm, I thought it was setup that you didn't see the senders email address in

the email heading.....Does anyone know if IncrediMail XE allows for this?

All I see, bare with menoow,........is NMTC address when I read he mail and

also when hitting reply.

I am able to right click the mail in my inbox and go to properties if I want

to see the senders email address.....but would have to highlight it and

paste it into an email to send privately. Very odd.....I must be missing

something.

Oddly enough, it doesn't happen every single time that I open the group

email, but certainly 95% of the time, it doesn't have the senders email

address showing.

c

-- Re: Trisha and list with respect

Thank you once again for taking the time to explain that to me. I was

sooo frustrated and felt so dumb. I had just resigned myself to not being

able to email anyone privately.

Ok Trisha, now that Chuck has been so nice and explained this to me, I'll be

quiet and go with the majority

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

Re: Trisha and list with respect

> And therein was my confusion... I'm not sure why you can see my

> email address, but for you I just see Rennie. For most people I just

> see their names, not email addresses, so that's why I couldn't

> figure out how to copy and paste their address

Yep ... Outlook Express (and Outlook) show you the " friendly " address

which, in most cases, is just the name, but the info is actually

there, hidden, and brought to the cliboard by that right-click/copy

method.

[Guest guest]

Trish,

I love your sig line!

Sylvia Roller

M-TEC Student - Session 4-5

gentlsong@...

AIM: Jntlsong

>>Seems to me the listowner should make a decision and everyone

>>simply live with that decision and adjust accordingly.

>That's how it came about Chuck. The subject came up, it was put to

>the list for opinions, and every single reply supported the change

>to reply to group. It was open for discussion for 2 days, then the

>settings were changed.

>People need to just try clicking reply to sender for their list

>mail. I do know that even though sometimes mail comes with NMTC in

>there twice does not mean that two copies comes through. I've been

>in lists for years with that and never has it caused double mail.

>Some programs may react differently, who knows.

>

>Until next time....

>Trisha~mentor He determines the number of the stars and calls them

>each by name...Psalm 147:4 sandlewood@... 2003-05-

>0715:10:05

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>::<>:::::: Just my

>$0.02, which doesn't count for much since I'm a [re-]newbie here ...

>

>If there's one thing that really bugs me, it's receiving two copies

>of e-mails, which is what will happen much of the time when list

>settings are to reply to both list and sender. If it gets set up

>that way, I'll probably bow back out, as my volume of mail is

>already high enough without duplication.

>

>Every post that comes through can be replied to either via the list,

> or individually, or both when the occasion seems to warrant it.

>(The sender's e-mail address IS there and doesn't need to be in

>one's address book, but it may require a tiny bit of effort to send

>to it when it's necessary to do so.)

>

>Whichever method is chosen, there will always be those that like it

>and those that don't. I've seen this same disagreement come up on

>virtually every list I'm on.

>

>Seems to me the listowner should make a decision and everyone simply

> live with that decision and adjust accordingly.

>

>Okay, so $0.03 ...

>

>

>

>>I agree Valpie.. I liked it the way it was when I hit reply all and

>>it went to the list and to the questioner so they'd get their

>>answer faster in case Yahoo was being yahooey. I, too, need answers

>>more quickly because I'm transcribing online, not from tapes, so I

>>don't have the option to go back to it later.

>>

>>The way it is now if I hit reply all it goes to the list twice, and

>>I know that has to be annoying to the other list members, plus it

>>clogs things up I would think.

>>

>>For example, just now I was unable to respond to LysaMT privately

>>to let her know her post came through because I don't have her

>>email address in my address book. Just my 2 cents.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Chuck...who tries to avoid OE,

What do you use when you're not using OE?

TIA!

Sylvia Roller

M-TEC Student - Session 4-5

gentlsong@...

AIM: Jntlsong

>

>

>>Yeah but, Chuck, why can *I* see the email addy of the OP when I do

>>a reply? I use OE 5.5. I've looked in my settings (options) but I

>>haven't found anything yet. This is just how it's always been for

>>me and I never questioned it.

>

>Dunno ... I only have OE6 on my system. But, if I remember

>correctly, there was a bit of a change in how messages were handled

>in the 5.5 to 6.0 transition. Other than that, I have no idea.

>

>I try to avoid OE unless I need it to send annoying background

>sounds to deserving people on another list. -)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jan,

NOW I understand what your problem is! I can't remember the

complete path because I don't use OE anymore, but options is under

something on the menu bar. It may say internet options. It may be

there or address book, but there are choices for how to display your

'From' addresses. It sounds like you have it set to nick only or not

to display email addy in from line. Changing that should set you

straight.

HTH!

Sylvia Roller

M-TEC Student - Session 4-5

gentlsong@...

AIM: Jntlsong

>And therein was my confusion... I'm not sure why you can see my

>email address, but for you I just see Rennie. For most people I

>just see their names, not email addresses, so that's why I couldn't

>figure out how to copy and paste their address

>

>Jan jantranscribes@... " Typing is my life. " " Whoever signs the

>paycheck makes the rules. "

>

> Re: Trisha and list with

>respect

>

>

>I certainly understand double responses would be annoying to you, so

>I see your point I just can't seem to figure out how to respond

>to someone privately, so perhaps you or someone else could educate

>me in that area. When this was discussed before, it was mentioned

>that one could just copy and paste the sender's email address to in

>order to respond privately, but I can't figure out where to copy and

>paste it from if it's not in an obvious place on their email. I

>guess I'm just OE challenged.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Chuck,

I asked the question because I now use PocoMail exclusively and it is

fantastic in my book! I tried Pegasus and didn't like how complicated

it made everything look...to me anyway. Poco is great, fast, and

inexpensive and is now in beta-testing for PocoMail 3.0. They also

have great support and a forum for questions/answers. Any questions

I have had usually been answered in way less than 24 hrs.

It works with NAV and isn't NEARLY as susceptible to viruses!

You might want to check it out.

Sylvia Roller

M-TEC Student - Session 4-5

gentlsong@...

AIM: Jntlsong

>

>

>>Chuck...who tries to avoid OE,

>>

>>What do you use when you're not using OE?

>

>I'm currently using Pegasus (free) -- http://www.pmail.com -- but

>searching for another e-mail client. I used Outlook and Outlook

>Express for a long time, but they're such system hogs (particularly

>the former) that I'd rather use something less resource-intensive on

> my system and faster to use with the high volume of mail I receive

>(not to mention less prone to viruses).

>

>In the past, I've used Becky! and The Bat!, Japanese and Moldavian

>clients, respectively, and they're both good, but not free (cheap,

>though).

>

>There's a new one in development that I'm beta testing called

>CleverCactus, and it's run entirely in Java, with a built-in

>calendar, to do list, etc., much like Outlook, but it's in early

>development and rather buggy.

>

>In short, you never know what I'll show up using, though with

>plaintext only here it won't be as obvious as it would on HTML-

>capable lists.

>

>MUCH more than you wanted to hear, I know ...

>

>

[Guest guest]

I had also checked out PocoMail in the past and rejected it for a

long time. Then for some reason, I took another look at it (after

Pegasus) and decided I liked it and couldn't remember why I didn't

the first time! Probably because the first time, it wouldn't do

html but it will now.

I've also tried Calypso and a lot of others but Poco won out.

Sylvia Roller

M-TEC Student - Session 4-5

gentlsong@...

AIM: Jntlsong

>

>

>>I asked the question because I now use PocoMail exclusively and it

>>is fantastic in my book! I tried Pegasus and didn't like how

>>complicated it made everything look...to me anyway. Poco is great,

>>fast, and inexpensive and is now in beta-testing for PocoMail 3.0.

>>They also have great support and a forum for questions/answers. Any

>>questions I have had usually been answered in way less than 24 hrs.

>>

>>

>>It works with NAV and isn't NEARLY as susceptible to viruses!

>

>I have checked it out in the past, at least a couple of times. I've

>always ended up scrapping it and going on to something else, though

>I don't remember why. Something about it bugged me, but I'm at a

>loss when it comes to remembering what it was.

>

>Another good one (free, because it's no longer in development) is

>Calypso.

>

>Lots of them out there ... it's just a matter of finding which one

>works best for you.

>

>