Trisha and list with respect

[Guest guest]

I am asking this and wondering if we could " re-vote " the replies going to the

list and the person.

I am wondering in view of how many emails I'm seeing with people saying they are

bouncing and not receiving answers to their emails in a timely manner including

me.

What if we voted again with a view that we would post to both the person and the

list so everyone could benefit from the answers and the person asking the

question could possibly get their answer faster??

Not trying to stir anything up, but I have not received answers to some of my

questions for over an hour and by then it is too late for me.

Anyone else care to share their feelings on this?

Val

[Guest guest]

Just my $0.02, which doesn't count for much since I'm a [re-]newbie

here ...

If there's one thing that really bugs me, it's receiving two copies

of e-mails, which is what will happen much of the time when list

settings are to reply to both list and sender. If it gets set up

that way, I'll probably bow back out, as my volume of mail is already

high enough without duplication.

Every post that comes through can be replied to either via the list,

or individually, or both when the occasion seems to warrant it. (The

sender's e-mail address IS there and doesn't need to be in one's

address book, but it may require a tiny bit of effort to send to it

when it's necessary to do so.)

Whichever method is chosen, there will always be those that like it

and those that don't. I've seen this same disagreement come up on

virtually every list I'm on.

Seems to me the listowner should make a decision and everyone simply

live with that decision and adjust accordingly.

Okay, so $0.03 ...

> I agree Valpie.. I liked it the way it was when I hit reply all and

> it went to the list and to the questioner so they'd get their answer

> faster in case Yahoo was being yahooey. I, too, need answers more

> quickly because I'm transcribing online, not from tapes, so I don't

> have the option to go back to it later.

>

> The way it is now if I hit reply all it goes to the list twice, and

> I know that has to be annoying to the other list members, plus it

> clogs things up I would think.

>

> For example, just now I was unable to respond to LysaMT privately to

> let her know her post came through because I don't have her email

> address in my address book. Just my 2 cents.

[Guest guest]

I agree Valpie.. I liked it the way it was when I hit reply all and it went to

the list and to the questioner so they'd get their answer faster in case Yahoo

was being yahooey. I, too, need answers more quickly because I'm transcribing

online, not from tapes, so I don't have the option to go back to it later.

The way it is now if I hit reply all it goes to the list twice, and I know that

has to be annoying to the other list members, plus it clogs things up I would

think.

For example, just now I was unable to respond to LysaMT privately to let her

know her post came through because I don't have her email address in my address

book. Just my 2 cents.

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

Trisha and list with respect

I am asking this and wondering if we could " re-vote " the replies going to the

list and the person.

I am wondering in view of how many emails I'm seeing with people saying they

are bouncing and not receiving answers to their emails in a timely manner

including me.

What if we voted again with a view that we would post to both the person and

the list so everyone could benefit from the answers and the person asking the

question could possibly get their answer faster??

Not trying to stir anything up, but I have not received answers to some of my

questions for over an hour and by then it is too late for me.

Anyone else care to share their feelings on this?

Val

[Guest guest]

In your response this is where it shows up on my email in box. I don't know

if it would be the same for every email set up. I underlined, hi-lited and

italicized it so you can see it. It does take as much of an effort to do it

this way as to just hit delete if we chose the other way. So, yes, once the

decision is made and Trish has done this as democratically as possible by

having us vote, I think it should be set. Hope this helps.

Aliceanne

At 02:05 PM 5/7/2003 -0400, you wrote:

>Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 14:05:42 -0400

>

>Subject: Re: Trisha and list with respect

>X-Sender: jantranscribes@...

>To: NMTC

[Guest guest]

> I certainly understand double responses would be annoying to you, so

> I see your point I just can't seem to figure out how to respond

> to someone privately, so perhaps you or someone else could educate

> me in that area. When this was discussed before, it was mentioned

> that one could just copy and paste the sender's email address to in

> order to respond privately, but I can't figure out where to copy and

> paste it from if it's not in an obvious place on their email. I

> guess I'm just OE challenged.

It's not as easy if you're reading in preview mode in Outlook Express

6, like you use ... but, if you rightclick the message in the inbox

listing, choose Open, then rightclick on the name in the From line

and choose Copy, it puts that person's address in your clipboard.

You can then paste it into the To line of the message you're sending,

either in addition to the NMTC list, or instead of, whatever.

[Guest guest]

I certainly understand double responses would be annoying to you, so I see your

point I just can't seem to figure out how to respond to someone privately,

so perhaps you or someone else could educate me in that area. When this was

discussed before, it was mentioned that one could just copy and paste the

sender's email address to in order to respond privately, but I can't figure out

where to copy and paste it from if it's not in an obvious place on their email.

I guess I'm just OE challenged.

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

Re: Trisha and list with respect

Just my $0.02, which doesn't count for much since I'm a [re-]newbie

here ...

If there's one thing that really bugs me, it's receiving two copies

of e-mails, which is what will happen much of the time when list

settings are to reply to both list and sender. If it gets set up

that way, I'll probably bow back out, as my volume of mail is already

high enough without duplication.

Every post that comes through can be replied to either via the list,

or individually, or both when the occasion seems to warrant it. (The

sender's e-mail address IS there and doesn't need to be in one's

address book, but it may require a tiny bit of effort to send to it

when it's necessary to do so.)

Whichever method is chosen, there will always be those that like it

and those that don't. I've seen this same disagreement come up on

virtually every list I'm on.

Seems to me the listowner should make a decision and everyone simply

live with that decision and adjust accordingly.

Okay, so $0.03 ...

> I agree Valpie.. I liked it the way it was when I hit reply all and

> it went to the list and to the questioner so they'd get their answer

> faster in case Yahoo was being yahooey. I, too, need answers more

> quickly because I'm transcribing online, not from tapes, so I don't

> have the option to go back to it later.

>

> The way it is now if I hit reply all it goes to the list twice, and

> I know that has to be annoying to the other list members, plus it

> clogs things up I would think.

>

> For example, just now I was unable to respond to LysaMT privately to

> let her know her post came through because I don't have her email

> address in my address book. Just my 2 cents.

[Guest guest]

When I open my in box I get a whole heading that runs like this.

Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 14:17:39 -0400

Subject: Re: Trisha and list with respect

X-Sender: jantranscribes@...

To: NMTC

Reply-to: NMTC

Message-id:

MIME-version: 1.0

X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106

X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106

Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII

Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

X-Priority: 3

X-MSMail-priority: Normal

Precedence: bulk

Delivered-to: mailing list NMTC

Mailing-List: list NMTC ; contact NMTC-owner

X-eGroups-Return:

sentto-1087069-60388-1052330749-aasawyer=optonline.net@...

X-Apparently-To: NMTC

X-Yahoo-Profile: jantranscribes

References: <3EB8FFC6.5589.2B11F23@localhost>

List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:NMTC-unsubscribe >

Original-recipient: rfc822;aasawyer@...

I know very little about this stuff as far as formatting. I saw Chuck's

response and he is much wiser in this stuff. Hope he can help.

Oh, the line that says who it is from is X-Sender: above, if it works this

time.

Hope so.

Aliceanne

At 02:17 PM 5/7/2003 -0400, you wrote:

>Gosh, Aliceanne, now I'm really lost, I don't see anything underlined,

>hi-lited, or italicized. Obviously I'm missing something here.

>

>Jan

>jantranscribes@...

> " Typing is my life. "

> " Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

>

> Re: Trisha and list with respect

> >X-Sender: jantranscribes@...

> >To: NMTC

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am finding that many hit reply all now, so that I get two copies anyway, but

it sure would be nice if my answer got to me quicker. I do have a delete button,

so I just delete.

Val

Re: Trisha and list with respect

Just my $0.02, which doesn't count for much since I'm a [re-]newbie

here ...

If there's one thing that really bugs me, it's receiving two copies

of e-mails, which is what will happen much of the time when list

settings are to reply to both list and sender. If it gets set up

that way, I'll probably bow back out, as my volume of mail is already

high enough without duplication.

Every post that comes through can be replied to either via the list,

or individually, or both when the occasion seems to warrant it. (The

sender's e-mail address IS there and doesn't need to be in one's

address book, but it may require a tiny bit of effort to send to it

when it's necessary to do so.)

Whichever method is chosen, there will always be those that like it

and those that don't. I've seen this same disagreement come up on

virtually every list I'm on.

Seems to me the listowner should make a decision and everyone simply

live with that decision and adjust accordingly.

Okay, so $0.03 ...

> I agree Valpie.. I liked it the way it was when I hit reply all and

> it went to the list and to the questioner so they'd get their answer

> faster in case Yahoo was being yahooey. I, too, need answers more

> quickly because I'm transcribing online, not from tapes, so I don't

> have the option to go back to it later.

>

> The way it is now if I hit reply all it goes to the list twice, and

> I know that has to be annoying to the other list members, plus it

> clogs things up I would think.

>

> For example, just now I was unable to respond to LysaMT privately to

> let her know her post came through because I don't have her email

> address in my address book. Just my 2 cents.

[Guest guest]

Gosh, Aliceanne, now I'm really lost, I don't see anything underlined, hi-lited,

or italicized. Obviously I'm missing something here.

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

Re: Trisha and list with respect

>X-Sender: jantranscribes@...

>To: NMTC

[Guest guest]

Thank you for these instructions. Did you see the lightbulb come on?

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

Re: Trisha and list with respect

> I certainly understand double responses would be annoying to you, so

> I see your point I just can't seem to figure out how to respond

> to someone privately, so perhaps you or someone else could educate

> me in that area. When this was discussed before, it was mentioned

> that one could just copy and paste the sender's email address to in

> order to respond privately, but I can't figure out where to copy and

> paste it from if it's not in an obvious place on their email. I

> guess I'm just OE challenged.

It's not as easy if you're reading in preview mode in Outlook Express

6, like you use ... but, if you rightclick the message in the inbox

listing, choose Open, then rightclick on the name in the From line

and choose Copy, it puts that person's address in your clipboard.

You can then paste it into the To line of the message you're sending,

either in addition to the NMTC list, or instead of, whatever.

[Guest guest]

My sentiments exactly....not only that...how would we know the question was

answered correctly or for that matter.....even answered? Sometimes you just

have to see what's best and not what's easier on some. There are many

members on this list, and not everyone is going to be happy with the way

e-mail is set up.....ya just have to adjust sometimes.

Can the email be set up where you see the senders email address along with

it going to the list? That might help.

c

-- Re: Trisha and list with respect

Just my $0.02, which doesn't count for much since I'm a [re-]newbie

here ...

If there's one thing that really bugs me, it's receiving two copies

of e-mails, which is what will happen much of the time when list

settings are to reply to both list and sender. If it gets set up

that way, I'll probably bow back out, as my volume of mail is already

high enough without duplication.

Every post that comes through can be replied to either via the list,

or individually, or both when the occasion seems to warrant it. (The

sender's e-mail address IS there and doesn't need to be in one's

address book, but it may require a tiny bit of effort to send to it

when it's necessary to do so.)

Whichever method is chosen, there will always be those that like it

and those that don't. I've seen this same disagreement come up on

virtually every list I'm on.

Seems to me the listowner should make a decision and everyone simply

live with that decision and adjust accordingly.

Okay, so $0.03 ...

> I agree Valpie.. I liked it the way it was when I hit reply all and

> it went to the list and to the questioner so they'd get their answer

> faster in case Yahoo was being yahooey. I, too, need answers more

> quickly because I'm transcribing online, not from tapes, so I don't

> have the option to go back to it later.

>

> The way it is now if I hit reply all it goes to the list twice, and

> I know that has to be annoying to the other list members, plus it

> clogs things up I would think.

>

> For example, just now I was unable to respond to LysaMT privately to

> let her know her post came through because I don't have her email

> address in my address book. Just my 2 cents.

[Guest guest]

If you look at the header info below it's also what is found when you're in

OE and you right-mouse click on an email in your inbox and select Options.

When the dialog box pops up then at the bottom you will see the header info

listed and you can scroll through it to find the From: line and then

highlight the email address and hit CTRL-C to copy it. You can then close

the box and and hit reply to the message you want to reply to and either

wipe out the group address from the To: line or click at the end of it and

hit CTRL-V to paste the address in.

If you have another email program you may be able to right-mouse click on

the message in your inbox and when the menu comes up have a " Properties "

selection that you can click on. That will give you the senders address

right in plain view and you can highlight it and then copy and paste it when

you hit reply. I use Incredimail (I know....I should use OE or O like real

techs but I like the fun stuff in Incredimail) and have this option. I'm not

sure about AOL but it wouldn't hurt to try right-mouse clicking on an email

in your inbox and see if you get a menu.

This does take a little longer than just having the person's email address

right in the email when you hit reply but it should only be a matter of

seconds more and not minutes once you've done it a few times and know what

you're looking for. The header info can look confusing because it runs all

together but you just have to search for the From and it's usually right at

the top of the header info or towards the middle.

HTH,

Lissette Scruggs

MedQuist/SE - less than one year

M-TEC Grad July of 2002

-- Re: Trisha and list with respect

X-Sender: jantranscribes@...

To: NMTC

Reply-to: NMTC

Message-id:

MIME-version: 1.0

X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106

X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106

Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII

Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

X-Priority: 3

X-MSMail-priority: Normal

Precedence: bulk

Delivered-to: mailing list NMTC

Mailing-List: list NMTC ; contact NMTC-owner

X-eGroups-Return:

sentto-1087069-60388-1052330749-aasawyer=optonline.net@...

com

X-Apparently-To: NMTC

X-Yahoo-Profile: jantranscribes

References: <3EB8FFC6.5589.2B11F23@localhost>

List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:NMTC-unsubscribe >

Original-recipient: rfc822;aasawyer@...

I know very little about this stuff as far as formatting. I saw Chuck's

response and he is much wiser in this stuff. Hope he can help.

Oh, the line that says who it is from is X-Sender: above, if it works this

time.

Hope so.

Aliceanne

At 02:17 PM 5/7/2003 -0400, you wrote:

>Gosh, Aliceanne, now I'm really lost, I don't see anything underlined,

>hi-lited, or italicized. Obviously I'm missing something here.

>

>Jan

>jantranscribes@...

> " Typing is my life. "

> " Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

>

> Re: Trisha and list with respect

> >X-Sender: jantranscribes@...

> >To: NMTC

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I can always see the email address when I hit reply. Like for this message from

you that I am replying to, I see:

To: <NMTC >

Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 1:05 PM

Subject: Re: Trisha and list with respect

I use OE, but I'm not sure what I am doing to make it show me your address.

It's always there though, and I will copy paste it into the Cc: box if I want my

reply to go to the original poster as well as the list. Maybe someone else

knows how to make it do this for you. Which email program do you use?

Rennie

Re: Trisha and list with respect

I certainly understand double responses would be annoying to you, so I see your

point I just can't seem to figure out how to respond to someone privately,

so perhaps you or someone else could educate me in that area. When this was

discussed before, it was mentioned that one could just copy and paste the

sender's email address to in order to respond privately, but I can't figure out

where to copy and paste it from if it's not in an obvious place on their email.

I guess I'm just OE challenged.

[Guest guest]

That's because this group is set to plain text only and will strip any

formatting.

Rennie

Re: Trisha and list with respect

Gosh, Aliceanne, now I'm really lost, I don't see anything underlined, hi-lited,

or italicized. Obviously I'm missing something here.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for taking the time to answer, but options is not one of the choices I

get when I right click on an email. Luckily, Chuck's instructions worked for me

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

Re: Trisha and list with respect

> >X-Sender: jantranscribes@...

> >To: NMTC

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> And therein was my confusion... I'm not sure why you can see my

> email address, but for you I just see Rennie. For most people I just

> see their names, not email addresses, so that's why I couldn't

> figure out how to copy and paste their address

Yep ... Outlook Express (and Outlook) show you the " friendly " address

which, in most cases, is just the name, but the info is actually

there, hidden, and brought to the cliboard by that right-click/copy

method.

[Guest guest]

And therein was my confusion... I'm not sure why you can see my email address,

but for you I just see Rennie. For most people I just see their names, not

email addresses, so that's why I couldn't figure out how to copy and paste their

address

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

Re: Trisha and list with respect

I certainly understand double responses would be annoying to you, so I see

your point I just can't seem to figure out how to respond to someone

privately, so perhaps you or someone else could educate me in that area. When

this was discussed before, it was mentioned that one could just copy and paste

the sender's email address to in order to respond privately, but I can't figure

out where to copy and paste it from if it's not in an obvious place on their

email. I guess I'm just OE challenged.

[Guest guest]

Oh duh.. I forgot about that. Well at least it wasn't just me

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

Re: Trisha and list with respect

Gosh, Aliceanne, now I'm really lost, I don't see anything underlined,

hi-lited, or italicized. Obviously I'm missing something here.

[Guest guest]

Yeah but, Chuck, why can *I* see the email addy of the OP when I do a reply? I

use OE 5.5. I've looked in my settings (options) but I haven't found anything

yet. This is just how it's always been for me and I never questioned it.

Rennie

Re: Trisha and list with respect

> And therein was my confusion... I'm not sure why you can see my

> email address, but for you I just see Rennie. For most people I just

> see their names, not email addresses, so that's why I couldn't

> figure out how to copy and paste their address

Yep ... Outlook Express (and Outlook) show you the " friendly " address

which, in most cases, is just the name, but the info is actually

there, hidden, and brought to the cliboard by that right-click/copy

method.

[Guest guest]

> Yeah but, Chuck, why can *I* see the email addy of the OP when I do

> a reply? I use OE 5.5. I've looked in my settings (options) but I

> haven't found anything yet. This is just how it's always been for me

> and I never questioned it.

Dunno ... I only have OE6 on my system. But, if I remember

correctly, there was a bit of a change in how messages were handled

in the 5.5 to 6.0 transition. Other than that, I have no idea.

I try to avoid OE unless I need it to send annoying background sounds

to deserving people on another list. ;-)

[Guest guest]

Thank you once again for taking the time to explain that to me. I was sooo

frustrated and felt so dumb. I had just resigned myself to not being able to

email anyone privately.

Ok Trisha, now that Chuck has been so nice and explained this to me, I'll be

quiet and go with the majority

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

Re: Trisha and list with respect

> And therein was my confusion... I'm not sure why you can see my

> email address, but for you I just see Rennie. For most people I just

> see their names, not email addresses, so that's why I couldn't

> figure out how to copy and paste their address

Yep ... Outlook Express (and Outlook) show you the " friendly " address

which, in most cases, is just the name, but the info is actually

there, hidden, and brought to the cliboard by that right-click/copy

method.

[Guest guest]

I'm anxiously awaiting the answer to this one, Rennie

Jan

jantranscribes@...

" Typing is my life. "

" Whoever signs the paycheck makes the rules. "

Re: Trisha and list with respect

> And therein was my confusion... I'm not sure why you can see my

> email address, but for you I just see Rennie. For most people I just

> see their names, not email addresses, so that's why I couldn't

> figure out how to copy and paste their address

Yep ... Outlook Express (and Outlook) show you the " friendly " address

which, in most cases, is just the name, but the info is actually

there, hidden, and brought to the cliboard by that right-click/copy

method.

[Guest guest]

> Chuck...who tries to avoid OE,

>

> What do you use when you're not using OE?

I'm currently using Pegasus (free) -- http://www.pmail.com -- but

searching for another e-mail client. I used Outlook and Outlook

Express for a long time, but they're such system hogs (particularly

the former) that I'd rather use something less resource-intensive on

my system and faster to use with the high volume of mail I receive

(not to mention less prone to viruses).

In the past, I've used Becky! and The Bat!, Japanese and Moldavian

clients, respectively, and they're both good, but not free (cheap,

though).

There's a new one in development that I'm beta testing called

CleverCactus, and it's run entirely in Java, with a built-in

calendar, to do list, etc., much like Outlook, but it's in early

development and rather buggy.

In short, you never know what I'll show up using, though with

plaintext only here it won't be as obvious as it would on HTML-

capable lists.

MUCH more than you wanted to hear, I know ...

[Guest guest]

I don't. I use cable and Eudora. My computer guru since he charges only

for parts and not labor and comes asap demands it. Another demand he makes

is NO AOL. I have no problem and don't miss either one of them.

Aliceanne

At 04:30 PM 5/7/2003 -0700, you wrote:

>Chuck...who tries to avoid OE,

>

>What do you use when you're not using OE?

>

>TIA!

>

>Sylvia Roller

>M-TEC Student - Session 4-5

>gentlsong@...

>AIM: Jntlsong

>

>

>

>

>

> >

> >

> >>Yeah but, Chuck, why can *I* see the email addy of the OP when I do

> >>a reply? I use OE 5.5. I've looked in my settings (options) but I

> >>haven't found anything yet. This is just how it's always been for

> >>me and I never questioned it.

> >

> >Dunno ... I only have OE6 on my system. But, if I remember

> >correctly, there was a bit of a change in how messages were handled

> >in the 5.5 to 6.0 transition. Other than that, I have no idea.

> >

> >I try to avoid OE unless I need it to send annoying background

> >sounds to deserving people on another list. -)

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hmmmm, When I click " reply " , I see NMTC just once. If I click

" reply all, " the same thing shows up twice.. No actual sender address.

To see the sender's Email in OE, I have to right click on the message in the

Email box and choose properties.

Sometimes my messages don't go through and sometimes they take a long time to go

through. One time I noticed one message went through 20 minutes after a message

I sent after it. It seems as though sometimes I don't get all the messages

because I'll see an answer I didn't see the question to!

How confused am I!? LOL

a

Re: Trisha and list with respect

I certainly understand double responses would be annoying to you, so I see

your point I just can't seem to figure out how to respond to someone

privately, so perhaps you or someone else could educate me in that area. When

this was discussed before, it was mentioned that one could just copy and paste

the sender's email address to in order to respond privately, but I can't figure

out where to copy and paste it from if it's not in an obvious place on their

email. I guess I'm just OE challenged.