Guest guest Posted February 22, 2003 Report Share Posted February 22, 2003 > > Does your children have " formed " bowel movements? The nurse at > > school says that this is not a normal thing. Putter's poops are always formed unless he is sick or something. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 On what authority does the school nurse have to request this from you in the first place? How asinine. Call her and ask her to put her request in writing. If she asks why, tell her you will then take the letter to your school district for review before providing her with the information she needs. I wish I had the time tonite to compile a list of web links for you which discuss the large percentage of autistic children with bowel issues due to vaccine damage and resulting food intolerances. I have an IEP in the morning, unfortunately, and must focus on that tonite, sorry. -BJ in polis, MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 My oldest son , is 9, autistic, non-verbal. He is not potty trained. The school is harrassing me about his bowel movements. They have always been soft, not formed. The school nurse wants " documentation " that this is a normal thing for . Which means I either got to decide to take him to the medicaid doctor, and make it an all day trip and hope to hell she understands what I need from her or I take him to the doctor who is experienced with Autism, spend the $25 and whatever else it costs for tests. (the kids are also on hubby's insurance, didn't cost extra to add them when we added the baby, so we did) Does your children have " formed " bowel movements? The nurse at school says that this is not a normal thing. sorry for the crappy subject ;0) Leigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 LOL.....Greggory never has! He is potty trained though. Why on earth would she need documentation?!!!! This is stupid. ugh. Jacquie H The subject of poop My oldest son , is 9, autistic, non-verbal. He is not potty trained. The school is harrassing me about his bowel movements. They have always been soft, not formed. The school nurse wants " documentation " that this is a normal thing for . Which means I either got to decide to take him to the medicaid doctor, and make it an all day trip and hope to hell she understands what I need from her or I take him to the doctor who is experienced with Autism, spend the $25 and whatever else it costs for tests. (the kids are also on hubby's insurance, didn't cost extra to add them when we added the baby, so we did) Does your children have " formed " bowel movements? The nurse at school says that this is not a normal thing. sorry for the crappy subject ;0) Leigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 In a message dated 3/5/03 7:05:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, nospam@... writes: > Does your children have " formed " bowel movements? The nurse at > school says that this is not a normal thing. She never never never did until I took her off milk. Then gave me a hard time about this at school until I told them that she was being seen at CHOP for a gastrointestinal problem and that I would let them know the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Documentation? You word isn't good enough? Tell her it's normal, it's the way he's always been and should she need more than that you'd like to know why and what law requires it. Screw her and her documentation. debbi --- Win a $50 Avon Gift Certificate! http://snurl.com/vb7 > My oldest son , is 9, autistic, non-verbal. He is not potty > trained. The school is harrassing me about his bowel movements. They > have always been soft, not formed. The school nurse > wants " documentation " that this is a normal thing for . Which > means I either got to decide to take him to the medicaid doctor, and > make it an all day trip and hope to hell she understands what I need > from her or I take him to the doctor who is experienced with Autism, > spend the $25 and whatever else it costs for tests. (the kids are > also on hubby's insurance, didn't cost extra to add them when we > added the baby, so we did) > > Does your children have " formed " bowel movements? The nurse at > school says that this is not a normal thing. > > sorry for the crappy subject ;0) > > Leigh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Go Debbi!!!!!! Jacquie H RE: The subject of poop Documentation? You word isn't good enough? Tell her it's normal, it's the way he's always been and should she need more than that you'd like to know why and what law requires it. Screw her and her documentation. debbi --- Win a $50 Avon Gift Certificate! http://snurl.com/vb7 > My oldest son , is 9, autistic, non-verbal. He is not potty > trained. The school is harrassing me about his bowel movements. They > have always been soft, not formed. The school nurse > wants " documentation " that this is a normal thing for . Which > means I either got to decide to take him to the medicaid doctor, and > make it an all day trip and hope to hell she understands what I need > from her or I take him to the doctor who is experienced with Autism, > spend the $25 and whatever else it costs for tests. (the kids are > also on hubby's insurance, didn't cost extra to add them when we > added the baby, so we did) > > Does your children have " formed " bowel movements? The nurse at > school says that this is not a normal thing. > > sorry for the crappy subject ;0) > > Leigh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Oh, I forgot to answer. Buster's aren't formed either, but I don't have any documentation of it. > Re: The subject of poop > > > LOL.....Greggory never has! He is potty trained though. Why > on earth would she need documentation?!!!! This is stupid. ugh. > Jacquie H > The subject of poop > > > My oldest son , is 9, autistic, non-verbal. He is not potty > trained. The school is harrassing me about his bowel > movements. They > have always been soft, not formed. The school nurse > wants " documentation " that this is a normal thing for . Which > means I either got to decide to take him to the medicaid > doctor, and > make it an all day trip and hope to hell she understands > what I need > from her or I take him to the doctor who is experienced > with Autism, > spend the $25 and whatever else it costs for tests. (the kids are > also on hubby's insurance, didn't cost extra to add them when we > added the baby, so we did) > > Does your children have " formed " bowel movements? The nurse at > school says that this is not a normal thing. > > sorry for the crappy subject ;0) > > Leigh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Well, seriously, do you think the doctor knows more about his poop than his mother?? Puh-leez! debbi --- Win a $50 Avon Gift Certificate! http://snurl.com/vb7 > Go Debbi!!!!!! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 I just dont know why the school needs to know...unless he is sick. Jacquie H RE: The subject of poop Well, seriously, do you think the doctor knows more about his poop than his mother?? Puh-leez! debbi --- Win a $50 Avon Gift Certificate! http://snurl.com/vb7 > Go Debbi!!!!!! --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Adding onto this: Documentation could be a journal of his BMs for a week, would she like that. Oh, don't get me started. dbebi > > > Well, seriously, do you think the doctor knows more about his > poop than his > mother?? Puh-leez! > > debbi > --- > Win a $50 Avon Gift Certificate! > http://snurl.com/vb7 > > > > Go Debbi!!!!!! > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/03 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Talking to myself AND misspelling my name in the same post. Ugh. > > Adding onto this: Documentation could be a journal of his BMs > for a week, would > she like that. Oh, don't get me started. > > dbebi --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Debbi is a bit hot under the collar over this subject. Jacquie H RE: The subject of poop Talking to myself AND misspelling my name in the same post. Ugh. > > Adding onto this: Documentation could be a journal of his BMs > for a week, would > she like that. Oh, don't get me started. > > dbebi --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Maybe you should just send her two weeks worth of samples of the unformed poop, numbered and dated in baggies? LOL Now wouldn't she be sorry she asked! Leggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 eeeeeeeeeeewwwwwww! Gross! LOL She would diffenately be sorry! Jacquie H Re: The subject of poop Maybe you should just send her two weeks worth of samples of the unformed poop, numbered and dated in baggies? LOL Now wouldn't she be sorry she asked! Leggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 I guess she just wants to make sure there is no virus or bacteria. the dumb woman actually said he might have a bowel obstruction. Now, the classroom aide had told her she hasn't seen a formed bm from james in 2 years. So he had had an obstruction for 2 years????? i told her if he did, he would have gotten real deathly sick a couple years ago. Sheesh. Anyway, i'm going to ask the doctor to do a culture on him, and then get a medical release so she can communicate directly to the doctor herself. > I just dont know why the school needs to know...unless he is sick. > Jacquie H > RE: The subject of poop > > > Well, seriously, do you think the doctor knows more about his poop than his > mother?? Puh-leez! > > debbi > --- > Win a $50 Avon Gift Certificate! > http://snurl.com/vb7 > > > > Go Debbi!!!!!! > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/03 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Debbi, Can i have the school nurse call you? lol Better yet, i'll buy you a plane ticket and you can land on her with both feet. Leigh > Talking to myself AND misspelling my name in the same post. Ugh. > > > > Adding onto this: Documentation could be a journal of his BMs > > for a week, would > > she like that. Oh, don't get me started. > > > > dbebi > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Oh and one more thing. Tell her if she insists on documentation from a medical professional, you will have to insist on reimbursement for not only the doctor visit, but transportation costs as well as your time wasted. Ugh. -BJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Huh? You have to document that it's " normal " ? And what if it isn't? What is it to her? If your son is otherwise healthy, and has regular (to you) bowel movements, then " form " , I don't feel, is a big deal. Jacqui has a whole set of digestive issues, and sometimes hers are NOT formed. If Jacqui was not potty trained, I still can't IMAGINE anyone at the school district harassing me about it. geez. Penny The subject of poop My oldest son , is 9, autistic, non-verbal. He is not potty trained. The school is harrassing me about his bowel movements. They have always been soft, not formed. The school nurse wants " documentation " that this is a normal thing for . Which means I either got to decide to take him to the medicaid doctor, and make it an all day trip and hope to hell she understands what I need from her or I take him to the doctor who is experienced with Autism, spend the $25 and whatever else it costs for tests. (the kids are also on hubby's insurance, didn't cost extra to add them when we added the baby, so we did) Does your children have " formed " bowel movements? The nurse at school says that this is not a normal thing. sorry for the crappy subject ;0) Leigh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 hee hee hee hee hee Re: The subject of poop Maybe you should just send her two weeks worth of samples of the unformed poop, numbered and dated in baggies? LOL Now wouldn't she be sorry she asked! Leggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Hey! Good one, BJ. Penny Re: The subject of poop Oh and one more thing. Tell her if she insists on documentation from a medical professional, you will have to insist on reimbursement for not only the doctor visit, but transportation costs as well as your time wasted. Ugh. -BJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Yes I agree with Debbi. Everyone's bowel functions are individual to them, and unless there is runny diarrhea poop, then I find it odd they'd be questioning it. However, there are GI diseases out there that will present with certain types of poop as in Fatty stools, chronically loose or hard. If this is a normal thing for him, then ask her why she is concerned about the bowels. By law, she can't tell you that she would suspect any certain diseases as nurses can't diagnose their patients. Try to tip-toe her into some more information which might be vital to talking to the doctor about, or ask her specifically if there is a certain test she'd like to have done and tell her you'll ask the doctor about it. You might find that since your child is non-verbal, she might just be advocating for him and any discomfort he might be experiencing. > Documentation? You word isn't good enough? Tell her it's normal, it's the way he's > always been and should she need more than that you'd like to know why and what law > requires it. Screw her and her documentation. > > debbi > --- > Win a $50 Avon Gift Certificate! > http://snurl.com/vb7 > > > My oldest son , is 9, autistic, non-verbal. He is not potty > > trained. The school is harrassing me about his bowel movements. They > > have always been soft, not formed. The school nurse > > wants " documentation " that this is a normal thing for . Which > > means I either got to decide to take him to the medicaid doctor, and > > make it an all day trip and hope to hell she understands what I need > > from her or I take him to the doctor who is experienced with Autism, > > spend the $25 and whatever else it costs for tests. (the kids are > > also on hubby's insurance, didn't cost extra to add them when we > > added the baby, so we did) > > > > Does your children have " formed " bowel movements? The nurse at > > school says that this is not a normal thing. > > > > sorry for the crappy subject ;0) > > > > Leigh > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 Well, this is the point. She (as an agent of the state) is directing something that really isn't required. debbi > > Oh and one more thing. Tell her if she insists on documentation from > a medical professional, you will have to insist on reimbursement for > not only the doctor visit, but transportation costs as well as your > time wasted. > > Ugh. > > -BJ > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 > The school nurse wants " documentation " that this is a normal thing for < why don't you ask her if her poop is " normally " formed. what a nutjob :-O ------------------------- gina, 31, ny single mom to - kailey, 8, autism, hyperlexia, depression, anxiety, OCD, DSI trevor, 3, multiple developmental delays, no " official " dx yet parker jade, due 7-20-03 :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2003 Report Share Posted March 5, 2003 > Does your children have " formed " bowel movements? The nurse at school says that this is not a normal thing. < btw, kailey has always had VERY formed poop. they're pretty much like big rabbit turds. in fact, she doesn't wipe and she doesn't even have to and i would not call that normal at all. ------------------------- gina, 31, ny single mom to - kailey, 8, autism, hyperlexia, depression, anxiety, OCD, DSI trevor, 3, multiple developmental delays, no " official " dx yet parker jade, due 7-20-03 :-D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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