please help me

February 4, 2004

I am not advising you in any way, but I can tell you my experience.

This is just a small piece of what I have learned. I'm working on a

book and setting up a website.

Here is the very short version, but I will make public the many years to

took to get to this, for myself, mind you.

I treat mercury poisoning by acknowledging a few things:

1. There is no cure.

2. I can die faster or slower, but there is no cure.

3. My immune system is going to kill me, not the mercury that triggered it.

With that in mind, I began paying close attention to stuff.

1. First, I took the clocks off the walls, having been legally disabled.

2. I drove everyone out of my life and rolled up my sleeves and began

observing myself.

3. When I started with the muscle cramps, a light went on: I got the

same cramps when I was a kid and riding my bicycle to muscle fatige. I

decided to approach this as if I was being worn out from the inside. I

imagine that I am tied on to my bike and will be riding it for the rest

of my life. That caused me to think through a few more things:

4. If I'm riding a bike, I need small sips of water and small bites of

food often. I'm thinking that our weight problem is because our body

can only process so much food at a time and then the galloping immune

process takes over again, trying to sound every alert that there is

something in our brain that needs to be out of there. That never

stops. So we are truly hungry and fat because we eat too much at one

time and when we overextend our digestive capability, we haven't gotten

the nutrients we think we put in there and we go way too long until the

next food.

Same with water. It's got to get in there, but I never see a bike rider

take more than a big swallow at one time.

5. Here's a dark side: While I know I am being worn out from the

inside and therefore tired, etc. I have to realize that my lungs are

not being triggered to work harder to keep up with this activity! So,

in essence, we are being slowly asphixiated! That has to be addressed.

People only get oxygen tanks weeks before they die. I want one now!

6. Jumping to the latest: After decades I stopped looking at the

symptoms and I began to zero in on the fact that I was able to make

adjustments and push back symptoms here and there. I wanted to know

what part of me did that. I finally realized that I don't think with my

brain! My eternal ME is now available to take over some of the brain's

job. I'm not very good at that and that is no cure, but it keeps me

independent.

7. I take adderall -- speed, to be blunt. The brain is able to repel

toxins to a degree in parts of the brain and mercury -- bless it --

lodges just out of reach, but visible to autoimmune cells, in the region

of the hippocampus/amygdala region. Yep, that place that is haywire and

not processing trauma and running it through our brains. That is a

fascinating story for later.

The adderall is stimulating my frontal lobes and so I am able to

" ignore " the global pain I now live in. I can lose myself in some

project. I'm out of the pothole where the storm is going on. I am

vigilant that I do not translate this medication into physical activity

or a heart attack will arrive soon. Computers are great for this approach.

I am working on writing up organizational tasks. Actually, I'm on my

last legs with language. This is the most energy sapping feature, I

think. I'm moving toward music and graphics. Trying to communicate and

putting up with stupidity and abuse and all of that is just wasting my

precious time. I'm coming near to just divorcing language altogether.

It has been a nightmare overall.

I have not tried any chelation. All I see is how sick people get and I

guard carefully what I give my energy over to.

That's part of my story, a very small part.

Here is my advice about advice: I tell people to pretend that they are

hearing about their problem from someone they love. When we listen to

another's problems we know just what they should do. So, pretend it's

someone else, decide what *they* should do and then do it yourself.

Learning to take your own advice is the hardest lesson and the most

valuable, if you ask me on a good day.

Bess

johnandkimmyw@... wrote:

> i have been chelating every 3 hours with 25mg of ala and 50 mg of

> dmsa. every round makes me so sick i have to stop after 2 days. i get

> chronic fatigue, depression, insomnia and stomach cramps. i do have

> rectocele, cystocele, an autoimmune disorder and have lost over half

> my hair. do i need to forget about ever chelating if it makes me this

> sick? or tough it out until i can handle the rounds? i have an

> autistic daughter i'm scared to chelate if she will feel anything like

> me. i got very ill sanding in the house and getting all my amalgams

> replaced by a terrible dentist over 4 months ago.

> we have a sauna at our place. should i just stick with that?

> please advise. thank you

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February 4, 2004

How do you know that the dentist got all the mercury out? How long ago did you

have them out? Do you have any root canals? How did the dentist go about

removing your fillings? What other toxic metals do you have in your system?

How's your copper level? What supplements do you take? How's your diet? How

recently have you had vaccines? Have you tried DMSA alone or ALA alone? I

would at least try them separately to see if that's better (unless you still

have some mercury or have high copper levels).

S

>

i have been chelating every 3 hours with 25mg of ala and 50 mg of dmsa. every

round makes me so sick i have to stop after 2 days. i get chronic fatigue,

depression, insomnia and stomach cramps. i do have rectocele, cystocele, an

autoimmune disorder and have lost over half my hair. do i need to forget about

ever chelating if it makes me this sick? or tough it out until i can handle the

rounds? i have an autistic daughter i'm scared to chelate if she will feel

anything like me. i got very ill sanding in the house and getting all my

amalgams replaced by a terrible dentist over 4 months ago.

we have a sauna at our place. should i just stick with that?

please advise. thank you

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February 4, 2004

Try cutting DMSA back to 25mg. If that doesn't work, try 12.5mg of

DMSA on the following round.

Also, make sure you are giving all the appropriate supps for

chelation - B vitamins, vitamins A & C, omega 3s, antioxidants and

extra minerals. See the files section for info on this.

Good luck

Steve

February 4, 2004

Sending you a big BIG hug. I'm sorry you're in such a bad place.

Depression is so horrible and I've been there a lot in my life so I

feel your pain.

The thing I wish I had known from the beginning (fillings removed 7

years ago) is that, as the other poster said, it's not so much about

the mercury as what you do to support your body. If I get enough of

everything, and it's taken me 7 years to figure out exactly how much

I need of everything to compensate for what the mercury does to me,

then I can handle work, life, and even do some chelation. If I feel

really horrible it means I'm deficient in something, so I do my

detective work to figure out what it is. I still have relapses if I

push myself too hard but I love the analogy about the bike rider.

That's exactly it. We're on warp nine when most people would be on

two. The fires inside are burning up nutrients at an astounding pace

and we have to just remember what stress our entire system is under.

I wish I had known:

1. The body knows what it wants. Follow your cravings and if

something is a big draw for you figure out what it's high in and take

note. You're probably low in it. (If you're digging all the meat

out of the stir-fry, you're probably anemic or zinc deficient, for

example).

2. Smell sometimes can be very helpful. Your nose knows what the

body wants and if you are repelled by something there is a reason.

Trust that. I stick my nose in jars of supplements and just clear my

mind and see what kind of reaction I have to the smell.

I finally figured out the suffering is from the deficiencies, not the

mercury. You can recreate health artificially (it's real but it

comes form a bottle) while you go about getting the mercury out so

I'd be sure you have all that in order before you go kicking the

mercury out.

The filling removals kicks a lot of mercury into your system, for at

least a few months. I found a study of people who had intercellular

magnesium levels taken, then sent on a marathon hike and 3 months

later they still hadn't recovered to the point they were at before

the hike. Any stressor takes time to recover from and you have to

alternate the building/cleansing periods. " To everything there is a

season " . It's the same with mercury detox. Support is key. Your

best defense is getting the Prescription for Healing book and

devouring the first sections about nutrients and the deficiency

symptoms associated with each. Memorize it. Learn your body's

language. I know now when my left foot pulses I need spleen support.

Thick sinus drainage is kidney. Shiney nose is b-6. When my hair

comes out in the shower it's iron, crust in my eyes in the morning is

A. I have a whole mental checklist. Some things are universal but

you have to learn *your* language. If your body is saying " help " it

needs something. I don't attribute anything to " aging " anymore, or

to mercury. It means I'm running on empty somewhere and I have to

find the right tank and fill it up.

I'd start with just one of those chelators and add the other in

later. You do build a tolerance and it's hardest the first few days

of each level. Start very very low with just one thing. If you

still are having problems pay attention to what they are and do

internet searches for those symptoms. I'll be glad to help if you

want to send me symptom lists. I might be able to suggest you look

into certain deficiencies. And if you have to, wait until you have

the nutrients in order. I could have never handled chelation in the

beginning and on some level I knew it. I didn't have the stuff I

needed on board for my body to handle it.

The other thing I wish I'd done differently....I paid so much

attention to all the warnings about going toxic on certain

nutrients. I stayed anemic for years because I was afraid to take

too much iron. I needed SO much of nearly everything and I had to

work up to those levels to be sure I didn't overshoot it but I

starved my body for years of some things out of fear.

I believe I could have pulled out of the really bad stuff in a matter

of weeks if I'd have taken the amounts of stuff I do now, but I

didn't know, so I went very slowly and attributed the suffering to

the mercury as though nothing could be done about it. A lot can be

done. We're like buckets with holes in them. You can't fix the

holes in a day or even a year, but if you keep the water levels up,

you'll be almost as ok as if there were no holes in the bucket at

all.

THERE IS HOPE. Study yourself, write yourself a user's manual for

your own body and you trust your instincts. They're right on when

you're sick, because they have to be. It's a primal gift that most

of us don't know we have but it's there. I even hold my hands out,

one is yes, one is no and I ask about something and wait to see which

one drops. I tell myself that the one that gets heavy is my answer

and I swearrrrrrr it works. Your body knows, even if your brain

doesn't know how to decipher it, or if it's too sick to. All is

energy and our bodies never stop telling us what they need. We just

need to make the effort to learn its language.

I'd look into magnesium given what you've described. Whenever I

can't sleep it's almost always magnesium. Depression is either iron

or magnesium or hormones. If it's not magnesium then it might be iron

as mag needs iron to be absorbed. (or both) Iron def. does cause

hair loss also. Have you looked into that? I need 300 mg morning

and night at the very least. Some days twice that if I'm really

active or chelating.

You're not alone...you will get better. Baby steps...

Jen

> i have been chelating every 3 hours with 25mg of ala and 50 mg of

dmsa. every round makes me so sick i have to stop after 2 days. i get

chronic fatigue, depression, insomnia and stomach cramps. i do have

rectocele, cystocele, an autoimmune disorder and have lost over half

my hair. do i need to forget about ever chelating if it makes me this

sick? or tough it out until i can handle the rounds? i have an

autistic daughter i'm scared to chelate if she will feel anything

like me. i got very ill sanding in the house and getting all my

amalgams replaced by a terrible dentist over 4 months ago.

> we have a sauna at our place. should i just stick with that?

> please advise. thank you

February 4, 2004

If DMSA/ALA are causing problems, you might try IonCleanse(BioCleanse) (foot

bath with ion generator). I have one and it works for most people I am aware of

who've used it. I also know someone who uses porphyrazyme/cilantro in his

practice for detox(with upregulation).

I can tell you how if you want to try it.

Bernie

February 4, 2004