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This is probably been covered before but I'm relatively new to

AFIBSupport so I'll ask anyway.

Through all the years of AFIB, all the ablations, all the

cardioversions, all the drugs, the only test that was done was to

check my thyroid. It was fine but I've always wondered if there are

other systemic problems that could manifest themselves through A-Fib.

I'm thinking about hormone/enzyme imbalances (other than those caused

by the thyroid), nervous system disorders or even allergies and drug

sensitivities.

Personally, I have lipomas all over the place, have since childhood,

and it's aften made me wounder if one couldn't be pushing on a nerve

or a gland or if the underlying cause of the multiple lipomas couldn't

be somehow related to the A-Fib.

I'd be interested in your opinions.

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Garrett, you pose some interesting questions. The causative factors often

mentioned are stuctural or functional heart problems, CAD, hypertension,

hyperthyroid condition, and stimulant or alcohol consumption. Personally I have

never seen any mention of allergies, drug sensitivities, or lipomas. It may be

that connections have been made, and I haven't seen the literature.

garrett63376 garrett63376@...> wrote:

This is probably been covered before but I'm relatively new to

AFIBSupport so I'll ask anyway.

Through all the years of AFIB, all the ablations, all the

cardioversions, all the drugs, the only test that was done was to

check my thyroid. It was fine but I've always wondered if there are

other systemic problems that could manifest themselves through A-Fib.

I'm thinking about hormone/enzyme imbalances (other than those caused

by the thyroid), nervous system disorders or even allergies and drug

sensitivities.

Personally, I have lipomas all over the place, have since childhood,

and it's aften made me wounder if one couldn't be pushing on a nerve

or a gland or if the underlying cause of the multiple lipomas couldn't

be somehow related to the A-Fib.

I'd be interested in your opinions.

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> This is probably been covered before but I'm relatively new to

Don't forget sleep apnea as a causative factor.

> AFIBSupport so I'll ask anyway.

>

> Through all the years of AFIB, all the ablations, all the

> cardioversions, all the drugs, the only test that was done was to

> check my thyroid. It was fine but I've always wondered if there are

> other systemic problems that could manifest themselves through A-Fib.

>

> I'm thinking about hormone/enzyme imbalances (other than those caused

> by the thyroid), nervous system disorders or even allergies and drug

> sensitivities.

>

> Personally, I have lipomas all over the place, have since childhood,

> and it's aften made me wounder if one couldn't be pushing on a nerve

> or a gland or if the underlying cause of the multiple lipomas couldn't

> be somehow related to the A-Fi>

> I'd be interested in your opinions.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

> List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

> For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email,

> send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

>

> Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or

should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

>

>

>

>

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Good point, I'm scheduled to see a sleep specialist in a few weeks

Thanks

> > This is probably been covered before but I'm relatively new to

> Don't forget sleep apnea as a causative factor.

>

> > AFIBSupport so I'll ask anyway.

> >

> > Through all the years of AFIB, all the ablations, all the

> > cardioversions, all the drugs, the only test that was done was to

> > check my thyroid. It was fine but I've always wondered if there are

> > other systemic problems that could manifest themselves through A-Fib.

> >

> > I'm thinking about hormone/enzyme imbalances (other than those caused

> > by the thyroid), nervous system disorders or even allergies and drug

> > sensitivities.

> >

> > Personally, I have lipomas all over the place, have since childhood,

> > and it's aften made me wounder if one couldn't be pushing on a nerve

> > or a gland or if the underlying cause of the multiple lipomas couldn't

> > be somehow related to the A-Fi>

>

>

> > I'd be interested in your opinions.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

> > List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

> > For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via email,

> > send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

> >

> > Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or

> should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Garrett - Let me know what the results of the test are. Phyllis

> > > This is probably been covered before but I'm relatively new to

> > Don't forget sleep apnea as a causative factor.

> >

> > > AFIBSupport so I'll ask anyway.

> > >

> > > Through all the years of AFIB, all the ablations, all the

> > > cardioversions, all the drugs, the only test that was done was to

> > > check my thyroid. It was fine but I've always wondered if there are

> > > other systemic problems that could manifest themselves through

A-Fib.

> > >

> > > I'm thinking about hormone/enzyme imbalances (other than those

caused

> > > by the thyroid), nervous system disorders or even allergies and drug

> > > sensitivities.

> > >

> > > Personally, I have lipomas all over the place, have since childhood,

> > > and it's aften made me wounder if one couldn't be pushing on a nerve

> > > or a gland or if the underlying cause of the multiple lipomas

couldn't

> > > be somehow related to the A-Fi>

> >

> >

> > > I'd be interested in your opinions.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

> > > List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

> > > For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via

email,

> > > send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

> > >

> > > Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or

> > should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hi Phyllis,

At this point there are no tests planned. I will be talking to my EP

on Tuesday, though, and will ask him if he thinks it's worth pursuing.

If he's like my GP, he'll simply blow it off.

I'll let you know either way, though.

Thanx,

Garrett

> > > > This is probably been covered before but I'm relatively new to

> > > Don't forget sleep apnea as a causative factor.

> > >

> > > > AFIBSupport so I'll ask anyway.

> > > >

> > > > Through all the years of AFIB, all the ablations, all the

> > > > cardioversions, all the drugs, the only test that was done was to

> > > > check my thyroid. It was fine but I've always wondered if

there are

> > > > other systemic problems that could manifest themselves through

> A-Fib.

> > > >

> > > > I'm thinking about hormone/enzyme imbalances (other than those

> caused

> > > > by the thyroid), nervous system disorders or even allergies

and drug

> > > > sensitivities.

> > > >

> > > > Personally, I have lipomas all over the place, have since

childhood,

> > > > and it's aften made me wounder if one couldn't be pushing on a

nerve

> > > > or a gland or if the underlying cause of the multiple lipomas

> couldn't

> > > > be somehow related to the A-Fi>

> > >

> > >

> > > > I'd be interested in your opinions.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

> > > > List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

> > > > For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via

> email,

> > > > send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

> > > >

> > > > Nothing in this message should be considered as medical advice, or

> > > should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Garrett - There is plenty of evidence in the literature linking apnea

and a fib now; this isn't just my opinion or my anecdotal evidence.

My cardios also seemed disinterested. But I got the GP to refer me

for the sleep test. If your insurance does not require a referral

just find a doctor who is accredited in this area and go for it. If

you want a link about how to find an accredited sleep lab/doctor, let

me know. Phyllis

> > > > > This is probably been covered before but I'm relatively new to

> > > > Don't forget sleep apnea as a causative factor.

> > > >

> > > > > AFIBSupport so I'll ask anyway.

> > > > >

> > > > > Through all the years of AFIB, all the ablations, all the

> > > > > cardioversions, all the drugs, the only test that was done

was to

> > > > > check my thyroid. It was fine but I've always wondered if

> there are

> > > > > other systemic problems that could manifest themselves through

> > A-Fib.

> > > > >

> > > > > I'm thinking about hormone/enzyme imbalances (other than those

> > caused

> > > > > by the thyroid), nervous system disorders or even allergies

> and drug

> > > > > sensitivities.

> > > > >

> > > > > Personally, I have lipomas all over the place, have since

> childhood,

> > > > > and it's aften made me wounder if one couldn't be pushing on a

> nerve

> > > > > or a gland or if the underlying cause of the multiple lipomas

> > couldn't

> > > > > be somehow related to the A-Fi>

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > > I'd be interested in your opinions.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

> > > > > List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

> > > > > For help on how to use the group, including how to drive it via

> > email,

> > > > > send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

> > > > >

> > > > > Nothing in this message should be considered as medical

advice, or

> > > > should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Cardiologists are weird beasts. My first cardiologist recommended a

sleep study but would not make a referral. He felt that it would

somehow be usurping my GP. My EP just assumed I had apnea and even

told me to bring my CPAP to the hospital when I went in. When I told

him I'd never had a sleep study and asked him to refer me to a sleep

specialist, he again deferred to my GP.

I have set up an appointment but, as with most specialists these days,

it was set up for 6 weeks after I made the call. I still have a few

weeks to wait and that is just for the consultation. God knows how

long it will take to actually have the sleep study done.

Garrett

> > > > > > This is probably been covered before but I'm relatively

new to

> > > > > Don't forget sleep apnea as a causative factor.

> > > > >

> > > > > > AFIBSupport so I'll ask anyway.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Through all the years of AFIB, all the ablations, all the

> > > > > > cardioversions, all the drugs, the only test that was done

> was to

> > > > > > check my thyroid. It was fine but I've always wondered if

> > there are

> > > > > > other systemic problems that could manifest themselves through

> > > A-Fib.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I'm thinking about hormone/enzyme imbalances (other than those

> > > caused

> > > > > > by the thyroid), nervous system disorders or even allergies

> > and drug

> > > > > > sensitivities.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Personally, I have lipomas all over the place, have since

> > childhood,

> > > > > > and it's aften made me wounder if one couldn't be pushing on a

> > nerve

> > > > > > or a gland or if the underlying cause of the multiple lipomas

> > > couldn't

> > > > > > be somehow related to the A-Fi>

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > I'd be interested in your opinions.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

> > > > > > List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

> > > > > > For help on how to use the group, including how to drive

it via

> > > email,

> > > > > > send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Nothing in this message should be considered as medical

> advice, or

> > > > > should be acted upon without consultation with one's physician.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Garrett - maybe you can get on the cancellation lists?

> > > > > > > This is probably been covered before but I'm relatively

> new to

> > > > > > Don't forget sleep apnea as a causative factor.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > AFIBSupport so I'll ask anyway.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Through all the years of AFIB, all the ablations, all the

> > > > > > > cardioversions, all the drugs, the only test that was done

> > was to

> > > > > > > check my thyroid. It was fine but I've always wondered if

> > > there are

> > > > > > > other systemic problems that could manifest themselves

through

> > > > A-Fib.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'm thinking about hormone/enzyme imbalances (other than

those

> > > > caused

> > > > > > > by the thyroid), nervous system disorders or even allergies

> > > and drug

> > > > > > > sensitivities.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Personally, I have lipomas all over the place, have since

> > > childhood,

> > > > > > > and it's aften made me wounder if one couldn't be

pushing on a

> > > nerve

> > > > > > > or a gland or if the underlying cause of the multiple

lipomas

> > > > couldn't

> > > > > > > be somehow related to the A-Fi>

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > I'd be interested in your opinions.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Web Page - http://www.afibsupport.com

> > > > > > > List owner: AFIBsupport-owner

> > > > > > > For help on how to use the group, including how to drive

> it via

> > > > email,

> > > > > > > send a blank email to AFIBsupport-help

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Nothing in this message should be considered as medical

> > advice, or

> > > > > > should be acted upon without consultation with one's

physician.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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