Yeast Battle/Relapse - Advice?

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My son has had the BIG D for a week now and I'm trying to figure out

how to return him to status of 2-3 weeks ago. It started off as

explosive liquid - went to mucus - and is now mush with bits of

undigested food that burns his bottom. (Sorry, but I'm not sure

what details are important!)

He'd been SCD strict since April but we have been battling yeast for

the summer with only moderate success until I combined Nystatin with

Oil of Oregano. This was over the week of traveling for vacation

and just returning home - and I saw a huge language leap.

But, concerned about resistance I tried rotating to a combination

Nystatin with No Phenol and Candex at bedtime. This worked for 2

days and then the D started when I reintroduced nut yogurt (our

batch carried from home on vacation failed and his only probiotics

were CP Acid. for the last 3 days of vacation).

I tried cutting back volume on nut yogurt, but no improvement - so I

stopped it completely and went back to Nystatin with Oil of Oregeno,

even stopped Acid. fearing the probiotics were too strong.

His language has not regressed from the recent gains - but his

temper is worse than anything I've ever seen - whiny, aggressive,

emotional. I'm really having a hard time reading the signs - in the

past he had some D when a big yeast die-off, but only for a day, and

not the other things like mucus and burning.

So where do I go back to, or maybe " onto " is a better phrasing? Is

the intro diet any more " gentle " on his system? Could this be a

sign of something else intestinal - like bacteria?

AMK mom to Will 3.5 SCD since 4/04

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AMK,

It is always possible that he caught a virus while you were

traveling.

Whenever kids' stool regress, I always recommend going back

to as close to the intro diet as possible for a couple of days.

Then resume reintroducing peeled, well-cooked fruits and

veggies.

I do hope he is feeling better soon.

Jody

mom to -5 and -7

SCD 18 months

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AMK,

It's hard to know what might be going on here.... since you've made quite a few

changes. Going on vacation, with changes in routine, etc..... can upset the

system, too. I do know a couple of other parents who've said they've had

problems with yeast coming back after Nystatin. Have you ever tried the fresh

carrot juice with fresh garlic yeast treatment that has come up on this list?

Tamaro says it's the best yeast treatment by far..... over all the

prescription or natural antifungals she's tried. It sounds like you might be

dealing with a couple of different things..... one, you're seeing behavioral

stuff that makes me think " die off " , simply because you're seeing good things

(no regression) along with it..... then, two, you're seeing the D, which

definitely isn't OK. It does kinda sound like some kind of mild intestinal

infection.... with the mucous you've seen. I guess I would go back to a simpler,

blander diet..... make sure all fruits and veggies are peeled and cooked for a

while.... and just keep getting the acidophilus in somehow. Since there was no

change when you cut back on the nut yogurt, I'd be tempted to hang in there and

keep using it..... getting the good guys down there is so important. I don't

know how much oil of oregano you were using.... but I have heard that it's not

good to use it for more than a few days at a time. Pretty strong stuff. Maybe

you could consider taking a break from all the anti-fungals for a little

bit...... a week or so?..... to give his sytem a rest. Consider trying the

carrot juice thing...... if you can get him to do it.... or if he can tolerate

it (I think said she gave her boys 4 oz of fresh carrot juice with one

whole garlic clove crushed into it, twice a day for several weeks). I hope he's

better by now...... as I know you posted this a few days ago.

Patti, mom to Katera, SCD 14 months

Yeast Battle/Relapse - Advice?

My son has had the BIG D for a week now and I'm trying to figure out

how to return him to status of 2-3 weeks ago. It started off as

explosive liquid - went to mucus - and is now mush with bits of

undigested food that burns his bottom. (Sorry, but I'm not sure

what details are important!)

He'd been SCD strict since April but we have been battling yeast for

the summer with only moderate success until I combined Nystatin with

Oil of Oregano. This was over the week of traveling for vacation

and just returning home - and I saw a huge language leap.

But, concerned about resistance I tried rotating to a combination

Nystatin with No Phenol and Candex at bedtime. This worked for 2

days and then the D started when I reintroduced nut yogurt (our

batch carried from home on vacation failed and his only probiotics

were CP Acid. for the last 3 days of vacation).

I tried cutting back volume on nut yogurt, but no improvement - so I

stopped it completely and went back to Nystatin with Oil of Oregeno,

even stopped Acid. fearing the probiotics were too strong.

His language has not regressed from the recent gains - but his

temper is worse than anything I've ever seen - whiny, aggressive,

emotional. I'm really having a hard time reading the signs - in the

past he had some D when a big yeast die-off, but only for a day, and

not the other things like mucus and burning.

So where do I go back to, or maybe " onto " is a better phrasing? Is

the intro diet any more " gentle " on his system? Could this be a

sign of something else intestinal - like bacteria?

AMK mom to Will 3.5 SCD since 4/04

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I don't think diluted it..... and you wouldn't need to unless you

were brand new to SCD maybe. The best carrot juice would be freshly juiced at

home.

Patti

Re: Yeast Battle/Relapse - Advice?

Patti,

I'd like to try this treatment. Should I dilute the

juice before drinking?

Thank you,

SCD 3 3/4 years