RE: Ticks

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No doubt about it (being a pain). The little dog (aka " The Antichrist " ) did

get Lyme's a couple of years ago - not a pretty sight. He did recover with

antibiotics, but that's another life he's lost (he used to be a cat in a

former life . I check myself every night, from about now until August.

Arne

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Alive and (mostly) well in Minnesota

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Behalf Of Caroline & Aubrey

....It's moving north and has been found in Canada just south of us. Another

thing to worry about. Mutts can carry them into the house. So they need to

be looked at after every outdoor visit. That will be a pain if the dogs have

long fur...

Aubrey, MD

PSC '81, UC '90, LTX '98, Recurrence '05

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That

tick was so big it wasn't a tick. Ticks in general are much smaller

Ticks get bigger the longer they suck blood

from their host. After just a

little while they turn a grey color and I’ve seen them as big around as a

nickel. Considering where House

found that tick, it could have been that big – oh man I’m even

grossing myself out! I’ll

tell Ken to start checking every day.

Loved “nakers” What a hoot!

Thanks Doc,

Barb in Texas

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I just thought I'd add my two cents on this one because I was caught

unawares about just how small ticks could really be! When our son

was just a baby (2000), he had a tick. It was so small that for the

first day or two, I thought it was just a tiny scrape on his belly -

almost looked like a pimple. Well, after sucking his blood for about

two days, it grew large enough for me to see that it was a tick and

not jus the smallest of scratches. We removed it, put it in a

plastic back (dead) and called the pediatrician. She told us to

watch to see if he developed a rash around the site and then call

back if he did. Luckily, he never did get the rash.

When I was younger, ticks that we got running around were about the

size of nail head. This one was the size of a pin head (the small

end). I recall a neighbor's dog that got ticks that weren't removed

promptly and they grew as large as a couple of peas put together.

Her dogs got a lot cleaner after she had a near fatal experience

with lime disease...

Just thought I'd share. You really have to look hard to find them

sometimes!

Take care,

Deb in VA

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And I'd like to add that not everyone who contracts Lyme's Disease from the tick DOES get the rash. Sometimes it's simply a fever, or headaches, body aches, etc. There are a number of symptoms that a person can get, and not everyone gets the bull's eye rash, though it is the most common and therefore best known of to watch for. I'm glad, however, that your baby didn't get Lyme's. My mother got it 22 years ago. She was one of the very first cases in the state of Wisconsin, and one of the earlier cases in the country, even. It was pretty scary, because she was pregnant with my younger sister at the time, and we had no idea what, if any, impact this disease was going to have on the unborn baby. Thankfully my sister is fine. AmiDeb in VA wrote: I just thought I'd add my two cents on this one because I was caught unawares about just how small ticks could really be! When our son was just a baby (2000), he had a tick. It was so small that for the first day or two, I thought it was just a tiny scrape on his belly - almost looked like a pimple. Well, after sucking his blood for about two days, it grew large enough for me to see that it was a tick and not jus the smallest of scratches. We removed it, put it in a plastic back (dead) and called the pediatrician. She told us to watch to see if he developed a rash around the site and then call back if he did. Luckily, he never did get the rash.When I was younger, ticks that we got running around were about the size of nail head. This one was the size of a pin head (the small end). I recall a neighbor's dog that got ticks that weren't removed promptly and they grew

as large as a couple of peas put together. Her dogs got a lot cleaner after she had a near fatal experience with lime disease...Just thought I'd share. You really have to look hard to find them sometimes!Take care,Deb in VA

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Be sure to watch him for signs of arthritis down the road. That is one of the longterm affects to many people who get Lyme's. Arthritis, Fibromyalgia, etc. (Just something to keep an eye out for.) (Course, now I look and see you're in Minnesota, so you've probably got the little buggers equally to what we do in Wisconsin, so I probably didn't have to tell you that - LoL.) AmiA & J M wrote: No doubt about it (being a pain). The little dog (aka "The Antichrist") didget Lyme's a couple of years ago - not a pretty sight. He did recover withantibiotics, but that's another life he's lost (he used to be a cat in aformer life . I check myself every night, from about now until August.Arne54 - UC 1977, PSC

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I live in Wisconsin, and I guarantee that a tick will end up exactly where he found it, nakey or not. (I've never had one there, but I've had one close, and know at least one boy who had one on HIS there.) They will go where ever they have to go that is as hidden as they can find. And if, for example, you were wearing a bathing suit, obviously that leaves little area that's hidden. Also, depending on how long the tick has been there, it may well have been exactly that, as they do grow as they suck blood out of their host. Caroline & Aubrey wrote: Definitely an issue before or after tx. That was quite the story on House last evening. Particularly the end. That tick was so big it wasn't a tick. Ticks in general are much smaller and unless you're

running around nakers and lying in the grass, there isn't much likelihood of getting one where House found that one. Interesting case. In the area where this fictional hospital is located Lyme disease (tick born) is endemic. It's moving north and has been found in Canada just south of us. Another thing to worry about. Mutts can carry them into the house. So they need to be looked at after every outdoor visit. That will be a pain if the dogs have long fur. It's probably easier for Ken to do a full body inspection every morning and evening. As long as he's not too hairy! Hope this helps and doesn't scare the heck out of you. These things are fairly rare.Aubrey, MDPSC '81, UC '90, LTX '98, Recurrence '05

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Ami Where in Wisconsin do you live? We lived in Kenosha for many years before moving to NY. MartiAmi Fox wrote: Be sure to watch him for signs of arthritis down the road. That is one of the longterm affects to many people who get Lyme's. Arthritis, Fibromyalgia, etc. (Just something to keep an eye out for.) (Course, now I look and see you're in Minnesota, so you've probably got the little buggers equally to what we do in Wisconsin, so I probably didn't have to tell you that - LoL.) AmiA & J M wrote: No doubt about it (being a pain). The little dog (aka "The

Antichrist") didget Lyme's a couple of years ago - not a pretty sight. He did recover withantibiotics, but that's another life he's lost (he used to be a cat in aformer life . I check myself every night, from about now until August.Arne54 - UC 1977, PSC 2000Alive and (mostly) well in Minnesota How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.

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Black River Falls. I have some family in Kenosha. (Dad's side - very little contact). Marti wrote: Ami Where in Wisconsin do you live? We lived in Kenosha for many years before moving to NY. MartiAmi Fox wrote: Be sure to watch him for signs of arthritis down the road. That is one of the longterm affects to many people who get Lyme's. Arthritis, Fibromyalgia, etc. (Just something to keep an eye out for.) (Course, now I look and see you're in Minnesota, so you've probably got the little buggers equally to what we do in Wisconsin, so I probably

didn't have to tell you that - LoL.) AmiA & J M wrote: No doubt about it (being a pain). The little dog (aka "The Antichrist") didget Lyme's a couple of years ago - not a pretty sight. He did recover withantibiotics, but that's another life he's lost (he used to be a cat in aformer life . I check myself every night, from about now until August.Arne54 - UC 1977, PSC 2000Alive and (mostly) well in Minnesota How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates.

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Is that way north? MartiAmi Fox wrote: Black River Falls. I have some family in Kenosha. (Dad's side - very little contact). Marti wrote: Ami Where in Wisconsin do you live? We lived in Kenosha for many years before moving to NY. MartiAmi Fox wrote: Be sure to watch him for signs of arthritis down the road. That is one of the longterm affects to many people who get Lyme's.

Arthritis, Fibromyalgia, etc. (Just something to keep an eye out for.) (Course, now I look and see you're in Minnesota, so you've probably got the little buggers equally to what we do in Wisconsin, so I probably didn't have to tell you that - LoL.) AmiA & J M wrote: No doubt about it (being a pain). The little dog (aka "The Antichrist") didget Lyme's a couple of years ago - not a pretty sight. He did recover withantibiotics, but that's another life he's lost (he used to be a cat in aformer life . I check myself every night, from about now until August.Arne54 - UC 1977, PSC 2000Alive and (mostly) well in Minnesota How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min.

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If you know where Eau or LaCrosse are, we're about an hour-ish from either of those two, on I-94. Not terribly far north, though when we lived in Racine when I was a kid, we used to refer to it as "up north" - LoL. But when you're in Black River, "up north" now becomes Ashland, etc. LoL.Marti wrote: Is that way north? MartiAmi Fox wrote: Black River Falls. I have some family in Kenosha. (Dad's side - very little contact).

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