Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Is it like once an alcoholic always an alcoholic, even if you don't touch a drink in 20 years? Oh and one more thing..........CCCCOOOONNNNGGGRRRRAAAATTTSSSSSSS on your date!! I would do the happy dance, but I cant dance! LOL....... Mike T I have a date! > Whoooo Hoooooo, I have a date! October 24th. Everyone help me count the > days! I can't wait. > I saw my primary care physician today and he was not at all happy about my > bloodwork. My sugar was too high, my kidneys were spilling protien, bla > bla > bla, all that good stuff. He also was kind of upset I was having the RNY > instead > of the lap-band. He said he recommended it because it was reversible. I > told > him I wanted something that was long term, I was not going to go through > this to reverse it. He also said I will still have diabetes after > surgery, I > will always have it. Even if my blood sugar is normal due to diet change? > Is > that true? Anybody know? > Happy loosing to you! > Debi H > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Hi Debi H., My pcp said the same thing to me about the diabetes. I struggled to get my blood sugar below 120, per my surgeon's request, before the surgery. I did require insulin injections while in the hospital, however, since I have been home (wls 8/02/06), I have not taken nor needed any diabetes related medicines. My blood sugar has been in the low 80's to a high of 98. My pcp was not terribly supportive of me, but I guess she was wrong. so, do your best to keep your blood sugar down leading up to your surgery becauses that will affect your body's ability to heal, and afterward you should be great! Good luck, Debi (in S.F.) --- Debi2you@... wrote: > Whoooo Hoooooo, I have a date! October 24th. > Everyone help me count the > days! I can't wait. > I saw my primary care physician today and he was not > at all happy about my > bloodwork. My sugar was too high, my kidneys were > spilling protien, bla bla > bla, all that good stuff. He also was kind of upset > I was having the RNY instead > of the lap-band. He said he recommended it because > it was reversible. I told > him I wanted something that was long term, I was > not going to go through > this to reverse it. He also said I will still have > diabetes after surgery, I > will always have it. Even if my blood sugar is > normal due to diet change? Is > that true? Anybody know? > Happy loosing to > you! > Debi H > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 YEEEEEEEEEHAW! You go girl, mark them days off the calendar! Congrats! > I have a date! > > >> Whoooo Hoooooo, I have a date! October 24th. Everyone help me count the >> days! I can't wait. >> I saw my primary care physician today and he was not at all happy about >> my >> bloodwork. My sugar was too high, my kidneys were spilling protien, bla >> bla >> bla, all that good stuff. He also was kind of upset I was having the RNY >> instead >> of the lap-band. He said he recommended it because it was reversible. I >> told >> him I wanted something that was long term, I was not going to go through >> this to reverse it. He also said I will still have diabetes after >> surgery, I >> will always have it. Even if my blood sugar is normal due to diet >> change? >> Is >> that true? Anybody know? >> Happy loosing to you! >> Debi H >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 I heard that once u are diabetic u are always diabetic even if it becomes latent. I don't care, if it becomes latent, I'll be satisfied. --- Debi2you@... wrote: > Whoooo Hoooooo, I have a date! October 24th. > Everyone help me count the > days! I can't wait. > I saw my primary care physician today and he was not > at all happy about my > bloodwork. My sugar was too high, my kidneys were > spilling protien, bla bla > bla, all that good stuff. He also was kind of upset > I was having the RNY instead > of the lap-band. He said he recommended it because > it was reversible. I told > him I wanted something that was long term, I was > not going to go through > this to reverse it. He also said I will still have > diabetes after surgery, I > will always have it. Even if my blood sugar is > normal due to diet change? Is > that true? Anybody know? > Happy loosing to > you! > Debi H > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 22, 2006 Report Share Posted September 22, 2006 Yeah Debi !!! Good luck to you!!! Kim F RNY 6/23/06 298/229/135 > > Whoooo Hoooooo, I have a date! October 24th. Everyone help me count the > days! I can't wait. > I saw my primary care physician today and he was not at all happy about my > bloodwork. My sugar was too high, my kidneys were spilling protien, bla bla > bla, all that good stuff. He also was kind of upset I was having the RNY instead > of the lap-band. He said he recommended it because it was reversible. I told > him I wanted something that was long term, I was not going to go through > this to reverse it. He also said I will still have diabetes after surgery, I > will always have it. Even if my blood sugar is normal due to diet change? Is > that true? Anybody know? > Happy loosing to you! > Debi H > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 , That's not what I've heard from my surgeon and their patients. Where did you hear this? http://www.obesityaction.org/advocacy/weightlossfactsheet.php A meta-analysis study including more than 22,000 patients showed the following effects of surgery on co-morbidities: ¢ª Diabetes was completely resolved in 76.8% of patients. ¢ª High cholesterol was resolved or improved in more than 70% of patients. ¢ª High blood pressure was resolved in 61.7% of patients. ¢ª Sleep apnea was resolved in 85.7% of patients. Mike in GR > > > Whoooo Hoooooo, I have a date! October 24th. > > Everyone help me count the > > days! I can't wait. > > I saw my primary care physician today and he was not > > at all happy about my > > bloodwork. My sugar was too high, my kidneys were > > spilling protien, bla bla > > bla, all that good stuff. He also was kind of upset > > I was having the RNY instead > > of the lap-band. He said he recommended it because > > it was reversible. I told > > him I wanted something that was long term, I was > > not going to go through > > this to reverse it. He also said I will still have > > diabetes after surgery, I > > will always have it. Even if my blood sugar is > > normal due to diet change? Is > > that true? Anybody know? > > Happy loosing to > > you! > > Debi H > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Sorry to say but your PCP is right. Once a Diabetic always a diabetic. The only difference is after surgery due to change in eating habits you will be a diet controlled diabetic. But if you should go back to your old eating habits your sugars wiull rise again. (Illinois) Debi2you@... wrote: Whoooo Hoooooo, I have a date! October 24th. Everyone help me count the days! I can't wait. I saw my primary care physician today and he was not at all happy about my bloodwork. My sugar was too high, my kidneys were spilling protien, bla bla bla, all that good stuff. He also was kind of upset I was having the RNY instead of the lap-band. He said he recommended it because it was reversible. I told him I wanted something that was long term, I was not going to go through this to reverse it. He also said I will still have diabetes after surgery, I will always have it. Even if my blood sugar is normal due to diet change? Is that true? Anybody know? Happy loosing to you! Debi H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 , What's your source on this information? I was diagnosed as pre- diabetic by my PCP and now she's said I'm no longer pre-diabetic. Is she mistaken? Are you saying if I had become diabetic I would still be diabetic? I'd like to read some articles/information on this if you have them. Mike > Whoooo Hoooooo, I have a date! October 24th. Everyone help me count the > days! I can't wait. > I saw my primary care physician today and he was not at all happy about my > bloodwork. My sugar was too high, my kidneys were spilling protien, bla bla > bla, all that good stuff. He also was kind of upset I was having the RNY instead > of the lap-band. He said he recommended it because it was reversible. I told > him I wanted something that was long term, I was not going to go through > this to reverse it. He also said I will still have diabetes after surgery, I > will always have it. Even if my blood sugar is normal due to diet change? Is > that true? Anybody know? > Happy loosing to you! > Debi H > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Part of my diabetes care is an educational program. They give me journal articles and stuff to read, I meet with diabetes educators, nutritionists, that kind of thing. One of the articles talked about a " cure " for diabetes. The field states that patients once diagnosed as a diabetic will always be considered a diabetic even when the symptoms are alleviated or removed. This is called a latent diabetic, which kind of means that the diabetes is asleep and if the changes in lifestyle are not continued, it will wake up very quickly. MSNBC has a show on diabetes on Sunday and a couple months ago, they had a segment on it as well. Maybe they archive or something and u can check it out. It doesn't bother me at all to be latent, I realize that then it's easier for me to become active again. But really, it's so much better than popping pills and all the other complications that come along with it. --- Mike wrote: > , > > That's not what I've heard from my surgeon and their > patients. Where > did you hear this? > > http://www.obesityaction.org/advocacy/weightlossfactsheet.php > > A meta-analysis study including more than 22,000 > patients showed the > following effects of surgery on co-morbidities: > ¢ª Diabetes was completely resolved in 76.8% of > patients. > ¢ª High cholesterol was resolved or improved in more > than 70% of > patients. > ¢ª High blood pressure was resolved in 61.7% of > patients. > ¢ª Sleep apnea was resolved in 85.7% of patients. > > Mike in GR > > > > > > > Whoooo Hoooooo, I have a date! October 24th. > > > Everyone help me count the > > > days! I can't wait. > > > I saw my primary care physician today and he was > not > > > at all happy about my > > > bloodwork. My sugar was too high, my kidneys > were > > > spilling protien, bla bla > > > bla, all that good stuff. He also was kind of > upset > > > I was having the RNY instead > > > of the lap-band. He said he recommended it > because > > > it was reversible. I told > > > him I wanted something that was long term, I > was > > > not going to go through > > > this to reverse it. He also said I will still > have > > > diabetes after surgery, I > > > will always have it. Even if my blood sugar is > > > normal due to diet change? Is > > > that true? Anybody know? > > > Happy loosing > to > > > you! > > > > Debi H > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 23, 2006 Report Share Posted September 23, 2006 Mike, I found the following article that supports the idea that " once a diabetic, always a diabetic " : http://www.aarp.org/bulletin/yourhealth/defying_diabetes.html and, I found the following article that disputes the idea that " once a diabetic, always a diabetics " : http://www.reversingdiabetes.org/ The truth of the matter is that many health professionals differ in their opinions. It is like that in most things in life: law, politics, WLS, etc. Everyone has an opinion and can usually support their opinion with some sort of study/research. I don't think you'll ever find a profession that agrees 100% of the time. in Virginia 299/221/150 Lap RNY: 5/3/06 Re: I have a date! , What's your source on this information? I was diagnosed as pre- diabetic by my PCP and now she's said I'm no longer pre-diabetic. Is she mistaken? Are you saying if I had become diabetic I would still be diabetic? I'd like to read some articles/information on this if you have them. Mike > Whoooo Hoooooo, I have a date! October 24th. Everyone help me count the > days! I can't wait. > I saw my primary care physician today and he was not at all happy about my > bloodwork. My sugar was too high, my kidneys were spilling protien, bla bla > bla, all that good stuff. He also was kind of upset I was having the RNY instead > of the lap-band. He said he recommended it because it was reversible. I told > him I wanted something that was long term, I was not going to go through > this to reverse it. He also said I will still have diabetes after surgery, I > will always have it. Even if my blood sugar is normal due to diet change? Is > that true? Anybody know? > Happy loosing to you! > Debi H > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2006 Report Share Posted September 25, 2006 Whoooo Hoooooo, I have a date! October 24th. Hey Debi, Sorry I'm so behind with my emails, but CONGRATULATIONS on your date. The days are going to fly by. Donna/NY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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