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KC, this is an excellent message with a lot of valuable information. I would

suggest that you re-post this as a new, separate topic with a special subject

line so everyone can be sure to read this.

[] Re: Need help

First let me start off by saying I'm sorry that you are in this

situation. Unfortunately when it comes to the work environment you

are basically on your own. Many on this board, including my wife,

became ill at work and were completely stonewalled but the evidence

and truth should stand. Do not expect any government agency to help.

OSHA will notify the company that they have had a complaint filed

against them and will actually tell them which day they are coming

in to make an inspection, that's if they even take the complaint

seriously. The EPA, NIOSH, Health Dept and the CDC were all

absolutely useless at that time, back in the beginning. All they

wanted to do was pass the buck.

Since there are no federal quidelines most companies will do the

minimal as far as repairs if any. Most employee complaints fall on

deaf ears. Even though others may be getting sick there unless you

can all band together do not expect them to stand up for you. Many

fear losing their jobs, insurances and other benefits more than

losing their lives until it is too late. It also happens that they

may even lie in court, like they did in my wifes case.

You can be fired under doctors care. Yes, this is illegal but it

does happen and good luck fighting that one. I know it happened to

my wife. You will either have to quit or be terminated, either way

it will be in your best interest, especially physically.

You can file a workmen's comp. claim, but be prepared to run the

full gammet of abuse, denial and complete hardship. Check your state

laws about the statue of limitations, each state is different.

Example, here in GA your claim starts the moment you either know or

suspect that something is making you ill. NOT when you have a

diagnosis. Also you only have one year to file in GA and other

states most of the states it's 2 or 3 years. Again, each state is

different. If you do decide to file a claim, make sure that you have

everything documented, pictures taken and if possible statements

from other employees, especially company memos. Keep a daily

journal of how you are feeling. I know this may not make sense but

if it starts effecting your short/long term memory you won't

remember alot of things. Write everything down no matter if you

think it's related or not. Many of the symptoms that people here are

experiencing never crossed their minds initially that it was from a

contaminated environment.

As far as getting someone in to test the building, good luck with

that one. The company can call in someone if they choose and they do

not have to let you know the results. Again this has happened to

many here. You can try to get someone in yourself to test, which

will cost you, but many places of employment do not have to let them

in to test. We had to get a court order to test the building and

they limited where we could test, also before we had the building

tested 3 years had gone by and they had ample time to make repairs.

(somewhat, these toxins never fully leave the building) so I will

never know the true levels my wife was exposed to, this is all we

ever wanted in the beginning so that she could be properly treated.

Expect to have the defense fight you every step of the way. Some

here have taken samples themselves and sent them off for analysis.

But the defense can and will fight that they were tampered with,

contaminated or just did not follow proper procedure (chain of

command.)

If you chose to go this route be prepared for a long fight. This

will take a toll on you emotionally, physically and financially. My

best recommendation is to get out, go to one of the doctors that do

recognize and treat this condition. If treated early enough and you

are out of the comtaminated building your chances of recovering are

much greater, perhaps with some minor symptoms, stopping some the

permenant ones from setting in and getting back to as close to your

previous self as possible. The longer you stay there the likelihood

of your condition worsening with permenant damage is much greater.

My wife has been sick now for 11 years, fighting workmen's comp for

7 years. If we knew then what we know now she would have gotten out

of the building when the symptoms first started appearing, we NEVER

would have filed a claim, but we were backed into a corner and

forced to. It has taken too much from our family in every aspect.

We all would like to get better, but each person is different,

exposure limits or reactivity and there are so many variables

involved concerning your immune response and what

contaminates/ toxins and length of time that you have been exposed.

We wish you the best.Which ever direction you decide to go remember,

take one day at a time, don't try to look to far into the future.

This will only complicate things and cause undo stress. Try to lay

out a plan on what you need to focus on, and the steps you should

take in order to recover as best you can. There are many here that

will be more than happy to lend a hand.

Take care,

KC

>

> I am almost certain that the building I am working in contains

mold.

> I have only been there 3 months and during that time I have been

sick

> like never before. We have had some rain over the past month and

the

> roof leaks really bad. You can see brown spots all over the

ceiling

> and some place require a bucket to catch the water. For the past

> month, I have been so sick that it is hard for me to go to work. I

> missed a full week two weeks ago and am out sick again today. I

have

> spent the past month coughing, sinus congestion, aches, dizzy,

etc. I

> know this sounds like the flu but I haven't had a fever. I'm

always

> tired and sleep around 10 hours a night. Never have I slept that

> much. I'm sleepy and work. Feel confused and forget things, so I

have

> to make a million notes just to remember things. I have no

> concentration at work, but am fine at home. Once I leave work I

start

> to feel better, but the coughing and aches continue. Sometimes I

feel

> like my throat is closing up.

>

> I am not the only one who has had problems lately. Several people

are

> continuously blowing their nose. One falls asleep at his desk.

> Another has had a headache since before I started working there.

He's

> been to all kinds of doctors with no explanation as to what's

causing

> his headache. Another woman has started coughing really bad. Just

> about everybody takes sinus medication as if it were candy.

>

> I need to know how I can get tested to see if I have been exposed

to

> mold. I hate to leave my job, but I will if its for the sake of my

> health. I don't have insurance and not much money since I have

missed

> so many days. I can't go from doctor to doctor. I'm thinking about

> going to the emergency room, but they would probably just give me

> some antibiotics and send me home. We have a free clinic, but I

don't

> know if they would take my concerns seriously. I am just to the

point

> that I don't know what to do. I contacted my local health

department

> and they told me to see a family doctor. Please help me get better.

>

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I'm pretty sure that if you have a medical condition and there is a mold report

they have to provide it.. I knew of the mold report of my situation. I was

told by my treating physician by law they have to share the info. I called the

atty who had a copy. I had it the next day.

<brianc8452@...> wrote: KC,

this is an excellent message with a lot of valuable information. I would

suggest that you re-post this as a new, separate topic with a special subject

line so everyone can be sure to read this.

[] Re: Need help

First let me start off by saying I'm sorry that you are in this

situation. Unfortunately when it comes to the work environment you

are basically on your own. Many on this board, including my wife,

became ill at work and were completely stonewalled but the evidence

and truth should stand. Do not expect any government agency to help.

OSHA will notify the company that they have had a complaint filed

against them and will actually tell them which day they are coming

in to make an inspection, that's if they even take the complaint

seriously. The EPA, NIOSH, Health Dept and the CDC were all

absolutely useless at that time, back in the beginning. All they

wanted to do was pass the buck.

Since there are no federal quidelines most companies will do the

minimal as far as repairs if any. Most employee complaints fall on

deaf ears. Even though others may be getting sick there unless you

can all band together do not expect them to stand up for you. Many

fear losing their jobs, insurances and other benefits more than

losing their lives until it is too late. It also happens that they

may even lie in court, like they did in my wifes case.

You can be fired under doctors care. Yes, this is illegal but it

does happen and good luck fighting that one. I know it happened to

my wife. You will either have to quit or be terminated, either way

it will be in your best interest, especially physically.

You can file a workmen's comp. claim, but be prepared to run the

full gammet of abuse, denial and complete hardship. Check your state

laws about the statue of limitations, each state is different.

Example, here in GA your claim starts the moment you either know or

suspect that something is making you ill. NOT when you have a

diagnosis. Also you only have one year to file in GA and other

states most of the states it's 2 or 3 years. Again, each state is

different. If you do decide to file a claim, make sure that you have

everything documented, pictures taken and if possible statements

from other employees, especially company memos. Keep a daily

journal of how you are feeling. I know this may not make sense but

if it starts effecting your short/long term memory you won't

remember alot of things. Write everything down no matter if you

think it's related or not. Many of the symptoms that people here are

experiencing never crossed their minds initially that it was from a

contaminated environment.

As far as getting someone in to test the building, good luck with

that one. The company can call in someone if they choose and they do

not have to let you know the results. Again this has happened to

many here. You can try to get someone in yourself to test, which

will cost you, but many places of employment do not have to let them

in to test. We had to get a court order to test the building and

they limited where we could test, also before we had the building

tested 3 years had gone by and they had ample time to make repairs.

(somewhat, these toxins never fully leave the building) so I will

never know the true levels my wife was exposed to, this is all we

ever wanted in the beginning so that she could be properly treated.

Expect to have the defense fight you every step of the way. Some

here have taken samples themselves and sent them off for analysis.

But the defense can and will fight that they were tampered with,

contaminated or just did not follow proper procedure (chain of

command.)

If you chose to go this route be prepared for a long fight. This

will take a toll on you emotionally, physically and financially. My

best recommendation is to get out, go to one of the doctors that do

recognize and treat this condition. If treated early enough and you

are out of the comtaminated building your chances of recovering are

much greater, perhaps with some minor symptoms, stopping some the

permenant ones from setting in and getting back to as close to your

previous self as possible. The longer you stay there the likelihood

of your condition worsening with permenant damage is much greater.

My wife has been sick now for 11 years, fighting workmen's comp for

7 years. If we knew then what we know now she would have gotten out

of the building when the symptoms first started appearing, we NEVER

would have filed a claim, but we were backed into a corner and

forced to. It has taken too much from our family in every aspect.

We all would like to get better, but each person is different,

exposure limits or reactivity and there are so many variables

involved concerning your immune response and what

contaminates/ toxins and length of time that you have been exposed.

We wish you the best.Which ever direction you decide to go remember,

take one day at a time, don't try to look to far into the future.

This will only complicate things and cause undo stress. Try to lay

out a plan on what you need to focus on, and the steps you should

take in order to recover as best you can. There are many here that

will be more than happy to lend a hand.

Take care,

KC

>

> I am almost certain that the building I am working in contains

mold.

> I have only been there 3 months and during that time I have been

sick

> like never before. We have had some rain over the past month and

the

> roof leaks really bad. You can see brown spots all over the

ceiling

> and some place require a bucket to catch the water. For the past

> month, I have been so sick that it is hard for me to go to work. I

> missed a full week two weeks ago and am out sick again today. I

have

> spent the past month coughing, sinus congestion, aches, dizzy,

etc. I

> know this sounds like the flu but I haven't had a fever. I'm

always

> tired and sleep around 10 hours a night. Never have I slept that

> much. I'm sleepy and work. Feel confused and forget things, so I

have

> to make a million notes just to remember things. I have no

> concentration at work, but am fine at home. Once I leave work I

start

> to feel better, but the coughing and aches continue. Sometimes I

feel

> like my throat is closing up.

>

> I am not the only one who has had problems lately. Several people

are

> continuously blowing their nose. One falls asleep at his desk.

> Another has had a headache since before I started working there.

He's

> been to all kinds of doctors with no explanation as to what's

causing

> his headache. Another woman has started coughing really bad. Just

> about everybody takes sinus medication as if it were candy.

>

> I need to know how I can get tested to see if I have been exposed

to

> mold. I hate to leave my job, but I will if its for the sake of my

> health. I don't have insurance and not much money since I have

missed

> so many days. I can't go from doctor to doctor. I'm thinking about

> going to the emergency room, but they would probably just give me

> some antibiotics and send me home. We have a free clinic, but I

don't

> know if they would take my concerns seriously. I am just to the

point

> that I don't know what to do. I contacted my local health

department

> and they told me to see a family doctor. Please help me get better.

>

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From what I have heard, they can go on doing mold tests until they

have one or two they like, and then release them only, or not at all..

They have multiple levels of disclosure laws.. they are different in

different states.. they only apply to buildings being sold in the ones

that do..

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Hi ,

Although I work at Stanford (not the hospital) I share your opinion. I

myself am with Kaiser Permanente, but I when my mother broke a leg

(visiting when I was dx with cml) I brought her to Stanford, and it

was the worst hospital experience both of us ever had, we waited hours

for xrays, saw a dr for less than 5mn, what didn't refrain him from

billing about $2K on top of the hospital bill (that had bills from

other people). And we both have been to remote countries, my mother

runs (at 70) a mountain guide outfit in Pakistan ! I was thinking

maybe the cancer center would be better, but well, apparently no. The

quality of care is supposed to be good, but they could improve their

relation to the patients.

Marcos.

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 6:25 PM, formiga101 <formiga101@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hello Everyone

> My name is and I am 26 years old. I was Dx going on 4 1/2

> years now, still on 400mg Gleevec and doing good under the

> circumstances. Well I have been a patient at Standord since I was DX in

> Nov of 2003. Although I can not complain with my results I really

> dislike the service I get at Standford. I usually wait 2-3 hours to

> be seen after my appt has been schedule, and once the doctor finally

> arrives she wont give me more then 10 minutes of her time. Please help.

> Anyone in California, with a doctor they like. I am looking into going

> back to my old doctor(He was extremely awesone) the one that took care

> of me when i was in the hospitol back in 2003 but he has moved to San

> Obispo, which is about a 3 to 3 1/2 hour commute each way. I was

> hoping for some more options before I actuallly decide to go this route.

>

> Thanks in advance

>

>

>

--

Marcos Perreau Guimaraes

Suppes Brain Lab

Ventura Hall - CSLI

Stanford University

220 Panama street

Stanford CA 94305-4101

650 614 2305

650 630 5015 (cell)

marcospg@...

montereyunderwater@...

www.stanford.edu/~marcospg/

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Wow!!

I am shocked to hear that about Stanford. I have never been there but have

always been told it was a wonderful hospital.

Marcos I too am with Kaiser and very happy so far.

I live in Northern California and my Dr is in Walnut creek.

Sharon

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Marcos

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Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 10:34 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Need help

Hi ,

Although I work at Stanford (not the hospital) I share your opinion. I

myself am with Kaiser Permanente, but I when my mother broke a leg

(visiting when I was dx with cml) I brought her to Stanford, and it

was the worst hospital experience both of us ever had, we waited hours

for xrays, saw a dr for less than 5mn, what didn't refrain him from

billing about $2K on top of the hospital bill (that had bills from

other people). And we both have been to remote countries, my mother

runs (at 70) a mountain guide outfit in Pakistan ! I was thinking

maybe the cancer center would be better, but well, apparently no. The

quality of care is supposed to be good, but they could improve their

relation to the patients.

Marcos.

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 6:25 PM, formiga101 <formiga101 (DOT)

<mailto:formiga101%40> com> wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hello Everyone

> My name is and I am 26 years old. I was Dx going on 4 1/2

> years now, still on 400mg Gleevec and doing good under the

> circumstances. Well I have been a patient at Standord since I was DX in

> Nov of 2003. Although I can not complain with my results I really

> dislike the service I get at Standford. I usually wait 2-3 hours to

> be seen after my appt has been schedule, and once the doctor finally

> arrives she wont give me more then 10 minutes of her time. Please help.

> Anyone in California, with a doctor they like. I am looking into going

> back to my old doctor(He was extremely awesone) the one that took care

> of me when i was in the hospitol back in 2003 but he has moved to San

> Obispo, which is about a 3 to 3 1/2 hour commute each way. I was

> hoping for some more options before I actuallly decide to go this route.

>

> Thanks in advance

>

>

>

--

Marcos Perreau Guimaraes

Suppes Brain Lab

Ventura Hall - CSLI

Stanford University

220 Panama street

Stanford CA 94305-4101

650 614 2305

650 630 5015 (cell)

marcospgcsli (DOT) <mailto:marcospg%40csli.stanford.edu> stanford.edu

montereyunderwater@ <mailto:montereyunderwater%40gmail.com> gmail.com

www.stanford.edu/~marcospg/

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, try moldhelp.org Also I know that the workers in the Broward County FL

Courthouse just filed a lawsuit for Mold. One of the best things you can do to

assist you in the book is to join a google alert on mold and sick building

syndrome, from that you will get daily anything that is posted on the web

anywhere.

Karyn

>

> Hello my name is alex and i am doing a report on sick building syndrome does

anyone know of a website that list the names and locations of buildings that

have sick building syndrome?

>

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I don't know of any list of buildings, but there have been a lot of articles

about buildings with mold. Be sure to include the Texas Governor's Mansion in

your search.

>

> Hello my name is alex and i am doing a report on sick building syndrome does

anyone know of a website that list the names and locations of buildings that

have sick building syndrome?

>

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