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Cherie- Have you had a complete blood (CBC) count lately?

> Cherie,

>

> I wish I knew exactly what's going on with you . . .

>

> From the outset, you've had more problems that anyone we've seen

with everything. Undoubtely, yeast has been a problem . . . I say

that because virtually all the women who come to the group sooner or

later decide the must get fungal issues under control if they're

going to move on.

>

> However, if you've been faithful to your diet, and taking

antifungals, you should have fungal issues under control. . .

However, that's just two parts of a three part program. The other

part is getting those good organisms found in probiotics to take up

residence in your body again. The organisms come from foods like

Kefir, sauerkraut, yogurt, etc. as well as probiotics supplement like

Primal Defense.

>

> Since so many things you put into your body make you sick, you

may want to concentrate on getting stuff OUT of your body first. ..

i.e. coffee enemas, Epsom Salt baths, Colonics, liver flushes, sanua,

foot baths, etc. while you go easy on what you're putting in.

>

> I'm visualizing a liver that's overflowing with toxins from your

implants, your environment, meds, etc. . .

>

> It takes guts to keep experiementing, when you don't know if it's

going to make you feel worse for a while . .. but that's what it

takes! . . .

>

> A huge part of getting better is summoning the determination to

find, and stick with, your program. We can help you with ideas and

encouragement . . . but you have to live with the results! . . . So

chose wisely! I know you can do it!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

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Krista,

Yes, had everything done about 3 weeks ago. As usual everything looks

good. My hemoglobin was a little low so I'm on a liquid iron med from

the ND.

Hugs,

Cherie

> > Cherie,

> >

> > I wish I knew exactly what's going on with you . . .

> >

> > From the outset, you've had more problems that anyone we've

seen

> with everything. Undoubtely, yeast has been a problem . . . I say

> that because virtually all the women who come to the group sooner

or

> later decide the must get fungal issues under control if they're

> going to move on.

> >

> > However, if you've been faithful to your diet, and taking

> antifungals, you should have fungal issues under control. . .

> However, that's just two parts of a three part program. The other

> part is getting those good organisms found in probiotics to take up

> residence in your body again. The organisms come from foods like

> Kefir, sauerkraut, yogurt, etc. as well as probiotics supplement

like

> Primal Defense.

> >

> > Since so many things you put into your body make you sick, you

> may want to concentrate on getting stuff OUT of your body first. ..

> i.e. coffee enemas, Epsom Salt baths, Colonics, liver flushes,

sanua,

> foot baths, etc. while you go easy on what you're putting in.

> >

> > I'm visualizing a liver that's overflowing with toxins from

your

> implants, your environment, meds, etc. . .

> >

> > It takes guts to keep experiementing, when you don't know if

it's

> going to make you feel worse for a while . .. but that's what it

> takes! . . .

> >

> > A huge part of getting better is summoning the determination to

> find, and stick with, your program. We can help you with ideas and

> encouragement . . . but you have to live with the results! . . . So

> chose wisely! I know you can do it!

> >

> > Hugs,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Good, I have the CBC done every 2 months now...gives me peace of

mind. :-)

> > > Cherie,

> > >

> > > I wish I knew exactly what's going on with you . . .

> > >

> > > From the outset, you've had more problems that anyone we've

> seen

> > with everything. Undoubtely, yeast has been a problem . . . I say

> > that because virtually all the women who come to the group sooner

> or

> > later decide the must get fungal issues under control if they're

> > going to move on.

> > >

> > > However, if you've been faithful to your diet, and taking

> > antifungals, you should have fungal issues under control. . .

> > However, that's just two parts of a three part program. The other

> > part is getting those good organisms found in probiotics to take

up

> > residence in your body again. The organisms come from foods like

> > Kefir, sauerkraut, yogurt, etc. as well as probiotics supplement

> like

> > Primal Defense.

> > >

> > > Since so many things you put into your body make you sick,

you

> > may want to concentrate on getting stuff OUT of your body

first. ..

> > i.e. coffee enemas, Epsom Salt baths, Colonics, liver flushes,

> sanua,

> > foot baths, etc. while you go easy on what you're putting in.

> > >

> > > I'm visualizing a liver that's overflowing with toxins from

> your

> > implants, your environment, meds, etc. . .

> > >

> > > It takes guts to keep experiementing, when you don't know if

> it's

> > going to make you feel worse for a while . .. but that's what it

> > takes! . . .

> > >

> > > A huge part of getting better is summoning the determination

to

> > find, and stick with, your program. We can help you with ideas

and

> > encouragement . . . but you have to live with the results! . . .

So

> > chose wisely! I know you can do it!

> > >

> > > Hugs,

> > >

> > > Rogene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Cherie,

Have you ever tried a coffee enema for pain? It helps tremendously

with pain according to the books on the Gerson Therapy and

testimonies I've read.

Patty

> Cherie,

>

> I'm going to recommend something I've never recommended before.

>

> It's obvious you are feeling really, really stressed by following

an antifungal diet . . .

>

> That's no good . . .

>

> Maybe if you took some time off . . . ate whatever you want to

eat and did whatever you want to do . . . you could get rid of the

stress . . .

>

> Then, if you felt worse, you'd know how important your program

is, and it would be easier to stick to . . . The worst that could

happen is that you'd have to back up and treat fungal issues for a

while longer. . . . As I see it, you wouldn't feel any worse than

you're feeling now.

>

> In the meantime, you'd have a few days to endulge yourself. That

alone could be worth it!

>

> Hugs,

>

> Rogene

>

>

>

>

>

>

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You can safely juice lemon (and lime) peelings, but not orange! (or

grapefruit.)

Patty

> > >

> > > Cherie ~

> > > I am about sure you are dealing with adrenal

> > > issues, on top of it all which will zap all your

> > > energy.

> > > Have you had your blood sugars tested?

> > > What all do you eat ? I know you are on the

> > > diet, but what does that include for you?

> > > Are you getting enough protein?

> > > I am not sure why people told you that you

> > > would be feeling better at a particular time.

> > > It takes a long time to regenerate a body and

> > > replace all the bad guys with good guys.

> > > In your situation, you have a special needs

> > > daughter, a new business you have started,

> > > you have been really ill, you have loss of a

> > > gallbladder that your body is still adjusting to,

> > > and now you have had implants removed which

> > > is also like loss of a body part. While trying to

> > > heal from all this, you are working and careing

> > > for your daughter, and you are a single parent.

> > > Give yourself a break. No-one knows how long

> > > it will be til you are better. It is a very slow and

> > > long process, and dating it only makes it more

> > > frustrating. You are establishing a way of life.

> > > A new and healthier one. Give it a couple of

> > > years....... years....... <WBR>.yes, years ! Then if

> > > then you will be happy about that.

> > > You know, it took Patty 4 years ! but it happened !

> > > Please, its time to give it to God again. Pray about

> > > it. Your body has been through so much in the last

> > > few years, emotionally and physically.

> > > Learn to manage your energy, eat the foods that

> > > give you energy at the times of day you need it.

> > > Take breaks during your day to stretch out, and

> > > step outside for a few minutes and breathe. Do the

> > > breathing exercises get oxygen to that brain and to

> > > your organs. Take a 20 minute nap at lunchtime.

> > > Eat healthy snacks and be sure you are getting enough

> > > water.

> > > When you feel frustrated, vent, we are here for you.

> > > Then give it to God, and let him handle it for you.

> > > You are in my prayers ~ Love you ~ Dede

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Cherie,

The difference between yogurt and kefir is in the various numbers of

organisms. Yogurt has a specific few....kefir has many, many more.

Kefir is made from unheated milk, yogurt is made from heated milk.

I think kefir is overall a healthier probiotic, though yogurt is

still good!

Patty

> >

> > Cherie,

> >

> > I think you're right about your body not absorbing

nutrients . . .

> that prevents you from getting energy from your food . . .

> >

> > Probiotics should recolonize your gut so the beneficial organisms

> necessary for nutrition can do their job. If you've been on

> antifungals for some time, it's time to stop and concentrate on

> Probiotics . . Digestive enzymes could help . . . Just chewing your

> food very thoroughly can help digestion too. Have you tried

> Kefir? . . . The fermentation process makes it easily

digestable . ..

> it's probiotics help too.

> >

> > I know you're anxious to get your life back . . . You will, but

not

> nearly as fast as you'd like.

> >

> > Hugs and prayers,

> >

> > Rogene

> >

>

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Hi Cherie,

I do eat organic dark chocolate as a treat every now and again. I

know I shouldn't but I do.

Love, Lynn

> >

> > Hi Ladies,

> >

> > I really need for you all to chime in.....I'm at my wits end! I

> have

> > been on this candida diet for 2 months and I'm actually feeling

> > worse! I was told that when you start the diet you feel icky and

> > have sugar cravings for just a few weeks and then you will start

to

> > feel better. NOT FOR ME IT ISN'T! I don't actually crave or

think

> > about sugar, I'm just exhausted without it! I am sitting at my

desk

> > today.....like zoombie, work getting behind, no desire or will to

> > work or to do anything for that matter. I keep being told a lot

of

> > things but I do not see them manifest. (especially from my ND) in

> my

> > case at all. He told me that I would be feeling better by

Feb.....I

> > am not! Sometimes I wonder if I am even on the right track....but

I

> > sure am handing him a lot of money.....in which I am running out

> of.

> >

> > I am so wanting to go off this diet! If I could see some

progress

> or

> > feel a bit better....but I just feel worse, more gas, more pain

and

> > my fatigue is getting worse as the weeks go on. I would think I

> > would be like this NOT being on the diet. At least if I feel like

> > this I may have energy and out of a brain fog with sugar. I did

> not

> > have any brain fog until starting this diet.

> >

> > I tried anything that has been advised to me.....running out of

> > money, time and patience! Yes, I know....it takes time....but

> > shouldn't I being seeing some or a little improved....not going

> > backwards? I am afraid that I will run out of money and not be

any

> > feeling any better at all.

> >

> > Thanks for your help!

> > Cherie

> >

>

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Cherie,

My best " mental " support is this group. It is like counseling, it

really is. If you need to vent do, you will get support. There are

times when I am so down and blue. I come here and I get hope.

I deal with so many of the things you do, minus a child. You are not

alone.

Hugs, Lynn

> >

> > Most Beautiful Cherie-

> >

> > First, thank you so much for posting today. I would hate to think

> > that you are feeling this way and did not post! We are all in

this

> > together, so when you are having crummy days like this, you have

to

> > post and let us know so that we can tell you that we are behind

you

> > and that we understand!

> >

> > Second, I don't know why your ND told you that you'd start

feeling

> > better by February. I know he was just trying to be helpful, but

> the

> > thing is....he probably hasn't treated anyone with this illness,

> and

> > probably doesn't completely understand what is going on with you.

> My

> > ND told me it would be at least 3-6 months (probably more like 6

> > months) before I started to see improvements. She said that with

> the

> > load of crap that my body is dealing with, that it is going to

take

> > my body many many months to detox itself. I told her that I am

> > planning to be better by December, but hoping for June. That's

all

> > you can do right now, hope for the best, but plan for the worst.

I

> > know how difficult the waiting game is, most days my patience is

up

> > and I just want my life back!! Most days I feel like a zombie, so

I

> > can definitely relate! And yes, I haven't had any desire to do my

> > work for months!

> >

> > I think the thing that is helping the most right now is sleep! I

go

> > to sleep as soon as I can in the evenings. I used to go to bed

> > between 9:30 and 10:00 and now I'm in bed between 8 and 8:30.

> Getting

> > enough rest is what helps get me through the day. Also, I know

the

> > diet is very very important but here's the thing.....you HAVE to

> give

> > yourself a break. I don't know if everyone will agree with me,

but

> my

> > ND told me that if I let myself have " treats " once a week, then

it

> is

> > going to help me in the long run. This is because giving yourself

> > a " treat " is not going to halt or back-step your healing, and by

> > giving yourself a break, you are less likely to feel stressed

that

> > you CAN'T have a treat. I've heard that when people are a diet,

it

> is

> > actually beneficial for them to give themselves one day where

they

> > can eat what they want (in moderation,) it doesn't mean they are

> > going off their diet, and they don't feel like they are being

> > deprived.

> >

> > Also, my personal opinion on the ND would be to see if you can

> detox

> > on your own for awhile. The ND probably gave you great advice,

> > suggestions, etc. It might be best for you to take those

> suggestions

> > and advice and see if you can save your money and do it on your

> own.

> > Detoxing doesn't have to cost a fortune! There are lots of ways

> you

> > can do it without spending a ton of money or putting your body

> under

> > too much stress. What kinds of detoxing are you doing right now?

> >

> > Love, Krista

> >

> > --- In , " cannst42 " <cannst42@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Ladies,

> > >

> > > I really need for you all to chime in.....I'm at my wits end!

I

> > have

> > > been on this candida diet for 2 months and I'm actually feeling

> > > worse! I was told that when you start the diet you feel icky

and

> > > have sugar cravings for just a few weeks and then you will

start

> to

> > > feel better. NOT FOR ME IT ISN'T! I don't actually crave or

> think

> > > about sugar, I'm just exhausted without it! I am sitting at my

> desk

> > > today.....like zoombie, work getting behind, no desire or will

to

> > > work or to do anything for that matter. I keep being told a lot

> of

> > > things but I do not see them manifest. (especially from my ND)

in

> > my

> > > case at all. He told me that I would be feeling better by

> Feb.....I

> > > am not! Sometimes I wonder if I am even on the right

track....but

> I

> > > sure am handing him a lot of money.....in which I am running

out

> > of.

> > >

> > > I am so wanting to go off this diet! If I could see some

> progress

> > or

> > > feel a bit better....but I just feel worse, more gas, more pain

> and

> > > my fatigue is getting worse as the weeks go on. I would think

I

> > > would be like this NOT being on the diet. At least if I feel

like

> > > this I may have energy and out of a brain fog with sugar. I

did

> > not

> > > have any brain fog until starting this diet.

> > >

> > > I tried anything that has been advised to me.....running out of

> > > money, time and patience! Yes, I know....it takes time....but

> > > shouldn't I being seeing some or a little improved....not going

> > > backwards? I am afraid that I will run out of money and not be

> any

> > > feeling any better at all.

> > >

> > > Thanks for your help!

> > > Cherie

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

You must have good will power - I am by no means healthy here and

need major detox still. Just got off a round of antibiotics - oh

joy! I am sure the fungus is a raging! Need to order some GOL

Fungal Defense and take the bottle (he he).

I still cheat though, I just do... Got to live some sort of life if

at all possible and it chocolate is my comfort. I just make sure it

is the lowest sugar I can find - usually 6 grams, dark and organic

(OH YUMMY).

Hugs, Lynn

> >

> > Most Beautiful Cherie-

> >

> > First, thank you so much for posting today. I would hate to

think

> > that you are feeling this way and did not post! We are all in

this

> > together, so when you are having crummy days like this, you have

to

> > post and let us know so that we can tell you that we are behind

you

> > and that we understand!

> >

> > Second, I don't know why your ND told you that you'd start

feeling

> > better by February. I know he was just trying to be helpful, but

> the

> > thing is....he probably hasn't treated anyone with this illness,

> and

> > probably doesn't completely understand what is going on with

you.

> My

> > ND told me it would be at least 3-6 months (probably more like 6

> > months) before I started to see improvements. She said that with

> the

> > load of crap that my body is dealing with, that it is going to

take

> > my body many many months to detox itself. I told her that I am

> > planning to be better by December, but hoping for June. That's

all

> > you can do right now, hope for the best, but plan for the worst.

I

> > know how difficult the waiting game is, most days my patience is

up

> > and I just want my life back!! Most days I feel like a zombie,

so I

> > can definitely relate! And yes, I haven't had any desire to do

my

> > work for months!

> >

> > I think the thing that is helping the most right now is sleep! I

go

> > to sleep as soon as I can in the evenings. I used to go to bed

> > between 9:30 and 10:00 and now I'm in bed between 8 and 8:30.

> Getting

> > enough rest is what helps get me through the day. Also, I know

the

> > diet is very very important but here's the thing.....you HAVE to

> give

> > yourself a break. I don't know if everyone will agree with me,

but

> my

> > ND told me that if I let myself have " treats " once a week, then

it

> is

> > going to help me in the long run. This is because giving

yourself

> > a " treat " is not going to halt or back-step your healing, and by

> > giving yourself a break, you are less likely to feel stressed

that

> > you CAN'T have a treat. I've heard that when people are a diet,

it

> is

> > actually beneficial for them to give themselves one day where

they

> > can eat what they want (in moderation,) it doesn't mean they are

> > going off their diet, and they don't feel like they are being

> > deprived.

> >

> > Also, my personal opinion on the ND would be to see if you can

> detox

> > on your own for awhile. The ND probably gave you great advice,

> > suggestions, etc. It might be best for you to take those

> suggestions

> > and advice and see if you can save your money and do it on your

> own.

> > Detoxing doesn't have to cost a fortune! There are lots of ways

> you

> > can do it without spending a ton of money or putting your body

> under

> > too much stress. What kinds of detoxing are you doing right now?

> >

> > Love, Krista

> >

> > --- In _ @SalineSupporSal_

> (mailto: ) , " cannst42 " <cannst42@>

wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Ladies,

> > >

> > > I really need for you all to chime in.....I'm at my wits end!

I

> > have

> > > been on this candida diet for 2 months and I'm actually

feeling

> > > worse! I was told that when you start the diet you feel icky

and

> > > have sugar cravings for just a few weeks and then you will

start

> to

> > > feel better. NOT FOR ME IT ISN'T! I don't actually crave or

> think

> > > about sugar, I'm just exhausted without it! I am sitting at my

> desk

> > > today.....like zoombie, work getting behind, no desire or will

to

> > > work or to do anything for that matter. I keep being told a

lot

> of

> > > things but I do not see them manifest. (especially from my ND)

in

> > my

> > > case at all. He told me that I would be feeling better by

> Feb.....I

> > > am not! Sometimes I wonder if I am even on the right

track....but

> I

> > > sure am handing him a lot of money.....in which I am running

out

> > of.

> > >

> > > I am so wanting to go off this diet! If I could see some

> progress

> > or

> > > feel a bit better....but I just feel worse, more gas, more

pain

> and

> > > my fatigue is getting worse as the weeks go on. I would think

I

> > > would be like this NOT being on the diet. At least if I feel

like

> > > this I may have energy and out of a brain fog with sugar. I

did

> > not

> > > have any brain fog until starting this diet.

> > >

> > > I tried anything that has been advised to me.....running out

of

> > > money, time and patience! Yes, I know....it takes time....but

> > > shouldn't I being seeing some or a little improved....

shouldn't

> > > backwards? I am afraid that I will run out of money and not be

> any

> > > feeling any better at all.

> > >

> > > Thanks for your help!

> > > Cherie

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Good to know . . . I've been confused about what you can juice.Thanks,Rogene Re: Need some help!

You can safely juice lemon (and lime) peelings, but not orange! (or

grapefruit.)

Patty

> > >

> > > Cherie ~

> > > I am about sure you are dealing with adrenal

> > > issues, on top of it all which will zap all your

> > > energy.

> > > Have you had your blood sugars tested?

> > > What all do you eat ? I know you are on the

> > > diet, but what does that include for you?

> > > Are you getting enough protein?

> > > I am not sure why people told you that you

> > > would be feeling better at a particular time.

> > > It takes a long time to regenerate a body and

> > > replace all the bad guys with good guys.

> > > In your situation, you have a special needs

> > > daughter, a new business you have started,

> > > you have been really ill, you have loss of a

> > > gallbladder that your body is still adjusting to,

> > > and now you have had implants removed which

> > > is also like loss of a body part. While trying to

> > > heal from all this, you are working and careing

> > > for your daughter, and you are a single parent.

> > > Give yourself a break. No-one knows how long

> > > it will be til you are better. It is a very slow and

> > > long process, and dating it only makes it more

> > > frustrating. You are establishing a way of life.

> > > A new and healthier one. Give it a couple of

> > > years....... years....... <WBR>.yes, years ! Then if

> > > then you will be happy about that.

> > > You know, it took Patty 4 years ! but it happened !

> > > Please, its time to give it to God again. Pray about

> > > it. Your body has been through so much in the last

> > > few years, emotionally and physically.

> > > Learn to manage your energy, eat the foods that

> > > give you energy at the times of day you need it.

> > > Take breaks during your day to stretch out, and

> > > step outside for a few minutes and breathe. Do the

> > > breathing exercises get oxygen to that brain and to

> > > your organs. Take a 20 minute nap at lunchtime.

> > > Eat healthy snacks and be sure you are getting enough

> > > water.

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Rogene,

I have a Champion Juicer and its parts are guarantee for life ............

It does a great job also you can do other things like make ice cream , yogurts, butter..........

And of course I haven't learned that end yet. Its cost was 249.00 free shipping.

I had a kitchen aid ........it just didn't make it until I got better.

In a message dated 2/7/2008 11:53:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, saxony01@... writes:

Thanks . . . I had heard some peelings are juiced . . . I didn't know which ones were safe.

I recently bought a KitchenAid stand mixer . . . There are attachments for a juicer and a flour mill that I'm considering.

Rogene

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Cherie,

I was detoxing like crazy, doing supplements, spent hundreds of

dollars we didn't have on therapies, like colonics (got a colema

board too), HBOT, amalgam removal, and more, and yet I was still sick

in the fall of 1999. I was explanted in the spring of 1998. I know

what you are feeling! It was so discouraging!

I've been there....thought I would never get better even after all my

hard work, but I did not give up and did more detoxing with fasting.

Eventually things turned around. Just keep on having faith that it

will happen!

Now I am beyond healed...living like a workaholic and probably not

doing myself any favors healthwise! It will turn around for you.

But make sure you take care of yourself even after you are better.

These bodies of ours demand respect, they are boss! (I think mine is

gonna start whooping on me soon, so I am going to slow down.)

Hugs,

Patty

> >

> > Cherie ~

> > I am about sure you are dealing with adrenal

> > issues, on top of it all which will zap all your

> > energy.

> > Have you had your blood sugars tested?

> > What all do you eat ? I know you are on the

> > diet, but what does that include for you?

> > Are you getting enough protein?

> > I am not sure why people told you that you

> > would be feeling better at a particular time.

> > It takes a long time to regenerate a body and

> > replace all the bad guys with good guys.

> > In your situation, you have a special needs

> > daughter, a new business you have started,

> > you have been really ill, you have loss of a

> > gallbladder that your body is still adjusting to,

> > and now you have had implants removed which

> > is also like loss of a body part. While trying to

> > heal from all this, you are working and careing

> > for your daughter, and you are a single parent.

> > Give yourself a break. No-one knows how long

> > it will be til you are better. It is a very slow and

> > long process, and dating it only makes it more

> > frustrating. You are establishing a way of life.

> > A new and healthier one. Give it a couple of

> > years........yes, years ! Then if it happens sooner

> > then you will be happy about that.

> > You know, it took Patty 4 years ! but it happened !

> > Please, its time to give it to God again. Pray about

> > it. Your body has been through so much in the last

> > few years, emotionally and physically.

> > Learn to manage your energy, eat the foods that

> > give you energy at the times of day you need it.

> > Take breaks during your day to stretch out, and

> > step outside for a few minutes and breathe. Do the

> > breathing exercises get oxygen to that brain and to

> > your organs. Take a 20 minute nap at lunchtime.

> > Eat healthy snacks and be sure you are getting enough

> > water.

> > When you feel frustrated, vent, we are here for you.

> > Then give it to God, and let him handle it for you.

> > You are in my prayers ~ Love you ~ Dede

> >

> >

> >

> > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL

> Music.

> > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?

> NCID=aolcmp003000000025

> > 48)

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[Guest guest]

Thanks . . . I had heard some peelings are juiced . . . I didn't know which ones were safe.

I recently bought a KitchenAid stand mixer . . . There are attachments for a juicer and a flour mill that I'm considering.

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Hi Patty,

I know that you have been thru what I am dealing with, thanks for

your support my dear! I actually made a decision last night and did

go off this diet and only taking probiotics for now. I see a colon

hydotherapist on Sunday Feb. 17th and she is going to be evaluating

me. When I spoke to her on the phone and made an appt., she thought

my ND was way over loading me. I believe she's on to something. My

body is not handling any of this. In the last few weeks, my

depression, anxiety, stress level and pain were getting worse. I had

entered a real " dark place " that I do not need to be in. My work has

gotten so far behind at work and I had started flying off the handle

with my daughter. I started to be unable to focus on anything and I

had not been like that before. I really felt I was going off the deep

end.....had to stop this and take a break. I feel sooooo much better

this morning. My body can't really digest the probiotics but I want

to continue those and the kefir and yogurt. I'm praying and very

determined to stay positive and get me better.

Hugs,

Cherie

- In , " glory2glory1401 "

<glory2glory1401@...> wrote:

>

> Cherie,

> I was detoxing like crazy, doing supplements, spent hundreds of

> dollars we didn't have on therapies, like colonics (got a colema

> board too), HBOT, amalgam removal, and more, and yet I was still

sick

> in the fall of 1999. I was explanted in the spring of 1998. I

know

> what you are feeling! It was so discouraging!

>

> I've been there....thought I would never get better even after all

my

> hard work, but I did not give up and did more detoxing with

fasting.

> Eventually things turned around. Just keep on having faith that it

> will happen!

>

> Now I am beyond healed...living like a workaholic and probably not

> doing myself any favors healthwise! It will turn around for you.

> But make sure you take care of yourself even after you are better.

> These bodies of ours demand respect, they are boss! (I think mine

is

> gonna start whooping on me soon, so I am going to slow down.)

> Hugs,

>

> Patty

>

>

> > >

> > > Cherie ~

> > > I am about sure you are dealing with adrenal

> > > issues, on top of it all which will zap all your

> > > energy.

> > > Have you had your blood sugars tested?

> > > What all do you eat ? I know you are on the

> > > diet, but what does that include for you?

> > > Are you getting enough protein?

> > > I am not sure why people told you that you

> > > would be feeling better at a particular time.

> > > It takes a long time to regenerate a body and

> > > replace all the bad guys with good guys.

> > > In your situation, you have a special needs

> > > daughter, a new business you have started,

> > > you have been really ill, you have loss of a

> > > gallbladder that your body is still adjusting to,

> > > and now you have had implants removed which

> > > is also like loss of a body part. While trying to

> > > heal from all this, you are working and careing

> > > for your daughter, and you are a single parent.

> > > Give yourself a break. No-one knows how long

> > > it will be til you are better. It is a very slow and

> > > long process, and dating it only makes it more

> > > frustrating. You are establishing a way of life.

> > > A new and healthier one. Give it a couple of

> > > years........yes, years ! Then if it happens sooner

> > > then you will be happy about that.

> > > You know, it took Patty 4 years ! but it happened !

> > > Please, its time to give it to God again. Pray about

> > > it. Your body has been through so much in the last

> > > few years, emotionally and physically.

> > > Learn to manage your energy, eat the foods that

> > > give you energy at the times of day you need it.

> > > Take breaks during your day to stretch out, and

> > > step outside for a few minutes and breathe. Do the

> > > breathing exercises get oxygen to that brain and to

> > > your organs. Take a 20 minute nap at lunchtime.

> > > Eat healthy snacks and be sure you are getting enough

> > > water.

> > > When you feel frustrated, vent, we are here for you.

> > > Then give it to God, and let him handle it for you.

> > > You are in my prayers ~ Love you ~ Dede

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL

> > Music.

> > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?

> > NCID=aolcmp003000000025

> > > 48)

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[Guest guest]

Cherie,

I'm glad to hear you're feeling better! . . .

I hope you're careful about your diet . . . even if you aren't following a strict diet . . . And, when you do start adding supplements that you try one at a time - and do it slowly.

Hopefully once you get some of the toxins out, you'll be able to handle some of the supplements.

When I had my implants, Multiple Chemical Sensitivity (MCS) was controlling my life. After I had detoxed for a couple years, my chemical sensitivities all but disappeared. . . It was amazing! I hadn't even connected my MCS with my implants!

The way I see it, we are born with an empty glass (some get bigger glasses) . . . As we journey through life, this glass begins filling. . . Eventually the glass gets full and starts splashing about (occasional symptoms) . . . If we don't take notice then, it soon starts overflowing and we become chronically ill.

Detoxing removes some of the stuff in the glass. Done long enough, we have some room to spare. . . as long as we don't overdo it!

Hang in there . . . follow your instincts. You know your body better than anyone else does!

Hugs,

Rogene

Re: Need some help!

Hi Patty,I know that you have been thru what I am dealing with, thanks for your support my dear! I actually made a decision last night and did go off this diet and only taking probiotics for now. I see a colon hydotherapist on Sunday Feb. 17th and she is going to be evaluating me. When I spoke to her on the phone and made an appt., she thought my ND was way over loading me. I believe she's on to something. My body is not handling any of this. In the last few weeks, my depression, anxiety, stress level and pain were getting worse. I had entered a real "dark place" that I do not need to be in. My work has gotten so far behind at work and I had started flying off the handle with my daughter. I started to be unable to focus on anything and I had not been like that before. I really felt I was going off the deep end.....had to stop this and take a break. I feel sooooo much better this morning. My

body can't really digest the probiotics but I want to continue those and the kefir and yogurt. I'm praying and very determined to stay positive and get me better.Hugs,Cherie- In , "glory2glory1401" <glory2glory1401@ ...> wrote:>> Cherie,> I was detoxing like crazy, doing supplements, spent hundreds of > dollars we didn't have on therapies, like colonics (got a colema > board too), HBOT, amalgam removal, and more, and yet I was still sick > in the fall of 1999. I was explanted in the spring of 1998. I know > what you are feeling! It was so discouraging!> > I've been there....thought I would never get better even after all my > hard work, but I did not give up and did more

detoxing with fasting. > Eventually things turned around. Just keep on having faith that it > will happen!> > Now I am beyond healed...living like a workaholic and probably not > doing myself any favors healthwise! It will turn around for you. > But make sure you take care of yourself even after you are better. > These bodies of ours demand respect, they are boss! (I think mine is > gonna start whooping on me soon, so I am going to slow down.)> Hugs,> > Patty> > > > >> > > Cherie ~ > > > I am about sure you are dealing with adrenal> > > issues, on top of it all which will zap all your > > > energy. > > > Have you had your blood sugars tested?> > > What all do you eat ? I know you are on the> > > diet, but what does that include for you?> > > Are you getting enough protein? > > > I am not sure why people told you that you> > > would be feeling better at a particular time.> > > It

takes a long time to regenerate a body and> > > replace all the bad guys with good guys.> > > In your situation, you have a special needs> > > daughter, a new business you have started,> > > you have been really ill, you have loss of a > > > gallbladder that your body is still adjusting to,> > > and now you have had implants removed which> > > is also like loss of a body part. While trying to > > > heal from all this, you are working and careing > > > for your daughter, and you are a single parent.> > > Give yourself a break. No-one knows how long> > > it will be til you are better. It is a very slow and > > > long process, and dating it only makes it more > > > frustrating. You are establishing a way of life.> > > A new and healthier one. Give it a couple of > >

> years....... .yes, years ! Then if it happens sooner> > > then you will be happy about that. > > > You know, it took Patty 4 years ! but it happened ! > > > Please, its time to give it to God again. Pray about > > > it. Your body has been through so much in the last> > > few years, emotionally and physically. > > > Learn to manage your energy, eat the foods that > > > give you energy at the times of day you need it.> > > Take breaks during your day to stretch out, and> > > step outside for a few minutes and breathe. Do the> > > breathing exercises get oxygen to that brain and to> > > your organs. Take a 20 minute nap at lunchtime.> > > Eat healthy snacks and be sure you are getting enough> > > water. > > > When you feel frustrated, vent, we are here for you.>

> > Then give it to God, and let him handle it for you.> > > You are in my prayers ~ Love you ~ Dede> > > > > > > > > > > > ************ **Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL > > Music. > > > (http://music. aol.com/grammys/ pictures/ never-won- a-grammy?> > NCID=aolcmp00300000 0025> > > 48)> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

I totally agree about the supplements...I think we can take too

many. There is a balance that is the perfect balance. Now I take

very few supplements, but I do take them, and I also take breaks. I

think almost all ND's will sell their patients tons of supplements.

Most people can seem to handle them, but for some reason, WE CANNOT!

Patty

> > > >

> > > > Cherie ~

> > > > I am about sure you are dealing with adrenal

> > > > issues, on top of it all which will zap all your

> > > > energy.

> > > > Have you had your blood sugars tested?

> > > > What all do you eat ? I know you are on the

> > > > diet, but what does that include for you?

> > > > Are you getting enough protein?

> > > > I am not sure why people told you that you

> > > > would be feeling better at a particular time.

> > > > It takes a long time to regenerate a body and

> > > > replace all the bad guys with good guys.

> > > > In your situation, you have a special needs

> > > > daughter, a new business you have started,

> > > > you have been really ill, you have loss of a

> > > > gallbladder that your body is still adjusting to,

> > > > and now you have had implants removed which

> > > > is also like loss of a body part. While trying to

> > > > heal from all this, you are working and careing

> > > > for your daughter, and you are a single parent.

> > > > Give yourself a break. No-one knows how long

> > > > it will be til you are better. It is a very slow and

> > > > long process, and dating it only makes it more

> > > > frustrating. You are establishing a way of life.

> > > > A new and healthier one. Give it a couple of

> > > > years........yes, years ! Then if it happens sooner

> > > > then you will be happy about that.

> > > > You know, it took Patty 4 years ! but it happened !

> > > > Please, its time to give it to God again. Pray about

> > > > it. Your body has been through so much in the last

> > > > few years, emotionally and physically.

> > > > Learn to manage your energy, eat the foods that

> > > > give you energy at the times of day you need it.

> > > > Take breaks during your day to stretch out, and

> > > > step outside for a few minutes and breathe. Do the

> > > > breathing exercises get oxygen to that brain and to

> > > > your organs. Take a 20 minute nap at lunchtime.

> > > > Eat healthy snacks and be sure you are getting enough

> > > > water.

> > > > When you feel frustrated, vent, we are here for you.

> > > > Then give it to God, and let him handle it for you.

> > > > You are in my prayers ~ Love you ~ Dede

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on

AOL

> > > Music.

> > > > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?

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> > > > 48)

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