Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Barb, I did not know if your question was rhetorical or not, so I did not reply. The way I have been told things from UPMC is regarding LDLT. I am sure you could ask how to do things for a regular transplant. Slivka told us that the way to prevent recurrence is to do the roux-en-Y and also to remove even more ducts from the recipient by using a vessel from my (or the donor’s) leg so as to have more slack to hook them back up. I would imagine with a cadaveric transplant there would be the extra vessels that come with it so I don’t know that it is necessary to do that. This may have been something they did to “fix” the problem for LDLT. The way he talked it seemed fairly new and something being done at few places. If you need anything else, just ask…I don’t know much I just know what he told us in his office that day with great confidence regarding no recurrence if you were transplanted at Starzl. ? on transplant techniques I’m reposting my earlier question, looking for an answer. Does it make a difference HOW a transplant is done? If there is a special technique that makes a difference, I’d sure like to know about it before Ken goes in for his. I’ve looked for studies, articles etc. and can’t find anything. Has any one had (or heard of) a transplant being done in a special or different way? By the way, Baylor isn’t doing LDLT, they did one last year and that patient passed away. Barb in Texas - Together in the Fight, Whatever it Takes! Son Ken (32) UC 91 - PSC 99 Listed 7/21 @ Baylor Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Barb, I did not know if your question was rhetorical or not, so I did not reply. The way I have been told things from UPMC is regarding LDLT. I am sure you could ask how to do things for a regular transplant. Slivka told us that the way to prevent recurrence is to do the roux-en-Y and also to remove even more ducts from the recipient by using a vessel from my (or the donor’s) leg so as to have more slack to hook them back up. I would imagine with a cadaveric transplant there would be the extra vessels that come with it so I don’t know that it is necessary to do that. This may have been something they did to “fix” the problem for LDLT. The way he talked it seemed fairly new and something being done at few places. If you need anything else, just ask…I don’t know much I just know what he told us in his office that day with great confidence regarding no recurrence if you were transplanted at Starzl. ? on transplant techniques I’m reposting my earlier question, looking for an answer. Does it make a difference HOW a transplant is done? If there is a special technique that makes a difference, I’d sure like to know about it before Ken goes in for his. I’ve looked for studies, articles etc. and can’t find anything. Has any one had (or heard of) a transplant being done in a special or different way? By the way, Baylor isn’t doing LDLT, they did one last year and that patient passed away. Barb in Texas - Together in the Fight, Whatever it Takes! Son Ken (32) UC 91 - PSC 99 Listed 7/21 @ Baylor Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Barb, I did not know if your question was rhetorical or not, so I did not reply. The way I have been told things from UPMC is regarding LDLT. I am sure you could ask how to do things for a regular transplant. Slivka told us that the way to prevent recurrence is to do the roux-en-Y and also to remove even more ducts from the recipient by using a vessel from my (or the donor’s) leg so as to have more slack to hook them back up. I would imagine with a cadaveric transplant there would be the extra vessels that come with it so I don’t know that it is necessary to do that. This may have been something they did to “fix” the problem for LDLT. The way he talked it seemed fairly new and something being done at few places. If you need anything else, just ask…I don’t know much I just know what he told us in his office that day with great confidence regarding no recurrence if you were transplanted at Starzl. ? on transplant techniques I’m reposting my earlier question, looking for an answer. Does it make a difference HOW a transplant is done? If there is a special technique that makes a difference, I’d sure like to know about it before Ken goes in for his. I’ve looked for studies, articles etc. and can’t find anything. Has any one had (or heard of) a transplant being done in a special or different way? By the way, Baylor isn’t doing LDLT, they did one last year and that patient passed away. Barb in Texas - Together in the Fight, Whatever it Takes! Son Ken (32) UC 91 - PSC 99 Listed 7/21 @ Baylor Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Hi Barb, Was the patient who passed away after the LDLT at Baylor last year the recipient or the donor? mother of Joe (32) UC 1987, J-pouch 1999, PSC, acute pancreatitis 03/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Hi Barb, Was the patient who passed away after the LDLT at Baylor last year the recipient or the donor? mother of Joe (32) UC 1987, J-pouch 1999, PSC, acute pancreatitis 03/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2006 Report Share Posted September 20, 2006 Hi Barb, Was the patient who passed away after the LDLT at Baylor last year the recipient or the donor? mother of Joe (32) UC 1987, J-pouch 1999, PSC, acute pancreatitis 03/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 > Does it make a difference HOW a transplant is done? If there is a > special technique that makes a difference, I'd sure like to know about > it before Ken goes in for his. I remember Ruth talking about how 's transplant was done differently from what they would have chosen to do at Mayo, which came up during their trip to Mayo earlier this year. What this difference was, I'm not sure. From the various papers posted here in the past, my understanding is that there are at least two methods. One is the Roux-en-Y, the other is duct-to-duct anastomosis (joining). I was surprised when they told me that doing a biliary bypass would involve Roux-en-Y. The way it was described to me, if you imagine the small intestine with the letters A, B and C on it in order from the stomach down, there is a cut made at A, which is rejoined to C, leaving the B to C stretch free to be pulled upwards and attach to the hepatic duct, or ducts, depending on what ducts were available out of the liver above the stricture. I think that anastomosis has more potential problems with stenosis or strictures at the joining. Martha (MA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 > Does it make a difference HOW a transplant is done? If there is a > special technique that makes a difference, I'd sure like to know about > it before Ken goes in for his. I remember Ruth talking about how 's transplant was done differently from what they would have chosen to do at Mayo, which came up during their trip to Mayo earlier this year. What this difference was, I'm not sure. From the various papers posted here in the past, my understanding is that there are at least two methods. One is the Roux-en-Y, the other is duct-to-duct anastomosis (joining). I was surprised when they told me that doing a biliary bypass would involve Roux-en-Y. The way it was described to me, if you imagine the small intestine with the letters A, B and C on it in order from the stomach down, there is a cut made at A, which is rejoined to C, leaving the B to C stretch free to be pulled upwards and attach to the hepatic duct, or ducts, depending on what ducts were available out of the liver above the stricture. I think that anastomosis has more potential problems with stenosis or strictures at the joining. Martha (MA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 ----Original Message----- From the various papers posted here in the past, my understanding is that there are at least two methods. One is the Roux-en-Y, the other is duct-to-duct anastomosis (joining). Love the way you explained it, sure made it easy to understand! I guess nothing stops the PSC from returning - if it wants to. There is a doctor in Arkansas who states his way of doing liver transplants is best – less complications. Instead of making a straight cut across, he cuts a V shape in each end and says this makes the connections stronger (less leaks). I’ll look and see if I can show you. Barb in Texas - Together in the Fight, Whatever it Takes! Son Ken (32) UC 91 - PSC 99 Listed 7/21 @ Baylor Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 ----Original Message----- From the various papers posted here in the past, my understanding is that there are at least two methods. One is the Roux-en-Y, the other is duct-to-duct anastomosis (joining). Love the way you explained it, sure made it easy to understand! I guess nothing stops the PSC from returning - if it wants to. There is a doctor in Arkansas who states his way of doing liver transplants is best – less complications. Instead of making a straight cut across, he cuts a V shape in each end and says this makes the connections stronger (less leaks). I’ll look and see if I can show you. Barb in Texas - Together in the Fight, Whatever it Takes! Son Ken (32) UC 91 - PSC 99 Listed 7/21 @ Baylor Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2006 Report Share Posted September 21, 2006 ----Original Message----- From the various papers posted here in the past, my understanding is that there are at least two methods. One is the Roux-en-Y, the other is duct-to-duct anastomosis (joining). Love the way you explained it, sure made it easy to understand! I guess nothing stops the PSC from returning - if it wants to. There is a doctor in Arkansas who states his way of doing liver transplants is best – less complications. Instead of making a straight cut across, he cuts a V shape in each end and says this makes the connections stronger (less leaks). I’ll look and see if I can show you. Barb in Texas - Together in the Fight, Whatever it Takes! Son Ken (32) UC 91 - PSC 99 Listed 7/21 @ Baylor Dallas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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