Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Hi Dean, I was blood tested for: 1. anti-gliadin IgA Antibody 2. anti-gliadin IgG Antibody 3. anti-transglutaminase IgA Antibody 4. Immunoglobulin IgA These blood tests show up celiac disease. I also had a biopsy which clinched the deal. Celiac Disease is a genetic intolerance to gluten. Unlike an allergy, celiac disease is an autoimmune condition. The body destroys the villi of the small intestine, causing malabsorption, anemia, lymphoma and intestinal cnacer. An allergy or sensitivity to gluten does not dammage the small intestine, is not as serious as celiac disease and will not show up on these blood tests. Even though an allergy to gluten can make one miserable the small intestine is not destroyed. I have to say that since being on a gluten free diet, I feel a lot better, and even lost some weight. Also for these blood tests to be of any benefit, you have to have been eating gluten (some say for 2 weeks and some say at least 6 weeks). Otherwise you are wasting your money as it will probably show up negative if you have been on a gluten free diet before blood testing. Hope this helps. Any more questions feel free to ask as I have had to do a lot of reading on this to keep well. V > > > In AI Andy recommends to test for Celiac disease if there is suspicion. > > He recommends and IgA antibodies test I think? (I lent my book out for the weekend) > > On this website it says: http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/celiac/index.htm > To diagnose celiac disease, physicians will usually test blood to measure levels of > a.. Immunoglobulin A (IgA) > b.. anti-tissue transglutaminase (tTGA) > c.. IgA anti-endomysium antibodies (AEA) > Has anybody used any of these tests to screen for celiac disease, and would it show up gluten intolerance, or is that the same thing as Celiac? > > Thanks, > Dean > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 > He recommends and IgA antibodies test I think? (I lent my book out for the weekend) > > On this website it says: http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/celiac/index.htm > To diagnose celiac disease, physicians will usually test blood to measure levels of > a.. Immunoglobulin A (IgA) > b.. anti-tissue transglutaminase (tTGA) > c.. IgA anti-endomysium antibodies (AEA) > Has anybody used any of these tests to screen for celiac disease, and would it show up gluten intolerance, or is that the same thing as Celiac? > > Thanks, > Dean Dean, A good site for celiac information is www.celiac.com. The blood tests you list sound like the standard blood tests for detecting celiac disease. Some doctors consider a small intestine biopsy the gold standard test for diagnosing celiac. However, especially in less advanced cases, the areas the surgeon chooses to biopsy might not necessarily be the areas that have villa damage, so this test isn't foolproof, despite its invasiveness. Blood tests have drawbacks too. The celiac antibodies present first in the small intestine, the initial area of damage. It takes a fair amount of villi damage before the celiac antibodies can be detected systemwide in the blood. There are lots of testimonials about people who had negative blood tests despite having celiac disease. And as Maribob mentioned, a person must be eating sufficient gluten for a sufficient period of time for the antibodies to form and be detected in the blood. I like the approach of Dr. Fine better. He has developed a test that will measure the antibodies in a stool sample. His test will detect celiac before there is villa damage, so is much more sensitive than the blood tests. Enterolabs is his company name, see https://www.enterolab.com/Home.htm. If you can FedEx or express ship from South Africa to the US, someone living there should be able to do his test. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 > He recommends and IgA antibodies test I think? (I lent my book out for the weekend) > > On this website it says: http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/celiac/index.htm > To diagnose celiac disease, physicians will usually test blood to measure levels of > a.. Immunoglobulin A (IgA) > b.. anti-tissue transglutaminase (tTGA) > c.. IgA anti-endomysium antibodies (AEA) > Has anybody used any of these tests to screen for celiac disease, and would it show up gluten intolerance, or is that the same thing as Celiac? > > Thanks, > Dean Dean, A good site for celiac information is www.celiac.com. The blood tests you list sound like the standard blood tests for detecting celiac disease. Some doctors consider a small intestine biopsy the gold standard test for diagnosing celiac. However, especially in less advanced cases, the areas the surgeon chooses to biopsy might not necessarily be the areas that have villa damage, so this test isn't foolproof, despite its invasiveness. Blood tests have drawbacks too. The celiac antibodies present first in the small intestine, the initial area of damage. It takes a fair amount of villi damage before the celiac antibodies can be detected systemwide in the blood. There are lots of testimonials about people who had negative blood tests despite having celiac disease. And as Maribob mentioned, a person must be eating sufficient gluten for a sufficient period of time for the antibodies to form and be detected in the blood. I like the approach of Dr. Fine better. He has developed a test that will measure the antibodies in a stool sample. His test will detect celiac before there is villa damage, so is much more sensitive than the blood tests. Enterolabs is his company name, see https://www.enterolab.com/Home.htm. If you can FedEx or express ship from South Africa to the US, someone living there should be able to do his test. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 > He recommends and IgA antibodies test I think? (I lent my book out for the weekend) > > On this website it says: http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/celiac/index.htm > To diagnose celiac disease, physicians will usually test blood to measure levels of > a.. Immunoglobulin A (IgA) > b.. anti-tissue transglutaminase (tTGA) > c.. IgA anti-endomysium antibodies (AEA) > Has anybody used any of these tests to screen for celiac disease, and would it show up gluten intolerance, or is that the same thing as Celiac? > > Thanks, > Dean Dean, A good site for celiac information is www.celiac.com. The blood tests you list sound like the standard blood tests for detecting celiac disease. Some doctors consider a small intestine biopsy the gold standard test for diagnosing celiac. However, especially in less advanced cases, the areas the surgeon chooses to biopsy might not necessarily be the areas that have villa damage, so this test isn't foolproof, despite its invasiveness. Blood tests have drawbacks too. The celiac antibodies present first in the small intestine, the initial area of damage. It takes a fair amount of villi damage before the celiac antibodies can be detected systemwide in the blood. There are lots of testimonials about people who had negative blood tests despite having celiac disease. And as Maribob mentioned, a person must be eating sufficient gluten for a sufficient period of time for the antibodies to form and be detected in the blood. I like the approach of Dr. Fine better. He has developed a test that will measure the antibodies in a stool sample. His test will detect celiac before there is villa damage, so is much more sensitive than the blood tests. Enterolabs is his company name, see https://www.enterolab.com/Home.htm. If you can FedEx or express ship from South Africa to the US, someone living there should be able to do his test. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2006 Report Share Posted December 4, 2006 Hi, Everything Lynn said is correct, but I will add that the enterolab and blood tests are inconclusive if you cannot produce IgA. I don't. The enterolab report says this is the case for 1 in 500 people. The Great Smokies (now Genova) report for the blood tests says that people WITH celiac have a 10-15 times greater frequency of deficient IgA. If it will be very costly for you to do stool or blood celiac testing, you might test IgA first and skip it if you don't produce IgA. In that case, biospy or gluten-free diet trial would be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Celiac is a genetic autoimmune disease. It does not go away. If you have celiac disease it is manditory that you do not eat gluten, because it will destroy the villi in the small intestine causing numerous problems of which some (such as lymphoma and intestinal cancer) can be life threatening. Even though some celiacs can eat gluten and feel no symptoms, there is still dammage being done. As Lynn said, an enzyme to swallow that breaks down gluten does sound promising, but still some are doubtful that complete dammage will stop with it. I am so at ease with a gluten free diet, I plan of sticking with it. V > > I was tested for Celiac (blood test only) and it came out positive. > Also found a ton of other foods I'm allergic to (because of leaky gut). > Most of my food reactions have gone down and some have even gone away > since I've been treating the leaky gut. > What I'd like to know is, will the Celiac go away too? > Anyone know? > Thanks much, > :^) > Alessa > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Celiac is a genetic autoimmune disease. It does not go away. If you have celiac disease it is manditory that you do not eat gluten, because it will destroy the villi in the small intestine causing numerous problems of which some (such as lymphoma and intestinal cancer) can be life threatening. Even though some celiacs can eat gluten and feel no symptoms, there is still dammage being done. As Lynn said, an enzyme to swallow that breaks down gluten does sound promising, but still some are doubtful that complete dammage will stop with it. I am so at ease with a gluten free diet, I plan of sticking with it. V > > I was tested for Celiac (blood test only) and it came out positive. > Also found a ton of other foods I'm allergic to (because of leaky gut). > Most of my food reactions have gone down and some have even gone away > since I've been treating the leaky gut. > What I'd like to know is, will the Celiac go away too? > Anyone know? > Thanks much, > :^) > Alessa > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2006 Report Share Posted December 5, 2006 Celiac is a genetic autoimmune disease. It does not go away. If you have celiac disease it is manditory that you do not eat gluten, because it will destroy the villi in the small intestine causing numerous problems of which some (such as lymphoma and intestinal cancer) can be life threatening. Even though some celiacs can eat gluten and feel no symptoms, there is still dammage being done. As Lynn said, an enzyme to swallow that breaks down gluten does sound promising, but still some are doubtful that complete dammage will stop with it. I am so at ease with a gluten free diet, I plan of sticking with it. V > > I was tested for Celiac (blood test only) and it came out positive. > Also found a ton of other foods I'm allergic to (because of leaky gut). > Most of my food reactions have gone down and some have even gone away > since I've been treating the leaky gut. > What I'd like to know is, will the Celiac go away too? > Anyone know? > Thanks much, > :^) > Alessa > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2006 Report Share Posted December 6, 2006 Like I said , just relaying what I remember reading, don't remember all the details, but I thought she said they had celiac disease, meaning they had been tested for it, but I don't remember if they were tested afterwards. I don't have time to check this out, and since its not an issue for me, I really don't need to pursue it either. Just wanted to throw it out there. What you say certainly makes sense too. Jackie In frequent-dose-chelation , maribob7 wrote: I just wonder if these children had true genitic celiac disease or were just allergic to gluten...big difference. I hope this person had her children tested after eating gluten again, as lack of symptoms does not mean the disease process went away. From everything I have read, celiac disease does not go away, and one does not get over it. V > > I am no expert on this and have no idea if this is true or accurate, but I thought I recall that Dana from the Autism-Mercury group said she knew of two kids who had celiac disease and then were able to eat gluten after being fully chelated. I'm not sure if they were retested or what the details are, but just thought I'd mention it, in case you want to research their archives or check out her website or ask her personally. I think the link is www.danasview.net > Like I said, I have no idea if this is true, and what and Lynn said makes sense, but I just wanted to mention this, in case you want to look into it. And here's a thought, if we believe that mercury can cause autoimmune diseases, and if celiac is autoimmune, then could it possibly be caused by mercury, and possibly go away with mercury chelation? I'll let you experts figure that one out! > > Jackie T > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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