Re: Celiac and Gluten

[Guest guest]

Hi Dean, I was blood tested for:

1. anti-gliadin IgA Antibody

2. anti-gliadin IgG Antibody

3. anti-transglutaminase IgA Antibody

4. Immunoglobulin IgA

These blood tests show up celiac disease. I also had a biopsy which

clinched the deal.

Celiac Disease is a genetic intolerance to gluten. Unlike an allergy,

celiac disease is an autoimmune condition. The body destroys the

villi of the small intestine, causing malabsorption, anemia, lymphoma

and intestinal cnacer. An allergy or sensitivity to gluten does not

dammage the small intestine, is not as serious as celiac disease and

will not show up on these blood tests. Even though an allergy to

gluten can make one miserable the small intestine is not destroyed. I

have to say that since being on a gluten free diet, I feel a lot

better, and even lost some weight.

Also for these blood tests to be of any benefit, you have to have

been eating gluten (some say for 2 weeks and some say at least 6

weeks). Otherwise you are wasting your money as it will probably show

up negative if you have been on a gluten free diet before blood

testing.

Hope this helps. Any more questions feel free to ask as I have had to

do a lot of reading on this to keep well. V

>

>

> In AI Andy recommends to test for Celiac disease if there is

suspicion.

>

> He recommends and IgA antibodies test I think? (I lent my book out

for the weekend)

>

> On this website it says:

http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/celiac/index.htm

> To diagnose celiac disease, physicians will usually test blood to

measure levels of

> a.. Immunoglobulin A (IgA)

> b.. anti-tissue transglutaminase (tTGA)

> c.. IgA anti-endomysium antibodies (AEA)

> Has anybody used any of these tests to screen for celiac disease,

and would it show up gluten intolerance, or is that the same thing as

Celiac?

>

> Thanks,

> Dean

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was tested for Celiac (blood test only) and it came out positive.

Also found a ton of other foods I'm allergic to (because of leaky gut).

Most of my food reactions have gone down and some have even gone away

since I've been treating the leaky gut.

What I'd like to know is, will the Celiac go away too?

Anyone know?

Thanks much,

:^)

Alessa

Re: Celiac and Gluten

Posted by: " Lynn McGaha " lmcgaha@... lynnmcgaha

Sun Dec 3, 2006 8:42 pm (PST)

> He recommends and IgA antibodies test I think? (I lent my book out

for the

weekend)

>

> On this website it says:

http://digestive. niddk.nih. gov/ddiseases/ pubs/celiac/ index.htm

> To diagnose celiac disease, physicians will usually test blood to

measure

levels of

> a.. Immunoglobulin A (IgA)

> b.. anti-tissue transglutaminase (tTGA)

> c.. IgA anti-endomysium antibodies (AEA)

> Has anybody used any of these tests to screen for celiac disease, and

would it show up gluten intolerance, or is that the same thing as

Celiac?

>

> Thanks,

> Dean

Dean,

A good site for celiac information is www.celiac.com.

The blood tests you list sound like the standard blood tests for

detecting

celiac disease. Some doctors consider a small intestine biopsy the gold

standard test for diagnosing celiac. However, especially in less

advanced

cases, the areas the surgeon chooses to biopsy might not necessarily be

the

areas that have villa damage, so this test isn't foolproof, despite its

invasiveness.

Blood tests have drawbacks too. The celiac antibodies present first in

the

small intestine, the initial area of damage. It takes a fair amount of

villi damage before the celiac antibodies can be detected systemwide in

the

blood. There are lots of testimonials about people who had negative

blood

tests despite having celiac disease. And as Maribob mentioned, a person

must be eating sufficient gluten for a sufficient period of time for

the

antibodies to form and be detected in the blood.

I like the approach of Dr. Fine better. He has developed a test

that will measure the antibodies in a stool sample. His test will

detect

celiac before there is villa damage, so is much more sensitive than the

blood tests. Enterolabs is his company name, see

https://www. enterolab. com/Home. htm. If you can FedEx or express ship

from

South Africa to the US, someone living there should be able to do his

test.

Lynn

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[Guest guest]

I was tested for Celiac (blood test only) and it came out positive.

Also found a ton of other foods I'm allergic to (because of leaky gut).

Most of my food reactions have gone down and some have even gone away

since I've been treating the leaky gut.

What I'd like to know is, will the Celiac go away too?

Anyone know?

Thanks much,

:^)

Alessa

Re: Celiac and Gluten

Posted by: " Lynn McGaha " lmcgaha@... lynnmcgaha

Sun Dec 3, 2006 8:42 pm (PST)

> He recommends and IgA antibodies test I think? (I lent my book out

for the

weekend)

>

> On this website it says:

http://digestive. niddk.nih. gov/ddiseases/ pubs/celiac/ index.htm

> To diagnose celiac disease, physicians will usually test blood to

measure

levels of

> a.. Immunoglobulin A (IgA)

> b.. anti-tissue transglutaminase (tTGA)

> c.. IgA anti-endomysium antibodies (AEA)

> Has anybody used any of these tests to screen for celiac disease, and

would it show up gluten intolerance, or is that the same thing as

Celiac?

>

> Thanks,

> Dean

Dean,

A good site for celiac information is www.celiac.com.

The blood tests you list sound like the standard blood tests for

detecting

celiac disease. Some doctors consider a small intestine biopsy the gold

standard test for diagnosing celiac. However, especially in less

advanced

cases, the areas the surgeon chooses to biopsy might not necessarily be

the

areas that have villa damage, so this test isn't foolproof, despite its

invasiveness.

Blood tests have drawbacks too. The celiac antibodies present first in

the

small intestine, the initial area of damage. It takes a fair amount of

villi damage before the celiac antibodies can be detected systemwide in

the

blood. There are lots of testimonials about people who had negative

blood

tests despite having celiac disease. And as Maribob mentioned, a person

must be eating sufficient gluten for a sufficient period of time for

the

antibodies to form and be detected in the blood.

I like the approach of Dr. Fine better. He has developed a test

that will measure the antibodies in a stool sample. His test will

detect

celiac before there is villa damage, so is much more sensitive than the

blood tests. Enterolabs is his company name, see

https://www. enterolab. com/Home. htm. If you can FedEx or express ship

from

South Africa to the US, someone living there should be able to do his

test.

Lynn

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[Guest guest]

> I was tested for Celiac (blood test only) and it came out positive.

> Also found a ton of other foods I'm allergic to (because of leaky gut).

> Most of my food reactions have gone down and some have even gone away

> since I've been treating the leaky gut.

> What I'd like to know is, will the Celiac go away too?

> Anyone know?

> Thanks much,

> :^)

> Alessa

Celiac disease is not an allergy, and it will not go away. However, there

is some promising new research:

http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20030621/bob9.asp.

Researchers are working on developing a supplemental enzyme that breaks down

the gluten peptide. Maybe a pill will be available in the future.

Lynn

[Guest guest]

> I was tested for Celiac (blood test only) and it came out positive.

> Also found a ton of other foods I'm allergic to (because of leaky gut).

> Most of my food reactions have gone down and some have even gone away

> since I've been treating the leaky gut.

> What I'd like to know is, will the Celiac go away too?

> Anyone know?

> Thanks much,

> :^)

> Alessa

Celiac disease is not an allergy, and it will not go away. However, there

is some promising new research:

http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20030621/bob9.asp.

Researchers are working on developing a supplemental enzyme that breaks down

the gluten peptide. Maybe a pill will be available in the future.

Lynn

[Guest guest]

I was told once that the reason they keep testing for Hashimoto's antibodies is

because

sometimes they go away. If that's the case, why couldn't it be the same with

Celiac?

My Dr. prescribed Ketotifen Fumarate which is supposed to be very helpful

(though not

meant as a cure). Alas, it's another medication I can't tolerate. One of the

side effects when

you first start taking it is sleepiness, and I have far too much of that

already!

I'm pretty good about remaining gluten free but it is a challenge sometimes, and

sometimes I get fed-up with everything and am bad, very very bad. But I'm one of

those

people that doesn't notice any difference when I eat wheat, only that it can

make me

sleepy sometimes.

Thanks,

Alessa

Re: Celiac and Gluten

Posted by: " Jackie " jtrunt@... jackietutts

Tue Dec 5, 2006 11:33 am (PST)

I am no expert on this and have no idea if this is true or accurate, but I

thought I recall

that Dana from the Autism-Mercury group said she knew of two kids who had celiac

disease and then were able to eat gluten after being fully chelated. I'm not

sure if they

were retested or what the details are, but just thought I'd mention it, in case

you want to

research their archives or check out her website or ask her personally. I think

the link is

www.danasview. net

Like I said, I have no idea if this is true, and what and Lynn said makes

sense, but I

just wanted to mention this, in case you want to look into it. And here's a

thought, if we

believe that mercury can cause autoimmune diseases, and if celiac is autoimmune,

then

could it possibly be caused by mercury, and possibly go away with mercury

chelation? I'll

let you experts figure that one out!

Jackie T

[frequent-dose- chelation] Re: Celiac and Gluten

Celiac is a genetic autoimmune disease. It does not go away. If you

have celiac disease it is manditory that you do not eat gluten, because

it will destroy the villi in the small intestine causing numerous

problems of which some (such as lymphoma and intestinal cancer) can be

life threatening. Even though some celiacs can eat gluten and feel no

symptoms, there is still dammage being done. As Lynn said, an enzyme to

swallow that breaks down gluten does sound promising, but still some

are doubtful that complete dammage will stop with it. I am so at ease

with a gluten free diet, I plan of sticking with it. V

[Guest guest]

Like I said , just relaying what I remember reading, don't remember all the

details, but I thought she said they had celiac disease, meaning they had been

tested for it, but I don't remember if they were tested afterwards. I don't

have time to check this out, and since its not an issue for me, I really don't

need to pursue it either. Just wanted to throw it out there. What you say

certainly makes sense too.

Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation , maribob7 wrote:

I just wonder if these children had true genitic celiac disease or

were just allergic to gluten...big difference. I hope this person had

her children tested after eating gluten again, as lack of symptoms

does not mean the disease process went away. From everything I have

read, celiac disease does not go away, and one does not get over it.

V

>

> I am no expert on this and have no idea if this is true or

accurate, but I thought I recall that Dana from the Autism-Mercury

group said she knew of two kids who had celiac disease and then were

able to eat gluten after being fully chelated. I'm not sure if they

were retested or what the details are, but just thought I'd mention

it, in case you want to research their archives or check out her

website or ask her personally. I think the link is www.danasview.net

> Like I said, I have no idea if this is true, and what and Lynn

said makes sense, but I just wanted to mention this, in case you want

to look into it. And here's a thought, if we believe that mercury

can cause autoimmune diseases, and if celiac is autoimmune, then

could it possibly be caused by mercury, and possibly go away with

mercury chelation? I'll let you experts figure that one out!

>

> Jackie T

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Alessa, In celiac disease, when a celiac is on a gluten free diet,

antibodies will decrease and go down to normal. This is why one must

have been eating gluten for a positive antibody test. Also retesting

for antibodies after following a gluten free diet for a year or so is

one way to make sure you are not eating gluten hidden somewhere. But

that does not mean a cure, because if a celiac goes back and eats

gluten the antibodies will return again and gluten will still do it's

dammage. V

>

> I was told once that the reason they keep testing for Hashimoto's

antibodies is because

> sometimes they go away. If that's the case, why couldn't it be the

same with Celiac?

[Guest guest]

Hi Alessa, In celiac disease, when a celiac is on a gluten free diet,

antibodies will decrease and go down to normal. This is why one must

have been eating gluten for a positive antibody test. Also retesting

for antibodies after following a gluten free diet for a year or so is

one way to make sure you are not eating gluten hidden somewhere. But

that does not mean a cure, because if a celiac goes back and eats

gluten the antibodies will return again and gluten will still do it's

dammage. V

>

> I was told once that the reason they keep testing for Hashimoto's

antibodies is because

> sometimes they go away. If that's the case, why couldn't it be the

same with Celiac?