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Interesting question, reciprocity. My thoughts:

1. The National Registry sets STANDARDS for certification in

EMS. They don't AUTHORIZE performance or certification as an

EMS person. So, just because we use NR standards, doesn't mean

the person is automatically authorized. I believe that's nearly

ALWAYS up to the individual states. Doesn't the practice of

medicine by a physician, or the practice of law by an attorney,

fall in that same realm? They are essentially trained to the

same standards across all the states, but each state still authorizes

practice within their borders.

I think it's pretty easy in Texas. From the website:

" Requirements for initial Texas certification by way of National

Registry (NR) card:

• Applicants with current 1st Responder, EMT, EMT-I or Paramedic

NR certification

• At least 18 years old

• Complete high school or GED certificate (Texas Education

Agency approved or out-of-state equivalent)

• Submit EMS Personnel Certification Application and fee "

As for " practice " vs " representing " as an EMS person, they are

different, but the statute speaks to BOTH. So I'd say if you

do EITHER, you are in violation.

What is repsenting? Didn't find that definition, but in another

statute they do define it, and though not exactly applicable,

may give an idea of what this entails:

>From 74R - S.B. No. 1478 (a Texas senate committee report):

" (B) A person represents himself to be a " psychologist "

within the meaning of this Act when the person:

(1) <he> holds himself out to the public by any title

or description of services incorporating the words " psychological, "

" psychologists, " or " psychology; " < " psychology, " > or

(2) renders or offers to render psychological services

to individuals, groups, organizations, or the public. "

So, if that's a standard definition, you may be " representing "

yourself as an EMS person by just saying " I'm a Paramedic " .

Maybe not what they intended, but ...?

=Steve=

Steve , LP

AlertCPR Emergency Training

2300 Highland Village Rd, Suite 340

Highland Village, TX 75077

>--- Original Message ---

>

>To: < >

>Date: 1/27/05 3:11:59 PM

>

>Representing and practicing as, are two different things. No

matter where I

>go I am still a paramedic. If I go to Ark, Okla, La, N.M., or

Colo., I am

>still a paramedic. I can attend any conference as a paramedic.

I may not be

>able to practice in any of these states without reciprocity,

but I am still

>a paramedic. As for practicing, if a person falls out in front

of me, I will

>do what I can as for as CPR and basic first aid under the Good

Samaritan

>Law, no matter what state I am in.

>

>Ronnie Morton

>

>

> Re: Re: recoprocity

>

>

> Very nice. Now, comes the question:

>

> If an out of state attendee at the EMS conference " represents

himself "

> as a paramedic/EMT while in attendance, regardless of whether

or not

> he practices as such, is he then in violation of the law since

he

> doesn't hold a certificate from TDH?

>

> Not " I'm a Texas EMT, " but " I'm an EMT. "

>

> Technically, looks like a violation...

>

> And, if the NREMT-P works for a doctor, but it's NOT called

a

> paramedic position, just some sort of medical assistant (not

the

> certified MA), would that be illegal, too?

>

> Mike :)

>

> PS - Just being the devil's advocate...

>

>

> On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 18:54:20 -0000, candsquiroz

>wrote:

> >

> >

> > It is the law! Look in 773..

> >

> > For Personnel

> >

> > § 773.041. LICENSE OR CERTIFICATE REQUIRED. (B) A person

may not

> > practice as any type of emergency medical services personnel

unless

> > the person is certified under this chapter and rules adopted

under

> > this chapter.

> >

> > § 773.064. CRIMINAL PENALTIES. (a) A person commits

> > an offense if the person knowingly practices as, attempts

to

> > practice as, or represents himself to be an emergency medical

> > technician-paramedic, emergency medical technician-intermediate,

> > emergency medical technician, emergency care attendant,

or

> > licensed paramedic and the person does not hold an appropriate

> > certificate issued by the department under this chapter.

An

> > offense under this subsection is a Class A misdemeanor.

> >

> > For the Provider..

> >

> > § 773.050. MINIMUM STANDARDS. (a) Each basic

> > life-support emergency medical services vehicle when in

service

> > must be staffed by at least two individuals certified as

emergency

> > care attendants or certified at a higher level of training.

> >

> > Have to have a license or cert.

> >

> > Chris

> >

> >

> > > > > You must take a Paramedic Training Course and become

certified

> > as

> > > > with any

> > > > > advance of your certification. Is this the answer

to the

> > question

> > > > you asked?

> > > > >

> > > > > Danny L.

> > > > > Owner/NREMT-P

> > > > > Panhandle Emergency Training Services And Response

> > > > > (PETSAR)

> > > > > Office

> > > > > FAX

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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