Re: JT's before chelation hairtest, just for fun

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The only thing I would add is with an all low test, Andy

recommends taking something to improve absorption - digestive

enzymes and/or something acidic (betaine HCL, ascorbic acid)

with meals. I guess that's not in the book but he often says

it in the a-m archives.

Andy also comments in archives that " all low " presentation means

toxics are higher than they appear.

Possibly worth thinking about supp'ing boron, but Andy doesn't

say this. If your bones are thin, might be worthwhile.

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[Guest guest]

,

The only thing I would add is with an all low test, Andy

recommends taking something to improve absorption - digestive

enzymes and/or something acidic (betaine HCL, ascorbic acid)

with meals. I guess that's not in the book but he often says

it in the a-m archives.

Andy also comments in archives that " all low " presentation means

toxics are higher than they appear.

Possibly worth thinking about supp'ing boron, but Andy doesn't

say this. If your bones are thin, might be worthwhile.

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[Guest guest]

> The only thing I would add is with an all low test, Andy

> recommends taking something to improve absorption - digestive

> enzymes and/or something acidic (betaine HCL, ascorbic acid)

I have been using ascorbic acid, sometimes HCl.

> with meals. I guess that's not in the book but he often says

> it in the a-m archives.

>

> Andy also comments in archives that " all low " presentation means

> toxics are higher than they appear.

>

I wonder if that makes the arsenic a problem, but I guess it will get

chelated out with the DMPS I am using. I don't know how to tell if

lead is a significant factor. If I am using DMPS only, and then

DMPS/ALA, I don't know if lead would start moving.

> Possibly worth thinking about supp'ing boron, but Andy doesn't

> say this. If your bones are thin, might be worthwhile.

>

I wasn't sure about that at first. I think I'll take the sample for

the next test and then supplement some. My bones are ok (bone density

much higher than average for my height and weight).

On the 's group that I follow there was a case of a woman who

was taking large amounts of Cortef and wasn't absorbing it well

(tested to find that there wasn't enough getting in her blood but lots

in urine). Her doctors found that she was deficient in one element -

I can't remember what it was - they supplemented that and she was able

to cut the cortef to a reasonable dose. Thanks for reminding me -

I'll sort through archives and see if I can find her post.

Thanks .

J

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[Guest guest]

> The only thing I would add is with an all low test, Andy

> recommends taking something to improve absorption - digestive

> enzymes and/or something acidic (betaine HCL, ascorbic acid)

I have been using ascorbic acid, sometimes HCl.

> with meals. I guess that's not in the book but he often says

> it in the a-m archives.

>

> Andy also comments in archives that " all low " presentation means

> toxics are higher than they appear.

>

I wonder if that makes the arsenic a problem, but I guess it will get

chelated out with the DMPS I am using. I don't know how to tell if

lead is a significant factor. If I am using DMPS only, and then

DMPS/ALA, I don't know if lead would start moving.

> Possibly worth thinking about supp'ing boron, but Andy doesn't

> say this. If your bones are thin, might be worthwhile.

>

I wasn't sure about that at first. I think I'll take the sample for

the next test and then supplement some. My bones are ok (bone density

much higher than average for my height and weight).

On the 's group that I follow there was a case of a woman who

was taking large amounts of Cortef and wasn't absorbing it well

(tested to find that there wasn't enough getting in her blood but lots

in urine). Her doctors found that she was deficient in one element -

I can't remember what it was - they supplemented that and she was able

to cut the cortef to a reasonable dose. Thanks for reminding me -

I'll sort through archives and see if I can find her post.

Thanks .

J

> --

>

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> I wonder if that makes the arsenic a problem, but I guess it will get

> chelated out with the DMPS I am using. I don't know how to tell if

> lead is a significant factor. If I am using DMPS only, and then

> DMPS/ALA, I don't know if lead would start moving.

I recently found the post below on onibasu. Andy states here

that DMPS does move lead, just not as efficiently as DMSA:

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/99022.html

> > Possibly worth thinking about supp'ing boron, but Andy doesn't

> > say this. If your bones are thin, might be worthwhile.

> >

>

>

> I wasn't sure about that at first. I think I'll take the sample for

> the next test and then supplement some. My bones are ok (bone density

> much higher than average for my height and weight).

There's a strong genetic component to this I think. My bones are

terrible, like my Dad. My mother, at age 75, has much better bone

density than I do.

Boron doesn't seem to be understood well. It does seem to be

connected to bone growth. Sounds like your bones don't need

any help, though. That's great!

> On the 's group that I follow there was a case of a woman who

> was taking large amounts of Cortef and wasn't absorbing it well

> (tested to find that there wasn't enough getting in her blood but lots

> in urine). Her doctors found that she was deficient in one element -

> I can't remember what it was - they supplemented that and she was able

> to cut the cortef to a reasonable dose. Thanks for reminding me -

> I'll sort through archives and see if I can find her post.

That's interesting. If you find that post, I'd really like to

know what she was low in. I wonder if being low in whatever it

is makes a person dump their own cortisol in urine, too. Hm.

> Thanks .

>

> J

You're welcome!

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> I wonder if that makes the arsenic a problem, but I guess it will get

> chelated out with the DMPS I am using. I don't know how to tell if

> lead is a significant factor. If I am using DMPS only, and then

> DMPS/ALA, I don't know if lead would start moving.

I recently found the post below on onibasu. Andy states here

that DMPS does move lead, just not as efficiently as DMSA:

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/99022.html

> > Possibly worth thinking about supp'ing boron, but Andy doesn't

> > say this. If your bones are thin, might be worthwhile.

> >

>

>

> I wasn't sure about that at first. I think I'll take the sample for

> the next test and then supplement some. My bones are ok (bone density

> much higher than average for my height and weight).

There's a strong genetic component to this I think. My bones are

terrible, like my Dad. My mother, at age 75, has much better bone

density than I do.

Boron doesn't seem to be understood well. It does seem to be

connected to bone growth. Sounds like your bones don't need

any help, though. That's great!

> On the 's group that I follow there was a case of a woman who

> was taking large amounts of Cortef and wasn't absorbing it well

> (tested to find that there wasn't enough getting in her blood but lots

> in urine). Her doctors found that she was deficient in one element -

> I can't remember what it was - they supplemented that and she was able

> to cut the cortef to a reasonable dose. Thanks for reminding me -

> I'll sort through archives and see if I can find her post.

That's interesting. If you find that post, I'd really like to

know what she was low in. I wonder if being low in whatever it

is makes a person dump their own cortisol in urine, too. Hm.

> Thanks .

>

> J

You're welcome!

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[Guest guest]

> I wonder if that makes the arsenic a problem, but I guess it will get

> chelated out with the DMPS I am using. I don't know how to tell if

> lead is a significant factor. If I am using DMPS only, and then

> DMPS/ALA, I don't know if lead would start moving.

I recently found the post below on onibasu. Andy states here

that DMPS does move lead, just not as efficiently as DMSA:

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/99022.html

> > Possibly worth thinking about supp'ing boron, but Andy doesn't

> > say this. If your bones are thin, might be worthwhile.

> >

>

>

> I wasn't sure about that at first. I think I'll take the sample for

> the next test and then supplement some. My bones are ok (bone density

> much higher than average for my height and weight).

There's a strong genetic component to this I think. My bones are

terrible, like my Dad. My mother, at age 75, has much better bone

density than I do.

Boron doesn't seem to be understood well. It does seem to be

connected to bone growth. Sounds like your bones don't need

any help, though. That's great!

> On the 's group that I follow there was a case of a woman who

> was taking large amounts of Cortef and wasn't absorbing it well

> (tested to find that there wasn't enough getting in her blood but lots

> in urine). Her doctors found that she was deficient in one element -

> I can't remember what it was - they supplemented that and she was able

> to cut the cortef to a reasonable dose. Thanks for reminding me -

> I'll sort through archives and see if I can find her post.

That's interesting. If you find that post, I'd really like to

know what she was low in. I wonder if being low in whatever it

is makes a person dump their own cortisol in urine, too. Hm.

> Thanks .

>

> J

You're welcome!

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> I recently found the post below on onibasu. Andy states here

> that DMPS does move lead, just not as efficiently as DMSA:

>

> http://onibasu.com/archives/am/99022.html

>

Oh good, I am very happy to stick with DMPS and know that it will take

out whatever.

>

> That's interesting. If you find that post, I'd really like to

> know what she was low in. I wonder if being low in whatever it

> is makes a person dump their own cortisol in urine, too. Hm.

>

>

>

>

It was cobalt, and I believe it was , M.D. or someone

at Tahoma Clinic in Washington (state) she was working with.

Another person reported that PABA has helped her to 'hold' her cortef

and L-tyrosine has helped her thyroid to stabilize.

This is all a bit too much for me to figure out right now. I think

I'll get another hair test and ask Andy what he thinks.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/s_Disease/message/25575

[Guest guest]

> I recently found the post below on onibasu. Andy states here

> that DMPS does move lead, just not as efficiently as DMSA:

>

> http://onibasu.com/archives/am/99022.html

>

Oh good, I am very happy to stick with DMPS and know that it will take

out whatever.

>

> That's interesting. If you find that post, I'd really like to

> know what she was low in. I wonder if being low in whatever it

> is makes a person dump their own cortisol in urine, too. Hm.

>

>

>

>

It was cobalt, and I believe it was , M.D. or someone

at Tahoma Clinic in Washington (state) she was working with.

Another person reported that PABA has helped her to 'hold' her cortef

and L-tyrosine has helped her thyroid to stabilize.

This is all a bit too much for me to figure out right now. I think

I'll get another hair test and ask Andy what he thinks.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/s_Disease/message/25575

[Guest guest]

> I recently found the post below on onibasu. Andy states here

> that DMPS does move lead, just not as efficiently as DMSA:

>

> http://onibasu.com/archives/am/99022.html

>

Oh good, I am very happy to stick with DMPS and know that it will take

out whatever.

>

> That's interesting. If you find that post, I'd really like to

> know what she was low in. I wonder if being low in whatever it

> is makes a person dump their own cortisol in urine, too. Hm.

>

>

>

>

It was cobalt, and I believe it was , M.D. or someone

at Tahoma Clinic in Washington (state) she was working with.

Another person reported that PABA has helped her to 'hold' her cortef

and L-tyrosine has helped her thyroid to stabilize.

This is all a bit too much for me to figure out right now. I think

I'll get another hair test and ask Andy what he thinks.

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/s_Disease/message/25575

[Guest guest]

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> > I recently found the post below on onibasu. Andy states here

> > that DMPS does move lead, just not as efficiently as DMSA:

> >

> > http://onibasu.com/archives/am/99022.html

> >

>

>

>

> Oh good, I am very happy to stick with DMPS and know that it will take

> out whatever.

Yes, I thought you might want to know.

> >

> > That's interesting. If you find that post, I'd really like to

> > know what she was low in. I wonder if being low in whatever it

> > is makes a person dump their own cortisol in urine, too. Hm.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

> It was cobalt, and I believe it was , M.D. or someone

> at Tahoma Clinic in Washington (state) she was working with.

Cobalt - interesting. The only use I know of for cobalt in the

body is in the form of B12. That seems possibly relevant, but

maybe there is another reason.

Makes me wonder about the large subset of people who seem to

show up with red low cobalt on their mineral deranged hair tests.

> Another person reported that PABA has helped her to 'hold' her cortef

> and L-tyrosine has helped her thyroid to stabilize.

It's funny how we are all a bit different and need to figure

out some of these little extras we need by asking around and

experimenting. A brief web search seems to give mixed info

on PABA - some say it is a thyroid hormone antagonist and

some say it is helpful for both hypo and hyper. L-tyrosine

I know is used for production of thyroid hormones.

> This is all a bit too much for me to figure out right now. I think

> I'll get another hair test and ask Andy what he thinks.

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/s_Disease/message/25575

>

>

Thanks for posting this.

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