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> ...My hubby is on ursiodol twice a day (300mg). Since he started the

> medication he has had 3 billary system infections (one currently).

> Sometimes with terrible fever and chills. Of course the itching comes

> and goes. The doctors put him on cipro to deal with the infections.

> He can be pretty stubborn at times. He has lots of pain on his left

> side. Does this happen to anyone else? He does not want to bother his

> doctor and ask for pain medicine. ...

Jill,

The pain is probably from bile duct blockages. If they are severe then

the doctor should give him a prescription to help handle the pain. The

ursodiol dose he is on should probably be doubled or tripled to give

him the benefit of the high dose therapy (25-30mg/kg of body weight).

The higher dose of ursodiol may prevent stone and sludge formation

that may be causing the blockages. The other issue I would urge you to

address is the infections. If Cipro is not knocking out the infections

ask to switch to a different antibiotic. If another ERCP is done get a

culture of his bile to determine what bacteria are present and how

best to attack them. Constant infection are dangerous, and in addition

contribute to fatigue and blockages. I hope your husband can get

treatment that will allow him to be more active in helping you take

care of all that you need to at this time.

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> ...My hubby is on ursiodol twice a day (300mg). Since he started the

> medication he has had 3 billary system infections (one currently).

> Sometimes with terrible fever and chills. Of course the itching comes

> and goes. The doctors put him on cipro to deal with the infections.

> He can be pretty stubborn at times. He has lots of pain on his left

> side. Does this happen to anyone else? He does not want to bother his

> doctor and ask for pain medicine. ...

Jill,

The pain is probably from bile duct blockages. If they are severe then

the doctor should give him a prescription to help handle the pain. The

ursodiol dose he is on should probably be doubled or tripled to give

him the benefit of the high dose therapy (25-30mg/kg of body weight).

The higher dose of ursodiol may prevent stone and sludge formation

that may be causing the blockages. The other issue I would urge you to

address is the infections. If Cipro is not knocking out the infections

ask to switch to a different antibiotic. If another ERCP is done get a

culture of his bile to determine what bacteria are present and how

best to attack them. Constant infection are dangerous, and in addition

contribute to fatigue and blockages. I hope your husband can get

treatment that will allow him to be more active in helping you take

care of all that you need to at this time.

Tim R

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Jill, I'm not sure about the pain meds, as isn't on them regularly. I'd figure his pain could be spleen (if it's enlarged because of his liver, if IT is enlarged) or could be liver pain transferring to the other side ('s had liver pain radiate upwards, also, on occasion). What is the name of the person you're meeting with? We are doctoring at U on Minnesota, also. had a double lung tx here in February, and will be having LDLT here in probably September. Just so you know, the Tx Coordinator (Marie Cook) is very nice. I've only met the Tx Social worker (Suzanne Hollister) once, but she seemed quite nice, also. Dr. Humar, I believe, is who does the Liver Tx's, though I'm not sure if he does adult AND peds or what. I liked him quite well, also. Sorry I can't

be of more assistance with this. Mainly, I guess, I just wanted to let you know there's someone from the group close by who understands what you guys are going through, in case you need to talk when you're here. Amidlrepmn wrote: Hi Everyone,I'm kinda of a lurker and I read each post and learn a lot from all of you. Thank You!My husband was diagnosed in 2006 right after we found out I was pregnant. The doctor says it is all related and he had his

gallbladder removed in 2002.My hubby is on ursiodol twice a day (300mg). Since he started the medication he has had 3 billary system infections (one currently). Sometimes with terrible fever and chills. Of course the itching comes and goes. The doctors put him on cipro to deal with the infections. He can be pretty stubborn at times. He has lots of pain on his left side. Does this happen to anyone else? He does not want to bother his doctor and ask for pain medicine. So he may take leftover darvacet (which we told the doctor today). Now this can't be good for him. He wants to wait until his next appointment now that's not until the 20th of this month. This is when he is scheduled for a colonoscopy. He has had 3 MRI's, 3 Cat scans, 3 liver biopsy's and 1 ERCP when they placed a stent in the main billary tree.Does anyone take pain medicine on a daily basis?This condition he has is pretty tough and I

don't even have it. He takes naps and get tired easily. It's hard being pregnant and taking care of our other children and worry about him all the time. We meet with the Transplant Team Medical Director(University of Minnesota) at the end of the month.JillAmi mom to - 8 yrs old - Double Lung Tx 2/26/2006, PSCholangitis - pre-liver Tx (Aug or Sept, 2006), Central DI, Steroid Induced Diabetes, HypoT, GERD, High Blood Pressure, ADD, Anemia, Malabsorption, Slow Motility http://www.caringbridge.com/visit/seanfox mom to Emma - 12 yrs old - Migraines, otherwise good & healthy (thankfully) stepmom to - 13 yrs old - ADD, RAD ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Generosity begins with our recognition of our debt to others. -Master Hsing Yun, Fulfillment of desire is an illusion; desire leads to more desire, not

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> My hubby is on ursiodol twice a day (300mg). Since he started the

> medication he has had 3 billary system infections (one currently).

> Sometimes with terrible fever and chills. Of course the itching

comes

> and goes. The doctors put him on cipro to deal with the infections.

[..]

Just a question here. I thought that Cipro and URSO are contra-

indicated. Does your husband stop URSO when taking Cipro? For myself,

I was on a drug related to Cipro and had to wait a week after coming

off of it before starting URSO again.

BTW I'm one of those for whom the URSO does a great job. In particular

my GGT is now 1/8 of what it was when I started and, in general, all

my LFT's are now within the normal range. This means that my wife now

gets to live with a 'pink' husband, rather than a grey and yellow one

of the past 10 years or so.

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> My hubby is on ursiodol twice a day (300mg). Since he started the

> medication he has had 3 billary system infections (one currently).

> Sometimes with terrible fever and chills. Of course the itching

comes

> and goes. The doctors put him on cipro to deal with the infections.

[..]

Just a question here. I thought that Cipro and URSO are contra-

indicated. Does your husband stop URSO when taking Cipro? For myself,

I was on a drug related to Cipro and had to wait a week after coming

off of it before starting URSO again.

BTW I'm one of those for whom the URSO does a great job. In particular

my GGT is now 1/8 of what it was when I started and, in general, all

my LFT's are now within the normal range. This means that my wife now

gets to live with a 'pink' husband, rather than a grey and yellow one

of the past 10 years or so.

.

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Dear ,My son is on 2,000mg of Urso a day and since his colectomy he is also on cipro 1,000mg a day for pouchitis.If there is any contraindication, nobody ever cautioned us about it. Did your Dr. or pharmacist caution you? If so I would like to know why.LeeJust a question here. I thought that Cipro and URSO are contra-indicated. Does your husband stop URSO when taking Cipro? For myself, I was on a drug related to Cipro and had to wait a week after coming off of it before starting URSO again.. 

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Dear ,My son is on 2,000mg of Urso a day and since his colectomy he is also on cipro 1,000mg a day for pouchitis.If there is any contraindication, nobody ever cautioned us about it. Did your Dr. or pharmacist caution you? If so I would like to know why.LeeJust a question here. I thought that Cipro and URSO are contra-indicated. Does your husband stop URSO when taking Cipro? For myself, I was on a drug related to Cipro and had to wait a week after coming off of it before starting URSO again.. 

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> ... I thought that Cipro and URSO are contra-

> indicated. Does your husband stop URSO when taking Cipro? For

myself,

> I was on a drug related to Cipro and had to wait a week after coming

> off of it before starting URSO again.

I too have been on both Cipro and ursodiol simultaneously. The only

drug interaction with ursodiol that I know of is cholestyramine

(Questran), which binds to ursodiol and must be taken several hours

(not days) before or after ursodiol. While cholestyramine has

interactions with many other drugs, ursodiol does not have any listed

interactions as reported in MedlinePlus's U.S. Pharmacopeia Drug

Information at:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202587.html

Tim R

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> ... I thought that Cipro and URSO are contra-

> indicated. Does your husband stop URSO when taking Cipro? For

myself,

> I was on a drug related to Cipro and had to wait a week after coming

> off of it before starting URSO again.

I too have been on both Cipro and ursodiol simultaneously. The only

drug interaction with ursodiol that I know of is cholestyramine

(Questran), which binds to ursodiol and must be taken several hours

(not days) before or after ursodiol. While cholestyramine has

interactions with many other drugs, ursodiol does not have any listed

interactions as reported in MedlinePlus's U.S. Pharmacopeia Drug

Information at:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202587.html

Tim R

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> ... I thought that Cipro and URSO are contra-

> indicated. Does your husband stop URSO when taking Cipro? For

myself,

> I was on a drug related to Cipro and had to wait a week after coming

> off of it before starting URSO again.

I too have been on both Cipro and ursodiol simultaneously. The only

drug interaction with ursodiol that I know of is cholestyramine

(Questran), which binds to ursodiol and must be taken several hours

(not days) before or after ursodiol. While cholestyramine has

interactions with many other drugs, ursodiol does not have any listed

interactions as reported in MedlinePlus's U.S. Pharmacopeia Drug

Information at:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202587.html

Tim R

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