Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 exactly. nirvana summed it up well. also, the ONLY thing that kept me in school was my very strict and structured mother. i had to put myself on a schedule, and when i learned about behavior mod and all of that, i was my very first practice. i still have to lead a very structured life. no wonder and I understand one another so well. sigh. but i know exactly what you mean. my dr says that's a chief complaint about taking the lithium and becoming " normal " persoanlly I think normal sucks. > I was dx'd after I had my baby, too. > > My pre-dx history sounds a lot like yours -- from 18-26 years old I lived at > 21 different addresses. My friends kept track. :-P > > Dropped out of 4 college programs. Enrolled in, but did not attend, 3 > others. (enrolled during obvious manic phases) > > I know what you mean about lithium taking away your creativity. I mourned > that loss for a long time. Sometimes it seems a high price to pay to be > 'normal', doesn't it? > > I've been on it for 6 years now, and I've found that some of the verve has > come back, but nothing like before. I used to be what I thought of as > vibrant. That's definitely gone. LOL. > > Your subject line caught my attention, because if you listen to 'Lithium' by > Nirvana -- it's a pretty good portrait of BP, isn't it? > > Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 exactly. nirvana summed it up well. also, the ONLY thing that kept me in school was my very strict and structured mother. i had to put myself on a schedule, and when i learned about behavior mod and all of that, i was my very first practice. i still have to lead a very structured life. no wonder and I understand one another so well. sigh. but i know exactly what you mean. my dr says that's a chief complaint about taking the lithium and becoming " normal " persoanlly I think normal sucks. > I was dx'd after I had my baby, too. > > My pre-dx history sounds a lot like yours -- from 18-26 years old I lived at > 21 different addresses. My friends kept track. :-P > > Dropped out of 4 college programs. Enrolled in, but did not attend, 3 > others. (enrolled during obvious manic phases) > > I know what you mean about lithium taking away your creativity. I mourned > that loss for a long time. Sometimes it seems a high price to pay to be > 'normal', doesn't it? > > I've been on it for 6 years now, and I've found that some of the verve has > come back, but nothing like before. I used to be what I thought of as > vibrant. That's definitely gone. LOL. > > Your subject line caught my attention, because if you listen to 'Lithium' by > Nirvana -- it's a pretty good portrait of BP, isn't it? > > Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 exactly. nirvana summed it up well. also, the ONLY thing that kept me in school was my very strict and structured mother. i had to put myself on a schedule, and when i learned about behavior mod and all of that, i was my very first practice. i still have to lead a very structured life. no wonder and I understand one another so well. sigh. but i know exactly what you mean. my dr says that's a chief complaint about taking the lithium and becoming " normal " persoanlly I think normal sucks. > I was dx'd after I had my baby, too. > > My pre-dx history sounds a lot like yours -- from 18-26 years old I lived at > 21 different addresses. My friends kept track. :-P > > Dropped out of 4 college programs. Enrolled in, but did not attend, 3 > others. (enrolled during obvious manic phases) > > I know what you mean about lithium taking away your creativity. I mourned > that loss for a long time. Sometimes it seems a high price to pay to be > 'normal', doesn't it? > > I've been on it for 6 years now, and I've found that some of the verve has > come back, but nothing like before. I used to be what I thought of as > vibrant. That's definitely gone. LOL. > > Your subject line caught my attention, because if you listen to 'Lithium' by > Nirvana -- it's a pretty good portrait of BP, isn't it? > > Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 i'm right with you girl, really i am. i don't think you're very " aspie " either, i think it's just a matter of structure. we have to have it. i can't spell worth a shit (as you well know) lol. i know about throwing and breaking things, believe me i do. sigh > > >my dr says that's a > > chief complaint about taking the lithium and becoming " normal " > > persoanlly I think normal sucks. > > > > > Me, too. :-( For just that reason I've considered going off the lithium > at different times...but then I realize that just before I went ON the > lithium I threw a coffee table through a patio door, and if I were to go off > the lithium now I'd have no self control whatsoever and someone would > probably get really hurt. :-( And then I'd run rampant through my life and > destroy the whole thing, and nobody would love me and my kid would probably > end up with my ILs. No WAY. > > And then there's the weight issue, too. I am one of those lucky ones who > lithium made really fat. But I just keep tellin myself, " I'd rather be fat > and happy than thin and insane. " Mostly I believe it. > > Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 I was even hospitalized back in may for a severe manic response to respiradol. I thought someone was trying to kill me. Long story, but really funny now (you have to laugh about these things). Now, aren't you glad I'm in the classroom teaching your young? But, you know? I understand, kids and parents, I really do. When I'm having off days, I call in sick. My shrink says I'm one of the most responsible manics he's ever seen. Before I went to the looney bin, I had my mom come get my kids, then I lost it, and then I went in, got my meds straighted out, and became a member of society again. Someday I'll have to write a post about being locked up in the looney bin, it'a another funny story (you have to laugh). It's hard living with a disability, but you can do it. It's alot of work, but you can do it. I've put on more weight since I've started my meds for a total weight gain of 100 pounds in 5 years. I was normal weight when I got pregnant with . Now, I'm a friggin cow. And since we can only eat brown food in this house, it makes it kinda hard. Oh well, sorry for talking so long CKris (the C is a reminder to spell Jacquie's name right) > > > > >my dr says that's a > > > chief complaint about taking the lithium and becoming " normal " > > > persoanlly I think normal sucks. > > > > > > > > > Me, too. :-( For just that reason I've considered going off the > lithium > > at different times...but then I realize that just before I went ON > the > > lithium I threw a coffee table through a patio door, and if I were > to go off > > the lithium now I'd have no self control whatsoever and someone > would > > probably get really hurt. :-( And then I'd run rampant through my > life and > > destroy the whole thing, and nobody would love me and my kid would > probably > > end up with my ILs. No WAY. > > > > And then there's the weight issue, too. I am one of those lucky > ones who > > lithium made really fat. But I just keep tellin myself, " I'd > rather be fat > > and happy than thin and insane. " Mostly I believe it. > > > > Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 I was even hospitalized back in may for a severe manic response to respiradol. I thought someone was trying to kill me. Long story, but really funny now (you have to laugh about these things). Now, aren't you glad I'm in the classroom teaching your young? But, you know? I understand, kids and parents, I really do. When I'm having off days, I call in sick. My shrink says I'm one of the most responsible manics he's ever seen. Before I went to the looney bin, I had my mom come get my kids, then I lost it, and then I went in, got my meds straighted out, and became a member of society again. Someday I'll have to write a post about being locked up in the looney bin, it'a another funny story (you have to laugh). It's hard living with a disability, but you can do it. It's alot of work, but you can do it. I've put on more weight since I've started my meds for a total weight gain of 100 pounds in 5 years. I was normal weight when I got pregnant with . Now, I'm a friggin cow. And since we can only eat brown food in this house, it makes it kinda hard. Oh well, sorry for talking so long CKris (the C is a reminder to spell Jacquie's name right) > > > > >my dr says that's a > > > chief complaint about taking the lithium and becoming " normal " > > > persoanlly I think normal sucks. > > > > > > > > > Me, too. :-( For just that reason I've considered going off the > lithium > > at different times...but then I realize that just before I went ON > the > > lithium I threw a coffee table through a patio door, and if I were > to go off > > the lithium now I'd have no self control whatsoever and someone > would > > probably get really hurt. :-( And then I'd run rampant through my > life and > > destroy the whole thing, and nobody would love me and my kid would > probably > > end up with my ILs. No WAY. > > > > And then there's the weight issue, too. I am one of those lucky > ones who > > lithium made really fat. But I just keep tellin myself, " I'd > rather be fat > > and happy than thin and insane. " Mostly I believe it. > > > > Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 That is so amazing Jacquie, it really is. Makes me wonder about me. I'm very much a " everything has to be the same " type of person, but I'm also the class clown. Mrs. Personality.........or is it the waitress face? I get very bent out of shape when things are unorganized, I've just " learned " not to show what I really feel inside. Hum....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 That is so amazing Jacquie, it really is. Makes me wonder about me. I'm very much a " everything has to be the same " type of person, but I'm also the class clown. Mrs. Personality.........or is it the waitress face? I get very bent out of shape when things are unorganized, I've just " learned " not to show what I really feel inside. Hum....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 That is so amazing Jacquie, it really is. Makes me wonder about me. I'm very much a " everything has to be the same " type of person, but I'm also the class clown. Mrs. Personality.........or is it the waitress face? I get very bent out of shape when things are unorganized, I've just " learned " not to show what I really feel inside. Hum....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 sometimes i have to put on waitress face to survive.......sometimes, i'm ok, and mrs. personality. alot of times i put on waitress face and then come home and be a total bitch to jim and go to bed because i'm too tired to deal.... lately i've been in a pretty good mood. shew, please, if i start to get boring, hit me i was good in school, but i beat up my mother. i hated her. she was a good mom, but i trashed my house and hated her. i read at 2 and was " gifted " but very angry.........(i love my mom now) > > > > That is so amazing Jacquie, it really is. Makes me wonder about me. > > I'm very much a " everything has to be the same " type of person, but > > I'm also the class clown. Mrs. Personality.........or is it the > > waitress face? > > Well, waitress face is something you conciously put on. I don't think > that's the case with you! > > And you'd really have to look back into your childhood to know the answer. > As an infant, I cried constantly and would not sleep. My mom had to > medicate me to sleep for two years. I was hyperlexic. I talked early and > precociously, using multi-syllabic words at two years old -- " the little > professor " Aspergers describes. I had no concept of danger and I was a > climber. My social 'coup' in kindergarten was to grab another girl by the > hair and tell her, " I'm Jacquie, and you are going to be my friend. " > Because of my extreme intelligence, they tried to skip me up a grade -- and > I kicked the new students and bit the new teacher in the leg. My mom says > the teacher described me as 'possessed'. They put me back in my classroom, > and I was fine. > > Just a taste, > Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 sometimes i have to put on waitress face to survive.......sometimes, i'm ok, and mrs. personality. alot of times i put on waitress face and then come home and be a total bitch to jim and go to bed because i'm too tired to deal.... lately i've been in a pretty good mood. shew, please, if i start to get boring, hit me i was good in school, but i beat up my mother. i hated her. she was a good mom, but i trashed my house and hated her. i read at 2 and was " gifted " but very angry.........(i love my mom now) > > > > That is so amazing Jacquie, it really is. Makes me wonder about me. > > I'm very much a " everything has to be the same " type of person, but > > I'm also the class clown. Mrs. Personality.........or is it the > > waitress face? > > Well, waitress face is something you conciously put on. I don't think > that's the case with you! > > And you'd really have to look back into your childhood to know the answer. > As an infant, I cried constantly and would not sleep. My mom had to > medicate me to sleep for two years. I was hyperlexic. I talked early and > precociously, using multi-syllabic words at two years old -- " the little > professor " Aspergers describes. I had no concept of danger and I was a > climber. My social 'coup' in kindergarten was to grab another girl by the > hair and tell her, " I'm Jacquie, and you are going to be my friend. " > Because of my extreme intelligence, they tried to skip me up a grade -- and > I kicked the new students and bit the new teacher in the leg. My mom says > the teacher described me as 'possessed'. They put me back in my classroom, > and I was fine. > > Just a taste, > Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 sometimes i have to put on waitress face to survive.......sometimes, i'm ok, and mrs. personality. alot of times i put on waitress face and then come home and be a total bitch to jim and go to bed because i'm too tired to deal.... lately i've been in a pretty good mood. shew, please, if i start to get boring, hit me i was good in school, but i beat up my mother. i hated her. she was a good mom, but i trashed my house and hated her. i read at 2 and was " gifted " but very angry.........(i love my mom now) > > > > That is so amazing Jacquie, it really is. Makes me wonder about me. > > I'm very much a " everything has to be the same " type of person, but > > I'm also the class clown. Mrs. Personality.........or is it the > > waitress face? > > Well, waitress face is something you conciously put on. I don't think > that's the case with you! > > And you'd really have to look back into your childhood to know the answer. > As an infant, I cried constantly and would not sleep. My mom had to > medicate me to sleep for two years. I was hyperlexic. I talked early and > precociously, using multi-syllabic words at two years old -- " the little > professor " Aspergers describes. I had no concept of danger and I was a > climber. My social 'coup' in kindergarten was to grab another girl by the > hair and tell her, " I'm Jacquie, and you are going to be my friend. " > Because of my extreme intelligence, they tried to skip me up a grade -- and > I kicked the new students and bit the new teacher in the leg. My mom says > the teacher described me as 'possessed'. They put me back in my classroom, > and I was fine. > > Just a taste, > Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 Seriously. I respect you both immensely, Jacquie & Kris, for taking the lithium. I don't know very much about BP except what little I've heard about it and Sally Field on ER, but the common thread seems to be that people who have to take it don't like taking it. Weight issues to boot must really make it a PITA. It's a sacrifice you make for other people, especially your children. I admire you! ~ Karin I think you both are still very witty, creative, and intelligent. It may not be the highest level of creativity you are capable of, but I assure you it is miles beyond my own level. Which is basicaly non-existent. But that's OK. I've accepted that I will never ever be Martha , much less Picasso. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 Seriously. I respect you both immensely, Jacquie & Kris, for taking the lithium. I don't know very much about BP except what little I've heard about it and Sally Field on ER, but the common thread seems to be that people who have to take it don't like taking it. Weight issues to boot must really make it a PITA. It's a sacrifice you make for other people, especially your children. I admire you! ~ Karin I think you both are still very witty, creative, and intelligent. It may not be the highest level of creativity you are capable of, but I assure you it is miles beyond my own level. Which is basicaly non-existent. But that's OK. I've accepted that I will never ever be Martha , much less Picasso. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 Seriously. I respect you both immensely, Jacquie & Kris, for taking the lithium. I don't know very much about BP except what little I've heard about it and Sally Field on ER, but the common thread seems to be that people who have to take it don't like taking it. Weight issues to boot must really make it a PITA. It's a sacrifice you make for other people, especially your children. I admire you! ~ Karin I think you both are still very witty, creative, and intelligent. It may not be the highest level of creativity you are capable of, but I assure you it is miles beyond my own level. Which is basicaly non-existent. But that's OK. I've accepted that I will never ever be Martha , much less Picasso. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 I am bipolar too, with an emphasis on mania..even my depressions are agitated. I don't take lithium, however--I've been taking depakote for it, which controls it well. I'm one of the lucky ones I think in that I don't have to deal with lithium. Maggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 I am bipolar too, with an emphasis on mania..even my depressions are agitated. I don't take lithium, however--I've been taking depakote for it, which controls it well. I'm one of the lucky ones I think in that I don't have to deal with lithium. Maggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 I am bipolar too, with an emphasis on mania..even my depressions are agitated. I don't take lithium, however--I've been taking depakote for it, which controls it well. I'm one of the lucky ones I think in that I don't have to deal with lithium. Maggie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2003 Report Share Posted January 19, 2003 > Don't judge me by my personality in writing -- I am very 'together' in > writing. That's always been my gift. And you DO have a gift. Truly. Sissi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 I was dx'd after I had my baby, too. My pre-dx history sounds a lot like yours -- from 18-26 years old I lived at 21 different addresses. My friends kept track. :-P Dropped out of 4 college programs. Enrolled in, but did not attend, 3 others. (enrolled during obvious manic phases) I know what you mean about lithium taking away your creativity. I mourned that loss for a long time. Sometimes it seems a high price to pay to be 'normal', doesn't it? I've been on it for 6 years now, and I've found that some of the verve has come back, but nothing like before. I used to be what I thought of as vibrant. That's definitely gone. LOL. Your subject line caught my attention, because if you listen to 'Lithium' by Nirvana -- it's a pretty good portrait of BP, isn't it? Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 I was dx'd after I had my baby, too. My pre-dx history sounds a lot like yours -- from 18-26 years old I lived at 21 different addresses. My friends kept track. :-P Dropped out of 4 college programs. Enrolled in, but did not attend, 3 others. (enrolled during obvious manic phases) I know what you mean about lithium taking away your creativity. I mourned that loss for a long time. Sometimes it seems a high price to pay to be 'normal', doesn't it? I've been on it for 6 years now, and I've found that some of the verve has come back, but nothing like before. I used to be what I thought of as vibrant. That's definitely gone. LOL. Your subject line caught my attention, because if you listen to 'Lithium' by Nirvana -- it's a pretty good portrait of BP, isn't it? Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 I was dx'd after I had my baby, too. My pre-dx history sounds a lot like yours -- from 18-26 years old I lived at 21 different addresses. My friends kept track. :-P Dropped out of 4 college programs. Enrolled in, but did not attend, 3 others. (enrolled during obvious manic phases) I know what you mean about lithium taking away your creativity. I mourned that loss for a long time. Sometimes it seems a high price to pay to be 'normal', doesn't it? I've been on it for 6 years now, and I've found that some of the verve has come back, but nothing like before. I used to be what I thought of as vibrant. That's definitely gone. LOL. Your subject line caught my attention, because if you listen to 'Lithium' by Nirvana -- it's a pretty good portrait of BP, isn't it? Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 > i'm right with you girl, really i am. i don't think you're > very " aspie " either, i think it's just a matter of structure. Oh no, I am. Trust me. My mom and I have spent a loong time talking about my childhood and my entire history. I fit the profile all the way back to toddlerhood. And seeing , she is always struck by how many of the challenges I face are the same challenges she faced with me. Don't judge me by my personality in writing -- I am very 'together' in writing. That's always been my gift. Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 > i'm right with you girl, really i am. i don't think you're > very " aspie " either, i think it's just a matter of structure. Oh no, I am. Trust me. My mom and I have spent a loong time talking about my childhood and my entire history. I fit the profile all the way back to toddlerhood. And seeing , she is always struck by how many of the challenges I face are the same challenges she faced with me. Don't judge me by my personality in writing -- I am very 'together' in writing. That's always been my gift. Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 > That is so amazing Jacquie, it really is. Makes me wonder about me. > I'm very much a " everything has to be the same " type of person, but > I'm also the class clown. Mrs. Personality.........or is it the > waitress face? Well, waitress face is something you conciously put on. I don't think that's the case with you! And you'd really have to look back into your childhood to know the answer. As an infant, I cried constantly and would not sleep. My mom had to medicate me to sleep for two years. I was hyperlexic. I talked early and precociously, using multi-syllabic words at two years old -- " the little professor " Aspergers describes. I had no concept of danger and I was a climber. My social 'coup' in kindergarten was to grab another girl by the hair and tell her, " I'm Jacquie, and you are going to be my friend. " Because of my extreme intelligence, they tried to skip me up a grade -- and I kicked the new students and bit the new teacher in the leg. My mom says the teacher described me as 'possessed'. They put me back in my classroom, and I was fine. Just a taste, Jacquie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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