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Oh I soooo understand. Cats are your children, until you actually have

kids. I went through something very similar two years ago, it was the first

cat I had ever adopted and a very painful loss. FIV and feline leukemia are

easy to test for with fairly quick results - - these should put your mind at

ease.

(((((((the hunny kitty)))))))

let us know how it turns out.

OT - I am so worried I feel sick

> Please think good thoughts for my kitty today. Marc says I'm just being

pessimistic and that I always freak out when something is wrong with Phil

and it's always for nothing. For once, I really really hope he's right.

This cat is like my own child - my FIRST child.

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I know how you feel. I had a cat from a baby.had her 14 yrs. i still miss

her.lets hope for the best!

jacquie h

OT - I am so worried I feel sick

My twelve-year-old cat, Phil, has had a runny eye for a couple days, but

nothing out of the ordinary.

This morning, I woke up and looked at him and he looked at me...and his eye

was nearly swollen shut. Why? Because he now, suddenly, has huge swelling or

mass under the eye. His face is completely deformed. The mass is firm to the

touch; it is not pus.

I've been doing web searches for more than an hour now, and this line is

repeated over and over:

" Facial swelling may indicate a more serious underlying problem such as

cancer "

Not ONLY that, but last year (as older members may remember) we briefly

babysat (for two months) two cats who were evil and mean, and when their owner

reclaimed them she dicovered they both had FIV and both had to be put down.

Phil had an FIV test at that time, but I've since learned (this morning) that

FIV, like HIV, can lie dormant in the system for up to two years before

manifesting.

Marc is on afternoons this week, and has offered to be the one to take him to

the vet in half an hour. I can't do it. I'm too afraid. This cat has been

with me for 11 years. I've had him since getting him from a shelter when he was

a year old. He's lived in no less than 8 different homes with me. He used to

sit in all the windows and wait for me to come home, and then meet me at the

door. Of course, he's too old for that now. When Marc is on midnights, Phil

braves the dog and sleeps on Marc's pillow beside me, or under the covers with

me.

He's letharic and dopey. The mass isn't giving him any pain, but according to

all the websites, it won't. He looks so unhappy.

And if he DOES have FIV, has he given it to Zot? Then again, I don't really

care about Zot today -- I'm too worried about Phil.

Please think good thoughts for my kitty today. Marc says I'm just being

pessimistic and that I always freak out when something is wrong with Phil and

it's always for nothing. For once, I really really hope he's right. This cat

is like my own child - my FIRST child.

<sigh>

Jacquie

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I know how you feel. I had a cat from a baby.had her 14 yrs. i still miss

her.lets hope for the best!

jacquie h

OT - I am so worried I feel sick

My twelve-year-old cat, Phil, has had a runny eye for a couple days, but

nothing out of the ordinary.

This morning, I woke up and looked at him and he looked at me...and his eye

was nearly swollen shut. Why? Because he now, suddenly, has huge swelling or

mass under the eye. His face is completely deformed. The mass is firm to the

touch; it is not pus.

I've been doing web searches for more than an hour now, and this line is

repeated over and over:

" Facial swelling may indicate a more serious underlying problem such as

cancer "

Not ONLY that, but last year (as older members may remember) we briefly

babysat (for two months) two cats who were evil and mean, and when their owner

reclaimed them she dicovered they both had FIV and both had to be put down.

Phil had an FIV test at that time, but I've since learned (this morning) that

FIV, like HIV, can lie dormant in the system for up to two years before

manifesting.

Marc is on afternoons this week, and has offered to be the one to take him to

the vet in half an hour. I can't do it. I'm too afraid. This cat has been

with me for 11 years. I've had him since getting him from a shelter when he was

a year old. He's lived in no less than 8 different homes with me. He used to

sit in all the windows and wait for me to come home, and then meet me at the

door. Of course, he's too old for that now. When Marc is on midnights, Phil

braves the dog and sleeps on Marc's pillow beside me, or under the covers with

me.

He's letharic and dopey. The mass isn't giving him any pain, but according to

all the websites, it won't. He looks so unhappy.

And if he DOES have FIV, has he given it to Zot? Then again, I don't really

care about Zot today -- I'm too worried about Phil.

Please think good thoughts for my kitty today. Marc says I'm just being

pessimistic and that I always freak out when something is wrong with Phil and

it's always for nothing. For once, I really really hope he's right. This cat

is like my own child - my FIRST child.

<sigh>

Jacquie

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I know how you feel. I had a cat from a baby.had her 14 yrs. i still miss

her.lets hope for the best!

jacquie h

OT - I am so worried I feel sick

My twelve-year-old cat, Phil, has had a runny eye for a couple days, but

nothing out of the ordinary.

This morning, I woke up and looked at him and he looked at me...and his eye

was nearly swollen shut. Why? Because he now, suddenly, has huge swelling or

mass under the eye. His face is completely deformed. The mass is firm to the

touch; it is not pus.

I've been doing web searches for more than an hour now, and this line is

repeated over and over:

" Facial swelling may indicate a more serious underlying problem such as

cancer "

Not ONLY that, but last year (as older members may remember) we briefly

babysat (for two months) two cats who were evil and mean, and when their owner

reclaimed them she dicovered they both had FIV and both had to be put down.

Phil had an FIV test at that time, but I've since learned (this morning) that

FIV, like HIV, can lie dormant in the system for up to two years before

manifesting.

Marc is on afternoons this week, and has offered to be the one to take him to

the vet in half an hour. I can't do it. I'm too afraid. This cat has been

with me for 11 years. I've had him since getting him from a shelter when he was

a year old. He's lived in no less than 8 different homes with me. He used to

sit in all the windows and wait for me to come home, and then meet me at the

door. Of course, he's too old for that now. When Marc is on midnights, Phil

braves the dog and sleeps on Marc's pillow beside me, or under the covers with

me.

He's letharic and dopey. The mass isn't giving him any pain, but according to

all the websites, it won't. He looks so unhappy.

And if he DOES have FIV, has he given it to Zot? Then again, I don't really

care about Zot today -- I'm too worried about Phil.

Please think good thoughts for my kitty today. Marc says I'm just being

pessimistic and that I always freak out when something is wrong with Phil and

it's always for nothing. For once, I really really hope he's right. This cat

is like my own child - my FIRST child.

<sigh>

Jacquie

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In a message dated 1/13/03 2:30:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, vhunnius@...

writes:

> He will NOT let me brush his teeth withone of those

> over-the-finger deals. I don't know what else to do!

>

>

Maybe he wants a crest spinbrush?

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In a message dated 1/13/03 2:30:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, vhunnius@...

writes:

> He will NOT let me brush his teeth withone of those

> over-the-finger deals. I don't know what else to do!

>

>

Maybe he wants a crest spinbrush?

:)

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Glad to hear Phil is doing better. I have an 11 yo old cat who has been with

me since I got my own place and I would b e devastated if something happened to

him. Hope the meds help Phil to feel better soon! CHRIS

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> PLEASE let me know what you find out.

> From my days working in a vet office this doesn't sound real good.

> I wish you and your kitty all the best.

Thanks, Georga!

Marc was right! (whew)

It's inflammation from an absessed tooth. We've got antibiotics for it.

Phil has HORRIBLE dental hygeniene. He will NOT eat proper cat food, he'll

only eat crap cat food. He will NOT let me brush his teeth withone of those

over-the-finger deals. I don't know what else to do!

The vet said he should have the tooth removed, but we just paid $350 to have

one removed this time last year. :-(

Relieved,

Jacquie

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Glad to hear Phil is doing better. I have an 11 yo old cat who has been with

me since I got my own place and I would b e devastated if something happened to

him. Hope the meds help Phil to feel better soon! CHRIS

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> PLEASE let me know what you find out.

> From my days working in a vet office this doesn't sound real good.

> I wish you and your kitty all the best.

Thanks, Georga!

Marc was right! (whew)

It's inflammation from an absessed tooth. We've got antibiotics for it.

Phil has HORRIBLE dental hygeniene. He will NOT eat proper cat food, he'll

only eat crap cat food. He will NOT let me brush his teeth withone of those

over-the-finger deals. I don't know what else to do!

The vet said he should have the tooth removed, but we just paid $350 to have

one removed this time last year. :-(

Relieved,

Jacquie

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Jacquie,

I'm SO glad you were wrong and that Marc was right. I lost one cat to

feline AIDS, and we lost another to FIV. Not nice. I hurt so much when we

had to put the one with AIDS down. I'd had him so long, and what an angel

he was. He used to go for walks with my dad and his dog, protecting the

dog. It was really sweet.

Anyway, sorry it's going to cost lots of money, but glad it's nothing more

serious!

ellen

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Jacquie,

I'm SO glad you were wrong and that Marc was right. I lost one cat to

feline AIDS, and we lost another to FIV. Not nice. I hurt so much when we

had to put the one with AIDS down. I'd had him so long, and what an angel

he was. He used to go for walks with my dad and his dog, protecting the

dog. It was really sweet.

Anyway, sorry it's going to cost lots of money, but glad it's nothing more

serious!

ellen

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I hate to bore everyone with talk of kitty nutrition BUT what are you feeding

him? What does he like to eat?

You are going to have to get the tooth removed or you are risking this happening

again. And Phil is getting old in cat years, a serious infection could kill

him.

Georga Hackworth

www.ubah.com/F1549 Enter to win $50 in FREE books!

Re: OT - I am so worried I feel sick

> PLEASE let me know what you find out.

> From my days working in a vet office this doesn't sound real good.

> I wish you and your kitty all the best.

Thanks, Georga!

Marc was right! (whew)

It's inflammation from an absessed tooth. We've got antibiotics for it.

Phil has HORRIBLE dental hygeniene. He will NOT eat proper cat food, he'll

only eat crap cat food. He will NOT let me brush his teeth withone of those

over-the-finger deals. I don't know what else to do!

The vet said he should have the tooth removed, but we just paid $350 to have

one removed this time last year. :-(

Relieved,

Jacquie

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I hate to bore everyone with talk of kitty nutrition BUT what are you feeding

him? What does he like to eat?

You are going to have to get the tooth removed or you are risking this happening

again. And Phil is getting old in cat years, a serious infection could kill

him.

Georga Hackworth

www.ubah.com/F1549 Enter to win $50 in FREE books!

Re: OT - I am so worried I feel sick

> PLEASE let me know what you find out.

> From my days working in a vet office this doesn't sound real good.

> I wish you and your kitty all the best.

Thanks, Georga!

Marc was right! (whew)

It's inflammation from an absessed tooth. We've got antibiotics for it.

Phil has HORRIBLE dental hygeniene. He will NOT eat proper cat food, he'll

only eat crap cat food. He will NOT let me brush his teeth withone of those

over-the-finger deals. I don't know what else to do!

The vet said he should have the tooth removed, but we just paid $350 to have

one removed this time last year. :-(

Relieved,

Jacquie

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I hate to bore everyone with talk of kitty nutrition BUT what are you feeding

him? What does he like to eat?

You are going to have to get the tooth removed or you are risking this happening

again. And Phil is getting old in cat years, a serious infection could kill

him.

Georga Hackworth

www.ubah.com/F1549 Enter to win $50 in FREE books!

Re: OT - I am so worried I feel sick

> PLEASE let me know what you find out.

> From my days working in a vet office this doesn't sound real good.

> I wish you and your kitty all the best.

Thanks, Georga!

Marc was right! (whew)

It's inflammation from an absessed tooth. We've got antibiotics for it.

Phil has HORRIBLE dental hygeniene. He will NOT eat proper cat food, he'll

only eat crap cat food. He will NOT let me brush his teeth withone of those

over-the-finger deals. I don't know what else to do!

The vet said he should have the tooth removed, but we just paid $350 to have

one removed this time last year. :-(

Relieved,

Jacquie

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I have said for some time that cats are autistic.

No, it isn't good for him.

Here is what you do.

Go get some Nutro-Max cat food. (Its one of the better cat foods on the market,

will have to go to a pet supply place to get it). Slowly start mixing it in

with his normal crap and slowly wean him off the stuff he is eating, or get him

to where he will eat both.

That is my best advice.

Georga Hackworth

www.ubah.com/F1549 Enter to win $50 in FREE books!

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> I hate to bore everyone with talk of kitty nutrition BUT what are you

feeding him? What does he like to eat?

He eats the crappiest of the crap. ANY generic store brand will do. We've

wasted hundreds of dollars over the years with vet-purchased food, high-end

pet shop food, all of it. He won't even deign to eat Purina Cat Chow, a

mere rung above the sawdust he DOES eat!

When he had the tooth removed last year, he ate Whiskas wet food (the kind

in the little packets) and that's what he's eating today.

I KNOW this food is bad for him. But I can't get him to eat anything

better!

In a lot of ways, my cat reminds me of my son.

Jacquie

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Hmmm....

I would say about 1:4 ratio...4 being the crap. Gradually increase it.

Remember one thing, if the cat gets hungry enough it will eat what is put out.

As stupid as cats are I have to see one that will starve itself.

Georga Hackworth

www.ubah.com/F1549 Enter to win $50 in FREE books!

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> Here is what you do.

> Go get some Nutro-Max cat food. (Its one of the better cat foods on the

market, will have to go to a pet supply place to get it). Slowly start

mixing it in with his normal crap and slowly wean him off the stuff he is

eating, or get him to where he will eat both.

>

> That is my best advice.

Thanks, Georga. I WILL try. What ratio would you start mixing the crap

with the good stuff?

Jacquie

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Hmmm....

I would say about 1:4 ratio...4 being the crap. Gradually increase it.

Remember one thing, if the cat gets hungry enough it will eat what is put out.

As stupid as cats are I have to see one that will starve itself.

Georga Hackworth

www.ubah.com/F1549 Enter to win $50 in FREE books!

Re: OT - I am so worried I feel sick

> Here is what you do.

> Go get some Nutro-Max cat food. (Its one of the better cat foods on the

market, will have to go to a pet supply place to get it). Slowly start

mixing it in with his normal crap and slowly wean him off the stuff he is

eating, or get him to where he will eat both.

>

> That is my best advice.

Thanks, Georga. I WILL try. What ratio would you start mixing the crap

with the good stuff?

Jacquie

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Hmmm....

I would say about 1:4 ratio...4 being the crap. Gradually increase it.

Remember one thing, if the cat gets hungry enough it will eat what is put out.

As stupid as cats are I have to see one that will starve itself.

Georga Hackworth

www.ubah.com/F1549 Enter to win $50 in FREE books!

Re: OT - I am so worried I feel sick

> Here is what you do.

> Go get some Nutro-Max cat food. (Its one of the better cat foods on the

market, will have to go to a pet supply place to get it). Slowly start

mixing it in with his normal crap and slowly wean him off the stuff he is

eating, or get him to where he will eat both.

>

> That is my best advice.

Thanks, Georga. I WILL try. What ratio would you start mixing the crap

with the good stuff?

Jacquie

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The funniest thing I had ever seen was the antics of this cat we used to have,

Furball. My husband brought home that meow mix stuff with the middles one time

and she tried to eat the middles out of them. She was strange.

I suggested the nutro because I think it smells like mouse or something. Even

the finiciest of cats that I have had would eat this stuff. I have had food

dishes of crap food out that was picked up on the way home from work by my

husband because the pet store was closed and had the cats claw holes in it to

get to it.

Georga Hackworth

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I would start with something absurdly small. 1/10? Maybe even just a few

pieces mixed in to see if he notices. My friend had a cat who would

actually pick out the other kibble & only eat her crappy one. It depends on

how picky he really is.

-Sara.

> Thanks, Georga. I WILL try. What ratio would you start mixing the crap

> with the good stuff?

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Poor Phil. I'm sending prayers, good thoughts and

healing vibes. And my fingers are crossed.

Hang in there hon

Tuna

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How much patience you have, for instance.

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