Guest guest Posted October 19, 1999 Report Share Posted October 19, 1999 Am very familiar with it. It is purely stopgap, lowering the PSA with estrogen like natural products that have complications. ie: loss of libido, hot & cold flashes, l0-15 % weight gain, breast soreness and enlargement, mood changes...just as in female change of life. For more: http://oncology. medscape.com/4228-rhtml or just search SPES by itself. best, JR I have a relative with advanced Prostate cancer. Its been recommended he try an herbal product called " PC SPES. " It has been extremely difficult to find it, & as we understand it, will be very expensive. Has anyone heard of or used the therapy? If so, how is it working? If you can recommend its use, where can it be purchased & how much does it cost? Thanks for your help. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 1999 Report Share Posted October 20, 1999 Thhere is SPES and PC SPEC. We use SPES. It is expensive. We paid $80.45 for just 30 tablets. It is an herbal formula supposed to build the immune system. We go to an alternative clinic Schachter Clinic in NY State. It was recommended as part of the protocol. Seems all of the products are very expensive and not covered by insurance. But we're looking at it as " we probably won't be doing this forever. " Just until the immune system is built up (as chemo and radiation did damage). My husband has pancreatic cancer (removed) But now has surfaced in liver. Blood clots were the signal. Tumors Are still small, but w'e're hoping to dissolve them with alternative methods when immune system is built up. Prostate cancer is less aggressive and much more curable. There are many products that will enhance the immune system + other less expensive products for fighting your type of cancer. Check out website http://.best.com/~Cancell/nathan.htm There is a testimonial from a man who had prostate cancer and took Cantron aka, Cancell and has been well since 1994. The 800 # for obtaining Cantron is 800-443-3030. Bromelain should be taken with it + drink a gallon of water per day .... that's 6 - 8 glasses. Cost of Cantron is $170 for six-month supply. Dont' let them sell you the entire package for $900. They don't make a lot of $$ on this so they have to make money other ways. It's sold strictly as a diet supplement or they'll get shut down by the FDA. I'm not recommending it, just passing on info. My husband had chemo and it's not known if Cantron can still be effective after chemo. + he ended up in the hospital for most of Sept on IV's, which I was pretty certain was washing the Cantron out of his system. You can't take herbs like Essiac Tea or other herbs or it counteracts the ffects of Cantron, Some people claim they've had good results after Chemo and radiation. There is a network of people who were cured and promote the qualitie of Cantron with meetings throughout the U.S. Just another avenue you might explore. The world of alternatives is so confusing and EXPENSIVE, but we found mainstream has a very low success rate It's not confusing.....it's very predictable and scary. Good luck ..... my prayers are with you. Carol B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 1999 Report Share Posted October 20, 1999 Yes, alternative therapy CAN get pricey. That's because it's not covered by insurance (although I've heard that some plans are starting to cover SOME alternative therapies) However, if you were to compare it to the actual costs of chemo or radiation or surgery, the cost is minimal. Chemo drugs can cost thousands if not tens of thousands of dollars. Radiation equipments costs the hospitals a fortune, so they charge a small fortune to recoup the cost and profit. So the insurance companies gets most of the bills, who in turn pass it along to the public. So they ALL make money. When it comes to cancer, conventional therapy totally neglects to treat the patient...it's goal is to kill off the cancer cells...even if they have to kill the patient to do it. ---------- >From: CBilz@... >cures for canceregroups >Subject: Re: PC SPES >Date: Wed, Oct 20, 1999, 4:39 PM > > Thhere is SPES and PC SPEC. We use SPES. It is expensive. We paid $80.45 > for just 30 tablets. It is an herbal formula supposed to build the immune > system. We go to an alternative clinic Schachter Clinic in NY State. It > was recommended as part of the protocol. Seems all of the products are very > expensive and not covered by insurance. But we're looking at it as " we > probably won't be doing this forever. " Just until the immune system is built > up (as chemo and radiation did damage). > > My husband has pancreatic cancer (removed) But now has surfaced in liver. > Blood clots were the signal. Tumors Are still small, but w'e're hoping to > dissolve them with alternative methods when immune system is built up. > > Prostate cancer is less aggressive and much more curable. There are many > products that will enhance the immune system + other less expensive products > for fighting your type of cancer. Check out website > http://.best.com/~Cancell/nathan.htm > There is a testimonial from a man who had prostate cancer and took Cantron > aka, Cancell and has been well since 1994. The 800 # for obtaining > Cantron is 800-443-3030. Bromelain should be taken with it + drink a gallon > of water per day .... that's 6 - 8 glasses. Cost of Cantron is $170 for > six-month supply. Dont' let them sell you the entire package for $900. > They don't make a lot of $$ on this so they have to make money other ways. > It's sold strictly as a diet supplement or they'll get shut down by the FDA. > I'm not recommending it, just passing on info. > > My husband had chemo and it's not known if Cantron can still be effective > after chemo. + he ended up in the hospital for most of Sept on IV's, which > I was pretty certain was washing the Cantron out of his system. You can't > take herbs like Essiac Tea or other herbs or it counteracts the ffects of > Cantron, Some people claim they've had good results after Chemo and > radiation. There is a network of people who were cured and promote the > qualitie of Cantron with meetings throughout the U.S. Just another avenue > you might explore. The world of alternatives is so confusing and EXPENSIVE, > but we found mainstream has a very low success rate It's not > confusing.....it's very predictable and scary. > > Good luck ..... my prayers are with you. > Carol B > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 1999 Report Share Posted October 26, 1999 In a message dated 10/25/99 2:24:06 PM EST, Radwick@... writes: << I have taken the herbal >combination know as PC Spes. Others are having positive results from this >same family of herbs made by BotanicLab. >> Thanks for sending some very encouraging information. I have a relative who is at about the same stage as you were in 1997 & is extremely interested in what you had to say. Will you tell me where you purchased PC SPES & how much it costs? I suspect it isn't cheap. Also, is a doctor's prescription necessary for the purchase? Thanks for your help, & continued good fortune as you fight your battle with Cancer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 1999 Report Share Posted October 26, 1999 Does anyone know the difference between Spes and PC Spes. My husband is on Spes as one of the supplements recommended by an alternative clinic. We've paid (hold on to your hat!!) $80 for a supply of 30 capsules. Our recommended dosage is 6 per day. YES IT IS EXPENSIVE. AND NOT COVERED BY INSURANCE. Carol B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 1999 Report Share Posted October 31, 1999 HOW DO YOU GET OFF THE LIST? PC Spes > >>I was diagnosed with metastasis from prostate cancer in July of 1997. I >>had cancer growing in my pelvis, rib and shoulder. I have recovered, or >at >>least I am in complete remission with no symptoms. I have taken the >herbal >>combination know as PC Spes. Others are having positive results from >this >>same family of herbs made by BotanicLab. >> >>I can be reached by phone if you would like to talk to me at: >>714-256-0781. If you get my phone service, either leave a message or >call >>back. I will pick up. >> >> Cook >>info@... >> > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Click on Instant Credit Card Approval at >http://clickhere./click/1271 > > >Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2000 Report Share Posted February 7, 2000 I am also interested in information PC SPES. Thank you In Love & Light, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guest Posted February 8, 2000 Report Share Posted February 8, 2000 epicurean-@... wrote: original article:cures for cancer/?start=5727 > Hi there... > > just a few questions.... > > What is PC SPES? How does it work to combat cancer (specifically prostate > cancer)? Where do you obtain it? How much should be taken, when and in what > form? > > Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! , the PC-SPES web site is at http://www.pcspes.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2000 Report Share Posted February 8, 2000 See the following data for those interested and pass it around. If you want you can skip and go to www.prostate90.com Norvil http://cure.medinfo.org www.cancer.org www.cancer.org/m2m www.afud.org www.pcaw.com www.ama-assn.org www.ameripros.org wwwww.auanet.org www.pennzoil.com/arnie http://rattler.cameron.edu/seedpods www.prostatecancer.com www.urol.bcu.tmc.edu Cancer Facts - mailing list - listserv@... Cancer List - mailing list - listserv@... www.centerwatch.com Cap Cure - the website for the Association for the Cure of Cancer of the Prostate. Survivors play an essential role in recovery. Section includes: directory of clinical trials, portraits of survivors, nutritional guidelines, recipes and a good section about living with prostate cancer. Links for prostate cancer and nutrition. Capcure@... and http://www.capcure.org www.csccc.com. www.centerwatch.com/studies http://cnncom/health Cryosurgical Treatment - A page devoted to the cryosurgical treatment of prostate cancer including locations using cryosurgery. http://rattler.cameron.edu/iceballs Doctors Nationwide Directory and Specialty - http://www.ama.assn.org http://www.emory.edu/medweb www.wellweb.com/cancer/consultations www.malehealthcenter.com/columns www.healthfinder.gov www.healthgate.com/healthgate Impotence Institute of America & Impotence Anonymous - Resource for doctors familiar with the latest treatments for impotency. - 1.800.669.1603 www.icare.org/icare http://prostate.urol.jhu.edu Proton radiation therapy (http://www.llu.edu), Proton Treatment Center - http://www.llu.edu/proton Male Potency Centers of America - Locate doctors familiar with the latest treatments for impotency. - 1.800.438.7683. www.meds.com http://prostate.com www.cansearch.org/canserch www.menstuff.org/healthprostate www.4npcc.org www.cancer.com http://oncolink.upenn.edu Patient to Physician (p2p) archives http://www.rattler.cameron.edu/p2p/ Physicians Guide to the Internet - http://www.webcom.com/pgi Project to Eliminate Prostate Cancer (Pelican) - http://128.220.85.236/pelican_public_onedefault.htm www.prostascint.com http://www.wellnessweb.com/PROSTATE www.comed.com/prostate www.prostatecancer.com/ http://www.prostatitis.com www.psa-rising.com Rattler listings for prostate cancer: http://rattlr.cameron.edu/medical.html and http://rattlr.cameron.edu/medical.html and http://rattler.cameron.edu/in all become http://rattler/cameron.edu.information.html and is an index of pages currently on rattler. Rattler - A web page and mailing list for those affected by prostate cancer: the men and their families. The resources are maintained by Peress. http://rattler.cameron.edu/circle Reuters Health Information Service - daily press releases - http://www.reutershealth.com Urologic Reference Library - http://www.prostatelab.com Virgils Prostate Online - http://www.prostate_online.com Wellness Web - Who we are: patients with a passion for knowledge. Providers with the heart to care. Family and friends with the love to matter seeking a patch between wellness and care. Available treatments for prostate. - http://wellweb.com/prostate/prostate.htm and http://wellweb.com/prostate/treatmen.htm#beam Get free e-mail with a women.com membership at http://women.com CHart14843@... wrote: I am also interested in information PC SPES. Thank you In Love & Light, ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Love. Relationships? E - Commerce! 1/1145/5/_/378/_/949989034/ -- Talk to your group with your own voice! -- VoiceChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2002 Report Share Posted March 31, 2002 I find it suspicious how the FDA is going after herbal supplements yet they continue to allow the sale of so many prescriptions drugs that have seemingly been implicated in deadly reactions. Something is wrong with this picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2002 Report Share Posted April 3, 2002 wrote: >> I find it suspicious how the FDA is going after herbal supplements yet they continue to allow the sale of so many prescriptions drugs that have seemingly been implicated in deadly reactions. Something is wrong with this picture. << What's so strange? Anyone who knows how the FDA operates knows it is not an advocate for the consumer, nor a protector of the public, except in name and PR. It's function is to present a PR appearance which is palatable to the marketplace thus insuring profitable sales without panic. Protection of the food (and drug) supply to citizens of the United States is 80% propaganda, 15% industrial relations and 5% protection... (my numbers of course, your opinion and thus your mileage may vary.) Think " reduced cavities with fluoride " from studies that showed all the teeth rotted and fell out, thus there were fewer cavities. Gotta love that government... any government. Geoff soli Deo gloria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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