Re: Re: GRAPEFRUIT not Grape...OofO

[Guest guest]

I'm so glad to see this post - I asked if GSE works on yeast and nobody

answered. Still an issue right now after the fruit overload and i'm beside

myself.

Robbie

Re: GRAPEFRUIT not Grape...OofO

" I can never remember if it is Grape or Grapefruit that I need to

buy for yeast!!! "

Coral,

It is grapeFRUIT seed extract.

But keep in mind, it is NOT just an antifungal.

It is also antimicrobial (bacteria), antiviral and antiparasitical.

Taking GSE will completely irradicate pretty much all the little

critters inhabiting the GI tract INCLUDING the GOOD ones.

Be sure to take probiotics and/or give yogurt, especially after you

stop the GSE treatment so that you can replenish the GI tract with

GOOD bacteria.

Also, GSE is not a long term treatment. Since it kills practically

everything, it should not be used daily or long term.

Jody

mom to -6 and -8

SCD 23 months

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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[Guest guest]

Thank you... his stools are mushy again and light colored. Being 6 months in to

the diet, I don't know if the yeast he's dealing with is easy or hard to kill

off - would oil of oregano or GSE be better? I know I won't be able to get him

to drink carrot juice and garlic - we don't have a juicer either.

Robbie

Re: GRAPEFRUIT not Grape...OofO

Hi Robbie,

GSE does work on some yeast. Check out " Yeast and SCD " and " Carrot

juice and Garlic remedy " at

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/files/

Sheila

> I'm so glad to see this post - I asked if GSE works on yeast and

nobody answered. Still an issue right now after the fruit

overload and i'm beside myself.

>

> Robbie

>

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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[Guest guest]

Thank you... his stools are mushy again and light colored. Being 6 months in to

the diet, I don't know if the yeast he's dealing with is easy or hard to kill

off - would oil of oregano or GSE be better? I know I won't be able to get him

to drink carrot juice and garlic - we don't have a juicer either.

Robbie

Re: GRAPEFRUIT not Grape...OofO

Hi Robbie,

GSE does work on some yeast. Check out " Yeast and SCD " and " Carrot

juice and Garlic remedy " at

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/files/

Sheila

> I'm so glad to see this post - I asked if GSE works on yeast and

nobody answered. Still an issue right now after the fruit

overload and i'm beside myself.

>

> Robbie

>

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, Sheila. I'm trying to keep fruit and honey to minimum for sure. Today

was more solid, though he did go 3x this am - I hope that was a fluke. We just

had company this past weekend and there was a lot of food out. I think he went

nuts on the grapes, which may be why he's not been improving - he starts to get

better then overloads on fruit again, but at least now I can strictly monitor

what he eats.

It's sad because fruit never really bothered him before, but obviously there is

a limit and he went past it.

This is what I'm trying to do for menu for him..

breakfast - cheese omelet with a little cheese on the side

lunch - the Applegate farms hotdogs, ripe banana, cheese

dinner - meat of some sort with cooked veggies

he drinks watered down grape juice during the day - and water at night

Does this sound ok? We did yogurt for a few days, but that didn't seem to

settle well. They absolutely love that yogurt and it's hard to give just a

couple of bites... they'd eat it all in one sitting if I let them. They

probably get 1/2-1 cup each per day. But both of them seem to have a hard time

with it, though after we finish a batch, things improve quickly, like it did

it's job. That prolly sounds strange.

Robbie

Re: GRAPEFRUIT not Grape...OofO

Hi Robbie,

Both can be used for yeast, rotating every few days so that yeast

can't adapt. I am not sure about the OoO but GSE is pretty strong

tasting.

To use garlic you may be able to crush garlic allow it to sit in

water for a few minutes and then drain the crushed garlic and drink

the water - it may not be as effective as the carrot juice & garlic

but garlic is a pretty strong antimicrobial on its own.

Some form of probiotic is very important also. Make sure that the

antifungal/antimicrobials (OoO, GSE) and the probiotics are spaced

at least two hours apart.

Have you reduced fruit and honey as per Elaine's recommendations?

Sheila

> Thank you... his stools are mushy again and light colored. Being

6 months in to the diet, I don't know if the yeast he's dealing with

is easy or hard to kill off - would oil of oregano or GSE be

better? I know I won't be able to get him to drink carrot juice and

garlic - we don't have a juicer either.

>

> Robbie

> >

>

> Hi Robbie,

>

> GSE does work on some yeast. Check out " Yeast and SCD "

and " Carrot

> juice and Garlic remedy " at

> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/pecanbread/files/

>

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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[Guest guest]

Is there a reason why Elaine doesn't like the applegate hotdogs? I mean

something regarding the ingredients or the processing practices, or is it that

she isn't familiar enough with them to recommend them?

I limit the hot dogs, but I use them for his school lunches - we rarely have

leftovers. When we are home, I cook for him... I am certainly willing to pull

them if they could be a problem, but it's the only easy thing we can get and he

absolutely loves them.

Robbie

Re: GRAPEFRUIT not Grape...OofO

Hi Robbie,

> Thanks, Sheila. I'm trying to keep fruit and honey to minimum for

sure. Today was more solid, though he did go 3x this am - I hope

that was a fluke. We just had company this past weekend and there

was a lot of food out. I think he went nuts on the grapes, which

may be why he's not been improving

The grapes can be pretty hard on a compromised gut. There's an

awful lot of pectin (in the skin) and if he isn't able to digest it

all it will end up as food the " bad bugs " . When wanted

grapes early on in the diet I would peel them for him. It took me

so long to peel one grape that he usually changed his mind after two

or three and would ask for something a little easier on the finger

tips

- he starts to get better then overloads on fruit again, but at

least now I can strictly monitor what he eats.

>

> It's sad because fruit never really bothered him before, but

obviously there is a limit and he went past it.

If the fruit is cooked ot probably wouldn't be as bad but with all

the symptoms you've described recently (light colored stool, itchy

bottom etc.) it sounds like yeast is a predominant problem. So, you

absolutely want to avoid raw fruit *especially apple skins and grape

skins* and dried fruit. Even with cooked fruit you may want to keep

it reduced until you get the yeast under control.

> This is what I'm trying to do for menu for him..

>

> breakfast - cheese omelet with a little cheese on the side

> lunch - the Applegate farms hotdogs, ripe banana, cheese

> dinner - meat of some sort with cooked veggies

> he drinks watered down grape juice during the day - and water at

night

That looks okay, although Elaine doesn't like the applegate hot dogs.

> Does this sound ok? We did yogurt for a few days, but that didn't

seem to settle well.

If something has happened that upsets my system I sometimes have to

stop the yogurt for a day or so. After that it is usually okay. I

think with the UC it gets overwhelmed but I don't really know.

Sheila 47 mos SCD, 20 yrs UC

mom of SCD 32 mos

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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[Guest guest]

Is there a reason why Elaine doesn't like the applegate hotdogs? I mean

something regarding the ingredients or the processing practices, or is it that

she isn't familiar enough with them to recommend them?

I limit the hot dogs, but I use them for his school lunches - we rarely have

leftovers. When we are home, I cook for him... I am certainly willing to pull

them if they could be a problem, but it's the only easy thing we can get and he

absolutely loves them.

Robbie

Re: GRAPEFRUIT not Grape...OofO

Hi Robbie,

> Thanks, Sheila. I'm trying to keep fruit and honey to minimum for

sure. Today was more solid, though he did go 3x this am - I hope

that was a fluke. We just had company this past weekend and there

was a lot of food out. I think he went nuts on the grapes, which

may be why he's not been improving

The grapes can be pretty hard on a compromised gut. There's an

awful lot of pectin (in the skin) and if he isn't able to digest it

all it will end up as food the " bad bugs " . When wanted

grapes early on in the diet I would peel them for him. It took me

so long to peel one grape that he usually changed his mind after two

or three and would ask for something a little easier on the finger

tips

- he starts to get better then overloads on fruit again, but at

least now I can strictly monitor what he eats.

>

> It's sad because fruit never really bothered him before, but

obviously there is a limit and he went past it.

If the fruit is cooked ot probably wouldn't be as bad but with all

the symptoms you've described recently (light colored stool, itchy

bottom etc.) it sounds like yeast is a predominant problem. So, you

absolutely want to avoid raw fruit *especially apple skins and grape

skins* and dried fruit. Even with cooked fruit you may want to keep

it reduced until you get the yeast under control.

> This is what I'm trying to do for menu for him..

>

> breakfast - cheese omelet with a little cheese on the side

> lunch - the Applegate farms hotdogs, ripe banana, cheese

> dinner - meat of some sort with cooked veggies

> he drinks watered down grape juice during the day - and water at

night

That looks okay, although Elaine doesn't like the applegate hot dogs.

> Does this sound ok? We did yogurt for a few days, but that didn't

seem to settle well.

If something has happened that upsets my system I sometimes have to

stop the yogurt for a day or so. After that it is usually okay. I

think with the UC it gets overwhelmed but I don't really know.

Sheila 47 mos SCD, 20 yrs UC

mom of SCD 32 mos

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

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