Re: Wheat-Free Challenge??

[Guest guest]

Oats (cereal or cookies), barley can be added to soups (or cooked for

breakfast), there are all rye pizza crusts.

Of course, all will have CC issues (up to 5% wheat/non-grain material is

generally allowed).

I guess I'd wonder exactly what the doc is trying to find out with the

challenge. If he is allergic to wheat, all of these will remain off limits

(unless he outgrows the allergy - something that never happens with CD). If

he has CD, all of these will cause damage, just in varying amounts. Although

it is cumulative, starting with small amounts will no doubt just result in a

false sense of security (esp with barley and oats, which are less damaging).

> -----Original Message-----

> Our pediatric gi wants us to " challenge " our son & suggested doing so

> without the wheat. He said to go ahead & give him very small amounts

> of rye & barley.

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[Guest guest]

How about making some barley soup from

scratch? I don’t suppose you want to give him beer… Hmmm, what

things are barley sweetened?

Actually, if you cook barley, you can then

throw it into lots of things—it could be a hot cereal, or added to pasta

sauce or blended up and hidden in cheese sauce… Use the water you cook it

in to add to everything else.

Laurie

lbilyeu@...

From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of desertjae3

Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006

3:18 PM

To: SillyYaks

Subject: Wheat-Free

Challenge??

Hi all,

Our pediatric gi wants us to " challenge "

our son & suggested doing so

without the wheat. He said to go ahead &

give him very small amounts

of rye & barley. We have searched high

& low & the only thing we have

found with-out wheat is the s Beef &

Veggie soup with barley.

Does anyone have any suggestions besides getting

the grains to make my

own creations, which I guarantee he will not want

to try much less eat

some everyday. Thanks!

[Guest guest]

That's funny! Yeah, beer is pretty much out, at least for the next

11 years.

I really appreciate the ideas! REALLY! I'll see what i can cook-

up.

>

> How about making some barley soup from scratch? I don't suppose

you want to

> give him beer. Hmmm, what things are barley sweetened?

>

>

>

> Actually, if you cook barley, you can then throw it into lots of

things-it

> could be a hot cereal, or added to pasta sauce or blended up and

hidden in

> cheese sauce. Use the water you cook it in to add to everything

else.

>

>

>

> Laurie

>

> lbilyeu@...

>

> _____

>

> From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ]

On Behalf

> Of desertjae3

> Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 3:18 PM

> To: SillyYaks

> Subject: Wheat-Free Challenge??

>

>

>

> Hi all,

> Our pediatric gi wants us to " challenge " our son & suggested doing

so

> without the wheat. He said to go ahead & give him very small

amounts

> of rye & barley. We have searched high & low & the only thing we

have

> found with-out wheat is the s Beef & Veggie soup with

barley.

> Does anyone have any suggestions besides getting the grains to

make my

> own creations, which I guarantee he will not want to try much less

eat

> some everyday. Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I believe it is some of Newman's Own brand of cookies that are wheat free, but

not gluten free because they contain barley flour. Some of them are quite good

if my taste buds remember correctly. Haven't had any in over two years.

Wheat-Free Challenge??

> Hi all,

> Our pediatric gi wants us to " challenge " our son & suggested doing so

> without the wheat. He said to go ahead & give him very small amounts

> of rye & barley. We have searched high & low & the only thing we have

> found with-out wheat is the s Beef & Veggie soup with barley.

> Does anyone have any suggestions besides getting the grains to make my

> own creations, which I guarantee he will not want to try much less eat

> some everyday. Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Isn't the malt powder that makes ice cream shakes into " malts " made from barley?

I could

be totally off on this. But if it is so, it might not be hard to get him to eat

shakes ;-)

[Guest guest]

I find there are lots of candies, cookies, cereals, and the like,

that are wheat-free but otherwise glutaminated by barley & malt.

If I were shopping for such, I'd develop my " Wheat Free " radar. (As

a celiac (shopping for GLUTEN FREE), the words WHEAT FREE that end up

meaning glutaminated by rye or barley make me so frustrated.) For

you, the words WHEAT FREE (but still containing gluten) should start

to jump out at you from the shelves. Think Cheerios, Rice Krispies,

even those Hershey Krackel bars. Good luck! Hope the little one

feels OK with non-wheat gluten. Esther in RI

>

> Hi all,

> Our pediatric gi wants us to " challenge " our son & suggested doing so

> without the wheat. He said to go ahead & give him very small amounts

> of rye & barley.

[Guest guest]

> Hi all,

> Our pediatric gi wants us to " challenge " our son & suggested doing so

> without the wheat. He said to go ahead & give him very small amounts

> of rye & barley. We have searched high & low & the only thing we have

> found with-out wheat is the s Beef & Veggie soup with barley.

> Does anyone have any suggestions besides getting the grains to make my

> own creations, which I guarantee he will not want to try much less eat

> some everyday. Thanks!

>

Is your son allergic to wheat? If so, rye and barley are heavily

cross contaminated, unless you use whole grains and sort sort sort.

That's why I can't undergo traditional testing--I am allergic to

wheat (anaphylactic) and have reactions to rye and barley (cross

contamination). When I cut those out, however, a lot more symptoms

than my allergy symptoms went away.

There are dishes made with ryeberries which I used to like--basically

anything you can make with wheatberries, you can make with rye.

Barley is great in soup or as a side for just about any dish where

you'd use rice.

ygg

[Guest guest]

Thank you! You are all so generous & I never thought about all this

good junk food he can have! We are now eating so very healthy that

it would be great to find some goodies to use in the challenge. If

it makes him sick, at least maybe he can enjoy it going in. Sounds

a little ironic, but we'll see. ~j~

> >

> > Hi all,

> > Our pediatric gi wants us to " challenge " our son & suggested

doing so

> > without the wheat. He said to go ahead & give him very small

amounts

> > of rye & barley.

>

[Guest guest]

No wheat allergy was detected in his blood panel, but we are sure of

a sensitivity to it, whether or not he is celiac. Almost all of his

symptoms have subsided since starting gf diet 7 weeks ago. And he

has gained 2 lbs! yeah! Thanks for the ideas! ~j~

>

> > Hi all,

> > Our pediatric gi wants us to " challenge " our son & suggested

doing so

> > without the wheat. He said to go ahead & give him very small

amounts

> > of rye & barley. We have searched high & low & the only thing

we have

> > found with-out wheat is the s Beef & Veggie soup with

barley.

> > Does anyone have any suggestions besides getting the grains to

make my

> > own creations, which I guarantee he will not want to try much

less eat

> > some everyday. Thanks!

> >

>

> Is your son allergic to wheat? If so, rye and barley are heavily

> cross contaminated, unless you use whole grains and sort sort

sort.

> That's why I can't undergo traditional testing--I am allergic to

> wheat (anaphylactic) and have reactions to rye and barley (cross

> contamination). When I cut those out, however, a lot more

symptoms

> than my allergy symptoms went away.

>

> There are dishes made with ryeberries which I used to like--

basically

> anything you can make with wheatberries, you can make with rye.

> Barley is great in soup or as a side for just about any dish

where

> you'd use rice.

>

> ygg

>

[Guest guest]

OMG! I remember going to the icecream shop as a kid and having a malted. YUM! Used to get Rocky Road icecream in a dish with malt heavily sprinkled on top...

I actually found a bottle of malted in my cabinets when I was de-glutenizing. Maybe you could find that, I think it is with the other icecream toppers.

OK, I am almost done salivating...wow, I forgot about those...mostly I miss my local pizzaria and rye toast for breakfast.

Message: 15 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:04:20 -0000 Subject: Re: Wheat-Free Challenge??Isn't the malt powder that makes ice cream shakes into "malts" made from barley? I could be totally off on this. But if it is so, it might not be hard to get him to eat shakes ;-)

[Guest guest]

Well, shortly after my posting we did STOP the challenge because he

was becoming ill again. (Adominal cramping & nausea) Then come to

find out he had a virus on top of it. So, we are going to wait til

summer to possibly start the challenge again. The ped. gi doctor

said he is not convienced that my son has CD from the lab results

the pediatrician used to diagnose him with CD, so he wanted to put

him on the challenge to run more thourough blood tests and an endo.

We are convienced that even if it is not CD it is a sensitivity of

some kind because he has made GREAT progress being GF since mid

January. Family Dr. diagnosed my husband with CD also, although he

has almost no symptoms at all - I have symptoms, but tests came back

negative. It's all so very confusing & we are just doing what makes

us feel better no matter which doctor says what. Thanks for your

suggestions - Thank you all! I learn something new all the time

from this group!

>

> Oats (cereal or cookies), barley can be added to soups (or cooked

for

> breakfast), there are all rye pizza crusts.

>

> Of course, all will have CC issues (up to 5% wheat/non-grain

material is

> generally allowed).

>

> I guess I'd wonder exactly what the doc is trying to find out with

the

> challenge. If he is allergic to wheat, all of these will remain

off limits

> (unless he outgrows the allergy - something that never happens

with CD). If

> he has CD, all of these will cause damage, just in varying

amounts. Although

> it is cumulative, starting with small amounts will no doubt just

result in a

> false sense of security (esp with barley and oats, which are less

damaging).

>

> > -----Original Message-----

> > Our pediatric gi wants us to " challenge " our son & suggested

doing so

> > without the wheat. He said to go ahead & give him very small

amounts

> > of rye & barley.

>

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