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Michele.

I am no expert on the matter, but this is what I understand from what I have

gleaned on this MB. Yes,

Dr. DeSmet has wonderful credentials and seems to have performed a lot more

hip resurfs then just about

anyone. Yes, lots of people here have gone to him with great success.

Many of his patients do seem to

walk and get rehabbed sooner. However, many folks need their insurance to

pay for this surgery (I know I

do) and therefore choose doctors here in the US who are in the FDA trials.

These Doctors are using caution

and advising the 6 week rule of little/no weight bearing because they are

trying hard not to hurt their numbers

for the best possible results in the FDA trials. It makes sense.

If anyone else has other thoughts, I'd love to hear them

Hope this helps.

Lois

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So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have

been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries

than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two

months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from

the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info.

Michele

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Michele.

I am no expert on the matter, but this is what I understand from what I have

gleaned on this MB. Yes,

Dr. DeSmet has wonderful credentials and seems to have performed a lot more

hip resurfs then just about

anyone. Yes, lots of people here have gone to him with great success.

Many of his patients do seem to

walk and get rehabbed sooner. However, many folks need their insurance to

pay for this surgery (I know I

do) and therefore choose doctors here in the US who are in the FDA trials.

These Doctors are using caution

and advising the 6 week rule of little/no weight bearing because they are

trying hard not to hurt their numbers

for the best possible results in the FDA trials. It makes sense.

If anyone else has other thoughts, I'd love to hear them

Hope this helps.

Lois

question

So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have

been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries

than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two

months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from

the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info.

Michele

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Michele.

I am no expert on the matter, but this is what I understand from what I have

gleaned on this MB. Yes,

Dr. DeSmet has wonderful credentials and seems to have performed a lot more

hip resurfs then just about

anyone. Yes, lots of people here have gone to him with great success.

Many of his patients do seem to

walk and get rehabbed sooner. However, many folks need their insurance to

pay for this surgery (I know I

do) and therefore choose doctors here in the US who are in the FDA trials.

These Doctors are using caution

and advising the 6 week rule of little/no weight bearing because they are

trying hard not to hurt their numbers

for the best possible results in the FDA trials. It makes sense.

If anyone else has other thoughts, I'd love to hear them

Hope this helps.

Lois

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So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those who have

been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more miraculous recoveries

than any of those operated on by any surgeons in the US. Meaning - that two

months post op, many folks from the European camp are hopping and those from

the US are still using a cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info.

Michele

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> So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those

who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more

miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons

in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the

European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a

cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info.

> Michele

_____

Hi ~

I think the big issue is not that the Belgium hippies heal faster~ us

resurfers in the U.S. have to be careful and follow guidelines only

more strict due to the fact that resurfacing here is still in

clinical trials. Gotta get good results for it to be FDA approved.

Let me tell you, it was not easy crutching along knowing I was truly

capable of walking on my own and I hate to say I was not always

religious about it! And everyone heals at different rates~ all

depending on many factors. Some people wake up from surgery with no

pain whatsoever... I still can't believe that but I have a few

friends here that claim that;) Me..... I thought I was going to die

for a day and 1/2~ 2 weeks later I'm in and out of my van driving

like a madwoman here and there... mobile like there's no

tomorrow....There were a few fellow hippies that went to Belgium

about 2 weeks prior to my surgery and I was so envious of all they

were allowed to do... I could've done the same physically but not if

I followed my docs protocol which is important. Now I'm looking

forward to a 3 day backpacking trek in the hills of Michigan this

coming weekend~ just a little over 6 months post-op and am ready and

able and as excited as heck! Its amazing to think that a little over

6 months ago I was sitting here wondering if I'd ever be able to even

walk to the mailbox again with no pain! WooHOO... Life is GRAND! Best

to you...

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> So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those

who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more

miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons

in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the

European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a

cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info.

> Michele

_____

Hi ~

I think the big issue is not that the Belgium hippies heal faster~ us

resurfers in the U.S. have to be careful and follow guidelines only

more strict due to the fact that resurfacing here is still in

clinical trials. Gotta get good results for it to be FDA approved.

Let me tell you, it was not easy crutching along knowing I was truly

capable of walking on my own and I hate to say I was not always

religious about it! And everyone heals at different rates~ all

depending on many factors. Some people wake up from surgery with no

pain whatsoever... I still can't believe that but I have a few

friends here that claim that;) Me..... I thought I was going to die

for a day and 1/2~ 2 weeks later I'm in and out of my van driving

like a madwoman here and there... mobile like there's no

tomorrow....There were a few fellow hippies that went to Belgium

about 2 weeks prior to my surgery and I was so envious of all they

were allowed to do... I could've done the same physically but not if

I followed my docs protocol which is important. Now I'm looking

forward to a 3 day backpacking trek in the hills of Michigan this

coming weekend~ just a little over 6 months post-op and am ready and

able and as excited as heck! Its amazing to think that a little over

6 months ago I was sitting here wondering if I'd ever be able to even

walk to the mailbox again with no pain! WooHOO... Life is GRAND! Best

to you...

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> So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those

who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more

miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons

in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the

European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a

cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info.

> Michele

_____

Hi ~

I think the big issue is not that the Belgium hippies heal faster~ us

resurfers in the U.S. have to be careful and follow guidelines only

more strict due to the fact that resurfacing here is still in

clinical trials. Gotta get good results for it to be FDA approved.

Let me tell you, it was not easy crutching along knowing I was truly

capable of walking on my own and I hate to say I was not always

religious about it! And everyone heals at different rates~ all

depending on many factors. Some people wake up from surgery with no

pain whatsoever... I still can't believe that but I have a few

friends here that claim that;) Me..... I thought I was going to die

for a day and 1/2~ 2 weeks later I'm in and out of my van driving

like a madwoman here and there... mobile like there's no

tomorrow....There were a few fellow hippies that went to Belgium

about 2 weeks prior to my surgery and I was so envious of all they

were allowed to do... I could've done the same physically but not if

I followed my docs protocol which is important. Now I'm looking

forward to a 3 day backpacking trek in the hills of Michigan this

coming weekend~ just a little over 6 months post-op and am ready and

able and as excited as heck! Its amazing to think that a little over

6 months ago I was sitting here wondering if I'd ever be able to even

walk to the mailbox again with no pain! WooHOO... Life is GRAND! Best

to you...

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Michele,

I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US

to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a

disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules

your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start

PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks

to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get

the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in

the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all

your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite

draining.

My two cents,

Barb

> So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those

who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more

miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons

in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the

European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a

cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info.

> Michele

>

>

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Michele,

I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US

to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a

disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules

your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start

PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks

to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get

the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in

the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all

your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite

draining.

My two cents,

Barb

> So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those

who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more

miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons

in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the

European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a

cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info.

> Michele

>

>

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Michele,

I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US

to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a

disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules

your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start

PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks

to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get

the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in

the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all

your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite

draining.

My two cents,

Barb

> So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those

who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more

miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons

in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the

European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a

cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info.

> Michele

>

>

>

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Thanks, Barb. Very interesting - and it makes sense. So it's six weeks of no

exercise? Please send more details about this! Does that mean not even water

exercises or stretching or? I limp through as much yoga and gym as I can which,

at least at the moment, is enough to stave off the inevitable. The six weeks of

no exercise just seems wrong somehow, like loosing more ground than necessary,

but of course it probably is better to be safe than sorry. That regaining

though must be tough as can be. Any details are appreciated.

Michele

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Michele,

I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US

to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a

disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules

your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start

PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks

to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get

the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in

the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all

your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite

draining.

My two cents,

Barb

> So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those

who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more

miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons

in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the

European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a

cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info.

> Michele

>

>

>

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Thanks, Barb. Very interesting - and it makes sense. So it's six weeks of no

exercise? Please send more details about this! Does that mean not even water

exercises or stretching or? I limp through as much yoga and gym as I can which,

at least at the moment, is enough to stave off the inevitable. The six weeks of

no exercise just seems wrong somehow, like loosing more ground than necessary,

but of course it probably is better to be safe than sorry. That regaining

though must be tough as can be. Any details are appreciated.

Michele

Re: question

Michele,

I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US

to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a

disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules

your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start

PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks

to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get

the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in

the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all

your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite

draining.

My two cents,

Barb

> So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those

who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more

miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons

in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the

European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a

cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info.

> Michele

>

>

>

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Thanks, Barb. Very interesting - and it makes sense. So it's six weeks of no

exercise? Please send more details about this! Does that mean not even water

exercises or stretching or? I limp through as much yoga and gym as I can which,

at least at the moment, is enough to stave off the inevitable. The six weeks of

no exercise just seems wrong somehow, like loosing more ground than necessary,

but of course it probably is better to be safe than sorry. That regaining

though must be tough as can be. Any details are appreciated.

Michele

Re: question

Michele,

I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US

to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a

disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules

your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start

PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks

to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get

the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in

the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all

your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite

draining.

My two cents,

Barb

> So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those

who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more

miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons

in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the

European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a

cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info.

> Michele

>

>

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> do) and therefore choose doctors here in the US who are in the FDA trials.

> These Doctors are using caution

> and advising the 6 week rule of little/no weight bearing because they are

> trying hard not to hurt their numbers

> for the best possible results in the FDA trials. It makes sense.

Not all the US doctors wait six weeks, mine wanted me 100% weight bearing as

soon as possible after surgery. They had me out of the bed and standing on my

operated leg the morning after surgery and I have been full weight bearing

ever since. There was no wait on therapy, the third day after surgery the

doctor wanted to see how high I could lift my leg.

Bruce

Left C2k

10/21/02

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> do) and therefore choose doctors here in the US who are in the FDA trials.

> These Doctors are using caution

> and advising the 6 week rule of little/no weight bearing because they are

> trying hard not to hurt their numbers

> for the best possible results in the FDA trials. It makes sense.

Not all the US doctors wait six weeks, mine wanted me 100% weight bearing as

soon as possible after surgery. They had me out of the bed and standing on my

operated leg the morning after surgery and I have been full weight bearing

ever since. There was no wait on therapy, the third day after surgery the

doctor wanted to see how high I could lift my leg.

Bruce

Left C2k

10/21/02

Dr. Helmy

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> do) and therefore choose doctors here in the US who are in the FDA trials.

> These Doctors are using caution

> and advising the 6 week rule of little/no weight bearing because they are

> trying hard not to hurt their numbers

> for the best possible results in the FDA trials. It makes sense.

Not all the US doctors wait six weeks, mine wanted me 100% weight bearing as

soon as possible after surgery. They had me out of the bed and standing on my

operated leg the morning after surgery and I have been full weight bearing

ever since. There was no wait on therapy, the third day after surgery the

doctor wanted to see how high I could lift my leg.

Bruce

Left C2k

10/21/02

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Michele,

My Doctor, Dr. Stachniw, told me most infatically, NO EXERCISE FOR

SIX WEEKS. I don't remember who you said your doctor is but they

definately do have different opinions. I was allowed to walk around

the house as needed,using the walker with touch down weight only, but

not encouraged to walk any great length. His opinion is that you

need these six weeks for the soft tissue to heal. I followed his

instructions to the letter, though I know most people deviate quite a

bit, they drive early, they put more than touch down weight on that

leg and even walk unaided. I'm not saying that's bad, look at the

Belgium hippies. I'm just saying that I chose this doctor and felt I

needed to do exactly what he told me if I was trusting him with my

surgery. Maybe your doctor will give you some exercise to do during

your six weeks.

Best luck,

Barb

> > So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if

those

> who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more

> miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any

surgeons

> in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from

the

> European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a

> cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info.

> > Michele

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Casey,

In my case I had a fused hip picked undone and then the BHR put on

it.......... That like others here, necessitated me following specific

instructions. I also had a bone graft to avoid cutting some very poor

muscles who had had little use for 35years.

Now, while I was specifically told not to weight bear I was into PT

immediately.........The Surgeon actually made it a precondition of

doing my operation that I spend a fortnight at a Rehab hospital doing

PT........... There is a stack of PT one can do without putting too

much pressure on the prothesis and in my case it was essential to

try getting the muscles alive.......... if only to help keep it from any

possible dislocation chance.

The bone needed healing because of the graft and the shock of

being picked apart and given a new purpose in life. However at

no time did I feel that there was any hazard created by not

weight bearing. The bone seemed to happily grow into the prothesis

without doing that.

Australia doesn't have the study/trial stuff happening. But we still

have people with different rates on getting onto full weight bearing

and getting on with life. One man I know was actually up on his

only a few hours after his operation and over 12 months on he has

had no hassles with it and still thinks it is the best thing he has

done for his health in a long time.

I suspect we put a lot of emphasis on the early time which later

becomes irrelevant. I pushed myself very heavily to get early

movement and now wonder why. Your experience will be your

personal learning curve and I suspect the best advice anyone

can give is don't get yourself too worried over things that will

just flow when it all happens.

Edith - LBHR Syd Aust. 8/02

> Immediate PT may be connected to ensuring that the uncemented cup bonds

> with bone. Bone that is not put under pressure recedes.

> I haven't studied American results as much as UK and Belgium but if there

> was a significant difference in success rates (probably not), could it be

> actually due to the cautious " no exercise for six weeks " , considering

> implications for muscle and bone? Avoid the fracture but discourage bone

> ingrowth...but then aren't most failures related to the femur neck

> fracturing?

> -----Messaggio originale-----

> Da: Lois G.

> Inviato: lunedì, 20. gennaio 2003 23:26

> A: surfacehippy

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Hi Casey,

In my case I had a fused hip picked undone and then the BHR put on

it.......... That like others here, necessitated me following specific

instructions. I also had a bone graft to avoid cutting some very poor

muscles who had had little use for 35years.

Now, while I was specifically told not to weight bear I was into PT

immediately.........The Surgeon actually made it a precondition of

doing my operation that I spend a fortnight at a Rehab hospital doing

PT........... There is a stack of PT one can do without putting too

much pressure on the prothesis and in my case it was essential to

try getting the muscles alive.......... if only to help keep it from any

possible dislocation chance.

The bone needed healing because of the graft and the shock of

being picked apart and given a new purpose in life. However at

no time did I feel that there was any hazard created by not

weight bearing. The bone seemed to happily grow into the prothesis

without doing that.

Australia doesn't have the study/trial stuff happening. But we still

have people with different rates on getting onto full weight bearing

and getting on with life. One man I know was actually up on his

only a few hours after his operation and over 12 months on he has

had no hassles with it and still thinks it is the best thing he has

done for his health in a long time.

I suspect we put a lot of emphasis on the early time which later

becomes irrelevant. I pushed myself very heavily to get early

movement and now wonder why. Your experience will be your

personal learning curve and I suspect the best advice anyone

can give is don't get yourself too worried over things that will

just flow when it all happens.

Edith - LBHR Syd Aust. 8/02

> Immediate PT may be connected to ensuring that the uncemented cup bonds

> with bone. Bone that is not put under pressure recedes.

> I haven't studied American results as much as UK and Belgium but if there

> was a significant difference in success rates (probably not), could it be

> actually due to the cautious " no exercise for six weeks " , considering

> implications for muscle and bone? Avoid the fracture but discourage bone

> ingrowth...but then aren't most failures related to the femur neck

> fracturing?

> -----Messaggio originale-----

> Da: Lois G.

> Inviato: lunedì, 20. gennaio 2003 23:26

> A: surfacehippy

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Hi Casey,

In my case I had a fused hip picked undone and then the BHR put on

it.......... That like others here, necessitated me following specific

instructions. I also had a bone graft to avoid cutting some very poor

muscles who had had little use for 35years.

Now, while I was specifically told not to weight bear I was into PT

immediately.........The Surgeon actually made it a precondition of

doing my operation that I spend a fortnight at a Rehab hospital doing

PT........... There is a stack of PT one can do without putting too

much pressure on the prothesis and in my case it was essential to

try getting the muscles alive.......... if only to help keep it from any

possible dislocation chance.

The bone needed healing because of the graft and the shock of

being picked apart and given a new purpose in life. However at

no time did I feel that there was any hazard created by not

weight bearing. The bone seemed to happily grow into the prothesis

without doing that.

Australia doesn't have the study/trial stuff happening. But we still

have people with different rates on getting onto full weight bearing

and getting on with life. One man I know was actually up on his

only a few hours after his operation and over 12 months on he has

had no hassles with it and still thinks it is the best thing he has

done for his health in a long time.

I suspect we put a lot of emphasis on the early time which later

becomes irrelevant. I pushed myself very heavily to get early

movement and now wonder why. Your experience will be your

personal learning curve and I suspect the best advice anyone

can give is don't get yourself too worried over things that will

just flow when it all happens.

Edith - LBHR Syd Aust. 8/02

> Immediate PT may be connected to ensuring that the uncemented cup bonds

> with bone. Bone that is not put under pressure recedes.

> I haven't studied American results as much as UK and Belgium but if there

> was a significant difference in success rates (probably not), could it be

> actually due to the cautious " no exercise for six weeks " , considering

> implications for muscle and bone? Avoid the fracture but discourage bone

> ingrowth...but then aren't most failures related to the femur neck

> fracturing?

> -----Messaggio originale-----

> Da: Lois G.

> Inviato: lunedì, 20. gennaio 2003 23:26

> A: surfacehippy

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At least one of the dislocations was someone who didnt want to forgo their

yoga for 6 weeks - that joint capsule and those muscles around it need TIME

to heal.

The muscles and tendons will do their job of keeping the new hip in place -

ONCE they've healed.

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Thanks, Barb. Very interesting - and it makes sense. So it's six weeks of

no exercise? Please send more details about this! Does that mean not even

water exercises or stretching or? I limp through as much yoga and gym as I

can which, at least at the moment, is enough to stave off the inevitable.

The six weeks of no exercise just seems wrong somehow, like loosing more

ground than necessary, but of course it probably is better to be safe than

sorry. That regaining though must be tough as can be. Any details are

appreciated.

Michele

Re: question

Michele,

I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US

to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a

disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules

your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start

PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks

to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get

the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in

the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all

your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite

draining.

My two cents,

Barb

> So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those

who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more

miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons

in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the

European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a

cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info.

> Michele

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At least one of the dislocations was someone who didnt want to forgo their

yoga for 6 weeks - that joint capsule and those muscles around it need TIME

to heal.

The muscles and tendons will do their job of keeping the new hip in place -

ONCE they've healed.

" michele " on 21/01/2003 03:45:44

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Thanks, Barb. Very interesting - and it makes sense. So it's six weeks of

no exercise? Please send more details about this! Does that mean not even

water exercises or stretching or? I limp through as much yoga and gym as I

can which, at least at the moment, is enough to stave off the inevitable.

The six weeks of no exercise just seems wrong somehow, like loosing more

ground than necessary, but of course it probably is better to be safe than

sorry. That regaining though must be tough as can be. Any details are

appreciated.

Michele

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Michele,

I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US

to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a

disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules

your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start

PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks

to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get

the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in

the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all

your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite

draining.

My two cents,

Barb

> So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those

who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more

miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons

in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the

European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a

cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info.

> Michele

>

>

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At least one of the dislocations was someone who didnt want to forgo their

yoga for 6 weeks - that joint capsule and those muscles around it need TIME

to heal.

The muscles and tendons will do their job of keeping the new hip in place -

ONCE they've healed.

" michele " on 21/01/2003 03:45:44

To: <surfacehippy >

cc:

bcc:

, 21 January 2003, 3:45 a.m.

Contact:

Contact:

Re: Re: question

Thanks, Barb. Very interesting - and it makes sense. So it's six weeks of

no exercise? Please send more details about this! Does that mean not even

water exercises or stretching or? I limp through as much yoga and gym as I

can which, at least at the moment, is enough to stave off the inevitable.

The six weeks of no exercise just seems wrong somehow, like loosing more

ground than necessary, but of course it probably is better to be safe than

sorry. That regaining though must be tough as can be. Any details are

appreciated.

Michele

Re: question

Michele,

I think there's another reason we have been taking longer in the US

to recover. The six weeks of no exercise puts you at quite a

disadvantage muscle-wise. If you are really following your rules

your muscles are wasting for the whole six weeks. When you do start

PT you're behind where you were to begin with. It takes a few weeks

to just get back to square one and then another month or so to get

the operated leg strong. Everyone is right though, it's nothing in

the long run. It is quite frustrating at the time as putting all

your weight on one leg for every activity of the day is quite

draining.

My two cents,

Barb

> So as I get closer to the inevitable, I think it seems as if those

who have been operated on by Dr. De Smet have had quicker, more

miraculous recoveries than any of those operated on by any surgeons

in the US. Meaning - that two months post op, many folks from the

European camp are hopping and those from the US are still using a

cane to hop. Am I wrong? Thanks for all the info.

> Michele

>

>

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Has anybody experienced increased headaches with CoQ10.

I've had problems with headaches (I don't think they are migraines) for awhile - but recently as I've tried to increase the CoQ10 per my Doctor's orders, I have been having horrible headaches - nothing seems to help. They've even sent a PT to PT - it does seem to help for a little while, but no lasting relief, and honestly, over the course of time that they have been occurring on a more regular basis (since about January), they have just gotten more painful - more frequent and less and less relief with about anything I do.

I started with 30mg twice a day - noticed improved GI motility - went up to 60 mg twice a day - was fine - but have had trouble since increasing it to 100. GI motility seems worse, sometimes it brings on more nausea and these headaches have gotten extreme. Before I started thinking that the headaches might be related to the higher doses of CoQ10, I had pretty well gotten used to 100 and was beginning to try 130mg twice a day. My doctor wants me up to 200mg twice a day.

Have never yet been able to tolerate 130 without vomiting (I've tried with food, without food etc), so I've been stuck at 100 for awhile - but as I've thought about the timing of these headaches, it seems to have gotten worse and worse the higher the dose of CoQ10.

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Anne, for some reason there are those in the mito world that coq is NOT good for. Same with carnitine. Most are helped by it, but there are some who cant tolerate it. You may be one of those who should stick to 30-60 mg. a day. With me, it is carnitine I cant use.

Has anybody experienced increased headaches with CoQ10.

I've had problems with headaches (I don't think they are migraines) for awhile - but recently as I've tried to increase the CoQ10 per my Doctor's orders, I have been having horrible headaches - nothing seems to help. They've even sent a PT to PT - it does seem to help for a little while, but no lasting relief, and honestly, over the course of time that they have been occurring on a more regular basis (since about January), they have just gotten more painful - more frequent and less and less relief with about anything I do.

I started with 30mg twice a day - noticed improved GI motility - went up to 60 mg twice a day - was fine - but have had trouble since increasing it to 100. GI motility seems worse, sometimes it brings on more nausea and these headaches have gotten extreme. Before I started thinking that the headaches might be related to the higher doses of CoQ10, I had pretty well gotten used to 100 and was beginning to try 130mg twice a day. My doctor wants me up to 200mg twice a day.

Have never yet been able to tolerate 130 without vomiting (I've tried with food, without food etc), so I've been stuck at 100 for awhile - but as I've thought about the timing of these headaches, it seems to have gotten worse and worse the higher the dose of CoQ10.

Anyway - any thoughts out there or other experiences with it?Thanks - Anne

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Anne,

I am another person who does not tolerate Co Q 10. So far, Barbara has been the only other person I met who does worse on it. My migraines did increase and I was getting sick (vomiting) every day while I was on it. My symptoms also seemed to get worse. This was on the low dose of it. It sounds like you might tolerate the low dose. I would talk to your doctor about this.

Smiles,

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Has anybody experienced increased headaches with CoQ10.

I've had problems with headaches (I don't think they are migraines) for awhile - but recently as I've tried to increase the CoQ10 per my Doctor's orders, I have been having horrible headaches - nothing seems to help. They've even sent a PT to PT - it does seem to help for a little while, but no lasting relief, and honestly, over the course of time that they have been occurring on a more regular basis (since about January), they have just gotten more painful - more frequent and less and less relief with about anything I do.

I started with 30mg

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