Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Then what is the sense of the files if it is not a SAFE place to get answers? Then in reality all foods should be listed there, doesn't make sense at all. Mimi richabec wrote: You should always read labels and if you have doubts you can call the manufacturer to check out questions. The files are a great place to look for ideas so you know where to start. If something is in the files I usually feel very comfortable just checking the labels. Some people have a reaction to the maltitol in chewing gum. It frequently causes gas and diarrhea in lots of folks – not just celiacs. Many don’t react at all. I don’t know if that is in the gum you tried. We chew Extra all the time. It has maltitol and it doesn’t bother us. I have 2 friends that won’t touch it – and it has nothing to do with gluten. Good Luck finding a gum that works for you. Becky From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Ian's Mimi Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:39 AM To: SillyYaks Subject: FYI on files yesterday I requested info on chewing gum. I was directed to the silly yak files for candy and gum...........there I found Bazooka listed as a safe gum............today I am having gas and diarrhea .........no more files for me. By the way i had one piece of bazooka gum :-( Mimi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 OOPS! I forgot to add i do not have problems with maltitol, but that is good for others to know! Mimi richabec wrote: You should always read labels and if you have doubts you can call the manufacturer to check out questions. The files are a great place to look for ideas so you know where to start. If something is in the files I usually feel very comfortable just checking the labels. Some people have a reaction to the maltitol in chewing gum. It frequently causes gas and diarrhea in lots of folks – not just celiacs. Many don’t react at all. I don’t know if that is in the gum you tried. We chew Extra all the time. It has maltitol and it doesn’t bother us. I have 2 friends that won’t touch it – and it has nothing to do with gluten. Good Luck finding a gum that works for you. Becky From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Ian's Mimi Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:39 AM To: SillyYaks Subject: FYI on files yesterday I requested info on chewing gum. I was directed to the silly yak files for candy and gum...........there I found Bazooka listed as a safe gum............today I am having gas and diarrhea .........no more files for me. By the way i had one piece of bazooka gum :-( Mimi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 Food companies have the right to change their ingredients at any time. You cannot assume that something will remain gf forever just because it is right now. You always have to check labels. The thing I find most helpful is to get familiar with the food companies that will accurately label food without hiding any gluten ingredients. Kraft, Con Agra, General Mills, are some that come to my mind. I try to buy from companies I know that I can trust. I really don’t depend on lists – but – I find them very helpful late at night or on weekends when the option to call a company is not available. The lists are a great resource to go to for options – it is overwhelming at first to face a whole grocery store full of labels. The lists give you a starting point. As you become more familiar with the diet it will become much easier. You may also identify other ingredients that you are sensitive to as well. Not all bloating is due to gluten – though sometimes it is hard to tell the difference if you do not a very strong reaction to gluten. The only chewing gum that I have identified that actually does contain gluten is Altoids gum. There may be others – but I generally trust the labels on gum since most come from the large food companies. Becky From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Ian's Mimi Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 6:51 PM To: SillyYaks Subject: Re: FYI on files Then what is the sense of the files if it is not a SAFE place to get answers? Then in reality all foods should be listed there, doesn't make sense at all. Mimi richabec wrote: You should always read labels and if you have doubts you can call the manufacturer to check out questions. The files are a great place to look for ideas so you know where to start. If something is in the files I usually feel very comfortable just checking the labels. Some people have a reaction to the maltitol in chewing gum. It frequently causes gas and diarrhea in lots of folks – not just celiacs. Many don’t react at all. I don’t know if that is in the gum you tried. We chew Extra all the time. It has maltitol and it doesn’t bother us. I have 2 friends that won’t touch it – and it has nothing to do with gluten. Good Luck finding a gum that works for you. Becky From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Ian's Mimi Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:39 AM To: SillyYaks Subject: FYI on files yesterday I requested info on chewing gum. I was directed to the silly yak files for candy and gum...........there I found Bazooka listed as a safe gum............today I am having gas and diarrhea .........no more files for me. By the way i had one piece of bazooka gum :-( Mimi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 All you say is true but my point is this a celiac list and you would think our files should have accurate info! Or they shouldn't be there at all...........I am a newly DX'd and I trusted this group and got ill because I did. Mimi richabec wrote: Food companies have the right to change their ingredients at any time. You cannot assume that something will remain gf forever just because it is right now. You always have to check labels. The thing I find most helpful is to get familiar with the food companies that will accurately label food without hiding any gluten ingredients. Kraft, Con Agra, General Mills, are some that come to my mind. I try to buy from companies I know that I can trust. I really don’t depend on lists – but – I find them very helpful late at night or on weekends when the option to call a company is not available. The lists are a great resource to go to for options – it is overwhelming at first to face a whole grocery store full of labels. The lists give you a starting point. As you become more familiar with the diet it will become much easier. You may also identify other ingredients that you are sensitive to as well. Not all bloating is due to gluten – though sometimes it is hard to tell the difference if you do not a very strong reaction to gluten. The only chewing gum that I have identified that actually does contain gluten is Altoids gum. There may be others – but I generally trust the labels on gum since most come from the large food companies. Becky From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Ian's Mimi Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 6:51 PM To: SillyYaks Subject: Re: FYI on files Then what is the sense of the files if it is not a SAFE place to get answers? Then in reality all foods should be listed there, doesn't make sense at all. Mimi richabec wrote: You should always read labels and if you have doubts you can call the manufacturer to check out questions. The files are a great place to look for ideas so you know where to start. If something is in the files I usually feel very comfortable just checking the labels. Some people have a reaction to the maltitol in chewing gum. It frequently causes gas and diarrhea in lots of folks – not just celiacs. Many don’t react at all. I don’t know if that is in the gum you tried. We chew Extra all the time. It has maltitol and it doesn’t bother us. I have 2 friends that won’t touch it – and it has nothing to do with gluten. Good Luck finding a gum that works for you. Becky From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Ian's Mimi Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:39 AM To: SillyYaks Subject: FYI on files yesterday I requested info on chewing gum. I was directed to the silly yak files for candy and gum...........there I found Bazooka listed as a safe gum............today I am having gas and diarrhea .........no more files for me. By the way i had one piece of bazooka gum :-( Mimi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2006 Report Share Posted February 10, 2006 > > All you say is true but my point is this a celiac list and you would > think our files should have accurate info! Or they shouldn't be there at > all...........I am a newly DX'd and I trusted this group and got ill > because I did. > Mimi > No, you got ill because you were too lazy to check on a product for yourself. The files all have dates on them - they are snapshot of the marketplace taken on a specific day. The volunteers who put hundreds of hours into creating those files have no way to control or predict changes by manufacturers, and if you rely on food lists, you're going to be one continuously sick celiac. And have you actually checked that the product really DOES contain gluten, or are you just assuming that it does because you got sick? And what makes you so absolutely sure it was it the gum? If you're newly dx'ed and new to the diet, you might want to look harder at the rest of what you are eating before assuming product X was the source of the problem. The files are a labor of love and friendship by a dedicated group of volunteers, if you don't like 'em, then just ignore 'em. I've used them extensively for 2+ years and never had a problem. Maureen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 In defense of the SillyYak files... you do have to look at the dates of the information... and it was accurate at that time.... However, even though an item is on a GF list yesterday, doesn't mean that it's safe today. We must all use the information at hand and make an informed and educated decision on any food that we give our bodies. Sorry to hear about your woes with the gum. Could it have been something else? Our daughter reacts violently to gluten and has not had any problems with that particular gum. Melonie > > yesterday I requested info on chewing gum. I was directed to the silly > yak files for candy and gum...........there I found Bazooka listed as a > safe gum............today I am having gas and diarrhea .........no more > files for me. By the way i had one piece of bazooka gum :-( > > Mimi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Your health is your responsibility and you must read labels for yourself. The " FILES " are simply a guideline for you to get started and you should ALWAYS read ingredients and call manufacturers... regardless of what any file or list says.... whether it is my list or someone else's. I know that I am grateful when anyone shares any sort of GF related information with me... and then I double check on my own. I suppose that everyone is not grateful for the seeds of info that are contained on this site and if so, you are welcome to do without it and seek the information 100% on your own. This site is intended to be a baseline, so to speak, where people can go and find some tidbits to use in order to life a glute-free lifestyle.... I guess 1 unhappy SillyYak out of almost 1,500 members isn't so bad... Melonie > > > > You should always read labels and if you have doubts you can call the > > manufacturer to check out questions. The files are a great place to > > look for ideas so you know where to start. If something is in the > > files I usually feel very comfortable just checking the labels. > > > > > > > > Some people have a reaction to the maltitol in chewing gum. It > > frequently causes gas and diarrhea in lots of folks - not just > > celiacs. Many don't react at all. I don't know if that is in the gum > > you tried. We chew Extra all the time. It has maltitol and it > > doesn't bother us. I have 2 friends that won't touch it - and it has > > nothing to do with gluten. > > > > > > > > Good Luck finding a gum that works for you. > > > > > > > > Becky > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------- > > > > From: SillyYaks <mailto:SillyYaks > > > [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Ian's Mimi > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:39 AM > > To: SillyYaks <mailto:SillyYaks > > > Subject: FYI on files > > > > > > > > yesterday I requested info on chewing gum. I was directed to the silly > > yak files for candy and gum...........there I found Bazooka listed as a > > safe gum............today I am having gas and diarrhea .........no more > > files for me. By the way i had one piece of bazooka gum :-( > > > > Mimi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Maureen, Wow... thanks for your nice words.... It is not nice to get flamed when so much extra time is put into this site (not only by me), but MANY others. I appreciate all the contributions that our great yaks do to make this site so great. And the reason it is great is b/c of the MEMBERS..... You all keep this " machine " running nicely... I just provide some oil when it gets squeaky. Melonie > > > > All you say is true but my point is this a celiac list and you would > > think our files should have accurate info! Or they shouldn't be > there at > > all...........I am a newly DX'd and I trusted this group and got ill > > because I did. > > Mimi > > > > No, you got ill because you were too lazy to check on a product for > yourself. > > The files all have dates on them - they are snapshot of the > marketplace taken on a specific day. The volunteers who put hundreds > of hours into creating those files have no way to control or predict > changes by manufacturers, and if you rely on food lists, you're going > to be one continuously sick celiac. > > And have you actually checked that the product really DOES contain > gluten, or are you just assuming that it does because you got sick? > And what makes you so absolutely sure it was it the gum? If you're > newly dx'ed and new to the diet, you might want to look harder at the > rest of what you are eating before assuming product X was the source > of the problem. > > The files are a labor of love and friendship by a dedicated group of > volunteers, if you don't like 'em, then just ignore 'em. I've used > them extensively for 2+ years and never had a problem. > > > Maureen > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 It's also important to note that it's not one person doing the checking constanly here...it's a group effort and always check the dates of when something was checked. Ingredients can change in a flash, and just bc something was GF yesterday doesn't mean it is now. It's very important to always read labels. Also, just bc you got sick doesn't mean it was the gum. I don't think that was the only thing you ate all day...maybe something you ate was not GF, or was cross-contaminated. Or maybe it was something else in the gum you reacted to...I find it's very easy to quckly blame gluten when we feel like crap, but it's not always gluten! From: SillyYaks [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of onesillyyakSent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:47 PMTo: SillyYaks Subject: Re: FYI on files Your health is your responsibility and you must read labels for yourself.The "FILES" are simply a guideline for you to get started and you should ALWAYS read ingredients and call manufacturers... regardless of what any file or list says.... whether it is my list or someone else's.I know that I am grateful when anyone shares any sort of GF related information with me... and then I double check on my own.I suppose that everyone is not grateful for the seeds of info that are contained on this site and if so, you are welcome to do without it and seek the information 100% on your own.This site is intended to be a baseline, so to speak, where people can go and find some tidbits to use in order to life a glute-free lifestyle....I guess 1 unhappy SillyYak out of almost 1,500 members isn't so bad...Melonie> >> > You should always read labels and if you have doubts you can call the > > manufacturer to check out questions. The files are a great place to > > look for ideas so you know where to start. If something is in the > > files I usually feel very comfortable just checking the labels.> >> > > >> > Some people have a reaction to the maltitol in chewing gum. It > > frequently causes gas and diarrhea in lots of folks - not just > > celiacs. Many don't react at all. I don't know if that is in the gum > > you tried. We chew Extra all the time. It has maltitol and it > > doesn't bother us. I have 2 friends that won't touch it - and it has > > nothing to do with gluten.> >> > > >> > Good Luck finding a gum that works for you.> >> > > >> > Becky> >> > > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> >> > From: SillyYaks <mailto:SillyYaks > > > [mailto:SillyYaks ] On Behalf Of Ian's Mimi> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:39 AM> > To: SillyYaks <mailto:SillyYaks >> > Subject: FYI on files> >> > > >> > yesterday I requested info on chewing gum. I was directed to the silly> > yak files for candy and gum...........there I found Bazooka listed as a> > safe gum............today I am having gas and diarrhea .........no more> > files for me. By the way i had one piece of bazooka gum :-(> >> > Mimi> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2006 Report Share Posted February 15, 2006 Sue, Thanks! Melonie (who still doesn't know what her " full time " job is...) > > > > All you say is true but my point is this a celiac list and you > would > > think our files should have accurate info! Or they shouldn't be > there at > > all...........I am a newly DX'd and I trusted this group and got > ill > > because I did. > > Mimi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Dear Melnie, Almost 2 years after my dx I know that I would still be having a much harder time dealing with this goofy condition if it weren't for this group you created. I very much appreciate all the time and effort you devote to running the site.( IT'S GREAT!) So I just want to say a big THANK YOU for starting and maintaining this group and a big hug to you and all of my fellow members for helping each other, we're all in this together. MicheleMessage: 8 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:51:26 -0000 Subject: Re: FYI on filesSue,Thanks!Melonie (who still doesn't know what her "full time" job is...) >> Mimi - In addition to the suggestion for you to look in the files, > someone posted a recent email from Wrigley's on all their gum (dated > 12-20-05). It is generally better to rely on recent manufacturer > supplied information than on ANY list. > > Melonie and others put in a tremendous amount of time on the lists, > and, short of making phone calls as a full time job, no one could do > a better job keeping them current.> > Sue in Denver> Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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